Neither look like they have enough grey matter between the ears to be a PAP IB (not that it requires much grey matter to begin with - all you have to do is carry balls).
John Tan I suspect has screwed up big time in how he handled the Alice Fong saga and is awaiting instructions from his masters. I hope he gets sacked for this screw up, then he will have to go beg on the streets or go Changi Village to blow jw5 cock