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Philippine SWAT Team storm bus with hostages in Manila

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Former police officer Rolando Mendoza looks out of a window of a bus carrying tourist hostages at Quirino Grandstand in Manila
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The Filipino hostage (driver) runs to escape from the bus
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Relatives of dismissed police captain Rolando Mendoza wave as they try to convince him to surrender
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A hostage negotiator hands over food for the passengers
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A police sniper takes position
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The tour guide Masa is handcuffed as he is shown at the door of the bus by Mendoza
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A plainclothes police officer receives papers as he negotiates with Mendoza
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Police smash a window of the hijacked vehicle
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Police use a sledge hammer to gain entry to the bus. One could see that the tour guide was already dead at the bus door
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SWAT team members prepare to assault the tourist bus
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The body of former police officer Rolando Mendoza hangs from the glass door of the tourist bus following an assault by police and SWAT teams
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Rescue units wheel away the body of Rolando Mendoza
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A hostage is taken to hospital following an assault on the bus by police and a SWAT team
 

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look it u who dont have common knowledge. It a closed up and full of hostages envoirment, it not advisable to use a rifle as the length of the rifle will impeded movement.The 5.56mm round of a M16 can pentrate a human body so even the polis successfully shot the hostage taker, the bullet will exit his body and accidently hit a hostage. So the best is to use a MP5 submachine gun and the Beretta pistol which both use the 9mm round.

seeing the pinoy polis use M16s and Colt.45 pistols make me confirm they are not specialised polis trained for hostage situations.
you're right, the filipina polis are untrained, their attempt with any form or firearms would've jeopardized more lives. they should just send Jackie
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maybe the hostage taker would drop his weapon & ask for autograph instead.
 

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So ya-ya gelek gelek some more, can pose to look relac-one-korner and cool if the Press can take photo from this angle how came there was no police sniper positioned to take the gunman out from the same spot?:oIo:

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Former police officer Rolando Mendoza looks out of a window of a bus carrying tourist hostages at Quirino Grandstand in Manila
 
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Nonsense..! Every gun leaves its own distinct barrel markings on the bullet.. as long as the pistols and M16 used by the hijacker can be obtained and samples of bullets fired from its barrels, these weapon's bullets can be compared back to those found on the victims..

The Forensics team should be up to the mark if the findings are to be accurate..... Given the incompetency of the pinoy police...... I dun expect their forensics to be any better...... they most probably will screw up and mixed up all the evidence. :biggrin:
 

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Talking of the rise and fall of nations, Pinoyland is a good example. The country was one of the most prosperous nations in Asia up to the early 70s. At that time Manila was the financial centre of Asia and bankers & computer professionals from Sinkapore have to go there for training.

Pinoyland prospered because of 1 man...... Ferdinand Marcos. :smile:
Then he and his cronies got greedy and the rest was history....... here in Singkieland we see the same story being mirrored.

Singkieland prospered because of 1 man...... Lee Gong Yaw. :smile:
Then he and his cronies got greedy and Singkieland is now experiencing what the pinoy population went through during the last years of the Marcos regime. :rolleyes:

Who will be Singkieland's Aquino? :biggrin:
 

allanlee

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Re: Plane carrying 8 bodies arrives in HK

Exactly. Singapore has strict no-negotiation policy. Just kill them.

The commandoes would not be told about what's up. Only the commander officers.

The commanding officers assess and order the commandoes what to do and they carry out orders.

In case police is deploy, of it's SOC (former PTF) instead of SAF commandoes.

Who decide who to deploy, of course the ministers.

Who decide who are the ministers, of course the voters.


Do they still follow religiously to the doctrine - "TAKE NO PRISONERS, LEAVE NO SURVIVORS".

I thought there were some policy changes after more than half the troopers involved in the storming of SQ 117 quitted the SOF.
 

allanlee

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Re: Plane carrying 8 bodies arrives in HK

In this case, reinstate this bonker as a senior police officer?

Why not? Singkieland had done it before....... he even went on to became the CP and was made an Ambassador to a neighbouring country when he eventually retired from the SPF. :p
 

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Pinoyland prospered because of 1 man...... Ferdinand Marcos. :smile:
Then he and his cronies got greedy and the rest was history....... here in Singkieland we see the same story being mirrored.

Have to disagree. Pinoyland prospered because of the Yankees. Marcos happened to be the president during that time and screwed up the whole country with his insatiable greed.
 

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08/25/10

MANILA, Philippine – Hong Kong would not retaliate after Monday’s hostage crisis where eight of its people were killed, action superstar Jackie ChanJackie Chan said.

The actor said, “HK is a nation built by a lot of different people...don’t worry! We do not hate!” This statement was verified in his Twitter account.

“This kind of things always happens around the world. It happens to HK’s people. The whole HK is talking about it. It’s really sad.”

“If they killed the guy sooner, they will say why not negotiate first? If they negotiate first, they ask why not kill the guy sooner? So sad.”


Everyone here ...Is this asshole worth bash up ?

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Philippine chief superintendent Rodolfo Magtibay (R) answers questions regarding the August 23 tourist bus hostage-taking incident that left eight Hong Kong tourists dead during a Senate committee hearing in Manila on August 26, 2010. The Philippines on August 25 suspended four police officers over the hostage crisis amid outrage over a myriad of mistakes in the chaotic end to the stand-off. The policeman in charge of the hostage rescue, chief superintendent Rodolfo Magtibay, has taken leave.​
 

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Philippines Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) commander, chief inspector Santiago Pascual (L), sits next to senior inspector Joselito Binayug (R), the policemen in the alleged torture video filmed at a Manila police station earlier this month, during a Senate committee hearing regarding the August 23 tourist bus hostage-taking incident that left eight Hong Kong tourists dead and the alleged human rights violations seen on the torture video in Manila on August 26, 2010. Pascual and three other team leaders of the Manila police SWAT are suspended over the hostage crisis amid outrage over a myriad of mistakes in the chaotic end to the stand-off. The policeman in charge of the hostage rescue, chief superintendent Rodolfo Magtibay, has taken leave.

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Philippines Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) commander, chief inspector Santiago Pascual, answers questions regarding the August 23 tourist bus hostage-taking incident that left eight Hong Kong tourists dead during a Senate committee hearing in Manila on August 26, 2010.​
 

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'Someone failed, someone will pay,' Aquino said. -- PHOTO: REUTERS

MANILA - THE Philippine president vowed on Thursday that 'someone will pay' for the bus hostage crisis that killed Hong Kong tourists as senators began grilling senior police officers over the deadly fiasco.

Addressing students and teachers at a suburban university, President Benigno Aquino III said the nearly 12-hour hostage-taking drama on Monday was 'ghastly' and admitted there were 'many failures', but stopped short of directly blaming the police.

'What happened should not happen again,' he said. 'Someone failed, someone will pay.' At the Senate investigation, Manila police chief Rodolfo Magtibay said he gave the order to assault the bus carrying a Hong Kong tour guide and 20 tourists after hearing shots following a breakdown in the negotiations with the hostage-taker.
 

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Philippines Special Weapons and Tactics commander chief inspector Santiago Pascual looks like chief security guard at my place
 

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Addressing students and teachers at a suburban university, President Benigno Aquino III said the nearly 12-hour hostage-taking drama on Monday was 'ghastly' and admitted there were 'many failures', but stopped short of directly blaming the police.

He should hv told them also that taking group photo at the scene is a shameful act
 

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President Of The Philippines Benigno 'NoyNoy' Aquino

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Future president ? : Boxer and politician Manny Pacquiao

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They arrested the brother of the hijacker for conspiracy. Wonder why the brother was allowed to be one of the hostage negotiator, he could be passing information to the hijacker. Any news/photo about what happen to the brother?
 

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Police: Lim ordered arrest of hijacker's brother
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MANILA – A relieved police chief said during a Senate probe Thursday that Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim ordered the arrest of the hostage-taker's brother at the height of the crisis in Quirino Grandstand last Monday.
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Philippine President Benigno Aquino (R) shakes hands with Manila mayor Alfredo Lim (L)

Chief Superintendent Rodolfo Magtibay, who was relieved from Manila Police District (MPD) after "failing miserably" in handling the crisis, said Lim ordered the arrest of Senior Police Officer 2 Gregorio Mendoza for allegedly conspiring with his brother.

Gregorio is the younger brother of dismissed police officer Rolando Mendoza, who held 20 Hong Kong tourists at a historic Manila park, demanding reinstatement.

Magtibay was apparently forced to name the Manila mayor following repeated questioning of Senator Ramon "Bong” Revilla Jr.

Gregorio said in a television interview early Thursday that it was Lim who ordered his arrest.

Lim, however, denied the claim saying: "Ang sabi ko lang, dalhin na yan sa (MPD) headquarter (I just told them to bring Mendoza to MPD headquarter)."

The mayor said that Magtibay repeatedly said in his previous statement that he was taking responsibility for the entire incident. "He seemed to be singing a different tune," Lim said.

"Magtibay’s press conference will speak for itself. He said that the buck stops with him. I’m surprised why he’s answering differently to the same question now," said Lim.

For his part, Vice Mayor Isko Moreno said that Lim directed him to check with the authorities on the situation at the Quirino Grandstand and see what the local government can do to help.

Moreno said that after Magtibay ordered for Gregorio to be brought to the headquarters, the situation was very calm as the police escort even casually told Gregorio, "halika na (Let's go)."

To everybody’s surprise however, Gregorio ran to where the media converged and started creating a scene.

Initially, he assisted the authorities, particularly the negotiators in seeking the end to the standoff.

Gregorio was allowed to see his brother, accompanied by two negotiators, when a letter from the Ombudsman was delivered to the disgruntled suspect at the height of the hostage crisis in Quirino Grandstand.

Instead of appeasing his brother, Gregorio however disappointed the negotiators when he told his brother, "Tol, huwag ka munang bibigay dahil di pa nila sina-uli ang baril ko (Brother, do not surrender to them. They have not yet returned my hand gun)."

Magtibay also told the Senate inquiry that with Lim’s order, he directed his men to escort Gregorio to the police headquarters but unfortunately his relatives intervened and resisted the police order.

The ensuing commotion was shown live on national television and reported on the radio and this was seen, as admitted by the tourist bus driver, and agitated the hostage-taker who threatened he would start shooting his captives.

Moments later, shots were heard from inside the bus at the Quirino Grandstand forcing the MPD Special Weapons and Tactics (Swat) team to assault the vehicle triggering the firefight.

But it took nearly an hour for the Swat team to gain entry to the bus as Mendoza fired at them repeatedly using his M-16 rifle.

Rolando Mendoza released several children and elderly hostages early on, but later opened fire on the remaining hostages. Eight people were killed before a police sniper took him out.

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Senators also questioned Local Government Secretary Jesse Robredo for his "non-participation" in the hostage crisis.

Robredo explained that he was in the site but left the negotiation to the proper authorities than personally intervening in the talks.

Magtibay was likewise hit by the lawmakers for the poor performance of the Swat team, citing the "over delayed" assault and ill-equipped operatives that conducted the assault.

He was also criticized for not using the Special Action Force (SAF) operatives despite being in the area and insisted the utilization of the MPD Swat team.

“I believed the MPD Swat team can find ways to carry out properly the operations,” Magtibay said.

He admitted that Swat operatives failed to bring their gas masks when they assaulted the bus.

Senator Jinggoy Estrada lambasted Magtibay for using the Swat team to assault and try to rescue the hostages despite their lack of proper equipment.

Among equipment missing are armor vest, Kevlar helmets, night vision goggles, gas masks and even such simple tools as breaching equipment and ladder.

Earlier, National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) Director Leocadio Santiago, who was also at the probe, admitted that the SAF could have better handled the job than the Swat.

Senator Revilla also questioned the negotiation team's negation on the demands of the suspect. "You can give all and offer anything just to rescue the hostages."

Over blame

Senator Vicente "Tito" Sotto III meantime appealed to Filipinos not to blame themselves for the botched rescue operation.

Sotto said while he was saddened by what had happened, there is no point to over blame, adding that other countries have been place in similar situations in the past.

"I’m saddened. There's this Filipino practice of self flagellation. I don’t think we should over blame ourselves for what has happened. We should not worry too much on the international repercussion," he said.

He added that Filipinos should take comfort in the words posted by renowned movie actor and Hong Kong resident Jacky Chan in his Twitter account easing the concerns about retaliation against Filipino workers there.

Also present were Police Chief Inspector Santiao Pascual, commander of the MPD's Special Weapon and Tactics; Manila Vice Mayor Moreno; representatives from the Commission on Human Rights, and broadcast journalist Erwin Tulfo. (JP/AH/AP/Sunnex)
 
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