Ah Teo Says Singapore Police is Prepared for Terrorist. You feel safe now?

[Sinkie]

How come army boys? Why army and why boys?

KNN......rifle only got 6 bullets, and where are the stun grenades?

 

[Papsmearer]

Why not prepared?

How to feel secure when you have a dwarf and a midget patrolling? The MP5 looks almost as tall as the midget carrying it. U can tell its all wayang. The 2 camo morons wear sunglasses indoor at the airport? Trying to yaya say so lah.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Prepared for terrorist attacks - before or after?

 

[Papsmearer]

1. Not wearing FLAK JACKET, therefore very vulnerable to gunfire in a firefight when terrorists shoot first from behind good cover.

2. Marksmanship skills of NS men highly questionable means high collateral damage in a firefight with innocent casualties to be expected.

3. Steel jacketed ammo not hollow points used by SAF means bullet richocheting against hard surfaces resulting in wrong targets getting hit.

I am assuming you have never done NS. To my knowledge, all SAF ammo is copper jacketed, not steel jacketed. The use of SAR-21 in a building like the Changi airport is not the fear of richocet. Because the SAR-21 uses the 5.56mm NATO, its a more powerful cartridge then the HK MP5 9mm. If one of these idiots fired a round from a SAR-21 at close range, it will penetrate the person's body and hit the nearest wall behind him and penetrate that wall too, potentially killing or injuring anyone in that room. That is why when you look at other country's security patrolling airports, they never use a 5.56mm weapon. Except if you are in Russia where life is cheap and AK-47s are acceptable patrol weapons.

 

[winnipegjets]

Prepared for terrorist attacks - before or after?

Don't worry, our PM was the one who spearheaded the rescue of people trapped in cable cars. With that experience, he can handle all kinds of terrorist threats.

 

[Charlie99]

I am assuming you have never done NS. To my knowledge, all SAF ammo is copper jacketed, not steel jacketed. The use of SAR-21 in a building like the Changi airport is not the fear of richocet. Because the SAR-21 uses the 5.56mm NATO, its a more powerful cartridge then the HK MP5 9mm. If one of these idiots fired a round from a SAR-21 at close range, it will penetrate the person's body and hit the nearest wall behind him and penetrate that wall too, potentially killing or injuring anyone in that room. That is why when you look at other country's security patrolling airports, they never use a 5.56mm weapon. Except if you are in Russia where life is cheap and AK-47s are acceptable patrol weapons.

If not for the 5.56 mm ammunition, then what other calibre?

 

[Leongsam]

I feel very safe in Singapore. I also know that my CPF is safe too and when I look at my statement, I feel so rich.

 

[mojito]

If not for the 5.56 mm ammunition, then what other calibre?

9mm guns and ammo very common in gun touting states. Best is .5 cal, clean and efficient. Maybe not so clean as it is hard to clean up the mess after a shooting.

 

[Papsmearer]

If not for the 5.56 mm ammunition, then what other calibre?

Normally 9mm hollow point is the standard. Most HRT and SWAT use 9mm weapons. U don't want collateral damage if the round penetrates the target and hits people behind him.

 

[Leongsam]

Normally 9mm hollow point is the standard. Most HRT and SWAT use 9mm weapons. U don't want collateral damage if the round penetrates the target and hits people behind him.

If there is any collateral damage, the person(s) involved would, in all probability, be arriving FTs because they're the ones flooding the country.

Collateral damage would therefore be a desirable outcome as it would reduce "rat" infestation in the country.

 

[Froggy]

Don't worry, our PM was the one who spearheaded the rescue of people trapped in cable cars. With that experience, he can handle all kinds of terrorist threats.

Yes indeed!


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[Leongsam]

Yes indeed!


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A very macho looking soldier boy. Reminds me of Vic Morrow in the series "Combat". Singapore is in good hands.

 

[Papsmearer]

A very macho looking soldier boy. Reminds me of Vic Morrow in the series "Combat". Singapore is in good hands.

Vic Morrow was chopped up by a helo blade, sinkies would be so lucky if the same thing happened to gay loong.

 

[Charlie99]

Normally 9mm hollow point is the standard. Most HRT and SWAT use 9mm weapons. U don't want collateral damage if the round penetrates the target and hits people behind him.

Pardon my ignorance, but 9mm is bigger and powerful than 5.56mm, which should do more collateral damage?

What is the difference between the damage on a human body hit by a 5.56 and a 9mm?

Thank you.

 

[Papsmearer]

Pardon my ignorance, but 9mm is bigger and powerful than 5.56mm, which should do more collateral damage?

What is the difference between the damage on a human body hit by a 5.56 and a 9mm?

Thank you.

Its not really the same. You are comparing a rifle round with a handgun round. The muzzle velocity on a 5.56mm round is almost 4 times that of a 9mm round. Therefore, even though the 9mm calibre is heavier then the 5.56mm, the 5.56mm is a much more powerful round due to the larger cartridge (more propellant powder) and hence at close range, it will just go clean through a body. At longer ranges, the 5.56mm will tumble during flight and will end up tumbling around the human body and causing a lot of damage to it. In many ways, getting shot at close range with a 5.56mm is less damaging then at say 200m. But the problem is that the round is so powerful, it will penetrate the body and hit whoever is behind. For the 9mm, if its hollow point, it will just mushroom up when it hits the body and breaks into fragments. If its not, it might still remain in the body.

 

[Charlie99]

Its not really the same. You are comparing a rifle round with a handgun round. The muzzle velocity on a 5.56mm round is almost 4 times that of a 9mm round. Therefore, even though the 9mm calibre is heavier then the 5.56mm, the 5.56mm is a much more powerful round due to the larger cartridge (more propellant powder) and hence at close range, it will just go clean through a body. At longer ranges, the 5.56mm will tumble during flight and will end up tumbling around the human body and causing a lot of damage to it. In many ways, getting shot at close range with a 5.56mm is less damaging then at say 200m. But the problem is that the round is so powerful, it will penetrate the body and hit whoever is behind. For the 9mm, if its hollow point, it will just mushroom up when it hits the body and breaks into fragments. If its not, it might still remain in the body.

Thank you.
Now I read the diference, not just the calibre, but the weapon as well.

 

[JohnTan]

This idea is one of the key reasons why we don't have any hostage situation in our supermarkets, unlike Paris.

 

[virus]

I feel very safe in Singapore. I also know that my CPF is safe too and when I look at my statement, I feel so rich.

You should pcc more often then u know quality n quantity of yr sperm b4 saying u rich or leech

 

[jw5]

There is a better photo, used to be forummer chewcheng's avatar. I miss that photo terribly. :o

Yes indeed!


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[kukubird59]

Normally 9mm hollow point is the standard. Most HRT and SWAT use 9mm weapons. U don't want collateral damage if the round penetrates the target and hits people behind him.

hahaha...double confirmed an empty vessel...
as usual his knowledge of physics is only one dimensional.....
he thinks higher muzzle velocity equals more penetration......
he obviously don't know that penetration depends on how fast the bullet transfer its energy though each barrier/body along its path.....
so between a typical 9mm and 5.56mm bullet, it is the 9mm that penetrates further due to slower transfer of energy....
chopped and certified... a DUD....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiAQT96j2ZY