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A very serious concern here....

u sound like a pro USA agent urself.........this forum has been here for the last ten years i have never seen any edmwer give a shyt about it.....but all of a sudden in the past 12 months so many pro USA dogs create accounts here to tell us about CCP/pro China ibs on edmw?lol?are u even anti PAP on edmw?do u even care about SG politics the core of edmw and SBF forum topics?
I noticed it too. Even though I'm relatively new here, for as long as I can remember SBF always had a few Chinese chauvinist trolls. Same old characters. But in the last few months this forum has 180 degrees changed.

I can't be sure, but it seems like this Wuhan made everyone so miserable, they took it personally and came in here to get some revenge.

Only my speculation. Please feel free to ignore.
 
But China is the root cause of misery for billions right now, not the PAP. Even far remote outposts in the world are suffering from the China Virus. Timbuktu for example. What did the people there do to China? No wonder the whole planet of Earth wants to attack China right now.

Virtually everything associated with China today is bad, negative and no good for Singapore. It needs to stop before the Singapore we know is gone.
Chinese commie pseudo-dictator gahmen is leading the way in crap.

Indian traditions, society and sexist/racist/everythingist caste system is leading the way in crap.

See who does more damage in the long run... .:roflmao:
 
People can have their own views but I do not believe any Sinkies could have such extreme views on either end. The pro China factions are either Chinese Ed background, former Malaysian Chinese (who are majority proChina) or 2nd generation PRC immigrants. The pro US camp sounds like Honkie immigrants, Falungong operatives or simply lao hero who emigrated for their American dreams.
 
People can have their own views but I do not believe any Sinkies could have such extreme views on either end. The pro China factions are either Chinese Ed background, former Malaysian Chinese (who are majority proChina) or 2nd generation PRC immigrants. The pro US camp sounds like Honkie immigrants, Falungong operatives or simply lao hero who emigrated for their American dreams.
Shoo CECA shitskin shooo! go back to INdia you darkie fake degree Shitskin Shooo!
 
People can have their own views but I do not believe any Sinkies could have such extreme views on either end. The pro China factions are either Chinese Ed background, former Malaysian Chinese (who are majority proChina) or 2nd generation PRC immigrants. The pro US camp sounds like Honkie immigrants, Falungong operatives or simply lao hero who emigrated for their American dreams.

You are right.

Yes, Sinkies are the smart asses we're coolie genes lol..... hence we don't have a heritage/lineage or real traditional baggage like as if our ancestors are some famous righteous saints like Lao Tzu or Confucius or even Sun yat Sen so we're actually very practical but not low class we're proud bastards too we did well didn't we ?!!

Whatever benefits us better we'll take it. You think PAP really can only bully us ? Only some losers kpkb that is inevitable every country have the lower IQ and some lazy ones the majority are willing because they brought the boomers out of poverty that's a fact and they've made many of us rich as fark too.

We're not that simple. lol.....
 
Chinese commie pseudo-dictator gahmen is leading the way in crap.

Indian traditions, society and sexist/racist/everythingist caste system is leading the way in crap.

See who does more damage in the long run... .:roflmao:
It seems the CCP is using its experience of converting the vast rural populations of China into a homogeneous society of brainwashed communists as an international export. Studies are showing they are spreading their tentacles all over the globe, infiltrating until they dominate societies, whole continents with their socialist agenda.

The Indians may be full of crap but the threat is real from China. We are all in trouble unless something is done.
 
Commentary: WeChat ban a formidable weapon in US-China trade war
The hawks in Donald Trump’s administration are on the ascent. Do not expect the US to u-turn on this march towards a harsher stance on China, say Steven R Okun and James Green.
A WeChat logo is displayed on a mobile phone as a woman walks past as she talks on her mobile phone at a taxi rank in this picture taken on Jul 21, 2016. (Photo: REUTERS/Siphiwe Sibeko)Bookmark
SINGAPORE: Last week’s suite of actions by the United States against WeChat and TikTok were among the most significant developments since March 2018 when US President Donald took formal action in retaliation for China’s unfair trade practices.
Not since the US government’s decision to block Singapore-based Broadcom’s attempt to acquire Qualcomm on national security grounds then could the US-China trade war directly impact companies based in the region.
In particular, potential action prohibiting doing business with WeChat could impact how regional businesses operate in the region.
WeChat plays a big a role in daily communications, IT services and beyond in doing business in and with China. All sorts of activities between Chinese and foreign companies, and intra-company communications between a foreign company and Chinese offices of those companies, ends up on WeChat.
Much remains unknown regarding to what extent doing business utilising WeChat will be prohibited and to whom the ban will apply.
But the implications and drivers of this latest saga seem clear.
THE CHINA HAWKS ARE WINNING
Two distinct camps have always co-existed within the Trump administration when it comes to China: The globalists and the China hawks.
The globalists, typified by Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and Director of the National Economic Council Larry Kudlow, argue that the US and China live in a global economy and that negotiated trade deals between the two countries benefit the United States.
US Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow pose for a photograph, Feb 21, 2019. (Photo: REUTERS/Joshua Roberts)
The China hawks, led by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and White House Director Trade and Manufacturing Policy Peter Navarro, believe advancing the US public interest requires confronting and decoupling from China.
Until now, President Trump maintained something of an equilibrium between these two factions. While he sympathised with the hawks, he believed his best path to re-election was a strong economy and that would be best achieved through trade deals with China.
However, with record unemployment and US economic growth plummeting, Trump’s re-election chances no longer rest on his economic record. The hawks are ascendant and driving US policy towards China.
THE US-CHINA RIVALRY HEATS UP
Over a span of four speeches the past two months, the Trump administration delivered a harsh message of a once-in-a-generation life-or-death ideological struggle between the US and China. Such rhetoric advance a very different narrative set forth by previous administrations.
National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien began the rollout explicitly warning of the threat the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) poses “to our very way of life” at the Arizona Commerce Authority on Jun 24.
READ: Commentary: Help, I love tech monopolies!
Next, FBI Director Christopher Wray described the CCP’s active espionage efforts in the United States a threat to “our health, our livelihoods, and our security” at a Hudson Institute event on Jul 7.
Attorney-General William Barr furthered the administration’s case and specifically called out US companies for sharing technology with Chinese partners and genuflecting to Beijing’s censors and policy demands on Jul 17 at the Gerald R Ford Presidential Museum in Michigan.
In what is now seen as a major policy speech, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library in California on Jul 24, argued the CCP is driven to world domination, and the United States and its allies must stand up to this global menace.
Consistent with the overall framework outlined by the four prominent Cabinet officials, the Trump administration rolled out a series of announcements and policies aimed at China.
Earlier moves over the last month include the sudden closure of the Chinese consulate in Houston, sanctions on Chinese companies and officials for activities in Xinjiang, and a declaration that Chinese claims in the South China Sea are “completely unlawful”.
WHAT THE WECHAT BAN ENTAILS
One of the most high profile of the new policies is the White House Executive Order (EO) against WeChat.
The messenger app WeChat and short-video app TikTok are seen near China and U.S. flags in this illustration picture taken Aug 7, 2020. (File Illustration: REUTERS/Florence Lo)
The EO holds that what WeChat collects from its users “threatens to allow the Chinese Communist Party access to Americans’ personal and proprietary information. In addition, the application captures the personal and proprietary information of Chinese nationals visiting the United States, thereby allowing the Chinese Communist Party a mechanism for keeping tabs on Chinese citizens who may be enjoying the benefits of a free society for the first time in their lives.”
Using authority from the sweeping International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), the EO instructs the Secretary of Commerce to review all US interaction with the social media platform to make a detailed determination in 45 days about prohibited transactions.
The EO could ban the Chinese app from US platforms, including the Android and Apple operating systems.
Based on US precedence, any ban could apply to US persons and companies. We also do not yet know if it will cover any business related to a US company or just a subset of one.
READ: Commentary: The US-China tech rivalry is fracturing the world and affecting trade, firms and jobs
Something much less may come out after the one-and-a-half-month review. Unlike the carefully drafted and administered tariffs imposed for Chinese forced-technology transfer policies, the WeChat order is poorly written and leave open the possibility of a court challenge.
For example, the EO prohibits "any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with Tencent Holdings".
But what counts as a covered "transaction"? Exchanging messages with another WeChat user? Reading an article from a Chinese entity posted on its official WeChat account? Paying for a product or service using WeChat Pay?
Further, WeChat parent company Tencent has a research office in Silicon Valley and a track record of paying significant sums for US content - US$1.5 billion to broadcast NBA games in China, for example. That would likely give the company a hefty financial incentive to challenge a blanket ban which could delay any implementation.
FILE PHOTO: People walk past a Tencent sign at the company headquarters in Shenzhen, Guangdong province, China August 7, 2020. REUTERS/David Kirton
While the courts have generally deferred to the US executive branch on issues of national security, the claim there is an “economic emergency” is expansive and may go beyond the 1977 IEEPA statute, originally enacted in post-Watergate reforms to limit presidential power.
POLITICS LINES UP WITH POLICY
Nothing this major happens at this time of a presidential campaign without politics being a major factor.
Trump’s governing actions have always been driven by whether they will help him get re-elected.
Now, with just over two months till Election Day, getting even tougher on China, even if it means walking away from the Phase I trade deal commitments to purchase US goods, drives Trump’s decision making.
Nothing recently has changed with regard to the national security concerns which would warrant a shift in position.
What has changed are Trump’s re-election chances. The administration may be more interested in generating news coverage of the China threat before the November election than in taking the time to construct a careful legal position that would withstand challenge in court.
 
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