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Agree, make peace and prosper. I just think that one should debate on issues and not make personal remarks like saying others have "deep hatred" when he does not want the same words to be used on himself.
Chance upon an article
read what an ex-Singaporean write about Singapore.
About Wing Lee Cheong:
Raised by single parent in the slums of Chinatown in Singapore. Self taught artist and writer. Expelled from high school in 1963 due to poor academic performance. Too lazy then to study and too poor to buy textbooks. Started working at age 14 as an apprentice in a shipyard earning $25 a month. Immigrated to Canada and developed a successful career and business in USA and Canada. Presently retired with wife, Sally,in Sechelt, BC, Canada in a modest house I built with the help of contract workers. Firm believer of not wasting time to chase for more than we need when we could spend our precious time enjoying what we already have. There is more to life than material wealth.
Tuesday, May 1, 2012 The Last of the Native Singaporeans.
Singapore with its highly publicized world rankings in having the best education, best healthcare, best welfare, best law and order, best country for business, the third richest country in the world, etc. etc., is the latest magnet for the rich and famous - the good, the bad and the ugly, - looking for low tax havens to park their money.
The two casinos in Singapore combined rank second in revenue after Macau and outperforming Las Vegas. Yet, few people wonder why two casinos in Singapore could out perform the combined revenues of 42 casinos in Las Vegas Strip especially when most of these casinos have the same or more gambling tables than Singapore’s two casinos. In other words, it means that two char kuey teow stalls do more business than 42 char kuey teow stalls combined. It is a remarkable feat that with less than 10% of Las Vegas Strip casinos workforce, Singapore’s two casinos have managed to do better. Macau needed 33 casinos to outperform Las Vegas. There is something questionable in the poll or fishy in the business.
Singapore was listed in Feb 2012 by Forbes magazine as the third richest country in the world with GDP (PPP) per capita of nearly US$56,700 (SG$71,200). Again, this ranking is questionable when the majority of the workforce in Singapore are getting less than S$2,000 a month. Perhaps the reason is that the billions of dollars brought in by the super rich to park in Singapore has raised the per capital income to a ridiculous and deceiving figure. The middle class is a dying breed in Singapore, you are either the super rich like the ministers who are paid obscenely by the millions or the poor working class who are paid peanuts.
When I visited Singapore last month, I was shocked by the large number of PRC FTs in the City. They seem to be everywhere, pushing, shouting plus exhibiting all the bad habits from China. I have lived and worked in China for more than ten years and have known lots of intelligent, well mannered and polite Chinese. Somehow, these Chinese FTs in Singapore are taken from the very bottom of the barrel. It looks as if China has deliberately released their undesirable people to Singapore to relieve it of its social burden. Very, very few FTs can speak English, Singlish or the basic Chinese dialects of Singapore. They speak their own Mandarin with heavy countryside accents. From my experience, these are the rough and tough Chinese I have seen in China who cannot be easily intimidated by police as they have nothing to lose. It would be a nightmare for Singapore police if these FTs decide to go on riots because of lack of jobs. The police cannot assume that it would be as easy as dealing with kiasi native Singaporeans. For example, I was physically attacked by a Chinese FT in Chinatown just for telling him not to ride his bicycle in the pedestrian path. These people have no qualm beating up an old man or anybody.
Native Singaporeans are losing out in every sector of the economy - jobs, housing, education, etc. to this huge influx of new immigrants. They take over most of the jobs in the service industries, i.e. hotels, food courts, retail centres, hawker centres, etc. and now native Singaporeans have to speak their language in order to get any service or anything done. Most local food are no longer authentic but blended with Mainland Chinese cooking flavor. Native Singaporeans are losing their identities, culture, local cuisine and very soon their Singlish and future.
Are these Chinese FTs, LKY said are smarter and more hardworking than Singaporeans?
In Chinatown, there were PRC women in their forties flirting with local old retirees. The Singapore consulate in China must be blind and daft to grant PR status to these women. What economic values can these middle age women bring to Singapore except to con those dirty old men of their retirement fund and hopefully cast a vote in favor of PAP? The government should check it out in Chinatown. If they bring in another million FTs as planned, the City is going to explode with overloaded infrastructures.
Instead of assimilating into the Singapore culture, the new immigrants from China are demanding that curry and sambal cannot be cooked in HDB estates because they stinks and they cannot stand the smell. They insult native Singaporeans by calling them "dogs", "pigs" and lately "chimpanzees". Just imagine if these Chinese FTs start to call Australians dogs, pigs and kangaroos in Australia. They would be packed and sent home. In Singapore, native Singaporeans were told by their leaders to reflect on themselves???
Former foreign minister, George Yeo once bragged that membership fee to be a Singapore citizen was $500,000. Now they are giving away citizenship free and in some cases even gave money and begged them to come. Singapore will go down in history as the only country in the world that surrender their country to foreigners without a fight. All the sacrifices and hard work by native Singaporeans over decades are going to be handed over to unappreciative foreigners.
What are the chances of the native Singaporeans having a decent and respectable living for future generations. From the looks of things, it is not good.
First, you have the vision extraordinaire senior Statesman, LKY, calling his own citizens daft and needed to repent despite bragging about having the best education in the world. He further insult his own citizens by saying that PRC immigrants are smarter and more hardworking than native Singapore despite bragging that Singapore has the best workforce in the world? Few ministers or new immigrants have any respect, sympathy or concern about the plight and welfare of native Singaporeans. Social problems like transportation, floods, housing, are dismissed as “unavoidable” or “once in fifty years”. or housing are “affordable”.
The plight of native Singaporeans would be left unheard as no one in power would plead their case. Former foreign minister, George Yeo once warned, “know your place in society before you engage in political debate”. If you think, it is bad now, it would be worse in the future.
The descendants of ministers with obscene multi-million salaries and those kiasi citizens who were in the 60% that voted for PAP would not be spared as new Chinese, Pinoys and Indian immigrants do not depend on their votes to win elections. It is a damn disgrace to give away the sovereignty of your country and become second class citizens in your own country. If this irreversible immigration policy was done by the opposition, the entire opposition would likely be put in jail for treason. With the present 1.5 million FTs and more coming, you do not need to be a genius to calculate that within two generations, Chinese FTs, Pinoys and Indians will outnumber native Singaporeans and they will govern Singapore. Sadly that will be the extinction of the once happy, hardworking and peaceful race - the last of native Singaporeans and like the Indian tribe, the Mohigans, they will be lost in history. Paradise gone for the native Singaporeans, betrayed and abandoned by their own MIW leaders who promised them Swiss standard of living.
Ironically, it would be left to the once despised diaspora ex-Singaporeans called the Quitters to tell this sad story
read what an ex-Singaporean write about Singapore.
About Wing Lee Cheong:
Raised by single parent in the slums of Chinatown in Singapore. Self taught artist and writer. Expelled from high school in 1963 due to poor academic performance. Too lazy then to study and too poor to buy textbooks. Started working at age 14 as an apprentice in a shipyard earning $25 a month. Immigrated to Canada and developed a successful career and business in USA and Canada. Presently retired with wife, Sally,in Sechelt, BC, Canada in a modest house I built with the help of contract workers. Firm believer of not wasting time to chase for more than we need when we could spend our precious time enjoying what we already have. There is more to life than material wealth.
Tuesday, May 1, 2012 The Last of the Native Singaporeans.
Singapore with its highly publicized world rankings in having the best education, best healthcare, best welfare, best law and order, best country for business, the third richest country in the world, etc. etc., is the latest magnet for the rich and famous - the good, the bad and the ugly, - looking for low tax havens to park their money.
The two casinos in Singapore combined rank second in revenue after Macau and outperforming Las Vegas. Yet, few people wonder why two casinos in Singapore could out perform the combined revenues of 42 casinos in Las Vegas Strip especially when most of these casinos have the same or more gambling tables than Singapore’s two casinos. In other words, it means that two char kuey teow stalls do more business than 42 char kuey teow stalls combined. It is a remarkable feat that with less than 10% of Las Vegas Strip casinos workforce, Singapore’s two casinos have managed to do better. Macau needed 33 casinos to outperform Las Vegas. There is something questionable in the poll or fishy in the business.
Singapore was listed in Feb 2012 by Forbes magazine as the third richest country in the world with GDP (PPP) per capita of nearly US$56,700 (SG$71,200). Again, this ranking is questionable when the majority of the workforce in Singapore are getting less than S$2,000 a month. Perhaps the reason is that the billions of dollars brought in by the super rich to park in Singapore has raised the per capital income to a ridiculous and deceiving figure. The middle class is a dying breed in Singapore, you are either the super rich like the ministers who are paid obscenely by the millions or the poor working class who are paid peanuts.
When I visited Singapore last month, I was shocked by the large number of PRC FTs in the City. They seem to be everywhere, pushing, shouting plus exhibiting all the bad habits from China. I have lived and worked in China for more than ten years and have known lots of intelligent, well mannered and polite Chinese. Somehow, these Chinese FTs in Singapore are taken from the very bottom of the barrel. It looks as if China has deliberately released their undesirable people to Singapore to relieve it of its social burden. Very, very few FTs can speak English, Singlish or the basic Chinese dialects of Singapore. They speak their own Mandarin with heavy countryside accents. From my experience, these are the rough and tough Chinese I have seen in China who cannot be easily intimidated by police as they have nothing to lose. It would be a nightmare for Singapore police if these FTs decide to go on riots because of lack of jobs. The police cannot assume that it would be as easy as dealing with kiasi native Singaporeans. For example, I was physically attacked by a Chinese FT in Chinatown just for telling him not to ride his bicycle in the pedestrian path. These people have no qualm beating up an old man or anybody.
Native Singaporeans are losing out in every sector of the economy - jobs, housing, education, etc. to this huge influx of new immigrants. They take over most of the jobs in the service industries, i.e. hotels, food courts, retail centres, hawker centres, etc. and now native Singaporeans have to speak their language in order to get any service or anything done. Most local food are no longer authentic but blended with Mainland Chinese cooking flavor. Native Singaporeans are losing their identities, culture, local cuisine and very soon their Singlish and future.
Are these Chinese FTs, LKY said are smarter and more hardworking than Singaporeans?
In Chinatown, there were PRC women in their forties flirting with local old retirees. The Singapore consulate in China must be blind and daft to grant PR status to these women. What economic values can these middle age women bring to Singapore except to con those dirty old men of their retirement fund and hopefully cast a vote in favor of PAP? The government should check it out in Chinatown. If they bring in another million FTs as planned, the City is going to explode with overloaded infrastructures.
Instead of assimilating into the Singapore culture, the new immigrants from China are demanding that curry and sambal cannot be cooked in HDB estates because they stinks and they cannot stand the smell. They insult native Singaporeans by calling them "dogs", "pigs" and lately "chimpanzees". Just imagine if these Chinese FTs start to call Australians dogs, pigs and kangaroos in Australia. They would be packed and sent home. In Singapore, native Singaporeans were told by their leaders to reflect on themselves???
Former foreign minister, George Yeo once bragged that membership fee to be a Singapore citizen was $500,000. Now they are giving away citizenship free and in some cases even gave money and begged them to come. Singapore will go down in history as the only country in the world that surrender their country to foreigners without a fight. All the sacrifices and hard work by native Singaporeans over decades are going to be handed over to unappreciative foreigners.
What are the chances of the native Singaporeans having a decent and respectable living for future generations. From the looks of things, it is not good.
First, you have the vision extraordinaire senior Statesman, LKY, calling his own citizens daft and needed to repent despite bragging about having the best education in the world. He further insult his own citizens by saying that PRC immigrants are smarter and more hardworking than native Singapore despite bragging that Singapore has the best workforce in the world? Few ministers or new immigrants have any respect, sympathy or concern about the plight and welfare of native Singaporeans. Social problems like transportation, floods, housing, are dismissed as “unavoidable” or “once in fifty years”. or housing are “affordable”.
The plight of native Singaporeans would be left unheard as no one in power would plead their case. Former foreign minister, George Yeo once warned, “know your place in society before you engage in political debate”. If you think, it is bad now, it would be worse in the future.
The descendants of ministers with obscene multi-million salaries and those kiasi citizens who were in the 60% that voted for PAP would not be spared as new Chinese, Pinoys and Indian immigrants do not depend on their votes to win elections. It is a damn disgrace to give away the sovereignty of your country and become second class citizens in your own country. If this irreversible immigration policy was done by the opposition, the entire opposition would likely be put in jail for treason. With the present 1.5 million FTs and more coming, you do not need to be a genius to calculate that within two generations, Chinese FTs, Pinoys and Indians will outnumber native Singaporeans and they will govern Singapore. Sadly that will be the extinction of the once happy, hardworking and peaceful race - the last of native Singaporeans and like the Indian tribe, the Mohigans, they will be lost in history. Paradise gone for the native Singaporeans, betrayed and abandoned by their own MIW leaders who promised them Swiss standard of living.
Ironically, it would be left to the once despised diaspora ex-Singaporeans called the Quitters to tell this sad story
If I am not out dated, TH, cluster and superlink is between RM800k to RM1.1million as 2 storey semi D if there are any available in Gateway precinct (completed 3 years ago), will be RM 1.3million onwards. The 3storey semi-D will be from RM 1.6million and above depending on the view and renovations.
My lawyer told me there is a plan to increase state consent fee from RM 10K to RM 30K (per application) anytime soon. Based on my experience, there is no need to pay your lawyer several thousands RM extra to "expedite" the application process for state consent.
Our neighbours in HH in front and beside us at the Gateway precinct are mostly Singaporean. Driving from the guardhouse, one can see Singapore registered cars on both sides of the drive way. This is literally a Little Singapore one may say.
Seems like the voices supporting this call are getting louder and louder by the days in the MSM...
I guessed it will be just a matter of time before the MY government finally announced it...
Published: Wednesday May 9, 2012 MYT 2:55:00 PM
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/5/9/business/20120509151052&sec=business
Move to raise foreign property floor price timely, says RAM
By Daniel Khoo
KUALA LUMPUR: The government's planned move to raise the floor residential property prices that foreigners can purchase to RM1mil is a good move, says Ratings Agency Malaysia Holdings (RAM) chief economist.
Dr Yeah Kim Leng said on Wednesday that this was because most of the medium to upper medium-cost houses had reached the RM800,000 to RM1mil price range.
"This (high price range) is already quite a concern because for (the) mass market segment you will actually put it (houses) beyond the reach of a lot of lower to middle income or those just entering the workforce or even those with five to 10 years of working experience," he said.
Yeah said that these groups of people will not be able to afford to buy houses due to the current high prices.
He added the government's plan to eventually raise the foreign property floor price for houses would help cap demand for units below the new threshold amount.
I guessed it will be just a matter of time before the MY government finally announced it...
Published: Wednesday May 9, 2012 MYT 2:55:00 PM
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/5/9/business/20120509151052&sec=business
Move to raise foreign property floor price timely, says RAM
By Daniel Khoo
KUALA LUMPUR: The government's planned move to raise the floor residential property prices that foreigners can purchase to RM1mil is a good move, says Ratings Agency Malaysia Holdings (RAM) chief economist.
Dr Yeah Kim Leng said on Wednesday that this was because most of the medium to upper medium-cost houses had reached the RM800,000 to RM1mil price range.
"This (high price range) is already quite a concern because for (the) mass market segment you will actually put it (houses) beyond the reach of a lot of lower to middle income or those just entering the workforce or even those with five to 10 years of working experience," he said.
Yeah said that these groups of people will not be able to afford to buy houses due to the current high prices.
He added the government's plan to eventually raise the foreign property floor price for houses would help cap demand for units below the new threshold amount.
Really disappointed with them, their representative, a CFO really disappointed me with the way he handled this. Friends are urging me to take legal action as they are a legal company. Have been eating humble piefor the sake of my friends but the guy just fobbed me off with another unit. This is after he first blamed the staff involved and then also called the bank lady and was rude to her when verifying the events. Now i only have the option to go with a smaller unit instead of the corner.
Been helping to bring customers to them online and offline and people involved reading this will know whether i get any hidden benefits or not. Yet now really disappointed that this developer is acting this way.
Will update more to see how it goes as on top of the contacts i have, friends are connecting me with different people to look into this. Some developers are really unethical, as a very learned bro said, they are still a long way from being a trusted and reliable developer despite being listed. This is a developer who has residential as well as commercial properties. Didn't expect this from them.
Sorry bro, not trying to insinuate anything here, just having a constructive discussion. My apologies if the wording hv offended you in any way..
Cheers..
Yes. Even Msia also protect their citizens in certain way. Unlike in tiny red dot!
When my bro-in-law was retrenched, he was replaced by a Pinoy. Took him apprx 9 mths before he was offered his present job. His starting pay was 1/3 of his last drawn salary fm his previous employment. Got four mouths to feed. Wife no choice but to seek for employment too. Luckily his pigeon hole was fully paid!
As parents, we have to really think hard of our childrens future too. I juz pray hard they be able to survive in tiny red dot. As for contigency plan, getting a property in Msia/JB definitely a step towards the right direction. Wouldnt be surprised very very near future we may see sporeans staying JB but working in tiny red dot. Some of our bros here are already doing it. Juz like our Msian (PRs and green card holders) counterparts...
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I've read this in another forum, they say the background is actually a SG politician.. So take it with a pinch of salt...just my 2 cents..
Hmm...kami punya kaka. Bukan abang lah....kalau saya tak silap..
Jadi, kaka ke atau bang? Sorry my Malay really gave back to the teacher many many moons ago...:-).
And correct me ifi am wrong on what u r trying to put across lah bang..
Thanks, peace to all. Ginfreely is actually a sis. Both sides of the causeway has their own woes as well as things that works. Each side looks greener but we have to live with the policies that each made, whether its good or bad. I strongly believe that every mothers son/daughter is allowed to comment on ones own country.
All that matters now is the policies that both countries work out together as increasingly, their interdependence relations will grow.
The writing was already on the wall more than 3 years ago.
To me, most developers are alike(there r out there who are good) - priority is to make $$.
I had an experience before where I booked a townhouse verbally ( gave assurance comming over with my chq)over the phone and when I reached, they hv sold the unit..
Somemore, I found out they hv sold it higher by 10k... Really disappointed and walked out..
I had an experience before where I booked a townhouse verbally ( gave assurance comming over with my chq)over the phone and when I reached, they hv sold the unit..
Somemore, I found out they hv sold it higher by 10k... Really disappointed and walked out..
Lol... So sorry, again my ignorance..sis Ginfreely.
bro wuqi, thanks for highlighting, u r the man!
bro wuqi, thanks for highlighting, u r the man!
Thanks, actually i still have all the paper documentation, etc and they did not even do anything but just called and sold immediately. I asked for one more day to check with
the bank but the guy refused.
He was also very rude to most of us, i am very very mild person but push me hard enough, i can sacrifice every single thing just to put things right. I said many times before,
money is not the only equation, sometimes what is needed is basic respect. He made disparaging remarks about my friends when they had concerns about the levy or the 10%
downpayment. I was really upset.
If you cannot be professional enough, at least be civil enough as a person and not try to put people down, despite the title one has in a company, in a public crowd, no one knows who you are. Even a begger can spit on you and you can't do anything.
Talking about developers, just only recently then i found out, one very good developer (whom i shall not name) was so good to the people, they even gave installments to the deposit
and difference between the bank loan and the remainder. One guy from SG spoilt it though as he stretched their goodwill past the 2 year mark. Imagine if one gets 90% for a 500k house and takes more than 2 years to pay RM 50k .
Nowadays, this good developer learnt its lesson so limiting this to 6 months. I sincerely salute the boss of this company as well as the manager (another good man)
No problem since you clarify..
A little steam may be released from time to time but all good people here.
This by election at Hougang. If MIW win over (juz like Potong Pasir), I give up on those 60% dafts!
This by election at Hougang. If MIW win over (juz like Potong Pasir), I give up on those 60% dafts!
I sincerely hope that the good people of Hougang do the right thing.
We should really just name and shame the parties involved. I will do that if they tried to fob things off. Even if i walk away
empty handed, i will make sure the world knows. I can always make my money elsewhere.
http://youtu.be/NkhT9okwlWg
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