Chitchat The stationary flat Earth

ginfreely said:

I only know ships have radio besides satellite communications.

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"satellite" communications = very high-tech radio, disguised as "satellites" to brainwash us. :o

ginfreely said:

So the two minute video for this satellite launch is long enough.

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What if it exploded ten seconds after the end of that video?
Or simply flew back down later?

ginfreely said:

And the proof is in the pudding by using the signal received for communication services.

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ginfreely said:

there are so many satellites in existence already proven by the signals received.

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The signals are caused by:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_wave#Propagation
wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_propagation
especially:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionospheric_propagation

atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

"166) The “geostationary communications satellite” was first created by Freemason science-fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke and supposedly became science-fact just a decade later. Before this, radio, television, and navigation systems like LORAN and DECCA were already well-established and worked fine using only ground-based technologies. Nowadays huge fibre-optics cables connect the internet across oceans, gigantic cell towers triangulate GPS signals, and ionospheric propagation allows radio waves to be bounced all without the aid of the science-fiction best-seller known as “satellites.”"

flatearther said:

[video=youtube;W2jqtzCKKh8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2jqtzCKKh8[/video]

[video=youtube;pvV9zZktq28]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvV9zZktq28[/video]

[video=youtube;CCts6dtyhjw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCts6dtyhjw[/video]

The powers that be always mix lies with truth, in order to deceive as many people as possible into thinking that the lies are also truths, after gaining their trust by telling them much-easier-to-understand obvious truths and bribing them with sufficient security and material comforts.
Unfortunately, this kind of deception (or brainwashing/mind control) has been ongoing all over the world throughout the entire history of humanity in one form or another. :(

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ginfreely said:

Becos the existence of satellites in orbit is solid proof the earth is round and spinning. Not flat and stationary. That's why you have to insist satellites don't exist

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That's similar to what Ed Chigliak said almost exactly two days ago, and my response to you is still the same as my response to him:

flatearther said:

Ed Chigliak said:

Flatearther -

Why is the focus on satellites? This is probably due to the standard theory behind satt communication i.e. the satellite orbiting around a “globe” shaped earth. Debunk the theory of satellites and that opens the Pandora box of what actually the earth looks like (hence a point of argument for flat earthers).

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As shown in many other videos in this thread, even without the existence of satellites, most people already think the Earth is a globe.
And yet, there are still so many other proofs that the Earth is flat and stationary.

[video=youtube;CuvPAm9XIsY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuvPAm9XIsY[/video]

[video=youtube;h5i_iDyUTCg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5i_iDyUTCg[/video]

[video=youtube;j4-JWLjJcvs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4-JWLjJcvs[/video]

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Therefore, I don't have to insist satellites don't exist, in order to prove the Earth is flat and stationary.

You say:
"Becos the existence of satellites in orbit is solid proof the earth is round and spinning"
whereas I would say:
"The stationary flat Earth is solid proof (or at least one of the proofs) that satellites don't exist."

Good afternoon to all,

Good arguments from everyone.

My personal favourite, this one.

Is Ed Chigliak, EC11--?

Ed Chigliak said:

If Sammyboy forum existed couple of centuries ago and Isaac Newton (bless his soul) was a member, I doubt he would be remembered for studies into Laws of motion and Universal gravitation. He would probably be remembered for these inspiring words which Singaporeans so dearly hold to their hearts: "Guess what race, har?"

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And a thought.

If sphere earth theory is right, it motivated many discoveries. For example, satellites and gravity. Flat theory has bring about what sort of discoveries？Base purely on the theory of flat earth, what was invented or discovered?

hugs said:

If sphere earth theory is right, it motivated many discoveries. For example, satellites and gravity.

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There's no "if" because "sphere earth theory" is wrong, and it motivated imaginary fake discoveries.

hugs said:

Flat theory has bring about what sort of discoveries？Base purely on the theory of flat earth, what was invented or discovered?

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Everything else.

hugs said:

Base purely on the theory of flat earth, what was invented or discovered?

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Yo~! Momma! jokes:

Yo~! Momma's so fat yo waistline is called the equator~!

flatearther said:

Everything else.

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Go write your thesis and get it published.

Oh yeah haha lol. Should have thought that is what flat earth believer would say haha. You are simply a true blue believer of that theory. Unshakable haha

flatearther said:

There's no "if" because "sphere earth theory" is wrong, and it motivated imaginary fake discoveries.



Everything else.

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O.M.G

Did you just add to me while I added to you at the same time???

hugs said:

O.M.G

Did you just add to me while I added to you at the same time???

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Huh? I thought you upped me to reciprocate because I upped you first (one minute before you upped me).

Goosebumps..

Runaway..

Before voting!

No I did not. I was trying to figure out how to up. Cannot find the up button on the right upper side of your nickname. This is different from the other forum. I was at it for over 3 mins haha

How come you gain 2 points while I gain 1 point? Hmm..

Anyway give back the thread to discussion of theory:p

flatearther said:

Huh? I thought you upped me to reciprocate because I upped you first (one minute before you upped me).

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They discovered rocks under the flat earth disc.

hugs said:

And a thought.

If sphere earth theory is right, it motivated many discoveries. For example, satellites and gravity. Flat theory has bring about what sort of discoveries？Base purely on the theory of flat earth, what was invented or discovered?

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hugs said:

Oh yeah haha lol. Should have thought that is what flat earth believer would say haha. You are simply a true blue believer of that theory. Unshakable haha

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Actually, to be precise, I would say I'm a flat-Earth knower or simply flat-Earther; but not "believer", as I've explained before:

flatearther said:

Ed Chigliak said:

A man of your beliefs would at least make an effort to visit this institution of learnings and research, and get real time and visual information. Put your own beliefs and theories to a test. Challenge your beliefs.

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Once again, you are mistaking my convictions for "beliefs"; like I said to you before:

flatearther said:

Ed Chigliak said:

If you seriously belief in your convictions (which you have shown) and to reinforce your theory/assumptions, what better way than to get in touch with those people and understand their level of knowledge. You don’t even have to visit NASA. Put those NTU researchers to the test with your assumptions and get them to prove their theories to you. Hey…I am pretty sure, they will also show you real photos of their own satellites up in space (you don’t need to depend on NASA to provide you with “doctored” pics).

If you do not want to do that, hey…no problems too.

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Yes, I have zero desire to waste my time and energy hearing and seeing in person the same old lies (including "real photos of their own satellites up in space") and delusional "scientific" reasoning that I've heard and read and seen through the internet (including those in this thread ), therefore you are right that there should be no problems for both of us.

Also, my convictions (not "assumptions") are at a level (like a full glass of water) where there is no longer any need for any "reinforcement" (unlike when I first discovered last year that the Earth has always been flat).

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Convictions are not the same as beliefs/assumptions.
I do not "believe/assume" that one plus one equals two.
I am convinced (i.e. know for sure) that one plus one equals two.

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Oh sorry, I didn't see the differences at first.

So if the Earth is flat like a disc, inside the Earth there is oil, so if I dig deep enough, would I get through to the bottom of the flat Earth and would those oil leak off the other surface of the flat Earth and poluted the Universe? Flat Earth should start making new laws so people can go to jail for this, you know?

flatearther said:

Actually, to be precise, I would say I'm a flat-Earth knower or simply flat-Earther; but not "believer", as I've explained before:

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flatearther said:

Actually, to be precise, I would say I'm a flat-Earth knower or simply flat-Earther; but not "believer", as I've explained before:

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flat earth conspiracy is getting old...watch this space for the next bombastic conspiracy..

""Admiral Richard E. Byrd of the United States Navy flew to the North Pole in 1926 and over the South Pole in 1929. he referred to Antarctica as "The Land of Everlasting Mystery". In reference to the North Pole he wrote: "I'd like to see that land beyond the North Pole, it is the Center of the Great Unknown."

In his diary, Byrd allegedly tells of entering the hollow interior of the earth, along with others and traveling 17 miles over mountains, lakes, rivers, green vegetation, and animal life. He tells of seeing tremendous animals resembling the mammoths of antiquity moving through the brush. He eventually found cities and a thriving civilization. The external temperature was 74 degrees F.
His airplane was greeted by flying machines of a type he had never seen before. They escorted him to a safe landing area where he was graciously greeted by emissaries from Agartha. After resting, he and his crew, were taken to meet the king and queen of Agartha. They told him that he had been allowed to enter Agartha because of his high moral and ethical character. They went on to say that they worried about the safety of planet due to he bombs and other testing done above the surface by governments. After the visit Byrd and his crew were guided back to the surface of the planet.

Byrd stated that the North and South Poles are only two of many openings into the center of the Earth. He also wrote about seeing a sun below the Earth.""
http://www.crystalinks.com/hollowearth.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap2Kgglzeec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaPtq8F2hUc

WOW! Unicorn! Unicorn! Unicorn! Centaur! Centaur! Centaur!

longdongsilver said:

flat earth conspiracy is getting old...watch this space for the next bombastic conspiracy..

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PretenderSam said:

is this force of gravity the same everywhere on earth ?
if YES , then it is puzzling. The people , ocean and whatever are right way up at the northern part. At the southern part everything
is upside down. When things are upside down they tend to fall downwards. So don't you need to have a stronger gravity to pull
them back.

if NO , force of gravity is not the same at the north and south. This is equally puzzling too. It would be the case of you having
different weight if you measure it in england and in australia.

so what's your answer ?

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What talking you southern part of earth is upside down? Gravity is pulling one towards the centre of the earth, so everyone on earth is right way up and not upside down. It's all relative and from perspective of the person and position if you say others are upside down.

In the first place, what's the force that you say is causing those upside down people on the southern part of earth to fall down from earth into space below them? Gravity is pulling towards the centre of earth. What's the force that pull people into space? And if there's no such force to pull them away then why need extra gravity to pull them back to earth?

And if you say the southern part is upside down then what about the equator? They are lying down horizontal? So if your theory of people at southern part need stronger gravity to pull them back, then what about those at equator? Also need medium strong gravity to pull them back? But according to below link, gravity is stronger at north pole than equator. So this proves that your upside down theory is wrong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth

"The surface of the Earth is rotating, so it is not an inertial frame of reference. At latitudes nearer the Equator, the outward centrifugal force produced by Earth's rotation is larger than at polar latitudes. This counteracts the Earth's gravity to a small degree – up to a maximum of 0.3% at the Equator – and reduces the apparent downward acceleration of falling objects.

The second major reason for the difference in gravity at different latitudes is that the Earth's equatorial bulge (itself also caused by centrifugal force from rotation) causes objects at the Equator to be farther from the planet's centre than objects at the poles. Because the force due to gravitational attraction between two bodies (the Earth and the object being weighed) varies inversely with the square of the distance between them, an object at the Equator experiences a weaker gravitational pull than an object at the poles.

In combination, the equatorial bulge and the effects of the surface centrifugal force due to rotation mean that sea-level effective gravity increases from about 9.780 m/s2 at the Equator to about 9.832 m/s2 at the poles, so an object will weigh about 0.5% more at the poles than at the Equator."

hugs said:

So if the Earth is flat like a disc, inside the Earth there is oil, so if I dig deep enough, would I get through to the bottom of the flat Earth and would those oil leak off the other surface of the flat Earth and poluted the Universe?

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Once again, there is no "if" because it's not possible for humans to "dig deep enough", just like what I said to you about a week ago:

flatearther said:

hugs said:

flatearther said:

hugs said:

What is on the other side of the cylinder?

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I suspect that is one mystery that should remain a mystery.

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Then the theory of a flat Earth cannot be true when it has an unsolved mystery of what is at the bottom side. So sad. I was hoping my unicorn may someday be discovered there:(

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Since I don't know who you are in real life, may I say that your existence in real life "cannot be true", simply because there is an "unsolved mystery" of who exactly posted using your account?

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And even before that, I had already posted this:

flatearther said:

I'm afraid that is one mystery too deep (in two senses of the word) for me or any other human being to know. :o

But I suspect that the Earth (whether it is flat or global) is probably much deeper than any human can imagine:

[video=youtube;zz6v6OfoQvs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz6v6OfoQvs[/video]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole

The Kola Superdeep Borehole (Russian: Кольская сверхглубокая скважина, Kolskaya sverkhglubokaya skvazhina) is the result of a scientific drilling project of the Soviet Union in the Pechengsky District, on the Kola Peninsula, longitude and latitude coordinate: 69°23′46.39″N 30°36′31.20″E . The project attempted to drill as deep as possible into the Earth's crust. Drilling began on 24 May 1970 using the Uralmash-4E, and later the Uralmash-15000 series drilling rig. A number of boreholes were drilled by branching from a central hole. The deepest, SG-3, reached 12,262-metre-long (40,230 ft) in 1989 and still is the deepest artificial point on Earth.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_points_of_Earth#Lowest point (artificial)

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zhihau said:

Go write your thesis and get it published.

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There's no need for any long thesis, simply because the Earth has already been proven to be flat and stationary.
Therefore, every true invention and discovery has been invented and discovered on this stationary flat Earth.