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DelphiGOD

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Thanks for reminding me. You really are a bigger twit than I first thought. You write a full page in support of my views and you're dumb enough to think you're actually rebutting them.

For the same reason why some folks must be kept away from reading medicine even if they qualify on the scholastic level, because they lack the emotive and analytic abilities to comprehend that there are shades of colors and not everything is in black or white. This goes for political studies too.
 

Leongsam

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For the same reason why some folks must be kept away from reading medicine even if they qualify on the scholastic level, because they lack the emotive and analytic abilities to comprehend that there are shades of colors and not everything is in black or white. This goes for political studies too.

I went through the exchange again and I believe the misunderstanding lies in the interpretation of the world "leader".

I was using the term to describe someone with outstanding leadership qualities.

Those that were opposing my views took the word "leader" to be synonymous with "Prime Minister" or "President" or "CEO".

Very few of those who hold high office are actually leaders. Many of them are anything but. Pinky Loong is one such example. He doesn't have an ounce of leadership in him. If he wasn't for his father, he wouldn't even be a department head in medium sized company.

The real leaders are few and far between.. Margaret Thatcher, Mandela, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs come to mind. None of their successors had or have what it takes. Microsoft is now being run by a clown and Apple by a technocrat. The future is not bright for these companies.
 

DelphiGOD

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I went through the exchange again and I believe the misunderstanding lies in the interpretation of the world "leader".

I was using the term to describe someone with outstanding leadership qualities.

Those that were opposing my views took the word "leader" to be synonymous with "Prime Minister" or "President" or "CEO".

Very few of those who hold high office are actually leaders. Many of them are anything but. Pinky Loong is one such example. He doesn't have an ounce of leadership in him. If he wasn't for his father, he wouldn't even be a department head in medium sized company.

Of course, if the office is handed to him on a silver platter, yet in the context of a so-called democratic system, one has to expend immense effort to slip in the dynastic intentions of the father. Therefore, one has to create the vocation of paper general and spin a story of great leadership and stewardship, as spun for the cable car accident, as a picture perfect of one who can undertake that "leadership" baptism of fire. Frankly, without the father, the son is nothing much.
 

blackmondy

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Hard truths:

His Pee-M son walks like a sissy.

His daughter-in-law looks like a man.

His daughter looks like a gorilla.

His whiter than white grandson is a born MIW, au naturel.
 

mojito

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Technocrats are a dime a dozen.

Visionary leaders come once in a lifetime.

If you take a look at what is happening to Apple without Steve Jobs despite the fact that the team he led to glory is still there, you'll see my point.

An astute observation. But why is it these mavericks always have some insufferable flaws?
 

moolightaffairs

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If nobody wants to follow you, you can't be called a leader by any measure. It's not a label you can simply pin to your chest and you become one. The title is bestowed upon you by those who admire you and want you to show them the way.

Leaders are unique individuals who can influence large numbers with charisma and persuasive powers which the ordinary mortal does not possess. You can't quantify this unique quality but you'll know it when you see it.

When Steve Jobs was on stage, he could make an ordinary product appear extraordinary and cool He could create a buzz. Tim Cooke and his team who have inherited the road show but the hype falls flat. It's just not the same anymore.

They're all available on youtube. Judge for yourself.

sam, i think u really got it all wrong. i am not talking about appt or office holder u twit! :rolleyes:
this is what im talking about. i am talking about leaders! leaders need the crowd to be successful! yes he lead with or without official appt. but when the crowd choose not to follow, u r not leader anymore and u will not build something great. leaders need the crowd more and foremost. that's why many leaders wannabe become indian chief.
not need to quote examples, it will lead to confusion and stereotype. lets keep it simple and basic for discussion of what is a leader.
 
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hairylee

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Technocrats are a dime a dozen.

Visionary leaders come once in a lifetime.

If you take a look at what is happening to Apple without Steve Jobs despite the fact that the team he led to glory is still there, you'll see my point.

Yes, it is now proven he is a cheap labour visionary.
 

watchman8

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The real leaders are few and far between.. Margaret Thatcher, Mandela, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs come to mind. None of their successors had or have what it takes. Microsoft is now being run by a clown and Apple by a technocrat. The future is not bright for these companies.

You are just as confused. There are many real leaders around, just that the situation does not require or allow them to be transformative.

The examples you gave are visionary leaders, but they don't entirely define what a great leader is. A good leader can be great by maintaining the status quo because that is the optimal path, and he/she will have the wisdom to realise it and lead as such. Rather than to fall prey to one's narcissistic tendency to be different or transformative for the sake of it.

Some of the PAP leaders are as such; why is there need for 2 mega casinos when there was no need for that extra boost to GDP? The Son is too eager to impress his severely critical Dad, and to show that he is even better to everyone else.
 

Conqueror

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I went through the exchange again and I believe the misunderstanding lies in the interpretation of the world "leader".

I was using the term to describe someone with outstanding leadership qualities.


Sorry hor. The keyword for the word leader is "lead". Only the very few like Sun Yet-san, Jesus, or maybe Gandhi can be considered as leaders. The leaders lead his people just as shepherds lead their sheep. Sheep are not goaded or herded like so-called cowboys. Sheep follows the voice of their leaders or shepherds. Leaders do not threaten or whip their believers. Therefore leaders aren't dictators. ONLY dictators dictate what you must do. Army officers are dictators.

I still don't understand why people keep telling me the difference between Managers and Leaders ! They are actually two different things. OMG ! They should compare between Dictators and Leaders instead.
 

Fook Seng

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Fook Gor, many will not understand this. It is indeed sad to find forumers who were thankful for the asset "enhancement" without realising who will be the eventual winners and the repercussions of it. I give up. :o :( :mad:

If the Govt has confidence in their own investment, it will not need the asset enhancement to shore up the reserves. Go figure how important this is.
 

DelphiGOD

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Asset enhancement is an illusion. If the cost of living keep rising and artificial inflation of land prices is the manipulative tool used, then asset enhancement is a gimmick for the masses who have limited assets and a boon for those who are already rich.
 

blackmondy

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Asset enhancement is an illusion. If the cost of living keep rising and artificial inflation of land prices is the manipulative tool used, then asset enhancement is a gimmick for the masses who have limited assets and a boon for those who are already rich.

Asset enhancement in the past used to meant a boob job.

Now it's just a good-sounding substitute term for artificially-engineered inflation.
 

ray_of_hope

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it's not an illusion if you cash out, emigrate, and invest your profit in a better property on a real piece of land with a real view.


The number of bureaucratic hurdles that are continuously being put in place makes what you suggest possible but increasingly difficult.
 

eatshitndie

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The number of bureaucratic hurdles that are continuously being put in place makes what you suggest possible but increasingly difficult.

if you disclose your assets and capital gains that you're willing to liquidate in sg and transfer to the adoptive country, they will welcome you. many countries, including the u.s., make exceptions or provide special visas for those with over usd1m. do it expediently, before thresholds are increased to usd2m. :biggrin:
 

ray_of_hope

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if you disclose your assets and capital gains that you're willing to liquidate in sg and transfer to the adoptive country, they will welcome you. many countries, including the u.s., make exceptions or provide special visas for those with over usd1m. do it expediently, before thresholds are increased to usd2m. :biggrin:


My total nett assets (80% of which is in brick and mortar, i.e., flat) would exceed US$1m. But then there is the little matter of securing employment in the receiving country.
 

Leongsam

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My total nett assets (80% of which is in brick and mortar, i.e., flat) would exceed US$1m. But then there is the little matter of securing employment in the receiving country.

Why bother with employment. There are so many opportunities to be self employed.
 
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