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silverfox@

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Sigh ....

1) There are other places to gamble other than RWS, MBS and Genting Malaysia which offer blackjack the tradditional way. Maybe you want to consider casinos in Macau, Australia and the Philippines.

I pay levy $100 to go RWS, MBS so much nearer than to go Macau, Australia and Phillipines. Most of the people here in this site are from Singapore. So no one is really bothered whether you are talking about South Korea, Macau, Australia, Las Vegas, or even the Antartica if they open 1. Most of the things you are talking about is no longer applicable locally. So probably you can speak in the same channel and frequency in a forum filled with US citizens who can understand the theoretical applications you mentioned.

If you think $100 is too expensive, you can buy the $2000 divided by 52 weeks which is $39 per visit and still more cheaper and faster to go those countries. :biggrin:
 

aurvandil

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It is sad to see the advantage gamblers been man-handled, arrested and threatened and humilated.

I do heard the Las Vega City casinos is not run in a gentleman way and
really sabotaged some professional gamblers in USA :(

Genting Malaysia is very close to the police in Malaysia. If you are caught advantage gambling, they will detain and intimidate you. Making a police report is pretty useless as the Malysian police will not do anything. After Genting won the RWS bid, they tried to sneak in Pansy Ho as a partner. They only dropped Pansy Ho when CRA made it clear they will not be given the casino license if Pansy Ho continues to be an associate. Currently, the Genting operates VIP room in Macau with Pansy Ho who has links to 2 of 4 big triads in HK.

Sands is a new player in Singapore. They however come from Vegas. In Macau, they operate junket VIP room with 1 of 4 major triads in HK. In Sep 09, there was a spectacular trail in HK where the Sands in Macau was implicated in contracting Woh Hop Toh to kill a dealer who had conspired with a player to cheat the casino. This resulted in Singapore's CRA witholding the MBS casino license until the last minute to send MBS a message that they better run a clean operation in Singapore.
 
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fish61

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If they are using shuffling machine, the difference can't be felt whether using 4 deck or 6 deck.

But MBS is stand on all 17. RWS is hit on soft 17.

Last few times played at RWS,dealer stand on all 17.
Last visit was in March.
Have they changed the rules?
Bro Silverfox, can u confirm?
Thanks.
Btw I play abit like you and your friend's strategy.
Good play,keep it up.
Hope you improve your play even more.:smile:
 

sg4dlive

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Beside using Surrender option and double down when having strong card for Blackjack, what other pitfall we shoud avoid ?

When you control the whole table, any money management style you need to deploy inorder to gain more ?
 

silverfox@

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Last few times played at RWS,dealer stand on all 17.
Last visit was in March.
Have they changed the rules?
Bro Silverfox, can u confirm?
Thanks.
Btw I play abit like you and your friend's strategy.
Good play,keep it up.
Hope you improve your play even more.:smile:

For RWS, the last time I went was around march also, but the table rules then were to draw on soft 17. Very long never go RWS, now playing more on MBS.

cheers hope win more on tables. :p
 

silverfox@

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Beside using Surrender option and double down when having strong card for Blackjack, what other pitfall we shoud avoid ?

When you control the whole table, any money management style you need to deploy inorder to gain more ?

There are days when we lose. Days when dealer keep getting strong cards and we having weak cards. That is the time where no point chasing to recover and leaving the casino with a small loss will be better than incurring big losses.

When you control the whole table, all bets must be equal, no such thing as this base put more, that base put less. If there is any interference from others, that is the time either to switch tables or stay and wait for others to leave. :p
 

LauMeng

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There are days when we lose. Days when dealer keep getting strong cards and we having weak cards. That is the time where no point chasing to recover and leaving the casino with a small loss will be better than incurring big losses. :p

Agree with you. A good advice indeed. But how many gamblers are discipline enough to quit while they are losing. The troubler is when they lose, they also lose their head and end up incurring big losses. Casino loves this kind of gamblers.
 

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Agree with you. A good advice indeed. But how many gamblers are discipline enough to quit while they are losing. The troubler is when they lose, they also lose their head and end up incurring big losses. Casino loves this kind of gamblers.
And those who win seldom know how or when to walk away.
They will mistakenly think that they are on some kind of fantastic streak and may inevitably end up losing back most if not all of their winnings.
Casinos love players like that. They hate those who are disciplined.
 

sg4dlive

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Before I step into Casino, I always ask myself what is my limit to lose or win for the day. You need to set a target and follow strictly without any excuse to go ATM and draw more to play..Never ! The best way is to bring the amount you want to play and do not bring any ATM/Credit card and etc with you..Then, once you lose all, walk out with a smile and call it a day ! You can come back and fight anytime to win again..Casinos are open 24x7x365, so what is the point if Dealers are on winning streak and you still keep fighting to win ? Have a good rest and believe you will have a better and lucky day !
 

aurvandil

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Before I step into Casino, I always ask myself what is my limit to lose or win for the day. You need to set a target and follow strictly without any excuse to go ATM and draw more to play..Never ! The best way is to bring the amount you want to play and do not bring any ATM/Credit card and etc with you..Then, once you lose all, walk out with a smile and call it a day ! You can come back and fight anytime to win again..Casinos are open 24x7x365, so what is the point if Dealers are on winning streak and you still keep fighting to win ? Have a good rest and believe you will have a better and lucky day !

You can go 1 step better by buying and using only nn chips. When the nn chips run out, you GO HOME.

The discipline problem with many gamblers is that when they use cash chips, they tend to hang around the table and keep betting until all the cash chips are gone. It is therefore very common to hear stories of how people were up $4k to 5k only to lose everything + capital back to the table.
 

sg4dlive

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I only like to go MBS or RSW ! Time is the problem to get on the ship/ferry or other countries Casinos...Pay 100 for Charity without wasting time on travelling...So nn chips are not applicable in Singapore context. Is my understanding correct ?
 

aurvandil

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I only like to go MBS or RSW ! Time is the problem to get on the ship/ferry or other countries Casinos...Pay 100 for Charity without wasting time on travelling...So nn chips are not applicable in Singapore context. Is my understanding correct ?

For the moment that is true. Gambling ships like Long Jie and Genting Malaysia are the closest casinos with nn chips. It is however only a matter of time before they introduce nn chips at MBS/RWS just like it is also only a matter of time before they come up with some clever scheme to circumvent the $100 levy. Many speculate that this will happen quite quickly after the elections as MBS/RWS cannot tahan and will go under.

If your intention is to win $ rather than just play, maybe you should just wait a while.
 

aurvandil

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Regardless of what strategy you are using at Blackjack, one of the greatest weakness of amateur blackjack players is the failure to implement the strategy under actual casino conditions. Many players don't realise this but their actual play probably deviates quite a bit from what their intended. strategy.

To see how accurate you are in implementing your strategy, you can use one of the those old casino applications that teach you card counting. The card counting part is obsolete but what is still immensely useful is the part which teaches basic strategy. You will need to do a little bit of tweaking so that the rules follow those at RWS/Genting/MBS as closely as possible.

Once you have done this, you can switch the practice mode on so that the program helps you keep a log and prompts you whenever you deviate from your strategy. If the program doesn't do it for you, you should keep an additional log to note:

1) Time when training session started
2) Time when an error occurs
3) What was the error which occured

This log will then let you see

1) What are the hands which you are most prone to make an error
2) What is the period of time you can sustain error free play before errors start to creep in

For most amateurs, their play will be be relatively error free for the first 15 minutes. After that you will be able to see errors creeping in. Here it should be noted that no matter how hard you train, it will be impossible for you to achieve zero error over an extended period. What your goal should be is:

1) Slowly reduce the error incidence with practice
2) Increase the period of time you can play without making an error

If you practice using a simulator, you should be able to play at 2 to 3 times the speed in a real casino. This is good as it helps you build up your focus so that your actual play during a session with real money will see a much lower error rate.

Also this training will give up an indication of how long you should play at the table before you get up and take a break. In general, the maximum time you should sit and play is 45 mins to 1 hour before you get up and take at least a half hour break to refresh yourself.
 

silverfox@

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For the moment that is true. Gambling ships like Long Jie and Genting Malaysia are the closest casinos with nn chips. It is however only a matter of time before they introduce nn chips at MBS/RWS just like it is also only a matter of time before they come up with some clever scheme to circumvent the $100 levy. Many speculate that this will happen quite quickly after the elections as MBS/RWS cannot tahan and will go under.

If your intention is to win $ rather than just play, maybe you should just wait a while.

A Matter of Time. Looks real but when? :biggrin:

Judging by the amount of levies the govt has collected, this levy will not be removed. Neither will the govt allow casinos to come out with schemes to circumvent the levy. If there is, they would have pushed it from the start.

Those who want to wait for all these schemes to take place, can slowly wait for the day where they can get their money's worth of $100. Let the rest who can't wait enter the casino first.
 

silverfox@

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You can go 1 step better by buying and using only nn chips. When the nn chips run out, you GO HOME.

The discipline problem with many gamblers is that when they use cash chips, they tend to hang around the table and keep betting until all the cash chips are gone. It is therefore very common to hear stories of how people were up $4k to 5k only to lose everything + capital back to the table.

There is no difference if you have no discipline whether you use nn or cash chips.

If you think having cash chips will make a person hang around betting till he finishes his chips, he will also hang around betting till he finishes his nn chips because nn chips cannot be changed with cage cashier at all.

No discipline, even if nn chips, buy already lose finish will still go and buy again. It's not on the chips, but the person's mindset.

This is gambler's pattern. whether you use cash, nn, mm, zz or whatever kind of pattern chips you can think of. :biggrin:
 

silverfox@

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I only like to go MBS or RSW ! Time is the problem to get on the ship/ferry or other countries Casinos...Pay 100 for Charity without wasting time on travelling...So nn chips are not applicable in Singapore context. Is my understanding correct ?

Junkets and nn chips not applicable in singapore casinos.

NN chips works on the fact of playing till you lose them. Because these chips can never be exchanged for money's worth in the casino. The only way to get rid of NN chips is to lose. :o
 

aurvandil

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Those who want to wait for all these schemes to take place, can slowly wait for the day where they can get their money's worth of $100. Let the rest who can't wait enter the casino first.

If you don't even have the discipline to wait for this, how to have discipline at the gambling table?
 

silverfox@

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If you don't even have the discipline to wait for this, how to have discipline at the gambling table?

Oh yea man, only you have discipline, so you slowly wait for the day when RWS and MBS will either

1) no more levy needed
2) or have junket service or have nn chips
3) or have schemes to cover the levy needed to pay

So let us all those "with no discipline" go into the casinos in SG first. :biggrin:

Let's move on to news which are CONCRETE and not ASSUME that it will happen. Maybe wait until 1 leg in coffin, the above 3 options still not implemented:eek::biggrin:
 

sg4dlive

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I think we should focus on what is available on MBS and RWS and since nn Chips are not going to be available at this moment..Let's focus on strategy and winning where applicable in Singapore Context.

How about any tips on upgrading members card ? This is such that you can enjoy privileges and points accumulate and can offset abit on your 100 dollars levy...Better then nothing...:smile:
 

Six Seven Eight

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To draw or to Stand??
1)dealer face card--2
last player---14

2)dealer face card--4
last player---12

To buy or Not to Buy insurance??
dealer face card--Ace
player 1---18
player 2---19
player 3---20
 
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