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Fret not, Trump seems to have a fierce dislike of muslims.
Not that strong because he protects the Saudis like they are his family. And Saudis produce the people that gave America 9/11.
Fret not, Trump seems to have a fierce dislike of muslims.
Let me qualify my earlier statement. He likes filthy rich muslims though.Not that strong because he protects the Saudis like they are his family. And Saudis produce the people that gave America 9/11.
Let me qualify my earlier statement. He likes filthy rich muslims though.
Seriously, if you think so easy for our so called air superiority to take off from our bases and easily fly all the way along the straits and strike off Mudland's fleet of warships and submarines, you must have been a fan of buying into our own SAF advertisements. Before our air crafts can even reach those fleets, they will be busy engaging stretches of SAMs and air defence systems. How capable our pilots are trained to handle those kind of life treatening stressful scenarios are yet to be seen.Using their "massive" fleet of 8 warships and 2 submarines? Our air superiority not able to make short work of them?
You made the point that they just need to cut off the import and export routes from the sea. So easy we let them do that meh? How are they going to cut off sea route, use sampans? Sinkie navy and airforce will not do anything meh, just sit around and suck thumb?Seriously, if you think so easy for our so called air superiority to take off from our bases and easily fly all the way along the straits and strike off Mudland's fleet of warships and submarines, you must have been a fan of buying into our own SAF advertisements. Before our air crafts can even reach those fleets, they will be busy engaging stretches of SAMs and air defence systems. How capable our pilots are trained to handle those kind of life treatening stressful scenarios are yet to be seen.
Google earth can see or not?For the kind of salaries our MiniStars are paid, we should have a spy network like the Israeli Mossad - identify all the.locations of the SAM launchers and their radar tracking facilities. First order of business after declaration of war is to make surprise aerial attacks and bomb all these facilities to oblivion.
That's because you don't even realized that you are living in an island with no natural resources and almost everything that you eat, use etc is thru import.You made the point that they just need to cut off the import and export routes from the sea. So easy we let them do that meh? How are they going to cut off sea route, use sampans? Sinkie navy and airforce will not do anything meh, just sit around and suck thumb?
I remember reading about this incident. Goes to show the risks when you mix low IQ with religious fanaticism.During Baling incident all the villigers went into trance attack with spears t..he Malaysian army donno wat to do..
Actually I don't follow your argument. Telling me I don't realised I am living in an island with no natural resources? Ha ha!!!! Maybe you didn't attend school, because when I was in school, we were taught that.That's because you don't even realized that you are living in an island with no natural resources and almost everything that you eat, use etc is thru import.
You also don't even realized throughout the years, the relationship between your bigger neighbour and this small island has turned sour and no longer like the good old Suharto days. Better still this small island now even has pissed off another much more bigger brother completely and now have to suck up to the new uncle Sam for protection.
If your Mudland neighbour really take a defensive action to cut off the import and export routes from the sea, guess who will still be on our side?
Whether taking an defensive or offensive stand in a war is never easy. Sinkie navy and airforce can do whatever you think they can but if you think they are so mighty as marketed and advertised that can mobilized within 3 hours and size them up based only on those figure you've seen, you don't even know who is the one who really suck thumb at the end of the day.
For the kind of salaries our MiniStars are paid, we should have a spy network like the Israeli Mossad - identify all the.locations of the SAM launchers and their radar tracking facilities. First order of business after declaration of war is to make surprise aerial attacks and bomb all these facilities to oblivion.
Actually I don't follow your argument. Telling me I don't realised I am living in an island with no natural resources? Ha ha!!!! Maybe you didn't attend school, because when I was in school, we were taught that.
LKY always knew that our neighbours were unfriendly, he also knew we needed a close US friendship. Hence, the citizens all know that too. Grow up! You are such a daft one.
Nevermind, let's leave all that aside, Einstein. Don't complicate our nice little discussion. Now, tell me how are they going to cut off the sea routes? And how are they going to be allowed to be successful? And be able to sustain this closure?
SAM missiles? Malaysia does not need those. You come into their jungle. They fight you there.americans and armies worldwide train with malaysian soldiers in jungle warfare.
Yes yes. Then a great big wall can be built along the Johor border to keep the m&ds out. Trump will help us design it. We get Keppel Land and Sim Lian Construction to build it.I share your optimism ...under the leadership of Gen Kee Chiu, sinkapore will take over Johor and decimate the Mudland regime. Now, taking over is one thing. Keeping it is another. Will Gen Kee Chiu have the courage to commit genocide to rid of all the Malays? Only without the Malays, will it be possible to hang on to the land.
Yes yes. Then a great big wall can be built along the Johor border to keep the m&ds out. Trump will help us design it. We get Keppel Land and Sim Lian Construction to build it.
Nope, need the wall. Because, with due respect to our m&d friends, they multiply like hamsters. Have you played whack-a-mole? Whack one, two or three will pop up elsewhere. As for your Gen Kee Chiu, I don't know what to say except May the gods help us.Yes, build that wall ...with the expertise of our scientists from A*STAR and DSTA, our wall will be better than those built by Trump.
Actually, the wall won't be needed if Gen Kee Chiu exterminates all the Malays. The mudland Chinkchong will be no trouble. The mudland Ah Nehs can be easily placated with toady. It is the Malays that are possible trouble makers. Killing them all is the only way to make the occupation viable and easier to annex to be the larger sinkapore.
Salute to Gen Kee Chiu.
Yes I agree with you, it's all moot. In this forum, we're basically just taking the piss out of one another, poke and prick. The most that will happen is each country gives the other a middle finger, bitch and then ok again. And repeat. Dr M is being nasty as always and the pap buay song as usual. But cool heads will eventually prevail.My 2 cents worth, maybe 1 cent, from my limited knowledge. I don't think the 2 countries will ever go to war so its a moot point to even consider that.
For the sake of sharing through, from what i could remember. Mainly sharing the forces that are known. Those in the know will know whether what was
written below makes sense even though it has already been sanitized. (I will not use the AYBABTU theme here)
Singapore side
Pros
Good planning and war gaming already done. Most scenarios already thought of and covered.
Good command and control planning
Advanced Early warning systems
Advance air-bone, sea land based radar
AFVs may attack and come from multi ingress points by land and by sea (amphibious).
Heli borne troops and expeditionary type of vehicles can seize critical installations.
Large number of special forces deployed in-theatre within a very limited time.
Infantry can hold ground within a certain period up to a certain area within Johor.
Attack Helicopters may yet play a vital part for anti-armour and can hold their own against even coastal vessels. Especially after upgrade to Longbow
Our C-RAM capabilities are much more enhanced as compared to our neighbours and can retaliate not just against howitzer but even against rocket attacks.
Ready stockpiles of many critical items including food and ammunition
Entrenched infantry will hold ground at critical choke-points
Active defense systems and passive systems will be laid by surface vessels (and others or course) to defend the coast line
Underwater assets have been repeatedly upgraded can carry out unrestricted warfare against merchant vessels along the entire coastline and enforce a wide
zone even between East & West areas to prevent manpower/logistics resupply.
Coastal vessels are augmented by naval forces to protect the coastline.
Islands can be used for limited launches of forces.
Certain military forces may aid us in terms of armoured, infantry and militia assets.
All known critical installations neutralized within a very limited timeframe
Very mobile and capable AAA assets
Cons
Troop & Morale issue
Logistics and man power resupply caused by losses and attrition
French land assets are getting old and being replaced.
Water supplies can be contaminated but offset by advance filtration readiness as well as desalination plants near the sea
Blockaded easily by land and sea by immediate neighbours
High foreigner population leads to collaborators, civil unrest and may lead to instability within the initial stages.
High density - High civilian and collateral damage if the neighbour attacks first
Critical assets/dumps are distributed, underground but certain assets may not be hardened enough
Civilian population may need to be managed by foreign forces stationed within the island.
Certain forces cannot be used against other forces without serious repercussions.
Malaysia side
Pros
Long coast line, multiple resistance points, critical chokepoints if mainly attacked from the South direction.
Low civilian and collateral damage due to urban sprawl
Emplaced AAA
Generally loyal population within main territories
Good SA MLRS battery
Manpads and their proliferation in the AO in an event of a confrontation may be a deterrent to low flying aircraft and rotor wing craft especially over critical areas and coastlines.
Cons
New government
All critical distribution and supply points may be very badly disrupted.
Likely few will come to the aid if Malaysia is the aggressor.
Internal strife around its borders and other parts of the land may mean early loss of the Eastern portion due to ready forces.
Multi-prong envelopment of the country will be done with early loss of command and control.
The former Polish MBT tanks they have do have certain deficiencies, at least 9 of which will limit their operational usefulness. Limited range AAA assets to provide air cover for counter attack and cannot cross a lot of bridges given that they are over weight.
Their other armoured assets comprising of a mix bag of IFVs are very fragile
Low strength in terms of their SP indirect fire assets
Their air assets are weak, hard to achieve any semblance of air superiority. Limited air radar assets.
Migs have very very limited range, inefficient radars and older avionics limits the range of their missiles for Air to Air combat. Very limited air to ground attack capabilities on all air assets.
Par for their heliborne troops however they are limited in numbers and only trained for limited types of environment.
Under water assets are inadequate in numbers and capabilities for the vast areas that they must cover, diesel submarines have limited operational endurance, likely not upgraded with AIP, the torpedoes are mainly the older types and the location of their limited pens are known. Sonar is older type and operators are still green. Newest sonar upgrade standard is yet unknown
Very poor maintenance, limited upkeep with modifications and stop gap measures in place.
Very limited resupply, recovery and repair abilities