Why we need so many 2nd Ministers ?

[bobby]

Josephine Teo is the Minister for Manpower but also Second Minister for Home Affairs.

Indranee Rajah is the Minister in the Prime Minister's Office. She is also Second Minister for Finance, and Second Minister for National Development.

MOHAMAD Osman is Minister in the Prime Minister Office. He is also Second Minister for Foreign Affairs & Second Minister for Education.

In addition we have so many Ministers of State for these portfolios and all chobolan.

Makes you wonder if all these Second Ministers get a second salary and esp Sham who is the Minister for Law & Home Affairs get 2 salaries too??!!

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[firehyrant]

get double pay. jin song lor

 

[eatshitndie]

a way to make up for the shortfall of ministarial salaries during xi virus scourge.

 

[nabeifuckpap]

Some MOE schools need 2 vice principals fucking waste of taxpayers money fire them best solution

 

[steffychun]

PAP 2.0

 

[batman1]

Some also appointed mayors paid about $600K pa doing same job as others or overlapping of duties.But tben they argue the people voted for me,lan lan what u going to do ???

 

[millim6868]

More appoi tent can get more money, so simple,only sinkies serves national with fucking meagre pay for transport n few dollars extra per say for misc, MP serves nation must hv very high pay for cars ,bungalows, orchard condos etc,so must understand,lol

 

[bobby]

In terms of salary, numbers of MPs, Ministers & supporting 2nd and Ministers of State per citizens….we must be the world’s number 1 again.

WTF we need so many fuckers in the PMO esp with fuckers like stroke Heng who announce he cannot tahan but still getting paid for chobolan everyday?

 

[laksaboy]

Another key trait of the Useless Son's reign in more recent years: plenty of 'coordinating ministers'.

It's indicative of a govt that is neither limited (scope, power) nor small (size, expenditure).

Only a small and limited govt is your assurance of liberty, prosperity and security.

 

[shiokalingam]

According to ChatGPT
these are the some of the reasons :

In the Singapore political system, ministers may sometimes hold appointments in more than one ministry for various reasons. Some valid reasons for this arrangement include:

1. Efficiency and resource optimization: Given the limited pool of talent in a small country like Singapore, appointing a minister to oversee multiple ministries can help optimize resources and ensure efficient governance. This allows ministers to leverage their expertise across different areas of policy-making and administration.
2. Interconnected policy domains: Some ministries may have overlapping responsibilities or interconnected policy domains. Appointing a single minister to oversee these related ministries can facilitate coordination and coherence in policymaking, ensuring that government initiatives align with broader strategic goals.
3. Portfolio restructuring: Government restructuring or changes in ministerial portfolios may necessitate the consolidation of ministries under a single minister. This could be driven by evolving priorities, administrative considerations, or the need to streamline operations.
4. Ministerial expertise and experience: In cases where a minister possesses specialized knowledge or extensive experience relevant to multiple ministries, appointing them to oversee these portfolios can enhance decision-making and implementation effectiveness. This allows the government to benefit from the expertise of experienced leaders in key policy areas.
5. Temporary or transitional arrangements: Ministerial appointments may sometimes be made on a temporary or transitional basis, especially during periods of political transition or when addressing specific challenges or crises. In such situations, appointing a minister to handle multiple portfolios temporarily may be pragmatic to ensure continuity and stability in governance.

It's important to note that while appointing a minister to hold multiple portfolios can offer certain advantages, it also raises considerations regarding workload management, potential conflicts of interest, and the need for effective delegation and oversight mechanisms to ensure accountability and transparency in governance.

 

[eatshitndie]

may appoint 3rd ministars eventually as sinkie political “talent” is shrinking. imagine the combined pay scale. all ministars can afford $69m gcbs. huat ah!

 

[shiokalingam]

Josephine Teo is the Minister for Manpower but also Second Minister for Home Affairs.

Indranee Rajah is the Minister in the Prime Minister's Office. She is also Second Minister for Finance, and Second Minister for National Development.

MOHAMAD Osman is Minister in the Prime Minister Office. He is also Second Minister for Foreign Affairs & Second Minister for Education.

In addition we have so many Ministers of State for these portfolios and all chobolan.

Makes you wonder if all these Second Ministers get a second salary and esp Sham who is the Minister for Law & Home Affairs get 2 salaries too??!!

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A quick check with ChatGPT
indeed shows the following :


Yes, in Singapore, a Minister who holds or helms a second ministry would typically receive salaries for both ministries they oversee. This is because each ministry is considered a distinct portfolio with its own set of responsibilities and workload. Therefore, if a Minister is appointed to lead two ministries concurrently, they would be entitled to receive salaries for both roles.

Additionally, as Members of Parliament (MPs), Ministers are also expected to fulfill their parliamentary duties, which involve representing their constituents, participating in parliamentary debates, and scrutinizing legislation. While MPs receive a separate parliamentary allowance for their duties as legislators, Ministers who are also MPs would receive both their ministerial salaries and parliamentary allowances.

It's worth noting that ministerial salaries in Singapore are determined by an independent committee, the Committee to Review Ministerial Salaries, which considers various factors such as economic performance, national competitiveness, and individual performance when recommending salary levels for political officeholders, including Ministers.

 

[bobby]

may appoint 3rd ministars eventually as sinkie political “talent” is shrinking. imagine the combined pay scale. all ministars can afford $69m gcbs. huat ah!

We should start with a 2nd President as our botak kekling is rather busy with WEF.

 

[bobby]

A quick check with ChatGPT
indeed shows the following :


Yes, in Singapore, a Minister who holds or helms a second ministry would typically receive salaries for both ministries they oversee. This is because each ministry is considered a distinct portfolio with its own set of responsibilities and workload. Therefore, if a Minister is appointed to lead two ministries concurrently, they would be entitled to receive salaries for both roles.

Additionally, as Members of Parliament (MPs), Ministers are also expected to fulfill their parliamentary duties, which involve representing their constituents, participating in parliamentary debates, and scrutinizing legislation. While MPs receive a separate parliamentary allowance for their duties as legislators, Ministers who are also MPs would receive both their ministerial salaries and parliamentary allowances.

It's worth noting that ministerial salaries in Singapore are determined by an independent committee, the Committee to Review Ministerial Salaries, which considers various factors such as economic performance, national competitiveness, and individual performance when recommending salary levels for political officeholders, including Ministers.

No wonder Sham can afford to live in Ridout

 

[face the facts]

thread title should be why we need so many chobolan ministers in the first place

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

including Chee H T , Transport & Finance , total 7 got 2 ministries.

the list is not so many though,

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

may appoint 3rd ministars eventually as sinkie political “talent” is shrinking. imagine the combined pay scale. all ministars can afford $69m gcbs. huat ah!

Tiagong , Malaysia 's Cabinet Ministers at 31 vs SG 21...

 

[Papsmearer]

Josephine Teo is the Minister for Manpower but also Second Minister for Home Affairs.

Indranee Rajah is the Minister in the Prime Minister's Office. She is also Second Minister for Finance, and Second Minister for National Development.

MOHAMAD Osman is Minister in the Prime Minister Office. He is also Second Minister for Foreign Affairs & Second Minister for Education.

In addition we have so many Ministers of State for these portfolios and all chobolan.

Makes you wonder if all these Second Ministers get a second salary and esp Sham who is the Minister for Law & Home Affairs get 2 salaries too??!!

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SO that they can collect more salary mah

 

[laksaboy]

Tiagong , Malaysia 's Cabinet Ministers at 31 vs SG 21...

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Theirs is a much bigger country. Consider the size of the snot-sized island shithole. We win per capita. No contest.

 

[steffychun]

including Chee H T , Transport & Finance , total 7 got 2 ministries.

the list is not so many though,

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Iswaran still there?