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主题: 读李叶明的《走出悲情、拥抱未来》
作者:韦春花 3:25pm 20/02/2013
读李叶明的《走出悲情、拥抱未来》
每当提及新移民融入本地社会这个课题时，执政党的高官就会摆出一副慈祥的脸孔，以和蔼的口吻说：“新移民的融入需要一两代人的时间，这是很正常的。”这番话是基于一个很乐观的前提：就是第一代新移民大概会夹着尾巴做人，到了第二代在新加坡现有体制下接受小中大学教育，讲Singlish，到时就必然接受新加坡的“核心价值”，所以从那时候起，大概就不会有什么磨合的问题了。但是精英们错了，大错特错，现在就有像李叶明这样的第一代移民，本该夹住尾巴的却不要夹住，甚至妄想对新加坡的“核心价值”也要轧一脚来重新定义，他希望所谓的融入是大家一起到中途点相遇会比较好……
我接受李叶明是新加坡公民，但一定是我讨厌的新加坡人，就因为他太嚣张。台湾有句俚语说“嚣掰没有落魄的久”，就看他怎么走向这一步？为了讨论的方便，以免和土生土长的新加坡混淆，我且把他冠上“中字牌新移民”这个称号。在新加坡有许多印字牌、马字牌等的新移民，唯独这种中字牌特别聒噪、特别有话说。为什么呢？就是挟着执政党过去多年宠着他们，你看，早报天天有个“早报中国”增刊，每个星期一三大版的《新汇点》，连主编都和他们一样是来自“祖国”的同胞。之前把他们都捧到九霄云外，PR、公民权都是自动offer的，要进邻里学校任他们进、要买组屋PR都可以买，然后把整间组屋出租，回去神州遥控当寓公，多写意、多自在，现在一切都收紧了，怎么不“干”声冲天呢？
李叶明耍弄小聪明，坏就坏在只把自己局限在他的小圈子里，对于外面的事知之甚少，行动党神话开始在分崩离析也不知情。比如他说：
原因我在《刘程强在说什么？》一文中已经提到很多了。比如，工人党主张冻结外劳，是不是一个极端方案？为什么要不顾一切反对外来人口？经济增长真的不重要吗？工人党主张进一步调低经济增长，一面又主张提高工资，他们是否意识到这两者之间的矛盾呢？
还有最关键的“战后婴儿潮”问题。从你们主张增加居民人口的就业参与率，提出所谓每年挖掘多1%的本地劳动力，就可以看出你们对“战后婴儿潮”问题完全失忆，没有意识到整百万新加坡人将在未来十多年内达到退休年龄。新加坡正面对人口迅速老化的危机！……
自以为提的这些大哉问，都有个标准答案（PAP的答案），其实只要去听一听2月16日芳林公园集会上的发言，特别是梁实轩、陈钦亮、陈如斯几位，就不难发现：1、冻结外劳根本不是什么极端的方案。2、没有人说过要不顾一切反对外来人口。3、新加坡要永续生存和发展，的确还有比经济增长更重要的东西。4、调低增长和改善低收入者的收入，两者并没有矛盾。
李叶明谈到“战后婴儿潮”更是荒腔走板，令人笑破肚皮，完全照搬白皮书自己都不消化的那一段。请问李叶明：新加坡人还有退休年龄吗？什么叫做“整百万新加坡人将在未来十多年内达到退休年龄”？建议他去听听梁实轩在芳林演讲的结束段，最后梁实轩问与会者：“新加坡有退休金吗？”大声回答“没有！”“新加坡有福利吗？”大声回答：“没有！”“新加坡有津贴吗？”大声回答：“没有！”“那（政府）还会有什么负担？”陈钦亮更以自身的经验，认为上一代的老人家（战后出世）都还过得去（当然不是每一位啦），现在反而是年轻一代负担不起，转向爸妈要求财政上的援助。
李叶明说：“我想，刘先生如果忘记了一个传统的移民社会应有怎样的胸怀，不妨参考一下孙先生的说法。何必非要把新公民视为威胁、视为对新加坡人核心的稀释呢？他们为什么不能是对新加坡人核心的加强？”（《走出悲情，拥抱未来》……“原来刘程强也知道，在建国时，多数新加坡人也是移民，是后来才变成‘道地的新加坡人’。那为什么新公民不可以呢？是新公民在本地生活的年数不会逐年递增？还是新加坡必须得再建国一次，才有机会成为‘道地的新加坡人’？为什么刘程强认为，作为一个传统的移民社会，新加坡连每年增加不到1%的新公民都难以接纳、无法磨合？”（《刘程强在说什么？》）
眼明的读者到这里一定看得出，刘程强担心的恰恰是这类李叶明们来稀释和重新定义新加坡的核心，到时他们人多势众，说不定得按他们的“加强”看法来办事。
为什么李叶明要不断强调“本来是移民社会”、“传统的移民社会”呢？就是要取得一种心理上的优势：咬定他跟土生土长的新加坡人比，也不过是先来后到的差别而已。况且他还是来自许多土生土长新加坡人祖先的发源地。这种情况在其他字牌的新移民身上都没有看到，或许这跟在红旗下生长的残忍制度有关吧？
五十年前是移民社会的新加坡，经过四十几年的建国，难道还会一直继续是移民社会，凭什么你可以说得这样理直气壮？哦，就是为了方便这些中字牌不断的到来，让他们名正言顺，不吃半点亏。就是基于这样的逻辑，他们心底上是诚心希望新加坡永远是一个驿站，好让他们可以自由地往返寄居地和“祖国”之间。不谙英语的第一代就在这里站稳脚跟，然后第二代喝了这里的半洋墨水就展翅高飞……如意算盘是打得价响。
所以像李叶明（强调哦，像李叶明）这种中字牌新移民，根本没打算融入（等别人来融入他），他甚至不关心新加坡社会上正在发生着的事，也不知道现在有多少议题在新加坡人之间流传，只是一心想把辩论辩赢了，半秒钟也没有想过和土生土长的新加坡同胞同呼吸，知道他们的焦虑和热望。曝露出来，他恰好就是土生土长新加坡人最忌讳的典型，这类人如果继续获得官媒的助力，最终将侵蚀新加坡的“核心价值”，把它搞得不伦不类。
我劝李叶明有空去找出《三国志·魏书》有关杨修的故事来读一读。大家都是千年狐狸，还搞什么聊斋嘛！
另：能够得到刘程强的回应，李叶明的肾上腺素简直爆表，欣喜若狂，且看他假矜持偏于当庭卖弄：
主题: 读李叶明的《走出悲情、拥抱未来》
作者:韦春花 3:25pm 20/02/2013
读李叶明的《走出悲情、拥抱未来》
每当提及新移民融入本地社会这个课题时，执政党的高官就会摆出一副慈祥的脸孔，以和蔼的口吻说：“新移民的融入需要一两代人的时间，这是很正常的。”这番话是基于一个很乐观的前提：就是第一代新移民大概会夹着尾巴做人，到了第二代在新加坡现有体制下接受小中大学教育，讲Singlish，到时就必然接受新加坡的“核心价值”，所以从那时候起，大概就不会有什么磨合的问题了。但是精英们错了，大错特错，现在就有像李叶明这样的第一代移民，本该夹住尾巴的却不要夹住，甚至妄想对新加坡的“核心价值”也要轧一脚来重新定义，他希望所谓的融入是大家一起到中途点相遇会比较好……
我接受李叶明是新加坡公民，但一定是我讨厌的新加坡人，就因为他太嚣张。台湾有句俚语说“嚣掰没有落魄的久”，就看他怎么走向这一步？为了讨论的方便，以免和土生土长的新加坡混淆，我且把他冠上“中字牌新移民”这个称号。在新加坡有许多印字牌、马字牌等的新移民，唯独这种中字牌特别聒噪、特别有话说。为什么呢？就是挟着执政党过去多年宠着他们，你看，早报天天有个“早报中国”增刊，每个星期一三大版的《新汇点》，连主编都和他们一样是来自“祖国”的同胞。之前把他们都捧到九霄云外，PR、公民权都是自动offer的，要进邻里学校任他们进、要买组屋PR都可以买，然后把整间组屋出租，回去神州遥控当寓公，多写意、多自在，现在一切都收紧了，怎么不“干”声冲天呢？
李叶明耍弄小聪明，坏就坏在只把自己局限在他的小圈子里，对于外面的事知之甚少，行动党神话开始在分崩离析也不知情。比如他说：
原因我在《刘程强在说什么？》一文中已经提到很多了。比如，工人党主张冻结外劳，是不是一个极端方案？为什么要不顾一切反对外来人口？经济增长真的不重要吗？工人党主张进一步调低经济增长，一面又主张提高工资，他们是否意识到这两者之间的矛盾呢？
还有最关键的“战后婴儿潮”问题。从你们主张增加居民人口的就业参与率，提出所谓每年挖掘多1%的本地劳动力，就可以看出你们对“战后婴儿潮”问题完全失忆，没有意识到整百万新加坡人将在未来十多年内达到退休年龄。新加坡正面对人口迅速老化的危机！……
自以为提的这些大哉问，都有个标准答案（PAP的答案），其实只要去听一听2月16日芳林公园集会上的发言，特别是梁实轩、陈钦亮、陈如斯几位，就不难发现：1、冻结外劳根本不是什么极端的方案。2、没有人说过要不顾一切反对外来人口。3、新加坡要永续生存和发展，的确还有比经济增长更重要的东西。4、调低增长和改善低收入者的收入，两者并没有矛盾。
李叶明谈到“战后婴儿潮”更是荒腔走板，令人笑破肚皮，完全照搬白皮书自己都不消化的那一段。请问李叶明：新加坡人还有退休年龄吗？什么叫做“整百万新加坡人将在未来十多年内达到退休年龄”？建议他去听听梁实轩在芳林演讲的结束段，最后梁实轩问与会者：“新加坡有退休金吗？”大声回答“没有！”“新加坡有福利吗？”大声回答：“没有！”“新加坡有津贴吗？”大声回答：“没有！”“那（政府）还会有什么负担？”陈钦亮更以自身的经验，认为上一代的老人家（战后出世）都还过得去（当然不是每一位啦），现在反而是年轻一代负担不起，转向爸妈要求财政上的援助。
李叶明说：“我想，刘先生如果忘记了一个传统的移民社会应有怎样的胸怀，不妨参考一下孙先生的说法。何必非要把新公民视为威胁、视为对新加坡人核心的稀释呢？他们为什么不能是对新加坡人核心的加强？”（《走出悲情，拥抱未来》……“原来刘程强也知道，在建国时，多数新加坡人也是移民，是后来才变成‘道地的新加坡人’。那为什么新公民不可以呢？是新公民在本地生活的年数不会逐年递增？还是新加坡必须得再建国一次，才有机会成为‘道地的新加坡人’？为什么刘程强认为，作为一个传统的移民社会，新加坡连每年增加不到1%的新公民都难以接纳、无法磨合？”（《刘程强在说什么？》）
眼明的读者到这里一定看得出，刘程强担心的恰恰是这类李叶明们来稀释和重新定义新加坡的核心，到时他们人多势众，说不定得按他们的“加强”看法来办事。
为什么李叶明要不断强调“本来是移民社会”、“传统的移民社会”呢？就是要取得一种心理上的优势：咬定他跟土生土长的新加坡人比，也不过是先来后到的差别而已。况且他还是来自许多土生土长新加坡人祖先的发源地。这种情况在其他字牌的新移民身上都没有看到，或许这跟在红旗下生长的残忍制度有关吧？
五十年前是移民社会的新加坡，经过四十几年的建国，难道还会一直继续是移民社会，凭什么你可以说得这样理直气壮？哦，就是为了方便这些中字牌不断的到来，让他们名正言顺，不吃半点亏。就是基于这样的逻辑，他们心底上是诚心希望新加坡永远是一个驿站，好让他们可以自由地往返寄居地和“祖国”之间。不谙英语的第一代就在这里站稳脚跟，然后第二代喝了这里的半洋墨水就展翅高飞……如意算盘是打得价响。
所以像李叶明（强调哦，像李叶明）这种中字牌新移民，根本没打算融入（等别人来融入他），他甚至不关心新加坡社会上正在发生着的事，也不知道现在有多少议题在新加坡人之间流传，只是一心想把辩论辩赢了，半秒钟也没有想过和土生土长的新加坡同胞同呼吸，知道他们的焦虑和热望。曝露出来，他恰好就是土生土长新加坡人最忌讳的典型，这类人如果继续获得官媒的助力，最终将侵蚀新加坡的“核心价值”，把它搞得不伦不类。
我劝李叶明有空去找出《三国志·魏书》有关杨修的故事来读一读。大家都是千年狐狸，还搞什么聊斋嘛！
另：能够得到刘程强的回应，李叶明的肾上腺素简直爆表，欣喜若狂，且看他假矜持偏于当庭卖弄：
solution very simple, get rid of more than half of PAP in parliament and problem solved.
New citizen Li Yeming files police report against netizens
http://www.tremeritus.com/2013/02/23/new-citizen-li-yeming-files-police-report-against-netizens/
New citizen Li Yeming from PRC has filed a police report against netizens who he says have falsely accused him of making anti-Singapore postings on the Net.
He said he did not post certain Weibo microblog postings, such as, “I will send an army over to flatten your home (Singapore)!”
He also said in his police report that he did not make postings, “stating that I scolded Singaporean(s), threatened to flatten Singapore and also commented on how lazy Singaporeans are”.
The police have confirmed that Li filed a report yesterday (22 Feb), a day after he tendered his resignation to the Singapore Federation of Chinese Clan Associations (SFCCA) from his position as vice-chairman of SFCCA’s research and publications committee.
Li told the Straits Times that he hopes the police can ferret out those netizens who started the fake postings.
He said he wants to set the record straight so as “not to affect relations between local-born and new citizens”.
Even though he has also received many nasty comments from netizens, he said “their reaction is understandable”.
He told the Straits Times yesterday, “If they thought I had scolded a Singaporean MP while making anti-Singapore comments online, I don’t blame them for being upset. But we can’t let rumours affect our harmony here.”
Notice that he used the phrase “a Singaporean MP” instead of “an MP” or “our MP”.
The saga started when Li wrote to Zaobao accusing Workers’ Party (WP) Member of Parliament (MP) Mr Low Thia Khiang and WP of “fanning anti-foreigner and anti-immigrant sentiments during the White Paper debate”.
Mr Low rebutted him in Zaobao, categorically denying the accusation. Mr Low said he was shocked that Li had accused him of “inciting xenophobia”. Mr Low said Li had selectively interpreted his speech and the WP’s parliamentary proposal. Li later accused Mr Low of taking his words out of context.
To make matters worse, Li responded in a harsh way when a Facebook user kindly showed him angry responses from Singaporean netizens. Li asked:
Not surprisingly, Singaporean netizens were angry with Li’s irresponsible remarks and accusations. Some, including TR Emeritus (TRE), have written to SFCCA for clarification (‘TRE asks SFCCA about its stand on Li Yeming‘). Others even called the federation to scold the secretariat.
The incident resulted in Li’s tendering his resignation from his post with SFCCA. He later told the media he was criticising Mr Low in his personal capacity and not on behalf of the federation.
He said, “I don’t want to bring more trouble to the federation. I am sorry for the bad impression created of the federation.”
Meanwhile, Federation president Chua Thian Poh told the media last night that the research and publications committee is “looking into Mr Li’s resignation”.
Mr Chua also confirmed that Li’s views are his own and they do not represent the federation’s view.
Mr Chua did not comment further on Li’s matter or the White Paper.
SFCCA has invited Minister Grace Fu to talk about the White Paper in a forum on 28 February (‘Now, SFCCA invites Grace Fu to talk about White Paper!‘).
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http://www.tremeritus.com/2013/02/23/new-citizen-li-yeming-files-police-report-against-netizens/
New citizen Li Yeming from PRC has filed a police report against netizens who he says have falsely accused him of making anti-Singapore postings on the Net.
He said he did not post certain Weibo microblog postings, such as, “I will send an army over to flatten your home (Singapore)!”
He also said in his police report that he did not make postings, “stating that I scolded Singaporean(s), threatened to flatten Singapore and also commented on how lazy Singaporeans are”.
The police have confirmed that Li filed a report yesterday (22 Feb), a day after he tendered his resignation to the Singapore Federation of Chinese Clan Associations (SFCCA) from his position as vice-chairman of SFCCA’s research and publications committee.
Li told the Straits Times that he hopes the police can ferret out those netizens who started the fake postings.
He said he wants to set the record straight so as “not to affect relations between local-born and new citizens”.
Even though he has also received many nasty comments from netizens, he said “their reaction is understandable”.
He told the Straits Times yesterday, “If they thought I had scolded a Singaporean MP while making anti-Singapore comments online, I don’t blame them for being upset. But we can’t let rumours affect our harmony here.”
Notice that he used the phrase “a Singaporean MP” instead of “an MP” or “our MP”.
The saga started when Li wrote to Zaobao accusing Workers’ Party (WP) Member of Parliament (MP) Mr Low Thia Khiang and WP of “fanning anti-foreigner and anti-immigrant sentiments during the White Paper debate”.
Mr Low rebutted him in Zaobao, categorically denying the accusation. Mr Low said he was shocked that Li had accused him of “inciting xenophobia”. Mr Low said Li had selectively interpreted his speech and the WP’s parliamentary proposal. Li later accused Mr Low of taking his words out of context.
To make matters worse, Li responded in a harsh way when a Facebook user kindly showed him angry responses from Singaporean netizens. Li asked:
Not surprisingly, Singaporean netizens were angry with Li’s irresponsible remarks and accusations. Some, including TR Emeritus (TRE), have written to SFCCA for clarification (‘TRE asks SFCCA about its stand on Li Yeming‘). Others even called the federation to scold the secretariat.
The incident resulted in Li’s tendering his resignation from his post with SFCCA. He later told the media he was criticising Mr Low in his personal capacity and not on behalf of the federation.
He said, “I don’t want to bring more trouble to the federation. I am sorry for the bad impression created of the federation.”
Meanwhile, Federation president Chua Thian Poh told the media last night that the research and publications committee is “looking into Mr Li’s resignation”.
Mr Chua also confirmed that Li’s views are his own and they do not represent the federation’s view.
Mr Chua did not comment further on Li’s matter or the White Paper.
SFCCA has invited Minister Grace Fu to talk about the White Paper in a forum on 28 February (‘Now, SFCCA invites Grace Fu to talk about White Paper!‘).
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These new citizens are here to make a fast buck. This Li guy had to take up citizenships because he took up job in high profile organizations. Now, he is ready to give up citizenship to return to China, claiming that he has done great things in sinkapore to secure a cushy job in China.
This fucking bastard Li Yeming, a PRC communist is here to stir shit and he should go back to where he came from!
I would rather sleep with a stray dog than to assimilate with this fucking bastard communist dog and all of his kind!
The PAP govt has obviously sold away S'pore.
If the police side with him I won't bother to call 999 anymore
This type of shit head would not be here for a long time. In their heart, they will always see themselves as PRCs and will return back to China one day.
Most of them are ungrateful ingrate.
Their women were the first to come and cheat our old men of their CPF money. Thats why forummer like Equalisation should be grateful that they cannot withdraw their CPF at age 55 :p
All the citizenships given to PRC and India's Indians should be revoked. These two groups can easily get back their homeland's citizenship.
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