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Might be trigger happy Ukraine army or rebel, more likely Ukraine army, as they have been known to shoot first and talk later....
Not the Ukrainians its the rebels.
Might be trigger happy Ukraine army or rebel, more likely Ukraine army, as they have been known to shoot first and talk later....
27 Australian killed.
2 Brits?
Malaysian?
Singaporean?
23 Malaysians. No Sinkies, no 90 plus year old old man
Did the pilot eat before flying?
Did the pilots forget to switch on transponder, etc and unable to identify the plane again?
Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 Reportedly Shot Down Over Ukraine
Update: so yes, it was shot down.
MALAYSIAN PASSENGER JET WAS SHOT DOWN AT 10 KM ALTITUDE: IFX
While we hope it is a horrific accident, and has yet to be officially confirmed by Malaysian Airlines, the timing is oddly coincidental.
INTERFAX SAYS PLANE MAY HAVE CRASHED NEAR RUSSIA-UKRAINE BORDER
MALAYSIAN BOEING 777 MAY HAVE CRASHED IN UKRAINE: INTERFAX
The crash happened near Donetsk and the plane had 280 passengers on board. The question is - accident? Or was it shot down by Russia or Ukraine as a provocation.
The passenger jet was bound for Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam, Interfax reports, citing an unidentified aviation official.
Airliner began losing altitude 50 km before entering Russian air space; wreckage was found burning on Ukrainian territory
Crash happend near Donetsk, where Ukrainian govt troops are fighting rebels: IFX
people on SQ351 should buy 4D. The difference probably is a few minute.
his cohorts will probably find refuge here with their moneyThe fucking Putin is a murderer for supplying those arms to the Russian rebels. Like I've said before, all Commies must never be trusted. So, if the current territorial disputes in the South and East China Seas are not resolved, such tragedies may also result in this part of the world.
My condolences go out to all those on board. Poor MAS is just an innocent victim from this conflict, all initiated by the fucking Russians.
Captured audio call of terrorists Russian NO TRANSLATION for this moment. This record been released by Security Service of Ukraine.
[source, from parent]
Translation:
0:20: A: Just now, just now, "Minera" group downed an airplane. It fell on Yenakivo.
0:26: B: Pilots? Where are the pilots?
0:29: A: We're going now to search and take photos of the wreckage.
0:33: B: How long ago?
0:34: A: About 30 minutes.
[At this point, video skips ahead to a different conversation, apparently some time later and between two different people]
0:44: C: Yes, "Major"
0:45: D: From Chernuhino, they downed the plane.
0:48: C: Who?
0:49: C: From Chernuhino post, cossacks that are stationed at Chernukino.
0:56: C: The plane broke up in mid-air, near Petropavlosk mine. First 200 (ed: ?). Found first 200 (ed: ?). Civilian.
1:12: D: So what's going on?
1:15: C: Stupid civilian plane.
1:18: D: Understood. Are there many people?
1:20: C: FUBAR. Wreckage falling right in peoples yards.
1:24: D: What model?
1:26: C: I haven't figured it out yet. Haven't yet gotten to the main debris. I'm still where the first bodies fell.
1:31: C: There's wreckage of internal containers, seats, bodies.
1:35: D: Understood. Are there any weapons?
1:37: C: Nothing at all. Civilian stuff, medical supplies, towels, toilet paper.
1:43: D: Any documents?
1:45: C: Yes. Indonesian student. From Thompson university.
[Another cut, several more people]
1:52: About that plane shot down near Snezhnovo Torez. It turned out to be a passenger plane. Fell near Grabovo, there's lots of bodies, women and children. Right now the cossacks are inspecting it.
2:03: On TV they are saying AN-26, Ukrainian transport, but are saying it's labeled Malaysian Airlines.
2:12: What was it doing in Ukrainian territory?
2:16: Means it was transporting spies, understood?
2:18: Got it
2:19: Shouldn't fucking fly there. There's a war going on.
2:21: Understood.
[Edit: updated last line (2:16) to more accurately reflect original sentiment]
Some reports says that black box been stolen.
Nationally of the victims: 54 Unknown, 154 Dutch, 27 Australian, 23 Malaysian, 11 Indonesian, 6 UK, 4 German, 4 Belgian, 3 Philippines, One Canadian Source
Might be trigger happy Ukraine army or rebel, more likely Ukraine army, as they have been known to shoot first and talk later....
BUK Missile system SA11 or SA17 surface-to-Air missiles launchers can hit targets over 70,000 feet high.A few days back, a Ukraine Military Transport Antonov 26 flying at just over 20,000ft was shot down in roughly the same area. Airline operators should consider ceasing flights over Eastern Ukraine flight area....its just too risky.
NOTAM on this route was already issued before the incident but why did they ignored the it? Can't really blame any party other than Malaysia Airline. Shit happen in war zone.
The fucking Putin is a murderer for supplying those arms to the Russian rebels. Like I've said before, all Commies must never be trusted. So, if the current territorial disputes in the South and East China Seas are not resolved, such tragedies may also result in this part of the world.
Friend jus whassap me :
NOTAM on this route was already issued before the incident but why did they ignored the it? Can't really blame any party other than Malaysia Airline. Shit happen in war zone.
NOTAMS sometimes just advise the pilots regarding the latest developments of situations. They may give general advice in this case eg switching on all lights so that you can be seeen ( as opposed to trying hard not to be seen ) and being alert to all radio calls.
If it was NOTAMed that that routing could not be used then the flight would not have been routed along that area in the first place. There is no chance the the pilots disregarded any instructions.
Extract from BBC, with alleged culprit machinery..Why would Ukraine allow an (unidentified) aircraft flying in an easterly direction pass virtually across all its air space and then shoot it down just as it was entering Russian air space? Where is the logic here?
Plus, pro Russian rebels have been shooting down aircraft in that part of eastern Ukraine for the past few days.
That bastard Putin has blood on his hands.