‘According to Islamic rules, it is not permissible to make false accusations against authorities or criticize them’

[mudhatter]

I am not very sure of this statement. Its more to protect the ruling clerics position from being dethroned.

Didn't you admit that you are a Hindu?

Which of your 330 million deities is correct then? if one of them fights, or challenges, another, then who wins?

 

[JohnTan]

Are you an expert in Sharia now?

Which Islamic university did you gain your degree from again?

A slanty chink faggot who got his arse deflowered at a tender age and regularly since then by his ang moh kia pastors now claims to be an expert on Islamic Sharia!

I know more about the sharia than you. Period.

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was the last/final Messenger of Allah (SWT). Starting from Prophet Adam (PBUH), there have been numerous other prophets.

muhammad is not a prophet.

Even by islamic sources, muhammad isn't the final messanger of his allah. The final revelation of islam is recognized universally by moslems as the hadith book, compiled over 250 years after the first versions of the quran.

Judaism is not the first monotheist religion, so pretending Christianity or Judaism were copied by Islam is utterly asinine and ignorant.

Among other existing monotheistic religions are Zoroastrianiasm and many more, not that they are true.

The hard truth is that islam copied from Judaism and Christianity, borrowing the people from their religion and taking here and there from their religious text.

Other versions of non-abrahamic monotheist religions is their own business. No need to bring them in to distract from the fact that islam copied and religious text from the Torah and Bible.

The first prophet was Prophet Adam (PBUH), also the first human being.

I don't know of anybody who disputes that.

I dispute that. Even in the Torah and the Bible, while Adam was the first human being, he was certainly not recognized as a prophet either both Judaism and Christianity.

The moslem religion was founded by an illiterate bandit. So he thought that every guy mentioned in the Bible must be a prophet.

FYI, even some important people in the Bible, like King David and King Solomon, were not considered as prophets.

It seems you seem to generate all sorts of bogus, false, perverted ideas every time your pastor or priest pokes you in the arse and you can't contain your excitement.

In that case, it'd be advisable for you to stop being a faggot. I don't think you can do that, though, can you?

A bacha bazi boy like you is a faggot. Did you enjoy getting sodomized daily by your imam?

 

[Loofydralb]

My moslem friends in real life tell me that in islam, prayer is a one-way communication with their allah. Moslems talk to allah, allah doesn't talk back. If moslems want a response from allah, they are expected to find the response in the quran or the hadith.

You mean when you go to your church and after eating his flesh and drinking his blood, sing songs and dance, god talks back to you?
Seek help at IMH.

 

[JohnTan]

You mean when you go to your church and after eating his flesh and drinking his blood, sing songs and dance, god talks back to you?

Clearly you don't know much about your mohameddan religion. That's why you are constantly trying to change islam yet again to suit your current narrative.

If you acknowledge that your god doesn't even respond to your prayers, time to change your god.

Singing and dancing has long been used in islam to worship allah. Here's the same reminder, of moslems dancing in a hall to worship their allah. There's a photo of muhammad on the wall too.

Here's a video of moslems doing praise and worship songs to their allah, copying from Christians perhaps?

 

[Loofydralb]

Clearly you don't know much about your mohameddan religion. That's why you are constantly trying to change islam yet again to suit your current narrative.

If you acknowledge that your god doesn't even respond to your prayers, time to change your god.

Singing and dancing has long been used in islam to worship allah. Here's the same reminder, of moslems dancing in a hall to worship their allah. There's a photo of muhammad on the wall too.

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Every Muslim knows this isn't a Muslim practised. It's a cult that is outside of Islam. Islam guidance is only taken from Quran and the practised of the prophet.

Here's a video of moslems doing praise and worship songs to their allah, copying from Christians perhaps?

You clown cannot differentiate worship from entertainment. This is not inside a masjid nor is it worship unlike your church.

Anyway your pope has turned gay

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54627625

Pope Francis indicates support for same-sex civil unions

 

[JohnTan]

Every Muslim knows this isn't a Muslim practised. It's a cult that is outside of Islam.

Every moslem doesn't know? The people dancing in the video are clearly moslem.

Dancing in islam isn't a cult. The sufi dance was popular during the Ottoman time, and the Ottoman sultans were considered as the Pope of the islamic world for centuries. Again, you are distorting old islamic practices to suit your modern day intepretation of your islamic religion.

Of the numerous orders of Islam, Sufism is defined as the inner and mystical dimension. The Mevlevi Order was formed in 1312 in the Turkish city of Konya (formerly the capital of the Anatolian Seljuk Sultanate) by the followers of the 13th century Persian poet, Islamic theologian, and Sufi mystic Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rūmī (or Mevlânâ). Organized by Mevlânâ’s son, Sultan Walad, the order in Konya soon began to expand into other towns with appointed leaders, and in its heyday there were 114 tekke (monasteries) established throughout the Ottoman Empire, including ones in Belgrade, Athens, Cairo, Mecca, Baghdad, Damascus, and Tabriz.

https://theculturetrip.com/europe/turkey/articles/a-brief-history-of-the-whirling-dervish/

Islam guidance is only taken from Quran and the practised of the prophet.

Is this statement supported by any verses in the quran? Or is this some man-made teaching?

Your quran supported the use of the hadith as religious scripture? That would be quite weird, given that your moslem hadith came 250 years after the quran.

You clown cannot differentiate worship from entertainment. This is not inside a masjid nor is it worship unlike your church.

The men in the video would be very offended if you call their praises to allah as entertainment. They are clearly singing religious songs as a form of worship and piety towards their allah.

You really should learn more about your own islamic religion instead of thinking that you, or your religious teacher, define islam so exclusively.

Anyway your pope has turned gay

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54627625

Pope Francis indicates support for same-sex civil unions

The Pope is entitled to do as he pleases. Isn't that what you moslem claim for your "prophet" for doing shit like banging kids, having a dozen wives when islamic law says it's not allowed, or banditry or slave trafficking?

 

[syed putra]

Didn't you admit that you are a Hindu?

Which of your 330 million deities is correct then? if one of them fights, or challenges, another, then who wins?

I have blossomed above religion. I think you should too. When it first started, the arabs expansion out of arabia has nothing to do with religion. Religion was created after.

 

[JohnTan]

When it first started, the arabs expansion out of arabia has nothing to do with religion.

It has to do with imperialism and plunder. The moslem religion was made thereafter as a way to consolidate their gains and establish some legitimacy. Some even say that mahomet was invented later on as the moslem founder of the religion.

 

[mudhatter]

I know more about the sharia than you. Period.

You know more about how many times your arse has been penetrated by your priest and pastor, period.

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is not a prophet.

That is a contradiction.

He was the greatest, the last, final prophet of Allah (SWT).

Even by islamic sources, muhammad isn't the final messanger of his allah. The final revelation of islam is recognized universally by moslems as the hadith book, compiled over 250 years after the first versions of the quran.

Wrong, as usual.

According to all Islamic sources, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the final prophet. Hadiths even contradict themselves and contradict the Quran. Hadiths are not the words of God either. By no means are Hadiths reveleations from God.

As usual, as always, you are proven wrong.

The hard truth is that islam copied from Judaism and Christianity, borrowing the people from their religion and taking here and there from their religious text.

There is no hard truth in there.

You got your arse penetrated numerous times in your childhood and well into your adulthood, if we can call it that, by loads of ang moh kia priests and pastors, and have come to enjoy it, to praise it, to adore it.

Islam, of course, as the true religion is opposed to homosexuality and bestiality, the likes of which you have come to propagate.

Likewise, Jews suck the penises of young/little children as a religious ritual. Again, Muslims universally revile such a disgusting, sick practice and there is of course no such practice endorsed in Islam.

These should be enough evidence that there is no way Islam "copied" anything from Christianity or Judaism, which have both been corrupted along the way thanks to faggots of the likes of you.

On the other hand, the holy book/scripture Quran remains the only book of any kind in history that remains unaltered, unmodified, unedited, and the good news is that even if all kafir worldwide were to unite, and those kuffar that are yet to be born were to unite, they still can't manage to alter the Quran as promised in the Quran itself by Allah (SWT), that He (SWT) will protect it from corruption, modifications, alterations.

Zoroastrianism is also older than both Judaism and Christianity among monotheistic religions. You should enquire how much of judaism and christianity are copied from Zoroastrianism, and how much of those were made up along the way. There is no other explanation for why any religion would promote faggotry (like how many times were your arse penetrated by your pastors and priests?) or sucking children's penises as a religious ritual.

Sorry, nobody today or 5000 years ago, anywhere, would believe or would have believed these are true religions under any circumstances.

You might suffer from Stockholm syndrome, that need not be true for others.

I dispute that. Even in the Torah and the Bible, while Adam was the first human being, he was certainly not recognized as a prophet either both Judaism and Christianity.

Judaism and Christianity are distinct. No need to lump them together.

While Islam and Christianity recognize the virgin birth of Prophet Isa (PBUH), the Jews - malevolent as they always have been - ascribe his birth not to a miracle but to impermissible actions by his mother (Astaghfirullah)

Judaism or Christianity, unfortunately, does not have any intact, unmodified, unedited scripture left that has not been corrupted. Quite naturally, they spawned lots of versions of holy scriptures such as Tawrah or Injil.

The moslem religion was founded by an illiterate bandit. So he thought that every guy mentioned in the Bible must be a prophet.

FYI, even some important people in the Bible, like King David and King Solomon, were not considered as prophets.

False as usual.

Muslim, not Moslem.

Islam was "founded" by Allah SWT, who was/is not a human being but the Creator and Sustainor of the Universe.

As usual, you have proven yourselves to be a harebrained nitwit time and again, presenting falsehoods as truth.

A bacha bazi boy like you is a faggot. Did you enjoy getting sodomized daily by your imam?

I first learnt that term from that post of yours.

It tells us a lot about your fascination, intimacy, familiarity with getting penetrated up your arse.

There is no way my superficial knowledge of faggotry can match up with your extremely intricate familiarity, borne out of years of personal experience, in any way, shape or form.

You may start a thread detailing how frequently you have been buggered, which ang moh kia pastor or priest loved you the most, why you have come to love this experience despite being forced to do so, why this unnatural way attracts you the most, how pinkdot sg has allowed you to reveal your inner selves and how "shiok" you feel every time you get f@rked.

In that regard, I can't hold a candle to you.

 

[mudhatter]

I have blossomed above religion. I think you should too. When it first started, the arabs expansion out of arabia has nothing to do with religion. Religion was created after.

??

Are you not a Hindu who believed in some of their idols that is permissible under their form of polytheism?

What do you mean by Arab expansion?

To this day, 1400 years later, there are Arab christians by the tens of millions.

here you go, Zakir naik debating Arab christian.



The stupidity on display from the kuffar everywhere is mind boggling.

As if single digit IQ is sth worth celebrating.

 

[syed putra]

It has to do with imperialism and plunder. The moslem religion was made thereafter as a way to consolidate their gains and establish some legitimacy. Some even say that mahomet was invented later on as the moslem founder of the religion.

They were also invited to overthrow harsh Roman slavery and rule.

 

[syed putra]

??

Are you not a Hindu who believed in some of their idols that is permissible under their form of polytheism?

What do you mean by Arab expansion?

To this day, 1400 years later, there are Arab christians by the tens of millions.

here you go, Zakir naik debating Arab christian.



The stupidity on display from the kuffar everywhere is mind boggling.

As if single digit IQ is sth worth celebrating.

There is no need to hear debate about which religion is right or wrong.i have gone beyond that. Every individual can think for themselves wrong from right.
Arab expansion from arabia included jews and Christian in their ranks.
The arabs leaders after mahomet had nothing to do with religion. Anyone righteous can join in.hence cities sll over middle east, north africa invited them to oust harsh Roman rule.

 

[rodent2005]

Your friends maybe got the wrong idea.
God guides whomever He want. You seek guidance only from God. And not tbe quran or hadith.

Then Allah gave the hadith and quran for what if they are to be ignored as you say?

 

[JohnTan]

According to all Islamic sources, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the final prophet. Hadiths even contradict themselves and contradict the Quran. Hadiths are not the words of God either. By no means are Hadiths reveleations from God.

As usual, as always, you are proven wrong.

Wrong.

Mainstream moslem teachings that to be considered a real moslem, you need to believe in both the quran and the hadiths. Your quran-only kind of teaching is not mainstream, and it's considered heresy in most moslem circles.

Muslim, not Moslem.

Islam was "founded" by Allah SWT, who was/is not a human being but the Creator and Sustainor of the Universe.

It's moslem, before becoming 'muslim' in more recent times. For a bacha bazi faggot who masturbates on 'unadulterated' and 'unchanged', you seem to like changing the name of your religious terms when it suits your purpose.

islam was never founded by your 'allah'. It was supposedly recited by mahomet, and some scribes copied it down on parchment or animal skin. And there's only one prpohet in your mohameddan moslem religion, who was mahomet or mohamed, whatever the fuck you want to spell his name.

 

[mudhatter]

There is no need to hear debate about which religion is right or wrong.i have gone beyond that. Every individual can think for themselves wrong from right.
Arab expansion from arabia included jews and Christian in their ranks.
The arabs leaders after mahomet had nothing to do with religion. Anyone righteous can join in.hence cities sll over middle east, north africa invited them to oust harsh Roman rule.

Jews betrayed everyone involved including the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) multiple times

Jews of Banu Qurayza and other tribes betrayed the treaty they were party to. they got what they deserved.

Jews were treated so well for 1400 years under Muslim rule, yet it is Jews in occupied Palestine who treats Palestinians and Arabs with indignity and started an anti Islamic holy war starting in 2001 through their protege Yanks.

Had most Muslims including Iranians and Turks not been low IQ morons, of course, Muslims numbering more than a billion by now should have possessed, tested active, working ICBM and thermonuclear warheads by the thousands.

 

[mudhatter]

Wrong.

Mainstream moslem teachings that to be considered a real moslem, you need to believe in both the quran and the hadiths. Your quran-only kind of teaching is not mainstream, and it's considered heresy in most moslem circles.

You, a faggot chink christian who copied his ang moh kia masters because that's all he's good for, and likes to take it up the arse from your ang moh kia pastors and priests since they forced themselves upon you, now want to deny the obvious.

There is no such thing as "mainstream moslem teachings" as apart from "nonmainstream moslem teachings" since there is no such thing as "moslem" in the first place.

It's moslem, before becoming 'muslim' in more recent times. For a bacha bazi faggot who masturbates on 'unadulterated' and 'unchanged', you seem to like changing the name of your religious terms when it suits your purpose.

It's always been Muslim. Not even a chink slanty idiot kafir harebrained faggot like you should have made this mistake. For a chink who's always been wrong, you've never once failed to come up with concocted stories without any evidence or logically sound argument to back your faggotry.

islam was never founded by your 'allah'. It was supposedly recited by mahomet, and some scribes copied it down on parchment or animal skin. And there's only one prpohet in your mohameddan moslem religion, who was mahomet or mohamed, whatever the fuck you want to spell his name.

Islam is the only religion permissible in the view of Allah (SWT). It has nothing to do with any scribe and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was only the last/final messenger to receive the Revelations of Allah (SWT).

Muslims don't worship Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) or any other creation of God, rather Muslims worship God.

There have been in excess of 100,000 Prophets according to Islamic narrations.

As usual, you are wrong on every single count.

This maybe because you are a believer of a false religion.

Or maybe because you have become so accustomed to taking it up the arse that you no longer have any control over your thought process.

It may also be due to a combination of these two factors and other attendant factors (such as how deep and hard your ang moh pastors and priests deflowered your arse, and how frequently they do so each week).

Your stockholm syndrome is also hard to justify or put up with.

Why would you want to promote the same paedophile perversion that not just tolerates but actively advocates penetrating your tender arse at a tender age for sick, perverted pleasures of some ang moh kia pastors or priests?

 

[JohnTan]

There is no such thing as "mainstream moslem teachings" as apart from "nonmainstream moslem teachings" since there is no such thing as "moslem" in the first place.

Apparently, there is. Within sonni moslems, there are supposed to be 4 main schools of thought. For most sonnis, the moslem hadith is seen as scripture and thereby, a source of the islamic sharia.

moslems used to be called 'moslem' or 'mohameddans', until they updated their religion and wanted to be called 'muslim' in more recent times. That's weird, given how you were ranting about how 'unadulterated' your mohameddan religion is. Turns out, you would edit your own religion when it suits your purposes.

Islam is the only religion permissible in the view of Allah (SWT). It has nothing to do with any scribe and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was only the last/final messenger to receive the Revelations of Allah (SWT).

islam is the only religion where muhammad is the central figure. Abraham was never a moslem. He never accepted mahomet as prophet. Neither did he jihad and raid others for booty, like mahomet and his men did.

your islam has a lot to do with scribes because you epileptic 'prophet' was illiterate, and therefore, totally dependent on his scribes to record down his ramblings, which formed the quran. It was even narrated in the hadith scriptures that a scribe made improvements to the quran recitations, and mahomet approved it.

Muslims don't worship Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) or any other creation of God, rather Muslims worship God.

There have been in excess of 100,000 Prophets according to Islamic narrations.

moslems do worship mahomet. In the moslem shahadah, moslems pay allegiance to both allah and mahomet. There is no formal requirement for moslems to acknowledge any other prophet.

moslems also worship mahomet by threatening to kill others in mahomet's name. I never seen people who worship Tua Pei Kung try to kill others to defend Tua Pei Kung's honour.

This maybe because you are a believer of a false religion.

You're contradicting your own islamic religion. Your mahomet never said that. You're making shit up again, changing your islamic teachings as you go along.



• “Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light” (Surah 5:44a; 2:87).

• “And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil)” (Surah 5:46).

• “It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)” (Surah 3:3).