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MALAYSIAN Airlines flight en route to China is missing.
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The Mats have no idea what is going on so they are chasing every lead.
Google image 'Paul Giamatti'.
To Chinese government : u r not better off so dun pot calling kettle black
Trust me, there's more to it than meets the eye, and the Chinese, Russian and US intelligence services are all involved in this international intrigue:
March 16, 2014
Malaysia Airlines Mystery Deepens After Top Disease Experts Rushed To Indian Ocean
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
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According to this report, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (also marketed as China Southern Airlines flight 748 through a codeshare) was a scheduled passenger flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing, China, when on 8 March this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft“disappeared” in flight with 227 passengers on board from 15 countries, most of whom were Chinese, and 12 crew members.
As we had previously noted in our report “Russia “Puzzled” Over Malaysia Airlines “Capture” By US Navy,” the GRU had previously notified China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS) of its suspicions regarding this flight due its containing a “highly suspicious” cargo that had been offloaded in the Republic of Seychelles from the US-flagged container ship MV Maersk Alabama.
First arousing the GRU’s concerns regarding this “highly suspicious” cargo, this report continues, was that after its unloading from the MV Maersk Alabama on 17 February, its then transfer to Seychelles International Airport where it was loaded on an Emirates flight bound forKuala Lumpur International Airport in Malaysia, after first stopping over in Dubai, the two highly trained US Navy SEALS who were guarding it were found dead.
The two US Navy SEALS protecting this “highly suspicious” cargo, Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, were found dead under “suspicious circumstances” aboard the MV Maersk Alabama, this report says, further raising Russian intelligence suspicions as they were both employed by the Virginia Beach, Virginia-based maritime security firm The Trident Group which was founded by US Navy Special Operations Personnel (SEAL’s) and Senior US Naval Surface Warfare Officers and has long been known by the GRU to protect vital transfers of both atomic and biological materials throughout the world.
Upon Flight 370’s departure from Malaysia on 8 March, this report continues, the GRU was notified by the MSS that they were going to divert it from its scheduled destination of Beijing to Haikou Meilan International Airport (HAK) located in Hainan Province (aka Hainan Island).
Prior to this planes entering into People Liberation Army (PLA) protected zones of the South China Sea known as the Spratly Islands, however, this report continues, Flight 370 “significantly deviated” from its flight course and was tracked by VKO satellites and radar flying into the Indian Ocean region and completing its nearly 3,447 kilometer (2,142 miles) flight to Diego Garcia.
In a confirmation of the GRU’s assertion that Flight 370 was, indeed, flown to Diego Garcia, this report says, satellite transmission data analyzed by US investigators showed that this planes most likely last-known position was in a zone about 1,609 kilometers (1,000 miles) west of Perth, Australia in the Indian Ocean..
Most troubling to the GRU about Flight 370’s “diversion” to Diego Garcia, this report says, was that it was “nearly immediately” followed by some of the top disease scientists and experts from the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CCDCP) embarking to Diego Garcia on at least four flights.
As to why both American and Chinese disease experts were taken to Diego Garcia where Flight 370 is now known to be, this report says, has as yet not been answered by either of these governments after repeated Foreign Ministry requests for “explanations and clarification.”
What is to be known, this report says, is that as Malaysia has been forced to admit Flight 370 was, indeed, “diverted” from its flight path as the GRU had previously reported, and as at least 25 nations are now involved in searching for it, it remains a mystery as to what is actually occurring.
Also known, this report concludes, is that Diego Garcia as a designated ETOPS emergency landing site for flight planning purposes of commercial airliners transversing the Indian Ocean, and as one of 33 emergency landing sites worldwide for the NASA Space Shuttle, it is“inconceivable” that any type of aircraft, let alone Flight 370, can fly anywhere in the Southern Hemisphere without being tracked, monitored and recorded in totality.
no faith in whities also lah.
just look at mrt breakdowns on land.
if in the air, hahaha
The "shadow SIA plane" is gaining currency, CNN mentioned it.
Missing Malaysia Airlines jet could have landed on any large flat area, say experts
PUBLISHED : Monday, 17 March, 2014, 11:41pm
UPDATED : Tuesday, 18 March, 2014, 8:16am
Stephen Chen in Beijing [email protected]
The number of suitable landing sites that could have been used by a pilot to touch down the missing Malaysia Airlines flight could far exceed estimates of 600 quoted in foreign media, Chinese engineering and aviation experts said last night.
Based on the Boeing 777's potential flight time, one popular list shared on the internet showed the locations of 634 airfields in 26 countries where the plane could have touched down, in an area stretching from Pakistan to Japan and Australia.
But within that vast area, there could be tens of thousands more locations suitable for landing a jet, if pilot expertise and wide open spaces were taken into account, experts said.
Speculation that the plane is still intact and landed safely has been swirling in the absence of any evidence that it crashed, despite a 10-day hunt.
The WNYC radio station compiled the list of airstrips which was quickly picked up online.
Professor Gao Peiwei, who studies rapid construction and repairing technology for runways at Nanjing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics, said a Boeing 777 could be put down in various environments - even on highways and dirt strips - if the pilots had "knowledge and training for the specific location".
Based on the Boeing 777's potential flight time, one popular list shared on the internet showed the locations of 634 airfields in 26 countries where the missing MH370 could have touched down.
To receive an inbound 777 in a state of emergency, an airstrip would normally need to meet several requirements, he said.
The surface of the runway, be it cement or dirt, must be hardened to take the weight of the jet's wheels and be long enough to allow for adequate braking.
"But of course, you can also land on a relatively soft surface and brace yourself for big bumps, if you don't care whether the landing gear or the plane can fly again," Gao said.
Any relatively large and flat area without high hills or tall buildings immediately in front of it could be used as a landing area, potentially adding tens of thousands more locations to the list.
"Large airports are equipped with sophisticated communications systems and supportive facilities such as lighting to make sure that every take-off and landing would be successful. If the purpose was to land the plane once and for all, most facilities are not necessary," Gao said.
One possibility to explain the disappearance of flight MH370 is that it landed at a private airstrip or on a military base and for political or other reasons, its arrival has not been made public.
"This is a wild guess, but with the information released by Malaysian authorities, anything is possible," Gao added.
Yang Xiaoguang, an aeronautics scientist at the Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics, agreed with Gao that it was feasible the plane had landed on a small or temporary airstrip.
But he said it would take at least six months of work on the ground to prepare a suitable strip that could safely take such a huge aircraft. "You would need quite a few workers and machines to even the ground, if the site was chosen at a remote area," he said.
"To carry out such a task without it being detected is hard to believe, but that's the best we can hope for the passengers on board and their families."
Yang said contradictions between the Malaysians' early statements on the plane's disappearance and their more recent comments had made the Chinese aviation community suspicious that not all relevant information had been made public.
"We have a strong feeling that some information has been held back," he said.
Fresh confusion over Malaysia Airlines jet as authorities reveal new possible timeline of cockpit events
Hunt expands deep into northern and southern hemispheres
PUBLISHED : Monday, 17 March, 2014, 11:42pm
UPDATED : Tuesday, 18 March, 2014, 11:14am
Angela Meng [email protected]
Acting Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein shows two maps with the search corridors for the missing Malaysia Airlines jet. The areas stretch from Kazakhstan to the southern Indian Ocean. Photo: Reuters
The last words heard from missing Malaysia Airlines jet may have been uttered before any of the plane's communication systems were disabled officials said last night, revealing a new possible timeline of events in the cockpit and casting further doubt about who may be to blame for the jet's disappearance.
Malaysian Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said yesterday the last communication from the plane - "All right, good night" - had been uttered by co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid.
Attempts to piece together exactly what happened in the final known moments of the aircraft came as the hunt for flight MH370 was expanded deep into the northern and southern hemispheres.
Investigators say the Boeing 777 was deliberately diverted during its overnight flight and flew off-course for hours. Investigators have refused to rule out hijacking, sabotage or pilot suicide for the plane's disappearance and were last night continuing to check the backgrounds of all 227 passengers and 12 crew members - in addition to the ground crew - for personal problems, psychological issues or links to terrorists.
Despite the ongoing probe, the Chinese ambassador to Malaysia Huang Huikang this morning told a press conference that China can "rule out the suspicion of any Chinese passengers engaging in terrorist or sabotage activities on board the MH370 flight".
China "conducted meticulous investigation into all the (Chinese) passengers, and did not find any evidence for sabotaging activity," Chinese state broadcaster CCTV quoted Huang as saying.
Malaysian Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said last night that finding the plane was still the main focus, and he did not rule out that it might be discovered intact.
“The fact that there was no distress signal, no ransom notes, no parties claiming responsibility, there is always hope,” Hishammuddin said at a news conference.
Malaysian Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said yesterday that an initial investigation indicated that the last words ground controllers heard from the plane - “All right, good night” - were spoken by the co-pilot, Fariq Abdul Hamid.
A voice other than that of Fariq or the pilot, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, would have been clearest indication yet of something amiss in the cockpit before the flight went off-course.
Malaysian officials had earlier said that the words came after one of the jetliner’s data communications systems — the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) — had been switched off, suggesting the voice from the cockpit may have been trying to deceive ground controllers.
However, Ahmad said that while the last data transmission from ACARS — which transmits plane performance and maintenance information — came before that, it was still unclear at what point the system was switched off, making any implications of the timing murkier.
The new information opened the possibility that both ACARS and the plane’s transponders, which make the plane visible to civilian air traffic controllers, were turned off at about the same time. It also suggests that the message delivered from the cockpit could have preceded any of the severed communications.
Malaysia yesterday appealed for help from countries with radar and satellite data, as Australia, China, Indonesia and Kazakhstan deployed military and civilian resources.
Twenty-six countries were scouring sea and land for the Boeing 777 aircraft that disappeared 10 days ago with 239 people, 154 of them Chinese, on board.
"For countries in search corridors, we are requesting radar and satellite information, as well as specific assets for the search and rescue operation," Malaysia's acting transport minister, Hishammuddin Hussein, said. "We are asking them to share their land, sea and aerial search and rescue action plans with the Rescue Coordination Centre here in Malaysia, so that we can coordinate the search effort."
Chinese Premier Li Keqiang asked during a phone call with Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak that Malaysian officials provide more detailed and accurate information and better coordinate with all parties, according to the Chinese government website.
China has merchant ships, as well as other vessels, involved in the search and has mobilised additional planes and 21 satellites. Australia has dispatched three additional military aircraft, and the US has sent one more aircraft to join the search. French investigators joined Chinese aviation officials to work with Malaysia Airlines and the nation's Department of Civil Aviation.
At least one aviation expert called the scope of the search without equal in terms of area, the number of personnel and equipment deployed, and the number of countries directly or indirectly involved.
"As far as we know the scale of the search for MH370 is indeed unprecedented,'' said Harro Ranter, president of Aviation Safety Network, a non-profit group that tracks aircraft accidents. "Searches may have lasted a long period of time - like Air France 447 [in 2009] and an Adam Air B737 in 2007 - but search parties did have a broad idea of where to look since debris had been located."
After more than a week of anger and confusion voiced by passengers' families who have faulted the accuracy of information shared by officials, Malaysian authorities said the country had been co-operating with the FBI, Interpol, and other international law-enforcement agencies since day one.
"Our priority has always been to find the aircraft," Hishammuddin said. "But we also have a responsibility not to release information until it has been verified by the international investigations team. It would be irresponsible to deploy substantial assets merely on the basis of unverified and uncorroborated information."
On Sunday, Najib called off the week-long search for wreckage in the South China Sea and other areas on MH370's scheduled flight path after satellite data showed that the plane had turned sharply westward. Najib called the plane's disappearance a "deliberate act".
Suspicion has fallen on the pilots because of their aviation experience. Investigators have not ruled out hijacking, sabotage, pilot suicide or mass murder, and are checking the backgrounds of all 227 passengers and 12 crew members, as well as the ground crew, to see if links to terrorists, personal problems or psychological issues could be factors.
Additional reporting by Associated Press
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Hands on the deck
Twenty-six countries are now involved in the massive international search for the Malaysia Airlines jet that disappeared on March 8 with 239 people on board. They include not just military assets on land, at sea and in the air, but also investigators and the specific support and assistance requested by Malaysia, such as radar and satellite information.
Here’s a look at major countries and their response:
MALAYSIA
Malaysia, which is co-ordinating the search, has deployed about 18 aircraft and 27 ships, including the submarine support vessel MV Mega Bakti, which can detect objects at a depth of up to 1,000 metres.
AUSTRALIA
Australia has sent two AP-3C Orion aircraft, one of which is searching the waters to the north and west of the Cocos Islands in the southern Indian Ocean, and plans to deploy two more. Prime Minister Tony Abbott said that all Australian agencies “are scouring their data to see if there’s anything they can add to the understanding of this mystery”.
CHINA
An official with the Chinese Civil Aviation Authority says the missing plane did not enter Chinese airspace. The Chinese defence ministry and foreign ministry didn’t immediately respond to questions on radar information. China has deployed nine navy ships and civilian patrol vessels and a variety of fixed-wing and rotary aircraft, along with a team of experts dispatched to Malaysia.
UNITED STATES
A P-8A Poseidon, the most advanced long-range antisubmarine and anti-surface warfare aircraft in the world, has been searching the Indian Ocean. The US Navy has also deployed the destroyer USS Kidd with two MH-60R helicopters.
INDONESIA
Indonesian Air Force spokesman Hadi Tjahjanto says military radars on Sumatra Island found no trace of the jet and that data requested by the Malaysian government has been handed over. He says that search efforts have shifted from the Strait of Malacca to the corridor stretching from northern Sumatra to the Indian Ocean.
PAKISTAN
The head of the Pakistan Civil Aviation Authoritysays radar recordings shared with Malaysia found no sign of the jet.
INDIA
India put its search operations in the Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal on hold at weekend but continues to coordinate with Malaysia about possible new search areas.
OTHERS
Other nations involved are Thailand, Bangladesh, Brunei, France, Japan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Myanmar, New Zealand, the Philippines, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Britain, Uzbekistan and Vietnam.
Associated Press
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Three million people join crowdsourcing satellite hunt for missing Malaysia Airlines jet
PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 18 March, 2014, 11:48am
UPDATED : Tuesday, 18 March, 2014, 12:13pm
Agence France-Presse in Washington
Students walk past a giant mural featuring missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 displayed on the grounds of their school in Manila. Three million people have joined an effort led by a satellite operator to locate the missing Malaysia Airlines plane. Photo: AFP
Three million people have joined an effort led by a satellite operator to locate the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, in what may be the largest crowdsourcing project of its kind.
The satellite firm DigitalGlobe said on Monday that its search area now has some 24,000 square kilometres and that more images are being added daily, including a new area in the Indian Ocean.
The company said more than three million people have participated in the programme, with some 257 million “map views” and 2.9 million areas “tagged” by participants.
The plane went missing early on March 8 with 239 passengers and crew aboard, spawning a massive international search across Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean that has turned up no trace of wreckage.
Malaysia's acting Transport Minister Hishamuddin Hussein shows maps of the northern search corridor. Photo: AP
DigitalGlobe activated its crowdsourcing platform called Tomnod on March 11, inviting the public to look at the imagery from its five high-definition satellites to help in the search.
The response was so great it overloaded the system’s computers for a time last week.
The company uses an algorithm called CrowdRank to determine the most promising leads, paying close attention to overlap where people tagged the same location.
“DigitalGlobe’s expert analysts will examine the tags to identify the top 10 or so most notable areas and share the information with customers and authorities,” a statement said.
“DigitalGlobe has direct contact with the US government and there is close and continuous coordination on this and many other world events.”
Largest in history?
Although no definitive records are kept on crowdsourcing, this effort is likely one of the largest in history, and Digital Globe said it was bigger than the relief effort for Typhoon Haiyan last November in the Philippines.
“There are projects with as many people but perhaps not in as short a time span as this,” said Lea Shanley, a researcher who studies crowdsourcing at the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars.
“While this crowdsourced effort is unlikely to find the missing Malaysia Flight 370, it may help to identify where the aircraft is not located, thus saving critical time for the professional image analysts and responders.”
The search turned up no definitive evidence, but conversation among the volunteer searchers was robust. Several claimed to have located a plane.
“Looks like a plane shape, but i doubt. Similar shape in map-tile 112075, also near by river..think this is drowned trees,” wrote one person identified as Rasande Tyskar Youness Mikou.
Another using the moniker Alice von Malice responded, “Youness, it looks a bit too small, but definitely shaped like a plane.”
Several people tagged an area that appeared to have floating seats and debris.
Other searchers said they located what appeared to be a plane, a boat, oil slicks and even “a Jesus statue.” Some pointed to what appeared to be large numbers of oil slicks.
Some volunteers pointed out that the satellites are not like surveillance cameras with a constant video feed of the Earth’s surface but only take snapshots of segments, meaning they would have to get lucky to find the missing Boeing 777.
Science by crowdsourcing
While crowdsourcing is seen as a means for hotel and restaurant reviews on sites like Yelp, scientists have found ways to use the power of many sets of eyes and ears.
A study released last week found volunteer counters who examined Nasa lunar images did just as well in identifying individual craters as scientists with five to 50 years of experience.
Stuart Robbins of the University of Colorado, who led the study, said it provides “evidence that we can use the power of crowdsourcing to gather more reliable data from the moon than we ever thought was possible before.”
Shanley said that while crowdsourcing was used mainly in the commercial sector, it has come into wider use for public efforts such as disasters.
Crowdsourcing may have helped responders in 2012 after Superstorm Sandy in the eastern US and was also used during the devastating 2010 Haiti earthquake. But crowdsourcing also pointed in the wrong direction after last year’s Boston Marathon bombings.
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In a crisis response, Shanley said, “you’re dealing with very big data sets, and there’s a lot of noise that needs to be filtered out.”
She said effective use of crowdsourcing needs hefty computing power which can separate good leads from bad ones, and that this is improving.
Shanley noted that crowdsourcing in the public sector is evolving from simply reporting data - such as the US Geological Survey’s “did you feel it?” campaign for earthquakes - to more analytics by the crowd.
“As technology improves we are seeing people moving to get volunteers helping with data analysis, and with problem solving,” she said.
even courtney love is looking for the plane... :o
http://blog.sfgate.com/loaded/2014/03/17/courtney-love-claims-to-have-found-missing-plane/
http://blog.sfgate.com/loaded/2014/03/17/courtney-love-claims-to-have-found-missing-plane/
Beijing rules out sabotage by MH370's Chinese passengers, sends ships to Indian Ocean locations
PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 18 March, 2014, 11:27am
UPDATED : Tuesday, 18 March, 2014, 2:14pm
Adrian Wan in Kuala Lumpur and Stephen Chen in Beijing
Chinese ambassador to Malaysia Huang Huikang, inset against a picture of Chinese Navy's missile frigate "Mianyang". Photo: Xinhua
No individuals or groups had raised any political demands over the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, said China's ambassador to Malaysia on Tuesday.
Ambassador Huang Huikang also said that China had ruled out the possibility of terrorist or sabotage activity by any of its 153 nationals on board the Boeing 777-200ER, which cut off communication with controllers and fell off civilian radar screens in the early hours of March 8 while en route from Kualua Lumpur to Beijing.
China had "conducted meticulous investigation into all the (Chinese) passengers, and did not find any evidence of sabotage activity," Huang told a press briefing in Kuala Lumpur on Tuesday morning.
As the search enters its 10th day, China is focusing on eliminating one of the possible "corridors" where the missing plane might have flown to and landed, Huang said.
"The key now is to narrow the search area and eliminate one of the two corridors," Huang said, adding that China had started searching the areas where the northern corridor falls within Chinese territory.
A helicopter takes off from Chinese Navy's warship Jinggangshan to search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 in this March 11, 2014 photo. Photo: Reuters/China News Service
Malaysian authorities said on Sunday that the plane's last satellite contact - at 8.11am on March 8 - revealed it flew more than seven hours after dropping off civilian radar. Two flight corridors are now the focus of the search - one from northern Thailand to Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan and a southern corridor from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean.
Meanwhile, China said it was dispatching its military and civilian ships taking part in the maritime search to two suspected locations in the Indian Ocean as of 8am on Tuesday morning.
“There are major changes in our search strategy and plans due to the change of situations. The forces will head in two opposite directions, one northward and the other southward, starting today," a press official at the China Maritime Search and Rescue Centre in Beijing told the Post on Tuesday morning.
But she declined to reveal further details, saying "the intelligence is constantly changing, so is the arrangement."
A story in the PLA Daily, official newspaper of the Chinese military, said the Chinese military and civilian ships searching the Bay of Thailand in the past week had ended a standby and were heading to Singapore for regrouping and preparation before they sail to the two new search locations in the Indian Ocean.
A map by China Communication News shows the two new search areas for Chinese vessels in the operation to locate the missing MH370. Photo: China Communication News
China Communication News said on Tuesday that four Chinese ships and three helicopters from the fleet were charged with searching a 120,000-square-kilometre area in the Bay of Bengal, west of the Andaman Islands, and another five ships and three helicopters would focus on a 180,000-square-kilometre, narrow stretch of waters southwest of Indonesia's Sumatra and Java islands.
Huang trod carefully while commenting on the investigation and search efforts led by Malaysia so far. He repeated China's frustration with the Malaysian authorities' insufficient response and information releases over the missing flight, but also praised them for their efforts.
"The Malaysian government has insufficient capabilities, technologies and experience in responding to the MH370 incident, but they did their best," Huang said at the press briefing.
"Our main problem now is that there is a chaos of information. All sorts of speculation, even rumours, are flying around, making it impossible for one to think," Huang said.
The chaos arises partly from the unprecedented mysteries surrounding the missing flight, and partly from the inexperience on the part of Malaysian authorities, he said.
Plot thickens with MH370 flight; hid under radar using SIA flight,like spy movie sia!
Could missing MH370 have stalked SIA flight to the north? Possible, say netizens
A theory that lost flight MH370 could have stalked a Barcelona-bound Singapore Airlines flight undetected by radar has emerged from online research that mirrors the massive international search and rescue operations over the past 10 days.
The theory is consistent with a flight path along an arc that ends at the Caspian Sea in the north and southern Indian Ocean in the south now being searched by at least 26 nations.
Pilots contacted by The Malaysian Insider have come up with a similar theory, saying whoever in control of the missing Boeing 777-200ER would just have to switch off all the plane's lights and follow the night to avoid visual contact.
"Once the transponders are off and the lights are dimmed, Flight MH370 becomes a ghost flight in the night sky. It can follow other planes closely or fly below them without anyone knowing.
"It will know where the other planes are from the radio chatter," one pilot told The Malaysian Insider.
The online search and calculations
A Reddit social network contributor named "Sweeperguy" and hobbyist pilot Keith Ledgerwood suggested the theory that lost Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER had shadowed the Barcelona-bound SQ68 for most of the seven hours it remained in the air.
Incidentally, Flight SQ68 is a Boeing 777-300ER, a slightly longer version of the Malaysia Airlines passenger jet by 33 feet, and travelled near MH370 when it vanished from Malaysian military radar screens at 2.15am on March 8, 2014.
The theory has been gathering chatter on pprune.org or the Professional Pilots Rumour Network and on Ledgerwoord's Tumblr microblogging site since last weekend, when Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak disclosed new search areas for the passenger jet with 239 people on board.
"I'm thinking just close behind. It's the early hours of the morning and without some intel/warning, if a radar operator noticed two primary radar returns in the same area, but had a mode 3A/C response from the other plane, it probably wouldn't draw much attention," Sweeperguy wrote in Reddit on Saturday.
Mode 3/A is used to identify each aircraft in the radar's coverage area. Mode C is used to request/report an aircraft's altitude, according to a Wikipedia entry.
Piggybacking on SQ68
According to Singapore Airlines website, flight SQ68 was scheduled to leave the republic's Changi airport at 1.05am for Barcelona, some 25 minutes after MH370 flew from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on the other direction.
"It looks like if MH370 turned after lost contact at 0130 and followed the track back over Malaysia and along the way points previously discussed, it would be in the position shown at 0215, which is 200NM NW of Penang.
"This position is only about 30NM behind the 0215 position of SQ68 which is also a 777," Sweeperguy wrote in his Reddit post, using the local Malaysian time.
Sweeperguy said if MH370 had followed SQ68 along a north-west path over India, which he speculated, the missing passenger jet would be near the SIA jetliner over Pakistan five hours from its last known position at 2.15am.
"So, by closely following SQ68 at a similar altitude and speed, it's likely that any Indian radar operator would not notice or question two closely placed primary radar returns as long as he had the expected squawk from SQ68," he added.
In his Tumblr post, Ledgerwood came to the same conclusion that flight MH370 had flown to all the navigational waypoints disclosed by the Malaysian authorities until it was near the vicinity of SQ68 at about 2.15am.
He said it became apparent that when inspecting SQ68’s flight path history that MH370 had positioned itself directly behind the SIA plane "at approximately 18:00UTC and over the next 15 minutes had been following SIA68".
MH370 undetected without transponders
"It is my belief that MH370 likely flew in the shadow of SIA68 through India and Afghanistan airspace.
"As MH370 was flying 'dark' without transponder / ADS-B output, SIA68 would have had no knowledge that MH370 was anywhere around and as it entered Indian airspace, it would have shown up as one single blip on the radar with only the transponder information of SIA68 lighting up ATC and military radar screens," Ledgerwood wrote in a post that has gone viral.
He pointed out that the SIA flight would not have detected the missing MH370 as "the Boeing 777 utilises a TCAS system for traffic avoidance; the system would ordinarily provide alerts and visualisation to pilots if another airplane was too close".
But that system only operates by receiving the transponder information from other planes and displaying it for the pilot, he said, adding "If MH370 was flying without the transponder, it would have been invisible to SIA68".
"In addition, the TCAS system onboard MH370 would have enabled the pilot(s) to easily locate and approach SIA68 over the Straits of Malacca as they appeared to have done.
"The system would have shown them the flight’s direction of travel and the altitude it was traveling which would have enabled them to perfectly time an intercept right behind the other Boeing 777," Ledgerwood said.
He said while MH370 did not follow SQ68 to Spain, it would have broken free from the shadow of the larger SIA jetliner and "could have then flown a path to it’s final landing site "such as China's Xingjiang province, Kyrgyzstan, or Turkmenistan.
"Each of these final locations would match up almost perfectly with the 7.5 hours of total flight time and trailing SIA68.
"In addition, these locations are all possibilities that are on the 'ARC' and fit with the data provided by Inmarsat from the SATCOM’s last known ping at 01:11UTC," Ledgerwood said.
No sign of MH370
Central Asian neighbours Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan said yesterday that no unidentified planes had crossed their airspace on March 8, making it unlikely that the lost Malaysia Airlines passenger jet could have diverted along a northern route via Thailand, said a Reuters report.
But the Malaysian national carrier's planes made nine regular flights to and from Europe over Kazakhstan's territory on March 8, officials said.
Aviation officials in Pakistan and India as well as Taliban militants in Afghanistan also told Reuters they knew nothing about the whereabouts of the missing plane after the search was extended into their territory from yesterday.
Malaysia has sent diplomatic notes to 14 nations requesting help for search and rescue operations, apart from radar and satellite intelligence, to piece together any trace of the missing wide-body plane.
The search for the missing jet, dubbed as an "unprecedented aviation mystery", continues today, some 240 hours after it vanished into thin air. - March 18, 2014.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/could-missing-mh370-stalked-sia-flight-north-possible-225900110.html
Could missing MH370 have stalked SIA flight to the north? Possible, say netizens
A theory that lost flight MH370 could have stalked a Barcelona-bound Singapore Airlines flight undetected by radar has emerged from online research that mirrors the massive international search and rescue operations over the past 10 days.
The theory is consistent with a flight path along an arc that ends at the Caspian Sea in the north and southern Indian Ocean in the south now being searched by at least 26 nations.
Pilots contacted by The Malaysian Insider have come up with a similar theory, saying whoever in control of the missing Boeing 777-200ER would just have to switch off all the plane's lights and follow the night to avoid visual contact.
"Once the transponders are off and the lights are dimmed, Flight MH370 becomes a ghost flight in the night sky. It can follow other planes closely or fly below them without anyone knowing.
"It will know where the other planes are from the radio chatter," one pilot told The Malaysian Insider.
The online search and calculations
A Reddit social network contributor named "Sweeperguy" and hobbyist pilot Keith Ledgerwood suggested the theory that lost Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER had shadowed the Barcelona-bound SQ68 for most of the seven hours it remained in the air.
Incidentally, Flight SQ68 is a Boeing 777-300ER, a slightly longer version of the Malaysia Airlines passenger jet by 33 feet, and travelled near MH370 when it vanished from Malaysian military radar screens at 2.15am on March 8, 2014.
The theory has been gathering chatter on pprune.org or the Professional Pilots Rumour Network and on Ledgerwoord's Tumblr microblogging site since last weekend, when Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak disclosed new search areas for the passenger jet with 239 people on board.
"I'm thinking just close behind. It's the early hours of the morning and without some intel/warning, if a radar operator noticed two primary radar returns in the same area, but had a mode 3A/C response from the other plane, it probably wouldn't draw much attention," Sweeperguy wrote in Reddit on Saturday.
Mode 3/A is used to identify each aircraft in the radar's coverage area. Mode C is used to request/report an aircraft's altitude, according to a Wikipedia entry.
Piggybacking on SQ68
According to Singapore Airlines website, flight SQ68 was scheduled to leave the republic's Changi airport at 1.05am for Barcelona, some 25 minutes after MH370 flew from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on the other direction.
"It looks like if MH370 turned after lost contact at 0130 and followed the track back over Malaysia and along the way points previously discussed, it would be in the position shown at 0215, which is 200NM NW of Penang.
"This position is only about 30NM behind the 0215 position of SQ68 which is also a 777," Sweeperguy wrote in his Reddit post, using the local Malaysian time.
Sweeperguy said if MH370 had followed SQ68 along a north-west path over India, which he speculated, the missing passenger jet would be near the SIA jetliner over Pakistan five hours from its last known position at 2.15am.
"So, by closely following SQ68 at a similar altitude and speed, it's likely that any Indian radar operator would not notice or question two closely placed primary radar returns as long as he had the expected squawk from SQ68," he added.
In his Tumblr post, Ledgerwood came to the same conclusion that flight MH370 had flown to all the navigational waypoints disclosed by the Malaysian authorities until it was near the vicinity of SQ68 at about 2.15am.
He said it became apparent that when inspecting SQ68’s flight path history that MH370 had positioned itself directly behind the SIA plane "at approximately 18:00UTC and over the next 15 minutes had been following SIA68".
MH370 undetected without transponders
"It is my belief that MH370 likely flew in the shadow of SIA68 through India and Afghanistan airspace.
"As MH370 was flying 'dark' without transponder / ADS-B output, SIA68 would have had no knowledge that MH370 was anywhere around and as it entered Indian airspace, it would have shown up as one single blip on the radar with only the transponder information of SIA68 lighting up ATC and military radar screens," Ledgerwood wrote in a post that has gone viral.
He pointed out that the SIA flight would not have detected the missing MH370 as "the Boeing 777 utilises a TCAS system for traffic avoidance; the system would ordinarily provide alerts and visualisation to pilots if another airplane was too close".
But that system only operates by receiving the transponder information from other planes and displaying it for the pilot, he said, adding "If MH370 was flying without the transponder, it would have been invisible to SIA68".
"In addition, the TCAS system onboard MH370 would have enabled the pilot(s) to easily locate and approach SIA68 over the Straits of Malacca as they appeared to have done.
"The system would have shown them the flight’s direction of travel and the altitude it was traveling which would have enabled them to perfectly time an intercept right behind the other Boeing 777," Ledgerwood said.
He said while MH370 did not follow SQ68 to Spain, it would have broken free from the shadow of the larger SIA jetliner and "could have then flown a path to it’s final landing site "such as China's Xingjiang province, Kyrgyzstan, or Turkmenistan.
"Each of these final locations would match up almost perfectly with the 7.5 hours of total flight time and trailing SIA68.
"In addition, these locations are all possibilities that are on the 'ARC' and fit with the data provided by Inmarsat from the SATCOM’s last known ping at 01:11UTC," Ledgerwood said.
No sign of MH370
Central Asian neighbours Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan said yesterday that no unidentified planes had crossed their airspace on March 8, making it unlikely that the lost Malaysia Airlines passenger jet could have diverted along a northern route via Thailand, said a Reuters report.
But the Malaysian national carrier's planes made nine regular flights to and from Europe over Kazakhstan's territory on March 8, officials said.
Aviation officials in Pakistan and India as well as Taliban militants in Afghanistan also told Reuters they knew nothing about the whereabouts of the missing plane after the search was extended into their territory from yesterday.
Malaysia has sent diplomatic notes to 14 nations requesting help for search and rescue operations, apart from radar and satellite intelligence, to piece together any trace of the missing wide-body plane.
The search for the missing jet, dubbed as an "unprecedented aviation mystery", continues today, some 240 hours after it vanished into thin air. - March 18, 2014.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/could-missing-mh370-stalked-sia-flight-north-possible-225900110.html
After so many days, the plane has crashed, that is for certain, where?? Was there was demand given to the Malaysian government?? as in (1) We hijack your plane, give us____ (2) I am flying this plane to______ FREE ANWAR!! (3) The Mongolian curse....father of the dead woman, demand that _____??
So far, nobody has made any claims....you can be very sure that, the Malaysian government know, what is happening...is leading everyone in a "wild goose chase"...to cover up, as much as possible..before revealing what had happened...
stay tune...
So far, nobody has made any claims....you can be very sure that, the Malaysian government know, what is happening...is leading everyone in a "wild goose chase"...to cover up, as much as possible..before revealing what had happened...
stay tune...
Maybe after 10 days of fruitless search, it's maybe time for Malaysia to step aside and let the U.S take control of this SAR.
The longer this saga continues the worse it will damage Malaysia's image of transparency and incompetence.
Global respect for the m&ds is at an all time low.
The longer this saga continues the worse it will damage Malaysia's image of transparency and incompetence.
Global respect for the m&ds is at an all time low.
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