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LKY - Is He National Hero?

Re: Evil Sides Of Hakka Lawyer

What do you mean by that ? The Jap's translator on one side and an English puppet on the other side ?

No... no... no...

Many see LBS as hero, and some see him as English puppet.
Think... from Japanese and their interpreters/ translators point of view in that time, he was a traitor.
He stayed by English side, while Asia was being liberated by Japanese.
 
To set the record straight.How can a Japanese Collaborator/Translator/Interpreter be a national hero ?
Yes,Lim Bo Seng was our national hero,a patriot to our nation in those turbulent times.
LKY is just an opportunistic freeloader who would not hesitate to sell out and stab his comrades in the back to ensure his unchallenged rise in his political aspirations.He is not even a democratic socialist as he don't know how to debate,he is in reality a cunning dictator,a wolf in sheep's clothing.Please DO NOT group LKY with LBS and stigmatised the good name of LBS.

I think LKY stayed for so long, and he become overdue.
You know most brilliant leaders failed when they stayed on power for too long.

If LKY stepped out clean in 1980 time, he might be considered...
And, he should also make all his PAP office holders to declare assets after he stepped down.
Can imagine how heavily the Sinkie populace would thank him...
 
To set the record straight.How can a Japanese Collaborator/Translator/Interpreter be a national hero ?
Yes,Lim Bo Seng was our national hero,a patriot to our nation in those turbulent times.
LKY is just an opportunistic freeloader who would not hesitate to sell out and stab his comrades in the back to ensure his unchallenged rise in his political aspirations.He is not even a democratic socialist as he don't know how to debate,he is in reality a cunning dictator,a wolf in sheep's clothing.Please DO NOT group LKY with LBS and stigmatised the good name of LBS.


The only time I mention LKY and Lim Bo Seng in the same breath is to ask for effigy of LKY kneeling in front of Lim Bo Seng memorial.
Let us remember how LKY wrote that he volunteered to work for the Jap KempaiTai so that he can eat better and live better.

SPH and all Singapore Media gave LKY a fucking standing ovation and applause at how smart LKY was.
Never seen mass toadies jumping over their feet to suck LKY balls so publicly, to applaud despicable self serving cowardice as brilliant courageous play from LKY
They might as well give the Victoria Cross to LKY for that act of public cowardice.


Bravo!
Many Sinkies believe he was.
But, some may think he was English puppet...

I just like to highlight two sides of the coin.

Who are those some?
LKY running dogs who try to uplift their idol LKY translating prowess for Jap Kempaitai (even if I cannot understand how LKY , a monolinguist, can translate) by belittling Lim Po Seng.
To those some, LKY is a far superior hero by licking the balls of the Japs.
Yes!

So LKY can eat better and live better.
My own father ended the war with 2 bullets in his upper chest.
My father told me how he ate tapioca and grass, and he would have done that again, and fought the Japs.

While LKY ate better and live better.
Come to think of it, LKY is still eating better and living better than all of us.
Except LKY stink worse than a foul cesspit filled with rotting pigs and dogs and shit.
 
LKY Or LBS ?

Many see LBS as hero, and some see him as English puppet.

Think... from Japanese and their interpreters/ translators point of view in that time, he was a traitor.
He stayed by English side, while Asia was being liberated by Japanese.


Do you mean LKY or LBS ?

If he is doing it for China, I will say he is a hero. But, if it is for Sinkieland, he can still be considered as a hero unless he did it to please the crown.
 
He is hero for his familee but pai kia for the peasants cos he will take knuckle duster and wack you updside down. so not pray pray :D
 
Re: LKY Or LBS ?

Do you mean LKY or LBS ?

If he is doing it for China, I will say he is a hero. But, if it is for Sinkieland, he can still be considered as a hero unless he did it to please the crown.


Though LBS started anti-Japanese as Chinese nationalist, he joined force with English, and then trained.
He was a Chinese/ Sinkie war hero... seen by Japanese as English puppet.
Do wish I could be wrong.

The facts I put here are not to tarnish the good name of real hero(es).
Most, if not all, Asia nations were alliance with US and British to fight back Japan, knowing that the later master was worse than the first one.



Anti-Japanese activism

When the Second Sino-Japanese War broke out in 1937, Lim and other Chinese in Singapore participated in anti-Japanese activities, such as the boycotting of Japanese goods and fund-raising to support the war effort in China.

Towards the end of 1937, hundreds of overseas Chinese working in Japanese-owned industries in Malaya went on strike. At that time, the Japanese government owned a tin mine in Dungun (龍運), Terengganu, Malaya, where nearly 3,000 Chinese labourers were employed. The tin was shipped to Japan and used as raw material to manufacture weapons. Lim felt that if the workers in the Dungun mine went on strike, the Japanese would suffer a huge loss, so he planned to make the workers go on strike. Around February 1938, Lim travelled to Dungun with Zhuang Huiquan (simplified Chinese: 庄惠泉; traditional Chinese: 莊惠泉; pinyin: Zhuāng Huìquán) of the Singapore Anxi Association to carry out their plan. Zhuang went to the mine to persuade the workers to go on strike while Lim contacted the local police and gained their support. By early March, Lim and Zhuang achieved success as many workers left the mine and followed them to Singapore. On 11 March 1938, Lim and the Singapore Chinese community held a welcoming ceremony for the workers, who were later resettled and found employment in Singapore.

In December 1941, Lim was put in charge of organising a group of volunteers (part of the Straits Settlements Volunteer Force) to resist the Japanese, who were advancing towards Southeast Asia. The volunteers put up a fierce fight against the Japanese during the Battle of Singapore in February 1942.

[edit] Life in Force 136

On 11 February 1942, Lim left Singapore and travelled to Sumatra, Indonesia, with other Chinese community leaders and made his way to India later. He recruited and trained hundreds of secret agents through intensive military intelligence missions from China and India. He set up the Sino-British guerrilla task force Force 136 in mid-1942 together with Captain John Davis of the Special Operations Executive (SOE).
 
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This is my list of our National Heroes.. * LKY not included

Lim Bo Seng

Lt Adnan

Ang Peng Siong

David Lim

Fandi Ahmad

Uncle Choo Seng Quee

Quah footballing brothers

The late Ah Meng


Feel free to add on

Why Ang PS? Swimming is nothing. I would choose Joceyln Yeo
 
Loser CSJ is a national disgrace.

We all singaporeans have ONE common enemy.
That self serving bastard LKY.

Let us accept the warts and all of all and any allies for the moment until LKY and his cockroaches in white are thrown from power.
Let us not divide ourselves to the happiness of LKY

Unless your motive here is to help LKY to divide and conquer.

SUPPORT ANY AND ALL OPPOSITION
DO NOT BLACKEN ANY AND ALL OPPOSITION AS LKY WOULD LOVE YOU TO DO THAT.

FOCUS ON ELIMINATING THAT BASTARD LKY AND ALL HIS FUCKING COCKROACHES IN WHITE
 
Low Is Far Worse Than CSJ

Loser CSJ is a national disgrace.


If you wanna say someone is a disgrace to the country, it is probably the Sinkies. Sinkies can be manipulated so easily by the fascist to save their own skin and to nourish their own bellies.

Low betrayed the ENTIRE nation for kowtowing to PAP's hefty paychecks. He should be executed for treason.

What did CSJ do ? He did what many crazy fighters do. He wasn't even involved in the feud as some would have suggested him to be. Yes, Lee's mass media is successful in brainwashing the masses to hate the wrong man and love the 'right' man. What did both Low and Chiam did in the past for our political scene since they were in the parliament ?

Why is CSJ not popular ? Sinkies selfish behaviour and cowardice had to do with it. Brainwashed by Lee's media and edecay-sion in schools and old brains that lay stagnant since the early 60s and 70s. They are still dreaming of the old days in black and white images.

Sinkies are prepared to be upz in their asses for a mere few dollars while the fascist enjoy the labour of the masses.
 
Re: Low Is Far Worse Than CSJ

LKY ranks among the likes of Marcos, Mugabe, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Adi Amin.....though he was not as 'successful' in the bodycount....he was no less vile.
 
Re: Low Is Far Worse Than CSJ

LKY has his fair share of distracters, especially in his frailest days.

Like it or not, LKY will go down in history as the founding father of our great nation!

The good more than offset his shortness.

In life, you always win some and prepares to loose some!

What is most important is that you come out a better being after each trial and tribulation.

I love history … Thanks you!
 
Re: Low Is Far Worse Than CSJ

CSJ is an asshole that setback the opposition cause for more than 10 years. Also look at his antics during the Ponggol BE,,,talking shit like a retard,,,u must be a pappie dog to be able to sprout such shit.

If you wanna say someone is a disgrace to the country, it is probably the Sinkies. Sinkies can be manipulated so easily by the fascist to save their own skin and to nourish their own bellies.

Low betrayed the ENTIRE nation for kowtowing to PAP's hefty paychecks. He should be executed for treason.

What did CSJ do ? He did what many crazy fighters do. He wasn't even involved in the feud as some would have suggested him to be. Yes, Lee's mass media is successful in brainwashing the masses to hate the wrong man and love the 'right' man. What did both Low and Chiam did in the past for our political scene since they were in the parliament ?

Why is CSJ not popular ? Sinkies selfish behaviour and cowardice had to do with it. Brainwashed by Lee's media and edecay-sion in schools and old brains that lay stagnant since the early 60s and 70s. They are still dreaming of the old days in black and white images.

Sinkies are prepared to be upz in their asses for a mere few dollars while the fascist enjoy the labour of the masses.
 
Re: Low Is Far Worse Than CSJ

Mr Lee Kuan Yew is a great man, a great leader, a great politician, a great strategist and a great hero of the people of Singapore...

Lee Kuan Yew
By Simon Elegant Monday, Nov. 13, 2006

The first time I met Lee Kuan Yew I was under strict orders not to open my mouth. It was 1987, I was a wire-service reporter, and Singapore's patriarch was in the middle of one of his periodic campaigns to show the Western press who was the boss in his city. When my father, also a journalist, secured an interview with Lee for a book he was writing and asked if I could tag along, Lee's people eventually agreed — but only on condition that I not utter a single word. At one point during the interview, Lee launched into a withering criticism of arrogant Western journalists who imposed their values on others. I opened my mouth to say something, but one stern look of warning from Lee was enough to make me snap my jaws shut.

Lee is famous for his formidable personality and unshakeable faith in his own convictions. Combine those qualities with a burning intelligence, a cold-eyed pragmatism and an unrelenting focus on his goals and you have some sense of the man who almost single-handedly transformed a sleepy tropical port into one of the world's most economically vibrant city-states. Yet that achievement, extraordinary as it is, is not what makes Lee unique. Today, at 83, after some 50 years of public life, Lee can securely count himself as the one and only Asian who has played witness, sculptor and adviser to all the great historical shifts Asia has undergone over the decades: the rise of nationalism; the end of the cold war; the growth of prosperity; and the emergence of China as a new global power. It is all this that makes Lee not just an elder statesman and a voice for Asia, but an enduring symbol of the region's pragmatism and resilience.

Like most people, Lee was profoundly shaped by his early experiences — and the Cambridge-educated lawyer cut his teeth as a politician in a very rough school indeed. Amid the turmoil of independence from Britain in the 1950s, Lee faced down and ultimately defeated a deeply entrenched communist movement at a time when the red banners of Marxism seemed to be advancing inexorably throughout Asia. When he found himself Prime Minister in 1965, Lee applied the same tough approach to governing the tiny new nation. Although he called himself a socialist until the early 1970s, his actions were purely capitalist, forging Singapore's export-led economy by courting foreign investment and never wavering in his focus on three things: long-term planning, meritocracy and zero tolerance for corruption. The results have been dazzling: Singapore's GDP per capita exploded from a few hundred dollars in 1965 to around $29,500 today, just a few notches below its former colonial master Britain.

Last year, I had the opportunity to meet Lee again — this time for an extensive interview during which I was allowed to speak. I found him mellower than at our first meeting nearly two decades ago. He even choked up at one point as he talked about the death of a close friend. But the steely, uncompromising core that will always be bedrock Lee still rose to the surface. Asked about what his critics call a low tolerance for dissent in the city he virtually created, Lee wouldn't give an inch: "I'm not guided by what Human Rights Watch says. I am not interested in ratings by Freedom House or whatever. At the end of the day, is Singapore society better or worse off? That's the test." That test, even Lee's fiercest detractors would concede, Lee has passed spectacularly.
 
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Re: Low Is Far Worse Than CSJ

Like it or not, LKY will go down in history as the founding father of our great nation!
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FUCKING BULLSHIT

LKY is a fucking toad and nothing to do with the founding of Singapore.
LHL has a greater right to be made Field Marshallissimo with Victoria Cross and Iron Cross with swords and oakleaves and diamonds than LKY has a right to be thought of as founding father of Singapore
 
Re: Low Is Far Worse Than CSJ

LKY has his fair share of distracters, especially in his frailest days.

Like it or not, LKY will go down in history as the founding father of our great nation!

Singapore was founded and established as a seaport for global trading over a hundred years before LKY destroyed his friends and enemies to take over and rule Singapore in a stranglehold.

To thank LKY for Singapore's success is no different to thanking your father for finding your mother's chee bye so that you can be born. :D
 
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