You mean he double-tapped his maid? Where does it say?Thats not really true.
Abraham had two sons from one woman.
You mean he double-tapped his maid? Where does it say?Thats not really true.
Abraham had two sons from one woman.
Hi bro, was just observing the goings on. If you ask how many millions are in his corner, I'm afraid that the number is actually quite high. Already in SBF the proportion of posters who are upset about Islamic practices is high. In the general population too, there are plenty of people who will quietly put up with but secretly detest Islamic practices and/or people. My cause for concern is that while I share with you the opinion that most Muslims are not zealous religious murderers, there are enough Islamic practices that get people offended to the point of causing hatred.
For example, you can eat meat with a vegetarian, but you must not eat pork in the vicinity of a Muslim. Now, I know that peoples experiences differ and that you may have had no such problem, but it seems that the people complaining here have been subject to that.
For a good example presented here, I suggest nayr69sg. He was forced to feed his baby outside of a restaurant they were patronizing. That is just a downright nasty and mean thing to do to a family with a baby. The reason given to him for his treatment was Islamic rules. I'm inclined to think it's the way sinkies tend to narrowly interpret and obediently follow rules, power-tripping in the process without thought or compassion. Or to borrow and mangle your phrase, luan lai lampah song.
Whether or not Islam has to do with it I would ask the Muslims here to volunteer their thoughts on it. Would you guys eject a family feeding a baby for feeding ownself prepared food because it's not halal-certified or prepared on premises? I would like to know. But whatever the opinion is, the fact remains is that he was ejected on the grounds that it was against their religion and that's what he has experienced and all that he will understand. The only reason given to him was that it was against Islam and that's what he will remember. If you put enough people through that experience, you will end up with lots of people hating Islam as you see here.
I'm afraid that the number is actually quite high. Already in SBF the proportion of posters who are upset about Islamic practices is high. In the general population too, there are plenty of people who will quietly put up with but secretly detest Islamic practices and/or people. My cause for concern is that while I share with you the opinion that most Muslims are not zealous religious murderers, there are enough Islamic practices that get people offended to the point of causing hatred.
I am going to use the food example as a test case for what I'm saying. A lot of people here are put off by the fact that while other special groups are tolerant of differences, Muslims in Singapore generally demand special treatment. For example, you can eat meat with a vegetarian, but you must not eat pork in the vicinity of a Muslim. Now, I know that peoples experiences differ and that you may have had no such problem, but it seems that the people complaining here have been subject to that.
no disagreement from me. the older the story the more likely it strays further from the truth. I would argue that most faiths are more than 50% fiction created to suit the ruling and priesthood classes.Modified Is one thing, even dead fart is super modified. The issue with Muhammad is he might not even be real. That is really a tall story taken as reality
When I worked as a land administrator there was a colleague who wears a hijab. She is from Egypt. Muslim. We get regular lunch sessions and the company gets subway and pizza. We order not pork choices for her. She is happy to eat with us. No problem.
I made some friends here who are from Malaysia. Something called a Malaysian singapore Brunei club.
For the Chinese new year gathering we were planning what food to bring. The Malaysians insisted no pork because they were inviting the muslims.
I was like hey it is Chinese new year. Bak kwa?
Malaysian Chinese insisted no. Must be respectful to the malays. And they had to invite the malays out of respect because the malays invite them for hari raya gatherings.
I went along with it. But just that year. No more after that.
Islam is not inclusive at all. It is the very most far right extremist religion out there. Read the Quran properly.
The Malaysians having lived under Malay Islamic rulers all their lives are indoctrinated to be careful not to offend their rulers.
So Islam is a bully. When they are the minority in order to survive the muslims will keep quiet. Eat what they can.
When they become the majority they will bully outright in the name of their far right extremist religion.
I am not sure if you are new to this forum.
If you are, I can assure you that the Chinese and Indian loonies in this forum are hardly representative of the general population. If they are, the PAP would have been overthrown at every general election, judging from the shiok-sendiri polls that predict the PAP's decapitation in each election.
This is an Echo Chamber, a classic case of loonies of a feather flocking together. People predisposed to a similar line of thinking join and find comfort in hearing like-minded voices. They are egged on by each other, their voices amplified by their clones and that of like-minded, no balls, no brains Jenerals and Jeneral wannabes. They then start thinking their minority voices and their behaviour is the norm and that held by the majority.
When facts and figures prove them wrong, they will (just like what you have done) claim there are "plenty" more in their corner without being able to substantiate what they claim. Or, they will assert that the majority are "virtual signallers", again without being able to substantiate their "virtual signalling" claims with facts and figures.
There used to be saner voices and hard-hitters in the past. They all have left leaving these irrational minor voices behind. Sane people are deterred from joining this forum simply because this forum is not their cup of tea. They find it too "hard-core".
Whilst I have no doubt that there are numbers in his camp, they are a minority. They belong to that of the fairly unintelligent and irrational. They will hold no sway over the rational and pragmatic majority, just as the communists and Chinese chauvinists in the past held no sway over the Chinese majority.
These clowns are the Ginfreely nutcases equivalents. They are fucking obsessed with all things Malays and Muslims. Replace their "Muslims" with "Hokkiens", "Muslim President" with "Latha", "halal" with "firecrackers", "tuding" with "JB house" etc, and there you have it, Ginfreely nutcases equivalents who the rational majority ignore, or mock and ridicule when they have some time on their hands to do so.
Already there. It happens in any forum.When I have the time, I will post two identical videos of a US congressional hearing held a few days ago to show how birds flocking together start thinking that their voices are the "norm" and that held by the majority.
How exactly many "people" are complaining here? Judging by their fucked-up attitudes, I am inclined to believe that their fucked-up behaviour and their negative vibes will trigger off similar negative reactions from others, not just Malays/Muslims.
That clown who claims to be a doctor is hardly a "good example". He is an inconsiderate, self-entitled idiot. Instead of being apologetic like a normal human being when caught doing the wrong thing, he turned confrontational and wanted to blame someone instead.
His sob story that it involved his one-year old daughter is of no relevance. Otherwise, you will start having people using their toddlers to steal, smuggle drugs, etc.
High in SBF forum? Alot of people? How u know they are not clones. Just the other day, i noticed suddenly all the old nicks appearing. One of them is Laksaboy?
Just cos so "many" ( handful to me) here day in day out kpkb abt anything concerning Islam/Malay, means they are right and speak the gospel truth. Just give a very good example. Do u realise so many here are also anti PAP. Pro Opposition. Talk so many bad things abt PAP. Yet they live with it....voted for PAP. 70% of them. Still trust those from echo chambers?
I never said they should eat pork. I said halal meat means the animals must be killed in certain way. If not, that means the meat is not halal regardless of whether it is pork or not. Not only that, halal certification means pork cannot be served at the same place.Hindus don't generally take meat as Hinduism see eating meat as perpetuating violence on animals.
Like Muslims, Jews do not eat pork out of religious consideration. Ditto for Christian denominations like the Seventh-Day Adventists, Ethiophian and Eritrean Orthodox Christians. The followers of these Christian denominations are forbidden from consuming pork. Yazidism similarly forbids the consumption of pork.
Catholics are forbidden to eat meat on Fridays.
These are people's religious beliefs. It has nothing to do with your stupid claims of "Islam being a disease" or your nonsensical claims of "backward practices".
Trudope clown.
Corrupt.
I am no liberal.
Alberta elections going on now. UCP Jason Kenney will stand up to Trudope.
some of them may be clones, but I think there are quite a few different ones. As to how I know, I'm guessing, but sometime ago, someone said that you and ptader were clones and I said you were not. You guys write too differently.
That's just the thing. As a proportion here, they outnumber the 3 of you. yourself, SP and PT. If you notice, there are the main guys who do most of the stuff, but every now and then someone not in the regular group jumps in. This I feel is the silent majority who once in a while says something. Now I will NOT say they are right and speak gospel truth. It is their version and their gospel. Whether it's the truth or not is another matter.
The thing that concerns me is that while you hear from some of these guys, I hear from people outside this forum who are just thinking similar things but thinking it a volume 0 or 1 instead of shouting here at volume 10. And that concerns me. I don't like that people are hating, but still I cannot deny that they have cause to hate. Here, let me ask you. Talking again about nayr69sg and being asked to feed baby outside the restaurant. If you were the manager what would you do? If you were sitting next table what would you say? Please tell me your thoughts but don't ask me baca again, aku pengsan. I just want to know what you would do.
And as for anti-PAP that is also a cause for concern if I were PAP. But let's leave that for another time ok? I am writing on this topic today because I want to hear opinions about nayr69sg's case.
Yes sent.so I guess it's down with notley. btw, I've been trying to figure out how to send a PM to you. Is there some way you can start a conversation with me first or something?
Well, fuck that trouble making, narrow-minded m&d family. May members of their family become radicalised and get arrested by the authorities, or get blown to pieces by the US when they join ISIS or other terrorist groups. Having said that, I would say they are the exception. Most would be ok and be more understanding. That m&d family probably saw Swensen's as very atas (can only afford to eat there once a month on salary day), so they behaved snobbishly.For the record it was chicken porridge. And I told the manager that. He said the rule is no outside food allowed whatsoever.
I asked if swensens had a menu for babies that we could order from. And he said no.
He pleaded with me saying that he has no choice but to accede to the Muslim family's order that we be ejected or else he would lose the halal certification.
My wife and I have never felt so discriminated in our lives.
We understand the halal rules. No outside food. But we thought if it is for like a baby and there is nothing in the menu for them the establishment can condone it. I guess we were wrong. The MUIS rule is strictly exclusive. No matter what age or condition you are.
No other racial group or religion would do such a thing as to eject a baby from a restaurant for eating what she could only eat which is not in the menu. I have see Malay families feed their babies home prepared food in halal restaurants too.
Well, fuck that trouble making, narrow-minded m&d family. May members of their family become radicalised and get arrested by the authorities, or get blown to pieces by the US when they join ISIS or other terrorist groups. Having said that, I would say they are the exception. Most would be ok and be more understanding. That m&d family probably saw Swensen's as very atas (can only afford to eat there once a month on salary day), so they behaved snobbishly.
There was once I ordered bak chor mee at a coffee shop. I sat at the same shared table with a group of three m&ds. It was in the smoking section with limited tables, so I had no choice. I know they can smell my porky lunch as I devoured it, but they did not mind. And we even smiled and nodded to one another when they moved off after their smoke. This is the way it should be.
For the record it was chicken porridge. And I told the manager that. He said the rule is no outside food allowed whatsoever.
I asked if swensens had a menu for babies that we could order from. And he said no.
He pleaded with me saying that he has no choice but to accede to the Muslim family's order that we be ejected or else he would lose the halal certification.
My wife and I have never felt so discriminated in our lives.
We understand the halal rules. No outside food. But we thought if it is for like a baby and there is nothing in the menu for them the establishment can condone it. I guess we were wrong. The MUIS rule is strictly exclusive. No matter what age or condition you are.
No other racial group or religion would do such a thing as to eject a baby from a restaurant for eating what she could only eat which is not in the menu. I have see Malay families feed their babies home prepared food in halal restaurants too.
Here's the thing.
The rules for halal certification support the radical malays to bully.
The rules and law does that.
So you end up being at the mercy of the malays whether they want to be nice and bo chup or throw the law at you.
That's the difference.
It is another thing if there was no such law and we all just treated each other with respect and consideration and asked each other to be accommodating.
Why the need for a rule that allows one religion to evict people from eateries?
Your mats at the table could have kicked up a fuss and thrown the law at you. And you would be in the wrong and being religiously insensitive.
If there was a rule that says non-halal food cannot be consumed at a halal section, and it is clearly demarcated, then I wouldn't have sat there. But we know coffee shops and food courts do not have this rule. Yet or if ever.Here's the thing.
The rules for halal certification support the radical malays to bully.
The rules and law does that.
So you end up being at the mercy of the malays whether they want to be nice and bo chup or throw the law at you.
That's the difference.
It is another thing if there was no such law and we all just treated each other with respect and consideration and asked each other to be accommodating.
Why the need for a rule that allows one religion to evict people from eateries?
Your mats at the table could have kicked up a fuss and thrown the law at you. And you would be in the wrong and being religiously insensitive.
I will be nasty n says serves u right for going to a halal foreign cuisine establishment. I said b4 I have stopped going to McD etc bcos they pander to the minority and their BS. I have seen hijab wearing families go to a cina restaurant. They just don't prefer pork. N was told they were Indons. But for singkies n mudland m&ds, it's halal this n tat etc. Look at the halal BS in mudland, and m&ds are tolerant? Talk about hypocrisy from the BS spewed by the resident mudslime whore n her Gimp the Prostitute Trader.For the record it was chicken porridge. And I told the manager that. He said the rule is no outside food allowed whatsoever.
I asked if swensens had a menu for babies that we could order from. And he said no.
He pleaded with me saying that he has no choice but to accede to the Muslim family's order that we be ejected or else he would lose the halal certification.
My wife and I have never felt so discriminated in our lives.
We understand the halal rules. No outside food. But we thought if it is for like a baby and there is nothing in the menu for them the establishment can condone it. I guess we were wrong. The MUIS rule is strictly exclusive. No matter what age or condition you are.
No other racial group or religion would do such a thing as to eject a baby from a restaurant for eating what she could only eat which is not in the menu. I have see Malay families feed their babies home prepared food in halal restaurants too.
This is another example of mudslime tolerance.For the record it was chicken porridge. And I told the manager that. He said the rule is no outside food allowed whatsoever.
I asked if swensens had a menu for babies that we could order from. And he said no.
He pleaded with me saying that he has no choice but to accede to the Muslim family's order that we be ejected or else he would lose the halal certification.
My wife and I have never felt so discriminated in our lives.
We understand the halal rules. No outside food. But we thought if it is for like a baby and there is nothing in the menu for them the establishment can condone it. I guess we were wrong. The MUIS rule is strictly exclusive. No matter what age or condition you are.
No other racial group or religion would do such a thing as to eject a baby from a restaurant for eating what she could only eat which is not in the menu. I have see Malay families feed their babies home prepared food in halal restaurants too.