SDP under Chee: From a well-respected opposition party to a pariah shunned by all

[jacys]

Chee's wife wrote on SDP website that when a young man wants to join SDP's activities, his father threaten to disown him.

SDP was founded in 1980 by the respectable Mr Chiam See Tong. In 1991, it won an unprecedented 3 seats in Parliament with some pundits predicting a two-party system in Singapore.

If Chiam has remained the leader of SDP, the chances of SDP building on their electoral success and winning a GRC in the next election is pretty high. Singaporeans by and large have a favorable impression of SDP then.

After Chee took over SDP, the party's fortunes plummetted. From a well regarded opposition party, it now becomes the joke of the opposition. Singaporeans and even ordinary opposition member like myself keep a distance away from SDP.

Chee cannot using the excuse that SDP is prosecuted by the PAP. SDP has been in existence for 14 years before he took over, did it ever get into trouble with the government ?

It's a shame that one of Singapore's strongest opposition party is going to be dissolved soon and Chee must take up the bulk of the blame.

After more than a decade in politics, Chee still cannot figure out why he receive no support from ordinary Singaporeans and why SDP's share of vote has been dwindling after Mr Chiam left the party.

It appears to me and many WP members and supporters as well that Chee has an axe to grind with the Lees and have no real interest of Singaporeans at heart.

Stop the fight and admit defeat, Chee. Emigrate to U.S. or Australia like Francis Seow and Tang Liang Hong where your childish antics are tolerated.

Please stop destroying the lives of Singaporeans who are naive enough to be brainwashed by you.

 

[samurai1110]

On top of all u have said (which summarises exactly what this man is all about) he should also be responsible to his family members and not allow them to commit 'harakiri' with him.:(

 

[Wisely]

Put this up in Wayangparty if you dare to Ejay/Avantas.

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=120070

 

[myfoot123]

Chee's wife wrote on SDP website that when a young man wants to join SDP's activities, his father threaten to disown him.

Different parties have different strategies. I rather have someone as a bane of pap rather than non at all. I see people sharing common enemy are friends rather than enemy. Their help may comes in handy someday when you needed most, probably not now. So keep your thoughts hidden behind your mind till it is riped to come out.

 

[leetahbar]

[It's a shame that one of Singapore's strongest opposition party is going to be dissolved soon and Chee must take up the bulk of the blame.]

strongest? how is that being defined?

 

[guavatree]

strongest? how is that being defined?

bapok fake monk PAP dog dun be jealous lah!

 

[Alu862]

Chee never asked Gopalan for help to emigrate?

Oh after all, Nair hates the Chinese.

 

[The_Latest_H]

Dr. Chee has his own ways; WP has theirs. And when one's ways have been seen in polls and in unofficial views to be sliding towards the negative, then one would be prudent to look back to see if there were any actions that have been perceived to be mistakes in the eyes of many.

Its an old cliche by me but if you took the action and has been proven wrong, then you take responsibility and suffer the consequences. And in politics, things are seldom black-and-white; its often in shades of grey. That's why politics, like law, is one of the most dirtiest job ever.

That calls for a flexible approach. And most top politicians, especially the successful ones, are so because they are flexible in approaching people, issues and questions. They don't follow a template; they see the situation, find the best solution for that moment, and apply it.

Rigid politicians, on the other hand, fail because they don't see it from their angle, and they won't see it because they think they're always right.

 

[yellow_people]

And in politics, things are seldom black-and-white; its often in shades of grey. That's why politics, like law, is one of the most dirtiest job ever.

Thanks for reminding us. We all know that WP likes to get down and play dirty to achieve its political agenda.

That calls for a flexible approach. And most top politicians, especially the successful ones, are so because they are flexible in approaching people, issues and questions. They don't follow a template; they see the situation, find the best solution for that moment, and apply it.

I'm pretty certain that's the reason why LKY is LTK's idol. LKY fits the above paragraph of yours to the tee. It little wonder why LTK has styled his Wannabe PAP or WPAP into the alternative PAP party. He even sounds like LKY when he says Singaporeans do not want Western style democracy. At least LKY waited till he got his hands on the whip.

Rigid politicians, on the other hand, fail because they don't see it from their angle, and they won't see it because they think they're always right.

Chee Soon Juan and his SDP have moral fiber. You interpret it to mean rigid. They can't be bought at a price unlike LTK and his WP. That's why they continue to be harassed by the PAP. Fair minded Singaporeans know this very well.

If the Chees and his SDP had not defied the PAP with their numerous protests and civil disobedience, there wouldn't be a designated corner to go protest. A concession by the PAP and the full credit goes to the Chees and SDP.

Now tell me what has the WP done so far since the elections??

 

[The_Latest_H]

A politician who is elected will have to govern on behalf of all, including those who have not voted for him or her. In this aspect, politicians who know that and apply that will more likely be elected time and time again, despite the pressure from the opponent's party.

CSJ has his own methods; other parties have their own. If Dr. Chee believes his methods remain effective, then that its his choice, and I respect that dearly.
At the same time, if WP thinks their methods are better, then that's their choice. And so it is for our fellow opposition brothers in Chiam See Tong's alliance.

My goal is that we would be able to work together, against a common opponent, very much how Obama and Clinton managed to form a viable, formidable coalition against McCain in the recently-concluded campaign. So if there's anyone who only likes to sow discord among opposition ranks, then I think these people are the ones we should be wary of.

 

[Zeitgeist]

The full worth of your argument can only be proven and judged if and when CSJ can attain a full and legitimate seat in the House Of Parliament and the chance for those who voted him in to scrutinise his performance and conduct during the course of a full term.

What happens after that is another story!

 

[samurai1110]

The full worth of your argument can only be proven and judged if and when CSJ can attain a full and legitimate seat in the House Of Parliament and the chance for those who voted him in to scrutinise his performance and conduct during the course of a full term.

What happens after that is another story!

A gangster in parliament?
U are inviting a 'free-for-all' like the Taiwanese?
Surely u must be joking!

 

[yellow_people]

The full worth of your argument can only be proven and judged if and when CSJ can attain a full and legitimate seat in the House Of Parliament and the chance for those who voted him in to scrutinise his performance and conduct during the course of a full term.

This is what the PAP wants brainwashed Singaporeans to believe in. That the worth of a politician can only be proven with a parliamentary seat.

This way the PAP can continually harass those politicians who pose a threat by using the state machinery and lawsuits keep them out of parliament.

You can't have these politicians actually doing the job voters who sent them to parliament want them to do in the first place. That is, to ask tough questions that embarrass the establishment and hopefully a change comes out with the pressure.

In the remote chance should one of them succeed in winning a seat against all odds, that MP is promptly made a scapegoat and bankrupted making the seat vacant till the next GE.

The type of "opposition" you then get are the ones that stay muted in parliament and collect their monthly MP salary. That is what Singaporeans have at present in parliament.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Yellow

Perhaps not brain washed but politically aware. Dr Chee has chosen a differing route and in that he has disagreed with what JBJ believes in. My own view is that he has to decide whether he wants to be, a politician or an activists but he cannot be both at the same time. JBJ could win seats and could pose a threat to a PAP GRC despite the odds, the comparison between that and Dr Chee is stark and all revealing.

The PAP attacks on JBJ took nearly a decade and in that decade he helped bring in more opposition MPs, some of which you may like and some which you may not.

Even if you disagree with the present bunch of opposition MPs, the challenge is to elect or to put in a bunch more agreeable to your political viewpoint.

Civil disobedience for it to put pressure has to be mass. Dr Chee at this moment whilst gathering a group of supporters both on line and off has not demonstrated either mass or an ability to harness that support to increase votes in a manner that puts the fear of god into the PAP.




Locke

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Aiyah don't we already have The Godfather in our parliament

A gangster in parliament?

 

[jacys]

Hi SDP clown:

WP has TWO seats in Parliament.

What about SDP ? ZERO

WP is the opposition party of the FUTURE.

What about SDP ?

Going to be DISSOLVED soon.

Mr Low Thia Kiang is a well-respected credible opposition leader.

What about CHEE ?

Just a MAD DOG.

The faster SDP disappears from the local political scene, the faster WP will progress.

Thanks for reminding us. We all know that WP likes to get down and play dirty to achieve its political agenda.



I'm pretty certain that's the reason why LKY is LTK's idol. LKY fits the above paragraph of yours to the tee. It little wonder why LTK has styled his Wannabe PAP or WPAP into the alternative PAP party. He even sounds like LKY when he says Singaporeans do not want Western style democracy. At least LKY waited till he got his hands on the whip.



Chee Soon Juan and his SDP have moral fiber. You interpret it to mean rigid. They can't be bought at a price unlike LTK and his WP. That's why they continue to be harassed by the PAP. Fair minded Singaporeans know this very well.

If the Chees and his SDP had not defied the PAP with their numerous protests and civil disobedience, there wouldn't be a designated corner to go protest. A concession by the PAP and the full credit goes to the Chees and SDP.

Now tell me what has the WP done so far since the elections??

 

[The_Latest_H]

Hi SDP clown:

WP has TWO seats in Parliament.

What about SDP ? ZERO

WP is the opposition party of the FUTURE.

What about SDP ?

Going to be DISSOLVED soon.

Mr Low Thia Kiang is a well-respected credible opposition leader.

What about CHEE ?

Just a MAD DOG.

The faster SDP disappears from the local political scene, the faster WP will progress.

Now, now, now, dear brother, we can disagree without being disagreeable. And we shouldn't take things personally, even if some wants us to be. I mean, we can have professional disagreements, but that's the limit. If we cross that grey line, then there's no limit where personal disagreements will bring us and we don't want to go there.

So to be honest, while I applaud the improvement in yellow_people's arguments, I don't take his words personally. I understand that he has his own right to state his views, even if I don't agree with his on a professional basis.

But what I do not want to do is to crow over him. A win is a win, a loss is a loss. Once we are finished, we shake hands and we go our separate ways. Its no time to be an arrogant winner or a sore loser.

 

[jacys]

Bro,

The problem with WP is that it is too quiet and bochap. This enable the PAP to continue to use SDP to smear the good name of the opposition.

Moderates in the opposition must raise their objection to the hooligan tactics of SDP.

I have nothing personal against Chee, but when his antics go overboard, as members of a constructive opposition party, we must step forward and voice our concerns.

Now, now, now, dear brother, we can disagree without being disagreeable. And we shouldn't take things personally, even if some wants us to be. I mean, we can have professional disagreements, but that's the limit. If we cross that grey line, then there's no limit where personal disagreements will bring us and we don't want to go there.

So to be honest, while I applaud the improvement in yellow_people's arguments, I don't take his words personally. I understand that he has his own right to state his views, even if I don't agree with his on a professional basis.

But what I do not want to do is to crow over him. A win is a win, a loss is a loss. Once we are finished, we shake hands and we go our separate ways. Its no time to be an arrogant winner or a sore loser.

 

[samurai1110]

Aiyah don't we already have The Godfather in our parliament

That one got class.
This one is just petty thief.

 

[The_Latest_H]

Bro,

The problem with WP is that it is too quiet and bochap. This enable the PAP to continue to use SDP to smear the good name of the opposition.

Moderates in the opposition must raise their objection to the hooligan tactics of SDP.

I have nothing personal against Chee, but when his antics go overboard, as members of a constructive opposition party, we must step forward and voice our concerns.

I'd rather tell that straight to him face to face, than via the internet or through the media or even through the blogs. At least it shows that we have the guts to do so, and we are more respectful.

Its like when a football club sells a player. A club doesn't sell a player behind the player's back, and only tells him that after he's been sold. And that club would be viewed even worse if the player and his agent finds out through the media and not through direct channels.

So if we want to send a message of displeasure through honesty and through a polite way, then we better do it face to face. Then at least they can't fault us for our honesty. Now we are just slinging m&d and it's going nowhere.