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Let's get this straight. It's the older Sinkie PMETS that loses out to FTs

enterprise2

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Gen Y onwards Sinkies r very much sought after. They just entered the workforce, get starting salaries and r groomed for many years of productive work life ahead. It's the older workers who loses out to FTs. They r in their late 40s or 50s, drawing max salaries in their salary band, ..they r the ones that employers will rather pass over for a FT.
Only way to get these PMETs hired is to shut off the flow of FTs so employers have no choice but to hire them.
 

Equalisation

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Agree.

They even deepen the wound sufferred by us poorer citizens by locking up OUR hard-earned Cpf money by not releasing back to us at age 55 !!!:mad:
 

shOUTloud

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Gen Y onwards Sinkies r very much sought after. They just entered the workforce, get starting salaries and r groomed for many years of productive work life ahead. It's the older workers who loses out to FTs. They r in their late 40s or 50s, drawing max salaries in their salary band, ..they r the ones that employers will rather pass over for a FT.
Only way to get these PMETs hired is to shut off the flow of FTs so employers have no choice but to hire them.

When the Gen Y hits 40, they will suffer the same fate. Nothing better to prepare for old age than now.
 

nirvarq

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Its all about the government. They could import as many FTs for MNCs as they like.
All they need to do is to reserve all GLCs jobs to Locals only.
 

Kinana

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Many of the late 40 n 50s are dead wood w high salaries. All like to geng. They need to be replaced
 

BraunBuffel

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Gen Y onwards Sinkies r very much sought after.

It's the older workers who loses out to FTs. They r in their late 40s or 50s

I think 35 is already a dangerous age. By 40, confirm members for the Russian Roulette game. Every year sure got casualty. It's a game that people wanna play. Or forced to play.
 

DuYunQi

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I have met several younger Singaporeans, some of whom have not got a job since they left their education institutions for over 6months or longer.

Some cite employers saying "lack of experience", some say "salary expectations too high".

So, it is not just the over 40s who are facing serious competition from the foreigners. The younger ones, especially those with education certification not from the more recognized NUS, NTU, will get passed over by grads from these institutions.. and then the foreigners will come in to offer a lower option for the employers, thereby making these young Singaporeans cut off from being employed.

Some of them have to take on really low wage jobs to make ends meet.. and once they do.. their salary will be severely depressed for god knows how long.

This is why I saw young and older Singaporeans at the Hong Lim Park rally.

The situation is getting very bad. Unless the govt has the balls to stand up and tell the businesses to employ Singaporeans first, and stop the inflow to make their stand firm.. all Singaporeans will be at risk of losing out to cheap foreign labour.
 

batman1

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Agree.

They even deepen the wound sufferred by us poorer citizens by locking up OUR hard-earned Cpf money by not releasing back to us at age 55 !!!:mad:

The PAP Govt,the NTUC and the Singapore Employers all ganged up to replace singapore citizens white collar workers PMET with cheaper foreign white collar workers.
The PAP Govt,the NTUC and the Singapore Employers have sold out and broke the ricebowls of singapore citizens.
KNNCCB to the PAP !!!
KNNCCB to the NTUC !!!
KNNCCB to the Singapore Employers !!!
KNNCCB to the 60 % !!!
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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The situation is getting very bad. Unless the govt has the balls to stand up and tell the businesses to employ Singaporeans first, and stop the inflow to make their stand firm.. all Singaporeans will be at risk of losing out to cheap foreign labour.

Who do you think is the largest employer in Singapore? Stop being an idiot by asking the PAPzis to switch off their revenue streams which come in the form of GDDP bonuses and increased income from rental of properties directly owned by them and indirectly from those owned by GLCs and minions.
 

QXD

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It's the same as Gen X back then when they started working. They said that it was the baby boomers who were getting retrenched...

So really, does Gen X have anything less compared to Gen Y when it comes to contributing? I say no, but it is the government's stance to "renew" it's workforce and bring in "fresh blood".

When applied to the government service, it means fast tracking their incompetent scholars onward to bigger responsibilities. In the private sector, it means to chase after lower salaries with less experience.

Sadly, Gen Y does not realize that they are setting themselves up for failure, they may get job starts easier, but then as they get older, they will find their salaries more depressed as cheaper competition and the fight begins for the largest share of a shrinking pie, and then the cycle repeats when Gen Z starts to say the same about the "older" Gen Y.
 
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myfoot123

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The situation is getting very bad. Unless the govt has the balls to stand up and tell the businesses to employ Singaporeans first, and stop the inflow to make their stand firm.. all Singaporeans will be at risk of losing out to cheap foreign labour.

I always tell Singaporeans, why wait for govt to act when Sinkies can start to boycott all those SMEs or foreign companies with excessive foreign labour. Stop patronising those anti-sinkies companies and these companies will automatically shut down or kept quiet and crawl with their knees to us.

Those foreign chambers who pressurize PAP to bring in foreign labours forgot that who make up the huge consumers in this cuntry, it is sinkies who consumed the most of their product and services. Without sinkies support, all these companies will close shop.

I hope sam can allow us to list down those companies.

Starting with

Breadtalk
 

Kinanana

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Gen Y onwards Sinkies r very much sought after. They just entered the workforce, get starting salaries and r groomed for many years of productive work life ahead. It's the older workers who loses out to FTs. They r in their late 40s or 50s, drawing max salaries in their salary band, ..they r the ones that employers will rather pass over for a FT.
Only way to get these PMETs hired is to shut off the flow of FTs so employers have no choice but to hire them.
Would you want a LAZY oldman or a younf productive FT if it is your company! You guys have Water in Your Brains! :oIo:
 

CPT (NS) BRANDON

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What do Singaporeans expect?

I am against the influx of foreigners, but sometimes people are really too much. Take Gilbert Goh for instance. This is a guy who failed miserably in Australia. He became bitter and cynical. But he is really just a loser who doesn't want to take a good long look at himself. He once shared that he had only $50 in his wallet after being unemployed for years. Why doesn't he go and find a f*cking job, surely there are many jobs that suit him?

What do some of these complainers want?

- Get paid $6,000 per month
- Get 20 days of leave a year
- Work 3 days a week
- Get to knock off at 2 pm on one of those days
- Minimal responsibility except shuffling some paperwork here and there

Is that what people want?

I f*cking resent the PAP's immigration policies, but there is a small percentage of Singaporeans (definitely less than 10%) who DESERVE to be unemployed.

These are good for nothings who are yearning for the creation of a welfare state so that they can scrounge off those who are diligent.

Gilbert Goh is probably one of them!
 

soIsee

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Gen Y onwards Sinkies r very much sought after. They just entered the workforce, get starting salaries and r groomed for many years of productive work life ahead. It's the older workers who loses out to FTs. They r in their late 40s or 50s, drawing max salaries in their salary band, ..they r the ones that employers will rather pass over for a FT.
Only way to get these PMETs hired is to shut off the flow of FTs so employers have no choice but to hire them.

With the way you look at issues..Sinkie would be dead duck sooner than Pinky could do them in.

Moron, it's the Sinkie who are in their 40s to 50s, as bosses who get the benefits of employing FTs.

Not to mention there are the investors of that age group who benefit GREATLY read as 'getting alot more yield 'in their investment properties.

Do you think a young punk in their 20s to 30s can be in the above categories?

Of course being a loser Sinkie like yourself, who could eitihier be a 40 to 50 Sinkie or a Sinkie heading the way of doom as described by you, you could not fathom that the above two ( and there are alot more) categories are rooting for Ah Loong to pump in more FTs.

Why not? Afterall, Ah Loong and those Sinkie above would WIN, no doubt leaving only Losers like yourself figuring out why you did not manage to make it into those groups as well!
 

winnipegjets

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Gen Y onwards Sinkies r very much sought after. They just entered the workforce, get starting salaries and r groomed for many years of productive work life ahead. It's the older workers who loses out to FTs. They r in their late 40s or 50s, drawing max salaries in their salary band, ..they r the ones that employers will rather pass over for a FT.
Only way to get these PMETs hired is to shut off the flow of FTs so employers have no choice but to hire them.

It is not difficult to educate Gen Y that what is happening to the current mid-career PMET will happen to them eventually with PAPpythied being implemented full blown to achieve 50 percent foreigners domination.
 

Leongsam

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Gen Y onwards Sinkies r very much sought after. They just entered the workforce, get starting salaries and r groomed for many years of productive work life ahead. It's the older workers who loses out to FTs. They r in their late 40s or 50s, drawing max salaries in their salary band, ..they r the ones that employers will rather pass over for a FT.
Only way to get these PMETs hired is to shut off the flow of FTs so employers have no choice but to hire them.

Those PMETs are obviously being paid more than they're worth. That's why they've been fired. No employer is going to pay someone $10,000 per month if they don't add more than that amount of value to the enterprise.

Suppose I hire a sinkie as an advertising executive and give him the job of selling advertising packages for a website. I pay him $5000 a month. However, month after month, he only brings in $4000 of ad revenue so he's actually costing me $1000 instead of contributing to the bottom line.

So I fire the guy and hire an Indian National or a gen Y youngster for $2500 per month instead. This guy may not even do as well as the older sinkie and he only books $3500 per month of revenue. However, because he is cheaper, he contributes $1000 of profit.

That, in a nutshell, is how a business is run. If I am forced to hire expensive staff, I'll simply move my office somewhere else where such rules do not apply.

PMETs who have been working for a long time should have been planning for retirement along the way. By the time they hit the max pay scale, they shouldn't need jobs anymore. They should be financially independent.
 
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