Beware! China's 1st Aircraft Carrier is arriving in 2014!

[manokie]

Cheebye Chinese Communists used Hongkies to smuggle an auctioned carrier out of Ukraine, then they refit this carrier with their crappy technology!

In March 1998 the Aircraft Carrier was bought by the Chong Lot Tourist and Amusement Agency and in November 1998, Cheng Zhen Shu, chairman of Chong Lot Travel Agency, said that it would become a multi-functional entertainment centre, with 600 room hotel, casino, discotheque, restaurants and night-clubs, and called it Ocean Entertainment Centre.

Then they ship it to Dalian to refit it! Sneaky Chinese!


Carrier in 2010: Almost ready to fuck Vietnam!

 

[longbow]

Actually I don't see any advantage to secretly buying a carrier.

If the Russian were willing to sell it to commercial enterprise then there is no secret left. I am sure the Russians would know that any company would quickly sell it for a good margin over their purchase price.

As for Chinese carrier - please lah this is at best small ski jamp/ramp type carrier. But it will allow regional power projection however no match against a US carrier.

However, it is a good base to learn how carriers are built. No point relearning the wheel.

 

[eatshitndie]

the chinese naval airmen can take off on the small flight deck within a year, but may require a decade of trial and error before they can land on the same deck.

 

[GoFlyKiteNow]

Aircraft carriers will be sitting ducks soon enough. This is due to the array of smart precision long range missiles that are evolving. These stand off missiles can be launched from hundreds of miles away and can sink the costly aircraft carrier into scrap.

The Indian navy is also acquiring these soon to be useless ships , that are at best have sail past parade values during peace time operations.

 

[boundThunter]

Plenty of training excercises on this ponded carrier already.
But still water in a pond and open seas are another matter,

 

[KuanTi01]

What's the problem with China acquiring an aircraft carrier? It's already an open secret China is in the process of either refurbishing or building their own aircraft carriers. Don't sneer at the so-called scrappy technology unless u also sneer at Russian/French/American technology! And yes, someone said it right that there's no point in re-inventing the wheel when imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! India has its own aircraft carrier for many years, likewise Thailand's mothballed aircraft carrier and yet no one raise a whimper. The Chinese maybe communists but they are not capitalist idiots and they are no mere novice in the art of warfare.

USA has an obscenely large no. of aircraft carriers and not everyone is clapping. I understand there's more to come knowing how they love to name their aircraft carriers after their Presidents.

 

[Teo Kok Eng]

Then they ship it to Dalian to refit it! Sneaky Chinese!

So are the chinese refiting the aircraft carrier into a warship or entertainment ship for civilians

 

[ahleebabasingaporethief]

Hopefully more and more nations have aircraft carriers...China should have 20 more.

This is to check the BIGGEST BULLY in the world under disguise as protector of the modern world. Phooooey!
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[boundThunter]

China's quest for greatness and securing shipping lanes for its natural resources has resulted in a military build-up that puts it
directly in conflict with US.
There are many in America who fear the rise of China and what that will mean for US's standing in this world.

The decline of America and the rise of China is inevitable and this is something these two behemoths need to sit down and talk.
China already broke the Monroe's Doctrine and US is continuing to sell weapons to Taiwan in spite of China's disapproval.

Granted, the soldiers of China's old did held a mesmerised glaze towards the might of the Americans but how many of
the younger ones hold the American in awe ? Very few in fact, and this is what worries the American
because these youngish PLA officers actually spoiling for a fight.

 

[manokie]

So are the chinese refiting the aircraft carrier into a warship or entertainment ship for civilians

They bought it on the pretense that they were going to refit it into a casino ship but later changed their mind and refit it as a warship instead!

That's why the rest of the world don't trust them!

 

[ahleebabasingaporethief]

They bought it on the pretense that they were going to refit it into a casino ship but later changed their mind and refit it as a warship instead!

That's why the rest of the world don't trust them!

I think they are very smart.

So you trust the 2 countries that invaded IRAQ because they had "weapons of mass destruction" WHICH WERE NEVER FOUND?

Both countries were never taken to task because they are the BIGGEST BULLIES in this world today.

CHINA will check these 2 bullies very soon.
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[Ramseth]

At the outset of WW2, only 3 countries had serious aircraft carrier fleets, the US, Japan and Britain. With Germany blitzing across western Europe and North Africa, most British capital warships were withdrawn to North Atlantic and Mediterranean. The Pacific theatre was left to the US and Japan to fight it out, so far the only aircraft carrier-centric naval battle in history.

That Japan figured out how to build aircraft carriers and carrier-borne aircrafts so early was testimony to their powers, even in defeat. The success of US aircraft carriers inspired the next superpower USSR that its navy must have aircraft carriers to keep up with the US. France also built a couple after WW2 as status re-entry to power ranks.

Many countries (especially mid to big size, from Thailand to India, Argentina to Brazil) maintain at least one aircraft carrier in their navies. Well, more as status symbol and for national day parades, rather than for war. They usually got it reburbished from phased-off French, Russian or Ukranian carriers. Anyway, with a single-carrier fleet, which country they could possibly want to attack like the US do.

That said, China having a battle-ready carrier is certainly not good news for Taiwan and the US. The US Navy has to spend extra resources preventing the Chinese navy from looping over to and outflanking the Taiwanese eastside facing the Pacific.

Interestingly, the US and Britain had never seem to have been known to sell off old carriers; they scrapped or disarmed and decommissioned them as dockside museum tourist attractions. Except for once, I think Britain sold a carrier to Australia. But then, these are age-old allies and brothers, with Australia still wearing the Union Jack at the top corner of their flag.

 

[manokie]

I think they are very smart.

So you trust the 2 countries that invaded IRAQ because they had "weapons of mass destruction" WHICH WERE NEVER FOUND?

Both countries were never taken to task because they are the BIGGEST BULLIES in this world today.

CHINA will check these 2 bullies very soon.
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Hopefully they will but don't count too much on your gut feeling! They don't have a good track record internationally!

 

[halsey02]

When will Xing Jia Por, be buying one?

 

[manokie]

When will Xing Jia Por, be buying one?

When the Sinkie women get enlisted to help out in the aircraft carrier as comfort women!

 

[halsey02]

When the Sinkie women get enlisted to help out in the aircraft carrier as comfort women!

Rear end Admiral No porn lui, doesn't do porn...no aircraft carrier?

 

[Microsoft]

When will Xing Jia Por, be buying one?

Better not...i hate 2 ans question frm oversea friends y we hab a carrier by the name RSN Prataman...:(

 

[Ramseth]

I think they are very smart.

So you trust the 2 countries that invaded IRAQ because they had "weapons of mass destruction" WHICH WERE NEVER FOUND?

Both countries were never taken to task because they are the BIGGEST BULLIES in this world today.

CHINA will check these 2 bullies very soon.
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Actually, along with Russia and France, US and UK own most of the WMDs. Why nobody searched them for WMDs? Because they're well ahead in game and cartelised their domination of what it means to be a power.

China's late into the game, but made in just in nick of time for a UNSC permanent seat. Japan could build their own warplanes and air carriers by late 1930s. The US/UK assumption of global hegemony simply had to put them down at all costs. During the Korean War, China was saved from being nuked by the Soviet nuclear deterrent. That's a danger different from being wiped out since China was too big, too huge for the US to risk.

Late into the game as they might have been, if China play the game right, it can still and always remain untouchable regardless for US/UK power.

 

[kirby]

Actually, along with Russia and France, US and UK own most of the WMDs. Why nobody searched them for WMDs? Because they're well ahead in game and cartelised their domination of what it means to be a power.

China's late into the game, but made in just in nick of time for a UNSC permanent seat. Japan could build their own warplanes and air carriers by late 1930s. The US/UK assumption of global hegemony simply had to put them down at all costs. During the Korean War, China was saved from being nuked by the Soviet nuclear deterrent. That's a danger different from being wiped out since China was too big, too huge for the US to risk.

Late into the game as they might have been, if China play the game right, it can still and always remain untouchable regardless for US/UK power.

China might be a late comer in the game but her doctine on the usage of the nuclear arms is the most cohesive amongst the big boys. No first use, no threats against non nuclear states and a massive retaliation against the perpertrators.

Given the absence of explicit statements on the issue, Beijing's doctrine is largely determined by various constraints on China's use of nuclear weapons. China's nuclear doctrine can be broken into these elements:

Since 1964, China has adopted a universal no-first-use (NFU) pledge. (China applies NFU to Taiwan)

China provides non-nuclear weapon states with unconditional negative security assurances, i.e. China will not attack a non nuclear country with nuclear weapon.

China participates in several nuclear weapon free zone treaties in Latin America, the South Pacific, Southeast Asia, and Africa. These commitments prohibit China from deploying, using or threatening to use nuclear weapons in these regions.

China has pledged not to target its nuclear weapons against the US or Russia.

China urges the United States and Russia to make deep cuts in their nuclear forces and advocates the complete destruction of nuclear weapons.

China opposes the development and deployment of space-based weapons and missile defenses.

China has agreed to a moratorium on nuclear testing and has signed - but not ratified.


India and Pakistan are the ones to watch in the next round of nuclear brinkmanship.
Meanwhile... Israel lurks menacingly in the shadows of Armageddon.

 

[manokie]

China might be a late comer in the game but her doctine on the usage of the nuclear arms is the most cohesive amongst the big boys. No first use, no threats against non nuclear states and a massive retaliation against the perpertrators.

Given the absence of explicit statements on the issue, Beijing's doctrine is largely determined by various constraints on China's use of nuclear weapons. China's nuclear doctrine can be broken into these elements:

Since 1964, China has adopted a universal no-first-use (NFU) pledge. (China applies NFU to Taiwan)

I doubt she has a choice. If she does not use NFU, no one will believe her peaceful rise. Also, she might change her mind in the future. How can you be sure they won't?