Chitchat Abby Choi's Background Full of Loop Holes

[ilovechinesegal]

In short, she kena shotgun at age 18 and married to a scumbag unluckly. She bought a luxury house and put her ex dad in law name to evade tax. Then she decided to sell at 72m hkd and triggered her ex dad in law to be very angry and decided to kill her. He is greedy and want to have 72m hkd. Money is evil. She should not have hired her ex husband brother to be her personal chaffuer that bring her to get chopped. That family is too selfish and disgusting.

 

[blackmondy]

 

[syed putra]

They could have given abby to me. Alive of course. I would handle the extermination.. but on my own sweettime,

 

[syed putra]

In short, she kena shotgun at age 18 and married to a scumbag unluckly. She bought a luxury house and put her ex dad in law name to evade tax. Then she decided to sell at 72m hkd and triggered her ex dad in law to be very angry and decided to kill her. He is greedy and want to have 72m hkd. Money is evil. She should not have hired her ex husband brother to be her personal chaffuer that bring her to get chopped. That family is too selfish and disgusting.

House under ex dad in law means she does not have the right to sell it. What a waste of nice chinese girl. There is already a shortage.

 

[Patriotmissile]

House under ex dad in law means she does not have the right to sell it. What a waste of nice chinese girl. There is already a shortage.

If you prove money trail from your pocket you can call the shots lah

 

[ilovechinesegal]

House under ex dad in law means she does not have the right to sell it. What a waste of nice chinese girl. There is already a shortage.

Guess u never read their news. She use lawyer and have proof that she paid the hou. Nvm still got hui and uyghur

 

[Pinkieslut]

In short, she kena shotgun at age 18 and married to a scumbag unluckly. She bought a luxury house and put her ex dad in law name to evade tax. Then she decided to sell at 72m hkd and triggered her ex dad in law to be very angry and decided to kill her. He is greedy and want to have 72m hkd. Money is evil. She should not have hired her ex husband brother to be her personal chaffuer that bring her to get chopped. That family is too selfish and disgusting.

That is what the "mainstream" media in HK/China wants you to believe.



Most people now think Abby Choi's mother is not real, a Mamasan.

And all the parties are involved in money laundering activities connected to the powerful in China.

 

[Willamshakespear]

If you prove money trail from your pocket you can call the shots lah

Not exactly, as there will be many factors for the presiding Judge to consider in order to make a decision. In a Democratic nation or even in a dictatorship where one seeks to preserve one's rule by the presumption of equal justice for all, the Judiciary DOES not make laws, but only INTERPRETE laws as legislated.

Over NON-POLITICAL or National security issues where grey areas exist in laws such as property, the judiciary will always uphold property RIGHTS - legal ownership- outright, and the law is that one whom has the title deeds registered under one' s name, is the LEGAL owner, to enjoy full rights to the property he owns within the scope of the law, unless where there is 'hold in trust' separate NECESSARY legal agreement on the property.

As far as this case is concerned, so called 'legal experts' whom claimed receipt proofs of money used from one's account is entitled to ownership, is akin to telling one CAN jump across a canal. Any fool can do so, but reaching the other side safely is another issue, as one whom is weak or the canal is beyond 2 metres, one would fall & get wet achieving nothing. Thus beware of 'legal advice', as there are professionals & charlatans as well.

In the case of the late Mdm Choi, it was reported that she had proof of such 'held in trust' claims based upon the cash - HK$ 70 MILLION paid upfront for the purchase of the contested property. However, there was NO such 'held in trust' document, only receipts.

1. She was not some uneducated old senile grandmother whom had been cheated over the property purchase, that a judge would take into consideration. She was young, educated, around the age of mid 20s, a socialite that travelled across continents, broke language barriers, had friends from all diverse international background. It would be impossible that she would not know what is ' held in trust' & the legal documents required.

2. Furthermore, she allowed her ex husband family to LIVE in the property for years for free with no tenancy agreement, that she claimed to had bought for herself. It was certainly not an investment for personal use, more so the lack of any presumed ' held in trust' document or evidence.

3. Equally, under such circumstances, her ex-husband family can claimed it was a GIFT, to uplift the lives of them. Can someone whom had given thousands of dollars to another over years, even with bank statement evidence, claimed back that such funds were given & supposed 'held in trust'? The Court would throw out such cases & deem such as frivolous & wasting Court's time.

Thus, there was no motive that her ex-husband family want her to disappear, as they have the fullest right to the property. & would win in any Court battle.

It is those whom stand to lose HK$70 Million dollars that would consider actions to be taken. WHERE did the HK$70 MILLION dollars came from? Mdm Choi was not a grade A International model & even such do not make that much funds on the catwalk or advertisements alone. It was only when she 'married' into the wealthy Tam family that she had access to UNLIMITED funds, to live life far more than a fairy tale princess.

Most Human would mourn over such huge fund losses, but most whom are civilized would get over it & moved on over time to rebuild. But for the unevolved where money is everything, more so the rich & powerful whom took great risks in life to achieve such unimaginable wealth, will not get over it, as they got rich by savings & not by throwing precious money away, and instead, how to get it back, by themselves or by the best brains or brawns from others, often thru elaborate plans, the way they work, plan & achieve their goals in life.

As the property was in another's name, & the other person has no wish to relinquish that legal right, the barbaric way is thru violence - to kill 2 birds with one stone in phases.

Phase 1:- Build up a beautiful story of everyone involved over time thru all forms of media, to lull them into a trap of deciding who are the kind ones & whom are the ungrateful, to sway public & even judge's opinions.

Phase 2:-Set up means to kill Mdm Choi, & then FRAME the Kwong family as the murderers, typical of ancient China form of punishment where the entire family-men, women & kids are slaughtered, to prevent vengeance & lesson for others to know & not mess with the bullies.

Phase 3:- with the legal owner of the property - the Kwong family all sentenced to death for murder, none will inherit the contested property. Then, the mother of Mdm Choi, will be supported by the best of lawyers to fight the right to the property thru ' held in trust' theory supported by receipts. As the Kwong family are either dead or held in prison, they would have no access to funds to fight a strong legal battle, more so when the judiciary are CONVINCED of the dastardly deeds & gruesome slaughter of a Human, pinned on them thru trump up charges.

Phase 4:- Once Mdm Choi's mother won the case, it will be far easier for her to sell the property as she alone decides - to sell & return the huge amount of millions to the rightful payer for the property, or to face death.

 

[blackmondy]

 

[Beria]

They could have given abby to me. Alive of course. I would handle the extermination.. but on my own sweettime,

Would you have made chink slut rendang after you chopped up her body?

 

[Willamshakespear]

It was reported that the China HK Police force had been able to identify the murdered victim through DNA. It is the only correct law enforcement procedure, to pacify citizens, to do so, BEFORE accusing, arresting, grabbing anyone off the streets & charging them for murder.

The next step would be to identify the murderer. As it happened within a time frame, the China HK Police force will have to establish WHOM were in the kill room apartment at the time of the murder.

a) WHO notified the police of the victim's absence?

b) As the police admitted its use GPS tech to identify where the victim was taken to, & who was the tenant of the kill room apartment, it will have to identify WHO was or were in the kill room at the time of the murder, which ranged from the time the victim was last seen to the police discovery of the victim's remains.

c) It was claimed by the China HK police force that security cameras were able to capture an unknown yet man bringing out big bags to dispose of into garbage bins as well as into a white SUV. The footage with a clearing picture should be immediately sent forth thru a All Points Bulletin , & now to every HK citizen & all entry/exit points, before it is too late, to identify that man, that would lead to this beast capture, as Humanity CANNOT allow such animals to exist, whom had not only kill but butchered Human Beings. Such must be eliminated or else he will be embolden to do more harm or embolden others to do the same.

d)Who else, besides the elderly Kwong, his alleged mistress & probably the landlord, has the keys to the kill room apartment?

e) It was reported that that the apartment had little furniture, certainly would not be a comfortable place for the elderly Kwong & his mistress for tryst, but filled with material that was meant for slaughter. It would need equipment, so WHERE were such equipment, that would not be a daily purchase by others, bought from, which can reveal the murderer?

f) The time where the murder or slaughter took place can be deduce by checks with the kill room apartment electricity suppliers. As it was empty of occupants, the supplier would have records of when electricity was turned on, till it was turned off.

g) Forensics would have to done to the entire apartment. It was mentioned that gloves were found in the apartment, but gloves would have to be put on first, & would leave sweat & minute skin tissues inside the gloves, as well as upon door frames to enter, toilets, electrical switches, etc, for further DNA traces of the murderer.

h) Although the area is reported as sparsely habited, any vehicle would still have to enter or exit main roads into the village. Shopkeepers, road sweepers, cleaners, pedestrians, etc would be the best source to look for & identify the vehicle & even occupants in the main roads into the village to the apartment & exits


It is NOT enough to CLAIM someone who is close to the victim, or owner/tenants of the kill room apartment as murderers & charge them for murder. It needs EVIDENCES to prove that he or they were participants of a slaughter. And EVIDENCES can be found through FORENSICS, proven by many solved cases Worldwide. Leave the MOTIVATION of the murder to the COURT, where each, in CIVILIZED nations, WILL have the right to free & fair trial, to solve the case.

 

[blackmondy]

It was reported that the China HK Police force had been able to identify the murdered victim through DNA. It is the only correct law enforcement procedure, to pacify citizens, to do so, BEFORE accusing, arresting, grabbing anyone off the streets & charging them for murder.

The next step would be to identify the murderer. As it happened within a time frame, the China HK Police force will have to establish WHOM were in the kill room apartment at the time of the murder.

a) WHO notified the police of the victim's absence?

b) As the police admitted its use GPS tech to identify where the victim was taken to, & who was the tenant of the kill room apartment, it will have to identify WHO was or were in the kill room at the time of the murder, which ranged from the time the victim was last seen to the police discovery of the victim's remains.

c) It was claimed by the China HK police force that security cameras were able to capture an unknown yet man bringing out big bags to dispose of into garbage bins as well as into a white SUV. The footage with a clearing picture should be immediately sent forth thru a All Points Bulletin , & now to every HK citizen & all entry/exit points, before it is too late, to identify that man, that would lead to this beast capture, as Humanity CANNOT allow such animals to exist, whom had not only kill but butchered Human Beings. Such must be eliminated or else he will be embolden to do more harm or embolden others to do the same.

d)Who else, besides the elderly Kwong, his alleged mistress & probably the landlord, has the keys to the kill room apartment?

e) It was reported that that the apartment had little furniture, certainly would not be a comfortable place for the elderly Kwong & his mistress for tryst, but filled with material that was meant for slaughter. It would need equipment, so WHERE were such equipment, that would not be a daily purchase by others, bought from, which can reveal the murderer?

f) The time where the murder or slaughter took place can be deduce by checks with the kill room apartment electricity suppliers. As it was empty of occupants, the supplier would have records of when electricity was turned on, till it was turned off.

g) Forensics would have to done to the entire apartment. It was mentioned that gloves were found in the apartment, but gloves would have to be put on first, & would leave sweat & minute skin tissues inside the gloves, as well as upon door frames to enter, toilets, electrical switches, etc, for further DNA traces of the murderer.

h) Although the area is reported as sparsely habited, any vehicle would still have to enter or exit main roads into the village. Shopkeepers, road sweepers, cleaners, pedestrians, etc would be the best source to look for & identify the vehicle & even occupants in the main roads into the village to the apartment & exits


It is NOT enough to CLAIM someone who is close to the victim, or owner/tenants of the kill room apartment as murderers & charge them for murder. It needs EVIDENCES to prove that he or they were participants of a slaughter. And EVIDENCES can be found through FORENSICS, proven by many solved cases Worldwide. Leave the MOTIVATION of the murder to the COURT, where each, in CIVILIZED nations, WILL have the right to free & fair trial, to solve the case.

The hongkee poodles cannot be trusted at all now. They are no different from the corrupted 公安.

 

[Willamshakespear]

It was reported today that Mdm Choi's mother, had filed a petition to the now China Ruled HK Courts to stop any sale of the disputed property & the 2nd part to revert that contested property back to Mdm Choi's estate/inheritance. It had been anticipated & only expected, a planned phase of operation to regain the million dollars worth property.

With the LEGAL owner of that property being the elderly Kwong, whom had been ACCUSED of the murder of the late Mdm Choi although WITH NO EVIDENCES, it is expected that a legal challenge will be mounted at this stage, earlier than expected thru the strategy of strike while it is hot, so that judges whom make the final legal decision, will grant Mdm Choi's mother petition.

Unfortunately, in reality, judges ARE appointed for their legal experiences in dealing with many more complicated issues over years, as they only interprete legislated laws, more so over non-political issues.

LEGAL ownership is a Human Right, & will stay such, even under dictatorship rule or else how to pacify citizens for support?. How judges will consider this case is that as there are disputes over ownership of the said property, they will grant the 1st part - to stop the sale of the property. As for the 2nd part on reverting ownership from the elderly Kwong to mdm Choi's mother, it will be delayed as there is NO evidence that it was a case of murder by the Kwong family to inherit the wealth of mdm Choi.

Should the elderly Kwong be convicted as the murderer of mdm Choi beyond any reasonable doubt & with evidences, the insignificant nobody me will push for his elimination & others involved, as such animals must be destroyed before they can be emboldened & destroy the rest of us Humankind.

However, if he is proven innocent, then he & his family will have to consider their options to survive, in the face of higher powers whom are hell bent on getting back that property, even stooping to barbaric levels to use, abuse & even brutally slaughter a woman-the late mdm Choi, as a conduit to serve theirs, their group or even consortium purposes. Such animals did not get rich by throwing money away but by savings. Each dollar they spend, they sought to ensure to get back $3 in returns, in cash or in kind. Every single penny counts to them.

Therefore, if the Kwong family walks free, & wish to survive, the elderly Kwong will have to Declare in a public acknowledged WILL, that should anything happen to him or any of his family & dies, that contested property will be sold & proceeds DONATED to Charities. Should he Will his wealth to his relatives, he will only put them in danger as the tentacles of the rich & powerful are long.

But to donate to Charities, the rich & powerful will not be able to fight against such respected institutions, & will have to come to terms with REALITIES & negotiate in good faith with the elderly Kwong for each's survival for win-win solutions. It is the only card the elderly Kwong can hold against the rich & powerful, & then disappear off the grid to perhaps Panama & live out the rest of his life, in atonement for the wrongs & bad choices he had done to others & to his family-the building blocks of civilization.

 

[Willamshakespear]

It's been relative quiet over the news of the gruesome murder of a lady whom may had been used & abused that had shocked & garnered Worldwide attention. Probably because investigations are going on, but may none lose focus on such an issue, as the implications to Humanity & its evolution is HUGE.

As the investigations went on, more & more accessories & accomplices to the horrific murder is dug out, thanks to the sincere efforts & co-operation from dedicated officers within the CCP govt & in HK. Such only establishes a LINK in the chain that led to the abominable slaughter of a Human child whom when endowed with riches beyond imagination from her Cinderalla humble beginnings, rightfully or wrongfully gained, had never failed to provide for her loved ones & those whom she respected, even on social media to many of her followers. NO Human deserves such a ghastly death, not even criminals.

However, with the uncovering of the woodwork behind her awful slaughter, FOCUS MUST be upon the one or ones whom committed such atrocity to another fellow Human. May the China HK Police force succeed. As there is NO evidence of the Kwong family involved in the murder, as yet, the ACTUAL MURDERER, based upon evidences, needs to be found out to face JUSTICE, because if we Humanity do not, it will only EMBOLDEN him to commit the same to others as well as ENCOURAGE others to do the same.

WORSE if he is a paid butcher, which means he is a contractual beast on hire by others, whom ARE SENDING a message to national authorities of what they are capable of & best live on knees to their demands, which NO National Govt should allow.

Instead, may the National Govt ferret him and/or his organization out, investigate his links & send a message back to whomever that had ordered & paid for such barbarity - WHO is the BOSS & WHO Rules the country by national sovereign consensus, or else, only chaos will reign, & the CCP govt will eventually lose the support of even its diehard supporters, whom looked upon them for fair justice, peace & equality.

 

[blackmondy]

As far as I'm concern, the hongkee poodles are forging their own made-up narratives and make sure no CCPee elites involved are implicated in anyway whatsoever.

 

[Willamshakespear]

A rough draft script for an upcoming potential movie, Part 4:-

In a non-descript 2 storey apartment in Wanchai Hk, a group of 14 men from diverse regions in the World - Westerners, Arabs, Asians, met up & gather within the large opulent study room, filled with thick carpets & floor to wall shelves of books, amidst the thick smell of cigars & expensive wines, chatting with each other.

Mr Tan, the last member of the group- a consortium - finally deigns to arrive & walks into the room. Mr Pang - a descendant of the 1st Chinese comprador by blood lineage dating back to the 1st England trading company Far East Trading that pushed England to leased Hong Kong from China dated back to 1842 , walked to the bar counter, poured a glass of Louis 13, handed to Mr Tan, welcomed him & bided him to a seat on the last armchair in the room in circular fashion facing everyone.

Mr. Pang: " You look troubled, Mr. Tan. Do tell us our woes.."

Mr. Tan: " I know why this rare meeting is convened. My son, Christopher, had made a grievious mistake over the issue of the US$7 million dollar apartment by attempting to regain it back, & is a concern to the consortium as more & more of our century old organization details are being pried out from the woodwork, whom had been successful in assisting many rich China businessmen, as well as military Generals & politicians, to transfer their wealth to safer havens & live life for their families & generations."

Mr. Pang: " It is indeed a concern. No matter how we as a group tried to change the narratives to distract the case from us, there are others whom are far more focused than usual, made worse by PrezXi whom is fully against corruption & had sent his dedicated representatives to dig out reality. The more they dig, the more it will put our consortium into danger as each day goes by. Thus we will have to put a stop to it. There are only so much one can do to alter realities, which eventually will surface. What would you recommend?"

Mr. Tan: " I had studied the case, with help from our best lawyers. There is no escape. I understand that our consortium have no place for failures. For years, my policy of positive engagement had worked, but sadly my ambitious & impetuous son did not share such beliefs. Enough is enough to him, after years of personal funding to his wife's family & yet they only cried for more & resulted in this tragedy. Our consortium will never take Human lives unnecessarily but only as a last resort.

He lost his patience. I will sacrifice & take the blame & admit to the authorities that I personally ordered the murder. Which father would not love his son?"

Mr. Pang: " You are a man of honor, that is why you have been chosen to belong to our consortium. We expected such from you & will proceed with your plan. We will get to work, to make it seemed like you had only acted out of insanity in a moment of rage, make a plea before the judges with the best lawyers money can buy & after a few yrs in jail, you will return back to ordinary life, so long as you maintain your oath of silence-never to reveal our organization.

As for your impetuous son, we will overlook his miscreations, out of respect to you & your sacrifice, although it must be stated we do not condone his stupid & savage acts which will only bring deep investigations & doom to our century quiet group. However, the plan is that he will seemed to be mentally estranged with the double tragedy - his wife & then his father, & then disappear from mainstream press to seek a reclusive life in some quiet corner of Earth to live out the rest of his life, & will be well provided for, so long as he maintains the oath of silence.

Mr. Tan: " It is agreed." As the rest of the group nodded their heads in agreement, & finished their glasses of wine.....

 

[blackmondy]

A rough draft script for an upcoming potential movie, Part 4:-

In a non-descript 2 storey apartment in Wanchai Hk, a group of 14 men from diverse regions in the World - Westerners, Arabs, Asians, met up & gather within the large opulent study room, filled with thick carpets & floor to wall shelves of books, amidst the thick smell of cigars & expensive wines, chatting with each other.

Mr Tan, the last member of the group- a consortium - finally deigns to arrive & walks into the room. Mr Pang - a descendant of the 1st Chinese comprador by blood lineage dating back to the 1st England trading company Far East Trading that pushed England to leased Hong Kong from China dated back to 1842 , walked to the bar counter, poured a glass of Louis 13, handed to Mr Tan, welcomed him & bided him to a seat on the last armchair in the room in circular fashion facing everyone.

Mr. Pang: " You look troubled, Mr. Tan. Do tell us our woes.."

Mr. Tan: " I know why this rare meeting is convened. My son, Christopher, had made a grievious mistake over the issue of the US$7 million dollar apartment by attempting to regain it back, & is a concern to the consortium as more & more of our century old organization details are being pried out from the woodwork, whom had been successful in assisting many rich China businessmen, as well as military Generals & politicians, to transfer their wealth to safer havens & live life for their families & generations."

Mr. Pang: " It is indeed a concern. No matter how we as a group tried to change the narratives to distract the case from us, there are others whom are far more focused than usual, made worse by PrezXi whom is fully against corruption & had sent his dedicated representatives to dig out reality. The more they dig, the more it will put our consortium into danger as each day goes by. Thus we will have to put a stop to it. There are only so much one can do to alter realities, which eventually will surface. What would you recommend?"

Mr. Tan: " I had studied the case, with help from our best lawyers. There is no escape. I understand that our consortium have no place for failures. For years, my policy of positive engagement had worked, but sadly my ambitious & impetuous son did not share such beliefs. Enough is enough to him, after years of personal funding to his wife's family & yet they only cried for more & resulted in this tragedy. Our consortium will never take Human lives unnecessarily but only as a last resort.

He lost his patience. I will sacrifice & take the blame & admit to the authorities that I personally ordered the murder. Which father would not love his son?"

Mr. Pang: " You are a man of honor, that is why you have been chosen to belong to our consortium. We expected such from you & will proceed with your plan. We will get to work, to make it seemed like you had only acted out of insanity in a moment of rage, make a plea before the judges with the best lawyers money can buy & after a few yrs in jail, you will return back to ordinary life, so long as you maintain your oath of silence-never to reveal our organization.

As for your impetuous son, we will overlook his miscreations, out of respect to you & your sacrifice, although it must be stated we do not condone his stupid & savage acts which will only bring deep investigations & doom to our century quiet group. However, the plan is that he will seemed to be mentally estranged with the double tragedy - his wife & then his father, & then disappear from mainstream press to seek a reclusive life in some quiet corner of Earth to live out the rest of his life, & will be well provided for, so long as he maintains the oath of silence.

Mr. Tan: " It is agreed." As the rest of the group nodded their heads in agreement, & finished their glasses of wine.....

It will not be approved by CCPee 林北 can guarantee.

 

[batman1]

No end to the plot.

 

[Willamshakespear]

Justice must NOT be akin to giving a dog a bad name & then hang the dog. The main suspects in the murder case are no doubt parasites, scums of societies as played up by some media sources & labelled as such, but even they are fellow Humans too.

Justice needs EVIDENCES, more so for murder cases as it carries a capital punishment - death. It needs to be proven BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBTS, & that's where the line should be drawn, so as NOT to hang an innocent fellow Human, but ENSURE the guilty faces justice, especially this gruesome murder case which captured attention Worldwide, as it is beyond comprehension on how a Human would SLAUGHTER another in such horrific manner.

The motivations for such slaying may be many, & are only used as mitigating factors by defendants & a means to gain leniency. More critical is that the true murderer be found, based upon evidences, be charged & sentenced for the crime by learned, wise & chosen judges, in order for true justice to be served, & Humanity learn from such incidents to prevent another. And equally, a closure for the victim's family...

 

[blackmondy]

Justice must NOT be akin to giving a dog a bad name & then hang the dog. The main suspects in the murder case are no doubt parasites, scums of societies as played up by some media sources & labelled as such, but even they are fellow Humans too.

Justice needs EVIDENCES, more so for murder cases as it carries a capital punishment - death. It needs to be proven BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBTS, & that's where the line should be drawn, so as NOT to hang an innocent fellow Human, but ENSURE the guilty faces justice, especially this gruesome murder case which captured attention Worldwide, as it is beyond comprehension on how a Human would SLAUGHTER another in such horrific manner.

The motivations for such slaying may be many, & are only used as mitigating factors by defendants & a means to gain leniency. More critical is that the true murderer be found, based upon evidences, be charged & sentenced for the crime by learned, wise & chosen judges, in order for true justice to be served, & Humanity learn from such incidents to prevent another. And equally, a closure for the victim's family...

You cannot talk about justice when the cuntry is run by gangsters.