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We did not have 20/20 foresight, says PM Lee

BuiKia

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SINGAPORE — The question was whether Singaporeans would benefit from a public hearing on how public infrastructure came to lag behind population growth.

Posed yesterday at an Institute of Policy Studies conference on governance, it prompted Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong to provide the most detailed explanation yet on the policy misstep, which has been a hot-button issue since it first surfaced in 2009.

“You don’t need a commission or an inquiry to find out, I can tell you how,” he responded to audience member Leon Perera, a business consultant who spoke in his personal capacity.

“It happened because we didn’t have 20/20 foresight,” said Mr Lee, citing uncertainties wrought by economic cycles and foreign worker inflow in the last decade.

In retrospect, more could have been done to get ready for a larger population, and the Government will try to do better going forward and create a greater buffer in its planning, the Prime Minister added.

The Government will release its population White Paper today, which will make “a guess” on the parameters for jobs, housing, transport and infrastructure to ensure good quality of life for Singaporeans, said Mr Lee.

Mr Lee recounted that Singapore’s economy ran into recession in the wake of the Sept 11, 2001 attacks, and slow growth led to foreign workers heading home “in some numbers”, he said. Housing prices went down and the Government did not know how long the downturn would last, he added.

Then by 2005 to 2006, things began to look up.

“We decided, I decided, that we should try and make up for lost time, because you want the economy to grow, you want Singapore to make progress, and you don’t know how long the sun is going to shine,” he told an audience of academics, and business and civil society representatives at the Shangri-La Hotel.

“As it turned out, the sun remained shining for longer than we expected. So the population grew faster than we expected, our infrastructure didn’t keep up.

“Could we have predicted that we would have five years where the economy would grow brilliantly and our population would increase so rapidly? I don’t think we could easily have said that.”

He added that it would have been “very risky” to turn away extra jobs created and opportunities like the integrated resorts. So the Government forged ahead, only to have the “strains” show up “quite suddenly”.

In 2009, the Jobs Credit Scheme was introduced and the Republic recovered more quickly than expected from the global financial crisis.

Fewer foreign workers left for home than expected.

The housing price index, which had remained flat for months, suddenly shot up in June that year. By August, the Government was thinking of property cooling measures, said Mr Lee.

On whether policies could be finetuned along the way, Mr Lee said it was not possible, given uncertainties in a volatile world. Changes can happen in the span of weeks – like how the property market changed in 2009 – or a year. But to ramp up the housing programme and to plan and build a train network takes five to 10 years, he noted.

“You have to make a stand on it, you have to make your best guess, build in some safety factor and even then, it may turn out differently than you had planned,” he said.

In a wide-ranging dialogue, Mr Lee was also asked about the difference between being popular and being populist, and whether the Government could take more steps in healthcare and transport policies to reinforce that it was on the side of the people.

Mr Lee said being populist means taking action that is pleasing but may be harmful to the masses. Popular policies could please the masses, but also serve to do good. “I think what we are trying to do as a Government is to try and package our policies so that they can be popular, but at the same time they can be beneficial,” he said.

He added that Our Singapore Conversation, the ongoing national dialogue, seeks to come up with new ideas on how to achieve “good objectives” without running into problems commonly encountered in the rest of the world. He said the right mechanisms have to be used and “you want to do it in such a way that people do not feel whenever you have a problem, it’s the Government which has to be blamed”.
 

soIsee

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Pay them millions of dollars to come up with excuses.

Words like no foresight, policy misstep then can blame all other things like economic cycles not to their favor blah blah blah.

Never is their fault.

But money , lots of it.

They take.
 

KuanTi01

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Considering the mess that they have created due to their lack of 20/20 foresight as admitted by the PM, the entire Cabinet should take a deep 90 degrees bow (the Japanese/Korean/Taiwanese style) to give their long overdue apologies to the ordinary rank and file Singaporeans who suffered the most from the said mess ranging from half-baked and misguided policies in population, transportation, healthcare, housing and other social issues. Before the PAP sets itself to correct the situation, they would do well first and foremost to show their humility and sincereity. Just my humble thoughts nia!
 

giggity_shit

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Pay them millions of dollars to come up with excuses.

Words like no foresight, policy misstep then can blame all other things like economic cycles not to their favor blah blah blah.

Never is their fault.

But money , lots of it.

They take.

If they take massive paycut, you will allow them to where glasses?
 

soIsee

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If they take massive paycut, you will allow them to where glasses?

Glasses?

Even if these white scums have a new set of eye balls transplanted, they will still be the same.

Maybe it's the brains that they have.

Or maybe its in their genes.

Or maybe they should work for free and see how many will still be there.
 

jazzger

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But from his statement, the feeling is like him telling all that its impossible to predict the future and so again not their fault .....
 

Agoraphobic

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20/20 foresight?? Just allow the private sector to operate with as little controls as possible instead of curbing this and curbing that.

If the authorities did not clamp down on the motorcycle groups in the seventies, and allowed some freedom in experimentation by the SMEs during that time, Sg would have an industry ready to cater to the phenomenal growth in small capacity two-cylce engines in Malaysia and Indonesia. Look at what's happened instead, the two-wheeld riders in Sg caters and sucks up to the rich-guy type cissy rider buying expensive Harleys and Ducatis and this trend is so foreign to Asian riders. Any customization in the local bike? Nah, zilch, just buy off the showroom 100% stock including branded HD boots and gloves, what a bunch of suck ups!

Cheers!
 

BuiKia

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We are not asking for a prophet here. Just hold the ship tighter and do something for the voters...and stop listening to your grassroots. They are craps.


But from his statement, the feeling is like him telling all that its impossible to predict the future and so again not their fault .....
 
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tonychat

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what 20/20 bullshit sight.

they are totally incompetent... just that they do not admit it. so let us admit it for them.
 

streetsmart73

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Pay them millions of dollars to come up with excuses.

Words like no foresight, policy misstep then can blame all other things like economic cycles not to their favor blah blah blah.

Never is their fault.

But money , lots of it.

They take.


hi there


1. bro, bingo!
2. aiyoh! what are your kpis, leader of the dafter sheep?
3. blame everything except the same herd of dafter sheep:rolleyes:
 

saratogas

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We are not asking for a prophet here. Just hold the ship tighter and do something for the voters...and stop listening to your grassroots. They are craps.

Same same lah... Normal days don't burn joss sticks & offerings... Expect blessings?!
 

kingrant

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I am beginning to wonder if these frequent apologising is good for the country, even if he thinks it is good for his Party and save his skin.

Isn't he also blindsided that by fessing they lacked 20/20 foresight, they should not then be getting 20/20 top dollars in salary? What an insult! Just say Sorry and let's move on - same pay, same new normal.

He would have been more convincing if he makes his Cabinet take a hefty pay cut -50% - to cover for all the cockups and missteps instead of saying sorry. The Jap cabinet led by its PM would come out and give a long low bow in shame to the electorate.

So you either do the above or come out like the Old man did - crush all dissenting voices and make a gutsy and robust defence of your actions, thump the lectern, wag his finger, scowl and squint at the camera for effect, sack some Ministers?
 

batman1

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PAP inflicted so much disaster and chaos to the country,we demand they cut their salaries by 90% immediately now or resign now !!!
 

BuiKia

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Hello....dun sleep already...time to wake up....stop dreaming...


PAP inflicted so much disaster and chaos to the country,we demand they cut their salaries by 90% immediately now or resign now !!!
 

Devil Within

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How to have 20/20 foresight when you have only YES-men in the parliament? That is why we need MORE OPPOSITIONS!
 

Rogue Trader

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He's trying to make it sound like they miscalculated ... when in fact opening up to foreigners had made so much money for Mdm Ho's Temasek Holdings.

And when the big party's over, it is our sons and daughters who have to foot the bill.
 

myfoot123

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Here are his lies again..

“As it turned out, the sun remained shining for longer than we expected. So the population grew faster than we expected, our infrastructure didn’t keep up.

“Could we have predicted that we would have five years where the economy would grow brilliantly and our population would increase so rapidly? I don’t think we could easily have said that.”

He added that it would have been “very risky” to turn away extra jobs created and opportunities like the integrated resorts. So the Government forged ahead, only to have the “strains” show up “quite suddenly”.

Extra jobs for who? I heard all those jobs were taken up by foreigners. What he meant by population grew without PAP expectation? what kind of intelligent answer is this bull to tell us that govt is not aware of population growth?

In 2009, the Jobs Credit Scheme was introduced and the Republic recovered more quickly than expected from the global financial crisis.

Fewer foreign workers left for home than expected.
and yet he increased foreign workers manifold

The housing price index, which had remained flat for months, suddenly shot up in June that year. By August, the Government was thinking of property cooling measures, said Mr Lee.
Suddenly shot up? Many Singaporeans believe it was deliberately shot up by govt to cut down on supply of housing and deliberate increase of foreigners.

On whether policies could be finetuned along the way, Mr Lee said it was not possible, given uncertainties in a volatile world. Changes can happen in the span of weeks – like how the property market changed in 2009 – or a year. But to ramp up the housing programme and to plan and build a train network takes five to 10 years, he noted.
Isn't this the root cause of over population issues? He means we were suddenly attacked by foreign invaders in millions without his knowledge. He must be sleeping than or did the ICA and MOM sleeping on the jobs? How can that be, over the span of 10 years he kept harping the importance of immigrants and even brought a foreign sample to boast and clap at his speech during National Day Rally.

“You have to make a stand on it, you have to make your best guess, build in some safety factor and even then, it may turn out differently than you had planned,” he said.
Which means he is indeed out of touch. When ground sentiment provided him the answer of his misplanned, he denied the voices and bring in his puppets and parrots to gag singaporeans that nothing went wrong.


Mr Lee said being populist means taking action that is pleasing but may be harmful to the masses. Popular policies could please the masses, but also serve to do good. “I think what we are trying to do as a Government is to try and package our policies so that they can be popular, but at the same time they can be beneficial,” he said.
With all the above miscalculation by PAP, who cares of his populist or popular policies. PAP is NO LONGER POPULAR in the eyes of Singaporeans. Our tolerance is reached.


. He said the right mechanisms have to be used and “you want to do it in such a way that people do not feel whenever you have a problem, it’s the Government which has to be blamed”.
A govt without the 20/20 foresight, shouldn't PAP be blamed?
 
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