PAPsmearer reveals SAF new Hunter AFV is so bad, even Aussies refuse to consider it

[Papsmearer]

What a joke. SAF's new Hunter AFV, rolled out with much fanfare this year, and touted as the most modern, bestest IFV/AFV replacement for M113, with all the latest bells and whistles is a No Run in the Australian Army M113 replacement competition. The Aussies recognize this Hunter for what it is, a useless piece of shit hunk of metal in the battlefield. Among the contestants that the Aussie Army evaluated were the CV190 from Sweden, the US General Dynamics land system Ajax AFV, and the 2 finalist Rheinmetall and hanwha. The Aussies have a history of rational AFV acquisition when in recent years, they chose the US M1 Abrams as their MBT over the much cheaper and more popular used Leopard 2 that other countries ordered. The Leo 2 is now shown to be a vulnerable tank under the Turkish Army when used in Syria. Notice the Aussies did not evaluate the Hunter, even though we are defence partners with them, and even though we spend hundreds of millions in their country with RSAF training bases, and Shoalwater facilities for our Exercise mathilda. We contribute tremendously to their economy, and still, the Aussies still never give face and check out the Hunter. This crap must be really a death trap in combat. Only the SAF, MINDEATH, and the PAP will toot the horn of this AFV as the bestest in the world, while sinkie sons will be BBQed in it when the fighting gets real.





Rheinmetall and Hanwha shortlisted for Australian IFV requirement

Julian Kerr, Sydney - Jane's Defence Weekly

The Lynx KF41 IFV, pictured at Eurosatory 2018, is one of the two shortlisted contenders for Australia’s Project Land 400 Phase 3. Source: IHS Markit/Patrick Allen





Rheinmetall Defence's Lynx KF41 infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) and Hanwha Defense's AS21 Redback IFV have been selected to compete for the AUD10-15 billion (USD6.9-10.3 billion) project to provide the Australian Army with up to 450 modern IFVs and 17 manoeuvre support vehicles.
Announcing the shortlist on 16 September, Australia's Minister for Defence, Linda Reynolds, said Project Land 400 Phase 3 is expected to provide the army with a world-class capability that would ensure new levels of protection, firepower, mobility, and enhanced communications.
"When fully developed the Land 400 programme will allow [the] army to successfully sustain mounted close combat operations against emerging and future threats as part of an integrated Australian Defence Force," said Reynolds.
The selected IFV will replace obsolescent M113AS4 armoured personnel carriers, which, although upgraded in recent years, date from the mid-1960s.
The German and South Korean contenders defeated proposals by General Dynamics Land Systems, which pitched its AJAX armoured fighting vehicle, and BAE Systems Hägglunds, which proposed its CV90 IFV, in a request for tender (RFT) that closed in March 2019. All four vehicles are tracked.
The RFT listed only three essential requirements. These were the platform's ability to carry six dismounts, the ability to be strategically deployed by the Royal Australian Navy's (RAN's) two Canberra-class Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) amphibious ships, and the ability to be carried by Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) C-17A Globemaster III strategic airlifters.
The RFT stated that a key part of potential cost efficiency could be commonality with Project Land 400 Phase 2, under which Rheinmetall Defence was contracted in August 2018 to supply the Australian Army with 211 Boxer 8×8 armoured vehicles.

 

[laksaboy]

As long as it's good enough for the annual propaganda show, who cares?

 

[Papsmearer]

As long as it's good enough for the annual propaganda show, who cares?

Pretty much that is all its good for. They build that crap to keep many many DSTA, SAF, ST, and MINDEATH leeches employed.

 

[hofmann]

The RFT stated that a key part of potential cost efficiency could be commonality with Project Land 400 Phase 2, under which Rheinmetall Defence was contracted in August 2018 to supply the Australian Army with 211 Boxer 8×8 armoured vehicles.

Perhaps we lost out due to our terrax not being selected for the Aug 2018 supply contract for 8x8 AVs after their 2016 holiday in Hong Kong, and so subsequently our Hunters wouldn't have the cost efficiency they seek.

All that engineering talent stuck at ST making toys for the SAF. They should loan out the engineers to the private sector and recall them when needed.

 

[Papsmearer]

Perhaps we lost out due to our terrax not being selected for the Aug 2018 supply contract for 8x8 AVs after their 2016 holiday in Hong Kong, and so subsequently our Hunters wouldn't have the cost efficiency they seek.

All that engineering talent stuck at ST making toys for the SAF. They should loan out the engineers to the private sector and recall them when needed.

Terrex was actually entered in the competition for the Australian contract under the name Sentinel 2, that was won by the Boxer. This is a big cover up at ST. ST modified the standard Terrex to meet the Aussie requirement, like they modified it for the USMC competition. But the fucking thing bloated up to a weight of 35 tons from the standard 25 ton Terrex. It couldn't swim at all, which was a required criteria for the Aussies. Who would build a fucking AFV so fat that it lost its original bouyancy and amphibious capability? Oh wait, the answer to that would be ST!! The Boxer won the contract not only because it met all the Aussie army requirements, but also because Rheinmetall agree to set up assembly line in Australia to build the Boxers. The first 25 Boxers were build in germany and the aussie workers were trained there and the rest of the 211 build was build in Australia.

This is how a smart country develops a modern armour vehicle industrial capability. They let another country come in and set up and train the workers for them, and have them build a proven product. They don't waste tens of millions of $ on R & D. That is done by another country. Nor do they try to develop an unproven vehicle and try to sell it to other countries. this is a business that ST just cannot get into because they have no track record of any of their vehicles being used in battle. For a country with limited engineering talent, we should have done the same thing. After all, they bought 135 Terrex from ST, another country would have agreed to set up an assembly plant here for that number, and we would not have to use our engineers on R & D

 

[mojito]

This would not have happened if madam ho was not busy managing our reserves.

 

[A Singaporean]

Don’t worry. We have a lot of maids. They are betterer than SAF.

 

[Leckmichamarsch]

Pretty much that is all its good for. They build that crap to keep many many DSTA, SAF, ST, and MINDEATH leeches employed.

Did it hv Dr R Cock's handprint b4 he scooyed ofg to ASS M RT?

 

[hofmann]

Terrex was actually entered in the competition for the Australian contract under the name Sentinel 2, that was won by the Boxer. This is a big cover up at ST. ST modified the standard Terrex to meet the Aussie requirement, like they modified it for the USMC competition. But the fucking thing bloated up to a weight of 35 tons from the standard 25 ton Terrex. It couldn't swim at all, which was a required criteria for the Aussies. Who would build a fucking AFV so fat that it lost its original bouyancy and amphibious capability? Oh wait, the answer to that would be ST!! The Boxer won the contract not only because it met all the Aussie army requirements, but also because Rheinmetall agree to set up assembly line in Australia to build the Boxers. The first 25 Boxers were build in germany and the aussie workers were trained there and the rest of the 211 build was build in Australia.

This is how a smart country develops a modern armour vehicle industrial capability. They let another country come in and set up and train the workers for them, and have them build a proven product. They don't waste tens of millions of $ on R & D. That is done by another country. Nor do they try to develop an unproven vehicle and try to sell it to other countries. this is a business that ST just cannot get into because they have no track record of any of their vehicles being used in battle. For a country with limited engineering talent, we should have done the same thing. After all, they bought 135 Terrex from ST, another country would have agreed to set up an assembly plant here for that number, and we would not have to use our engineers on R & D

On Wikipedia, the entry on terrax gives off the impression also that the Turkish army has used the terrax. It was only after more digging that I discovered it never went beyond the prototype stage.

Shame!

 

[laksaboy]

On Wikipedia, the entry on terrax gives off the impression also that the Turkish army has used the terrax. It was only after more digging that I discovered it never went beyond the prototype stage.

Shame!

Wikipedia can be easily edited by any fuckwit, especially by those with an intention to disseminate propaganda on certain topics.

 

[steffychun]

Loser @Papsmearer Hunter was never going to chosen at all. Top three was Ajax, Lynx and this South Korean Redback. Aussies screwed Brexit more by dumping the Ajax.

 

[Papsmearer]

On Wikipedia, the entry on terrax gives off the impression also that the Turkish army has used the terrax. It was only after more digging that I discovered it never went beyond the prototype stage.

Shame!

U know its bullshit when you don't hear about it in the prostitute press. Such a deal with the Turks would have been trumpeted to high heavens here by the prostitutes of braddell street.

 

[Papsmearer]

Loser @Papsmearer Hunter was never going to chosen at all. Top three was Ajax, Lynx and this South Korean Redback. Aussies screwed Brexit more by dumping the Ajax.

Stuffycunt. I see you have change your title. From WP is the best party, now u add maybe? hahahahaha. Are they best or not?Don't say maybe. U finally realized the truth after all the facts I showed? Dumb cunt.

 

[steffychun]

Go screw your lover Hsien Yang @Papsmearer

 

[rushifa666]

Wikipedia can be easily edited by any fuckwit, especially by those with an intention to disseminate propaganda on certain topics.

No, the editors will revert. The problem is manpower.

 

[steffychun]

What a joke. SAF's new Hunter AFV, rolled out with much fanfare this year, and touted as the most modern, bestest IFV/AFV replacement for M113, with all the latest bells and whistles is a No Run in the Australian Army M113 replacement competition. The Aussies recognize this Hunter for what it is, a useless piece of shit hunk of metal in the battlefield. Among the contestants that the Aussie Army evaluated were the CV190 from Sweden, the US General Dynamics land system Ajax AFV, and the 2 finalist Rheinmetall and hanwha. The Aussies have a history of rational AFV acquisition when in recent years, they chose the US M1 Abrams as their MBT over the much cheaper and more popular used Leopard 2 that other countries ordered. The Leo 2 is now shown to be a vulnerable tank under the Turkish Army when used in Syria. Notice the Aussies did not evaluate the Hunter, even though we are defence partners with them, and even though we spend hundreds of millions in their country with RSAF training bases, and Shoalwater facilities for our Exercise mathilda. We contribute tremendously to their economy, and still, the Aussies still never give face and check out the Hunter. This crap must be really a death trap in combat. Only the SAF, MINDEATH, and the PAP will toot the horn of this AFV as the bestest in the world, while sinkie sons will be BBQed in it when the fighting gets real.





Rheinmetall and Hanwha shortlisted for Australian IFV requirement

Julian Kerr, Sydney - Jane's Defence Weekly

The Lynx KF41 IFV, pictured at Eurosatory 2018, is one of the two shortlisted contenders for Australia’s Project Land 400 Phase 3. Source: IHS Markit/Patrick Allen





Rheinmetall Defence's Lynx KF41 infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) and Hanwha Defense's AS21 Redback IFV have been selected to compete for the AUD10-15 billion (USD6.9-10.3 billion) project to provide the Australian Army with up to 450 modern IFVs and 17 manoeuvre support vehicles.
Announcing the shortlist on 16 September, Australia's Minister for Defence, Linda Reynolds, said Project Land 400 Phase 3 is expected to provide the army with a world-class capability that would ensure new levels of protection, firepower, mobility, and enhanced communications.
"When fully developed the Land 400 programme will allow [the] army to successfully sustain mounted close combat operations against emerging and future threats as part of an integrated Australian Defence Force," said Reynolds.
The selected IFV will replace obsolescent M113AS4 armoured personnel carriers, which, although upgraded in recent years, date from the mid-1960s.
The German and South Korean contenders defeated proposals by General Dynamics Land Systems, which pitched its AJAX armoured fighting vehicle, and BAE Systems Hägglunds, which proposed its CV90 IFV, in a request for tender (RFT) that closed in March 2019. All four vehicles are tracked.
The RFT listed only three essential requirements. These were the platform's ability to carry six dismounts, the ability to be strategically deployed by the Royal Australian Navy's (RAN's) two Canberra-class Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) amphibious ships, and the ability to be carried by Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) C-17A Globemaster III strategic airlifters.
The RFT stated that a key part of potential cost efficiency could be commonality with Project Land 400 Phase 2, under which Rheinmetall Defence was contracted in August 2018 to supply the Australian Army with 211 Boxer 8×8 armoured vehicles.

Fuck the Brits! Nazi Germany to build up Australia!

 

[tanwahtiu]

6 States in Aussies cannot even see eye to eye with each other.... talk about defense lagi tio kelong better surrender to enemy in the first shot fired at them....

 

[k1976]

What a joke. SAF's new Hunter AFV, rolled out with much fanfare this year, and touted as the most modern, bestest IFV/AFV replacement for M113, with all the latest bells and whistles is a No Run in the Australian Army M113 replacement competition. The Aussies recognize this Hunter for what it is, a useless piece of shit hunk of metal in the battlefield. Among the contestants that the Aussie Army evaluated were the CV190 from Sweden, the US General Dynamics land system Ajax AFV, and the 2 finalist Rheinmetall and hanwha. The Aussies have a history of rational AFV acquisition when in recent years, they chose the US M1 Abrams as their MBT over the much cheaper and more popular used Leopard 2 that other countries ordered. The Leo 2 is now shown to be a vulnerable tank under the Turkish Army when used in Syria. Notice the Aussies did not evaluate the Hunter, even though we are defence partners with them, and even though we spend hundreds of millions in their country with RSAF training bases, and Shoalwater facilities for our Exercise mathilda. We contribute tremendously to their economy, and still, the Aussies still never give face and check out the Hunter. This crap must be really a death trap in combat. Only the SAF, MINDEATH, and the PAP will toot the horn of this AFV as the bestest in the world, while sinkie sons will be BBQed in it when the fighting gets real.





Rheinmetall and Hanwha shortlisted for Australian IFV requirement

Julian Kerr, Sydney - Jane's Defence Weekly

The Lynx KF41 IFV, pictured at Eurosatory 2018, is one of the two shortlisted contenders for Australia’s Project Land 400 Phase 3. Source: IHS Markit/Patrick Allen





Rheinmetall Defence's Lynx KF41 infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) and Hanwha Defense's AS21 Redback IFV have been selected to compete for the AUD10-15 billion (USD6.9-10.3 billion) project to provide the Australian Army with up to 450 modern IFVs and 17 manoeuvre support vehicles.
Announcing the shortlist on 16 September, Australia's Minister for Defence, Linda Reynolds, said Project Land 400 Phase 3 is expected to provide the army with a world-class capability that would ensure new levels of protection, firepower, mobility, and enhanced communications.
"When fully developed the Land 400 programme will allow [the] army to successfully sustain mounted close combat operations against emerging and future threats as part of an integrated Australian Defence Force," said Reynolds.
The selected IFV will replace obsolescent M113AS4 armoured personnel carriers, which, although upgraded in recent years, date from the mid-1960s.
The German and South Korean contenders defeated proposals by General Dynamics Land Systems, which pitched its AJAX armoured fighting vehicle, and BAE Systems Hägglunds, which proposed its CV90 IFV, in a request for tender (RFT) that closed in March 2019. All four vehicles are tracked.
The RFT listed only three essential requirements. These were the platform's ability to carry six dismounts, the ability to be strategically deployed by the Royal Australian Navy's (RAN's) two Canberra-class Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) amphibious ships, and the ability to be carried by Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) C-17A Globemaster III strategic airlifters.
The RFT stated that a key part of potential cost efficiency could be commonality with Project Land 400 Phase 2, under which Rheinmetall Defence was contracted in August 2018 to supply the Australian Army with 211 Boxer 8×8 armoured vehicles.

Meaning our Hunter is makan for lunch by AMDK KF41?

 

[k1976]

Prominent German defense firm Rheinmetall is offering Ukraine its new Panther Kf51 tank.

The KF51 would leapfrog the other older Western-made tanks that are being sent to Ukraine.

While the KF51 has advanced capabilities, its newness may create more headaches for the Ukrainians

 

[k1976]

Why ST to give some free Hunter to help the defence of democratic Ukriane?