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Use Firefox 4 now! ;)

DO NOT USE FIREFOX 4. IT IS FULL OF BUGS WHICH HACKERS WILL HAVE A FIELD DAY.

THIS UNCLE IS NOT ON MY LIST OF REAL OPPOSITION. I DO NOT TRUST HIS RECOMMENDATIONS.
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At this moment as I am typing, I am booted up in Kubuntu and firefox 3.6.15 is what I am using right now.

For Firefox 3.6.4 and later version users experiencing slowness, they can download older version here
 
most softwares use old versions better.
new versions usually have many unnecessary add-ons which need heavier memory usage.

I'm using Firefox 3.0.1, not upgrading.
 
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LKy is lucky because SG opposition never grow up (yet), nothing to do with weather we are a Nation yet..;) but these oppositions are still in childish fantasy regarding being REAL Opposition.:( Obviously each & every one of such opposition thinks that he/she is the real opposition while have a own perspective to consider every other opposition who are not within this narrow perspective to be non-REAL opposition. Very childish like this.:p

Even in this latest video I tried to explain to people that within the Political Map which covers a very vast views and positions and scopes, where LKy LEEgime is a small perspective with very tight scope, cover only a tiny area in that Political Map. There are many oppositions located in widespread areas of this map, each at quite a distance apart, some closer to LKy's LEEgime's position, others very far away. Therefore fundamental differences exists between each opposition parties /groups.

It is then even more funny when many of these groups tried to differentiate from one another by misusing the word REAL, each calling themselves the REAL opposition while others not sharing the same position and located further to themselves on the Political Map are called NON-REAL opposition.:eek::D:D

There was a legend of 7 blind men each holding on to a different part of an elephant insisting that an elephant is only that particular part in their own hands. This illustrated the sad thing about missing the Overall Picture while looking at a very limited scope.

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There had been too many versions of REAL oppositions, being the ear the leg the tail etc of elephant. Pse stop that! Many years ago I had also differentiated in this overly simple way. I realized after I saw how late JBJ didn't see eye to eye with CSJ, and how JBJ was angry against LTK & how he commented about CST etc, all are just different parts of that elephant.:(:cool:

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Besides politics, I don't know how you can convince any body on IT, missing the fact that every version of every software went through their own beta stages full of bugs, before they eventually stabilized and released to market. I guess you are just simply implementing critical political attitude into IT! :) Finding faults against what you dislike instinctively just like you do politics?

It is always the case that firefox v 4.1 will be more bug-free than 4.0 and v 4.2 will be even more bug-free than 4.1 and so on. Beta and release candidates are known to be buggy prototypes as usual. This is rule of thumb in any IT / software. This is accepted by all users.
 
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most softwares use old versions better.
new versions usually have many unnecessary add-ons which need heavier memory usage.

I'm using Firefox 3.0.1, not upgrading.

Because newer is not always better. :D

LKy is lucky because SG opposition never grow up (yet), nothing to do with weather we are a Nation yet..;)

Oi... don't turn this into a political thread leh.
 
most softwares use old versions better.
new versions usually have many unnecessary add-ons which need heavier memory usage.

I'm using Firefox 3.0.1, not upgrading.

I am using multi OS. On Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), it contained two updates KB971033 and KB976932. There are rumors that this update creates a new process/service that will slow down your system and has been rumored to monitor the user. :D So it's either you don't install SP1 or install SP1 then remove KB971033 and KB976932. :eek:
 
most softwares use old versions better.
new versions usually have many unnecessary add-ons which need heavier memory usage.

I'm using Firefox 3.0.1, not upgrading.


This is quite true. I hope installations can let users opt what they wish to include / exclude, software makers tend to bundle too much things which they try hard to push but users don't really need. Although RAM is cheap already, today average about S$14.5/GB DDR3 @ nominal 4GB per DIMM @ S$58 Kingston. I hate big RAM eater programs because I use many Virtual Machines (VM) which I try to keep tiny RAM for speedy load / resume from HDD.

Some times Firefox just opening 3 tabs can eat 300+MB away, the smaller VMs can not cope and end up swapping disk and crawls!:mad:
 
So far I felt fast in it's speed. My downloads came in within short time although I am using a mobile 3G now which is only 7.2mpbs.

I have switched to 4.0 again to test now. Posting this msg using it. User interface is very similar with 3.6.15 without noticeable diff. My 3.6.15 had been slow in running the scripts, gave me problems until I was forced to open up error console (ctrl-shift-J) to check what a crap was going on. 4.0 so far never gave me this crap.

:)

BTW (ctrl-shift-J) right here on Sammyboy.Com exposed lots of Sam's CCS bugs:

Warning: Error in parsing value for 'top'. Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://sammyboy.com/css.php?styleid...ulletin-chrome.css,vbulletin-formcontrols.css,
Line: 118

Warning: Expected declaration but found '*'. Skipped to next declaration.
Source File: http://sammyboy.com/css.php?styleid...ulletin-chrome.css,vbulletin-formcontrols.css,
Line: 414

There are too many bugs here in Sam's CCS I only pasted 2.:p
 
See? What did I recommended! :)

I just saw google's breaking news that Firefox 4 beat MS IE9 by almost 3 timex more popularity! 7 vs 2.4 million downloads within 1st 24hrs.:eek:

Google news did not mentioned their own product Chrome.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20046114-264.html

Firefox 4 doubles IE9's 24-hour download tally

by Stephen Shankland

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Firefox 4 managed to double IE9's download total in less than 24 hours after its release.
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Firefox may be under fire from Microsoft's newly competitive browser, but with more than twice the downloads in its first day, Firefox 4 today soared over its rival by one measurement.
Microsoft, not without reason, boasted that IE9 was downloaded 2.35 million times in the first 24 hours after its release last week. And that is indeed a big number, especially for a browser that tech enthusiasts had scoffed at for years.
But less than 24 hours after its own launch, Firefox 4 cleared 4.7 million, according to the Mozilla Glow site that logs downloads.
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That's a lot less than the 8 million copies of Firefox 3 downloaded in that version's 24-hour debut in 2008, but that event was a heavily promoted "Download Day," and it should be noted that Firefox 4's full day hasn't finished yet.
And it does signal that at least a very sizable chunk of the Net-connected population is, in Firefox's apt phrase, choosing to "upgrade the Web." New browsers bring new Web standards, new performance, and often a new auto-update ethos that likely will lead to browsers staying continuously updated. That could simplify lives for Web developers who constantly wrangle with the difficulties of supporting old browsers.
Firefox 4 brings a raft of new features--new security and privacy options, faster loading and JavaScript, support for a variety of new standards including WebM video and WebGL 3D graphics, and 3D acceleration that extends even to Windows XP.
Mozilla expects that its arrival will lead to an increase in usage. The browser maker said it has 400 million Firefox users and counting, but as a percentage of worldwide browser use it has lost share to Chrome, which now accounts for more than 10 percent of usage worldwide.






http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/sci/2011-03/24/c_13795381.htm

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The number was almost triple the 2.4 million downloads that Microsoft reported in the first 24 hours after the Internet Explorer 9 (IE9) was released.
Nevertheless, the number lagged behind the record-breaking performance of Firefox 3, which was downloaded more than 8 million times in the first day after launch in mid-2008.
Statistics show that Firefox 4 has attracted interest from around the world, with 44 percent downloads in Europe, 26 percent in North America. and 20 percent in Asia.
Mozilla launched Firefox 4 on Tuesday at around 10:00 a.m. EDT to compete with Microsoft's IE9 and Google Chrome.
The new Web browser was originally scheduled to ship last November, but bugs delayed the release into early this year.
Firefox trumped IE9 in the first day download contest because it runs on Windows XP, the 10-year-old operating system that IE9 doesn't support.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12829113

Millions download latest Firefox browser

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Mozilla has been visualising the location of users as they download Firefox 4.
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More than five million people have downloaded the latest version of Firefox since its release a day ago.
Mozilla, which makes the number two web browser, has been keeping a real-time map showing where in the world users are installing the software.
Despite the rapid uptake, downloads have been slower for version 4 than its predecessor.
Over the past year, Firefox's market share has declined slightly in the face of competition from Google's Chrome.
Firefox 4 was made available for download less than a month after Microsoft launched Internet Explorer 9, the latest version of its market-leading browser.
Both pieces of software promise users a faster, more secure online experience.
Firefox, like its rival, now makes extensive use of HTML 5 - the newest standard for the hypertext language used to build websites.
Both browsers also feature hardware acceleration for displaying web pages - drawing on the power of a computer's graphics processor to improve the speed of complex visuals.
Declining share Within its first 24 hours, more than 5.5 million users had downloaded Firefox 4. However, that falls short of the 8 million who downloaded version 3 on its release day in 2008.
The lower figure may be explained by the widespread availability of pre-release versions of Firefox 4 in the months ahead of its launch.
Firefox has enjoyed rapid growth since it first appeared in 2004. At its peak, in 2009 it held a 24% market share, according to Netmarketshare.
However, by February 2011 its slice of the browser market had fallen to 21%.
At the same time, Google's Chrome browser has grown from 1% to 10%, according to the same figures.
Internet Explorer remains the dominant platform, although its fall has been the most precipitous - from 68% in March 2009 to 56% in February 2011.
Some analysts believe that Firefox could still secure a bigger piece of the increasingly fragmented market, especially among corporate users.
"Internet Explorer 9 is only for Windows Vista and 7. Two thirds of companies are still using Windows XP," said Ovum analyst Richard Edwards.
"If you want to make the most of the HTML 5 stuff that is out there then you have to go to IE9 and a Windows 7 upgrade or switch to Firefox.
"That may be a significant opportunity for Firefox," he said.


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By Todd Bishop
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Maybe it’s time for Microsoft’s Internet Explorer team to reconsider that whole Windows XP thing?
Firefox 4 clocked about 5 million downloads on its first day and is fast approaching 7 million this morning, as the new browser from Mozilla attracts huge interest from around the world.
That doesn’t match the record-breaking performance of Firefox 3, but it trounces the 2.35 million downloads that Microsoft reported in the first 24 hours after the Internet Explorer 9 release. (Msnbc.com is a Microsoft-NBC Universal joint venture.)
But keep in mind that Microsoft is voluntarily limiting its market, not only by making Internet Explorer exclusive to Windows but also by declining to make the new browser work on Windows XP. Even though Windows XP is nearly 10 years old at this point, more than 40 percent of Internet users are still clinging to it, putting IE9 at a disadvantage in the numbers game by not supporting XP.
Firefox, in contrast, continues to support Windows XP. Mozilla knew coming in that it would have a built-in advantage, based on Microsoft’s choice to support only the newer Windows Vista and 7.
“That’s a decision that they get to make, but it sure did surprise us, because the best metrics that we’ve got say 40 to 50 percent of the web is still on XP. That’s too big for us to just leave them behind,” said Johnathan Nightingale, the Firefox engineering director, in a recent interview.
Why no IE9 on XP? Microsoft’s reasoning is that browsers “should require the modern graphics and security infrastructure that have come along since 2001.” The company says in a statement that “Internet Explorer 9 is intended to be run on a modern operating system in order to build on the latest hardware and operating system innovations.”
Of course, it’s also in Microsoft’s business interest to get people to buy a new Windows version.
The latest browser market-share stats, from just before the release of the new browsers, put Internet Explorer at 56.8 percent, down from 68 percent two years ago. Firefox has held relatively steady over that period, but the big gainer has been Google Chrome, which rose up from practically nothing to now boast nearly 11 percent of the worldwide market.
 
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March 22, 2011 7:30 AM PDT
Firefox 4 launches into a tougher, faster world

by Seth Rosenblatt

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Three years ago, Firefox 3 set the record for most downloads in a 24-hour period, cracking 8 million and positioning itself as a viable alternative to Internet Explorer.
Firefox 4 released today to the public at large after 12 public betas, two release candidates, and nearly a year of development, faces a hugely different landscape. (Download Firefox 4 here for Windows, Mac, and Linux.) Microsoft's Internet Explorer remains the dominant browser. And in less than three years, a significant chunk of the browser market has taken a shine to relative newcomer Google Chrome.
Mozilla flips the switch from version 3.6.15 to version 4 as Firefox possesses more than 400 million active users. (Mozilla has opened a download tracker at glow.mozilla.org.) The new version of the browser sports several massive changes, including a radically redesigned interface, significantly faster browsing speeds, strong support for the still-in-development HTML5 and other "future-Web" tech, and competitive features like synchronization, restart-less add-ons, and tab grouping. You can read the official CNET reviews of Firefox 4 at the Download.com pages for Windows, Mac, and Linux.

Browser speed remains an important point of comparison. But as the five major browsers have developed over the past year, their speed differences have become more muddled. For example, Mozilla noted that when Firefox 3 was released, it took "60 milliseconds to change Gmail from showing one message to another with Firefox 3... compared with 413 milliseconds for IE 7 and 227 for Firefox 2."
Current browser benchmarks that look only at JavaScript place them all in the same ballpark now, so the point of comparison has begun to shift to graphics processing unit (GPU) hardware acceleration. This allows the browser to shove certain rendering tasks onto the computer's graphics card, freeing up CPU resources while making page rendering and animations load faster. These tasks include composition support, rendering support, and desktop compositing, and there are few benchmarks that are capable of testing it.
One interesting publicly available benchmark is the new JSGameBench from Facebook, which looks to test HTML5 in real-world gaming situations. The Firefox 4 beta was the fastest tested without WebGL and was the second fastest with it. Mozilla's own tests put Firefox 4 at three to six times faster than Firefox 3.6.
Mozilla remains a leader in developing the Web, and interestingly that role has led it to hold back on building out one of the more interesting minor features in Firefox 4. The new do-not-track feature supports a header on Web sites that tells sites and advertisers not to track you, so you don't see targeted ads as often. Internet Explorer also supports the header, and it includes robust, configurable support for blocking ad trackers; Firefox 4 relies on add-ons like AdBlock Plus to gain the list blocking.
Johnathan Nightingale, director of Firefox development at Mozilla, explained during a conversation last week at CNET's San Francisco office that Mozilla is more concerned with the larger problem of why ads were targeted in the first place.
Mozilla starts on Firefox 5 designs (screenshots)


"Beyond blocking the ad loads, which you can do with add-ons, this is a business-social trust situation between sites and users. We need people to vote with their feet, or at least want to have that conversation. We've spoken to a lot of advertisers. And by and large, they want to be good citizens here," Nightingale said. As a current solution, though, that makes users entirely dependent on advertiser behavior, which is likely to fall short of what people want.
Another security repair in Firefox 4 fixes a hole that affected all browsers until last summer--a vulnerability so old that it was mentioned in the documentation for CSS2 a decade ago. The exploit is a CSS sniffing history attack, in which malicious code can gain access to your browser history by manipulating link appearance and style. What made the bug so difficult to repair is that the simplest solution--to prevent all link style manipulation--would be like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, Nightingale had said in an interview at Black Hat 2010.
Nightingale also addressed other changes in Firefox 4 as providing the feature in question without playing fast and loose with a user's data. Firefox 4 removes the "lucky" automatic search results from the location bar's search functionality because Mozilla had "concerns about sending a lot of private data from the location bar to search engines. We will get there," he added, "but like with Sync we want to do it right."
Sync is another new feature in Firefox 4 and is possibly one of the best implementations of the feature across the competition. Not only can you synchronize your data across traditional PC versions of Firefox, but you also can sync your bookmarks, passwords, preferences, history, and tabs with your Android or Maemo-running phone or tablet. However, Sync debuted in 2008 as an add-on and had a notably rough beginning. Fortunately for user data, which it used to delete seemingly at will, Mozilla fixed the problems with it.
Along with the Android support, Sync gets two security features right. One is that Firefox encrypts your data before sending it over an encrypted connection to its servers, where it remains encrypted. Mozilla said it could not access the data even if somebody there wanted to. The second is that you have the option of setting up your own personal sync server. In an age in which private data stored by corporations gets hacked and stolen with shocking regularity, setting up a personal sync server is one way to ensure that you bear the responsibility for your own data. The only problem with the feature is that it doesn't yet support syncing add-ons, a factor that is at least partially tied to Firefox's nascent restart-less add-on network, also debuting in version 4.
Other big changes in Firefox 4 include a minimalist interface with a condensed menu button that closely resembles that of Opera 11 and Chrome 10; app tabs; tab groups for keeping tabs organized; an overhauled add-on manager that also supports restart-less add-ons; and expansive support for HTML5, CSS3, and the aforementioned hardware acceleration for Direct2D and Direct3D on Windows, OpenGL on Mac, and XRender on Linux.
One "future-Web" tech that Nightingale said probably won't come to Firefox before version 5 is support for WebSocket. "The specification had security problems, so we turned it off," he said. He added that users can enable it at will through the "websocket" options in about:config.
Although it took more than two and a half years for Firefox 4 to get here, expect that time to get axed like a tree in a rainforest for Firefox 5. Mozilla plans to put Firefox on an accelerated release schedule, much like Google has done with Chrome.
Check out CNET's full review of Firefox 4 for Windows, Mac, and Linux.
 
Err... how much is Mozilla paying you huh? :eek:
:):D I enjoy FOC use of Firefox browser for many years already, like many others. 好康到相报!Good Lobang Hurry Introduce to Samsters here OK ;):cool:

Inside chrome opera firefox etc there is a common core engine called gecko layout engine, which is contributed by the infamous but now dead browser pioneer Netscape. I miss their browsers of the old days. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko_(layout_engine)

Development of the layout engine now known as Gecko began at Netscape in 1997, following the company's purchase of DigitalStyle.
 
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:):D I enjoy FOC use of Firefox browser for many years already, like many others. 好康到相报!Good Lobang Hurry Introduce to Samsters here OK ;):cool:

Good lobang is Microsoft Office sell for $1 for 3-users leh. Haha....no Open Office or other bullshit hor.
 
I have not used IE for surfing for many many years. Only use it to compare with firefox and IE really cannot make it. :D
 
Good lobang is Microsoft Office sell for $1 for 3-users leh. Haha....no Open Office or other bullshit hor.


MS office is out long ago for me. :D Even the actual openoffice.org is now out.

Fedora is shipping Koffice standard and they did not make it easy for users to install openoffice.org either.
SuSE 11.4 shipped with so called libreoffice which is openoffice.org's source but branding away from openoffice.org

Why everyone is doing so?
We know that Oracle purchased Sun which made openoffice.org

I think it started changing it's license agreement while remaining open source. That means you can use it's source code, but you may not show any openoffice.org brand any more.

I suspect Oracle wants to charge fees sooner or later, they are defecto office suite king already.
:D
 
I have not used IE for surfing for many many years. Only use it to compare with firefox and IE really cannot make it. :D

Same here, I don't have any real MS Windoze installation any longer. IE I have no way to even compare. Multimedia / Video was the last thing I had depended on MS to do previously, no longer needed any more.

My video edit and conversion are all done in Linux now.

MS is a legacy already, I think in future it will also fade out from games market. May be to sell only keyboards and mouse that's all. :D
 
I am using multi OS. On Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), it contained two updates KB971033 and KB976932. There are rumors that this update creates a new process/service that will slow down your system and has been rumored to monitor the user. :D So it's either you don't install SP1 or install SP1 then remove KB971033 and KB976932. :eek:

The above is not a rumor. :eek:


The release of Windows 7 "Update for Microsoft Windows (KB971033)" will change the current activation and anti-piracy behavior of Windows 7 by triggering automatic "phone home" operations over the Internet to Microsoft servers, typically for now at intervals of around 90 days.

The purpose? To verify that you're not running a pirated copy of Windows, and to take various actions changing the behavior of your PC if the WAT system believes that you are not now properly authenticated and "genuine" -- even if up to that point in time it had been declaring you to be A-OK.

http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000681.html
 
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wtf?? use caps also kena banned :D
 
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