Casino gambling fall in here!!!

[Heart Break Kid]

On comps, it is a cheap way to get a nice holiday from Uncle Lim. It is the easiest and safest form of advantage play. If you follow my advice, you wil be able to stay in nice rooms and eat good food without paying Uncle Lim back on the casino floor. Added bonus is that you get to secretly laugh at all the other big players who had to lose big to enjoy the same level of comps and VIP access that you spent only a few hundred dollars acquiring.

Nowadays I learn not to bet so much in one or two hand.

In Ruby Room, I saw one young executive chap lost $3,000 in first hand on the Baccarat table then he changed $10,000 cash chips immediately and bet everything on BANKER but the results is PLAYER WIN. He walk away and the rest of gamblers is secretly laughing at him.

In High Limit section, I ever one rich old auntie lost $15,000 (3 pieces of yellow cash chips) in one hand on the Baccarat table then another $15,000 lost. She walked away. The pit boss & dealer is laughing at her commenting that she lost $30,000 in few minutes.

 

[aurvandil]

This is very true when I am winning in MBS my comp points and comp dollars shot up very fast. Especially my Premier Dollar once I had $500+ when I am winning on the tables. So I used the comp dollars to redeem those expensive main courses meal in causal restaurants.

But when I am losing the comp points only increase like 2 or 3 points only after playing so long in Ruby Room.
Comp dollars also increase a bit only

I think I said before that asking an advantage player to go and play in the high limit section is like asking a vampire to go to church on a Sunday morning.

If you think through, they can only do this because they electronically tagged the chips that they gave to you at the table. The technology to outfit a table to do it is currently expensive and they can only afford to do it at the high limit section.

At this point in time, the tables outside do not have this technology. They are therefore the preferred hunting ground of advantage players. If you go Genting, my preferred tables are the RM 100 in the International Room. These give good Genting Points, are untagged and get quite busy during the have weekends.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

I think I said before that asking an advantage player to go and play in the high limit section is like asking a vampire to go to church on a Sunday morning.

If you think through, they can only do this because they electronically tagged the chips that they gave to you at the table. The technology to outfit a table to do it is currently expensive and they can only afford to do it at the high limit section.

At this point in time, the table outside do not have this technology. They are therefore the preferred hunting ground of advantage players.

OK understand liao

 

[aurvandil]

I don't think you would be keen on joining PAIZA as like what HBK said before ,you need to deposit monies to get that membership. Unless you are thinking of exchanging 2Mill, to get 1% rolling and redeem a $2K levy

Your info accurate one or not? Put down S$2 mil and only get 1%? If it is, it is a piss poor deal. Most other places, you can get 1.2% to 1.3% if you buy $50k to $100k.

1.2% here is the magic number since it is the breakeven point for no comission B6 baccarat.

Also what kind of comps are you talking here? If all you get is circumventing of the levy and free flow beer,wine and stout, then it is a pretty poor deal. This is especially if you are a blackjack player since the beer/wine/stout will hamper your ability to execute your strategy.

However if we can get things like free hotel style buffet (ie Oysters, sushi, prime rib. NOT fried rice, fried bee hoon !) whenever you go and the ability to sign in guests to enjoy, then it would be a good deal.

 

[aurvandil]

Up next -> What is the best thing to do with your Genting Points and how to advantage play to win tournaments at Genting.

Previously I had written about comp hustling and accumulating Genting Points. Assuming you have managed to accumate a fair number, what then is the best way to use them?

If you look though the Genting Point redmention offers, you will find the best and worst ways to use your points are

Best Ways
========
1) Get hotel rooms
2) Take part in tournaments

Worst Ways
=========
1) Exchange them for food in the casino
2) Exchange them for travel rebates (e.g. petrol, bus, limosine)
3) Buy tacky seasonal items (e.g. mooncakes)
4) Play slots are the slot machine

Hotel Rooms
=========
For hotel rooms, something as little as 1 GP allows to leverage on a good deal. For just 1 GP, you can get a huge 30% discount on your hotel room booking. As such you should NEVER book a package from a tour agent. You should buy a 1 way bus ticket and use your GP to get a big discount on your hotel room. I mentioned a 1 way ticket as bus tickets are HALF PRICE at Genting. You can therefore save money by buying the return ticket at Genting.

If you are more than a casual gambler, you should use your GP to exchange for rooms. GP for dollar, it is much more worth it than spending it on anything else.

Tournaments
=========
Another good thing to use your GP for is to take part in tournaments. The cost for doing so is relatively low. If you win, you get a nice prize paid in nn chips. Assuming you use GP to get free hotel room, you therefore in effect are taking a free holiday with a chance to come home with RM 3K to RM 5K if you are lucky.

When taking part in tournaments, there are a whole host of advantage play techniques you can use to enhance your chances of winning. Previously I had talked about finding an unpopular game during the low season where there are few people playing. Based on experience, roulette is usually such a game.

If you are playing in a roulette tournament, the following is a simple advantage play which will significantly enhance your chances of winning if no other advantage players are in the tournament.

1) Check the rules and bet the minimum amount that the rules specify. This will usually be a single bet on a single number.

2) Continue making this single bet until the end of the tournament.

3) At the very last spin, bet ALL your chips on either black/red, evens/odds.

Assuming no 1 else is using this strategy, this gives you almost a 50% chance of winning the tournament. This is because you have minimised your bets and thus your losses throughout the tournament. The variance in the final bet if such that the house edge is meaningless. If you win, you win the tournament and the prize (RM 3K to RM 5K). If you lose, you only lose the Genting points you used to take part.

 

[aurvandil]

Forgot to add that if you do win nn chips as a prize, don't do things like sell RM 3k nn for RM 2500 cash. You will do much better using comp hustle techniques to convert the nn chips to cash and earn GP which you can then use for your next trip/tournament !

 

[giggsy11]

Dealer has an upcard value of 10.

You are playing 3 hands and ur points are ...

Hand 1 = hard 12
Hand 2 = hard 14
Hand 3 = hard 16

1) Will u surrender all ?
3) Will u stand all ?
3) If u were to surrender one hand, which one will u choose and why ?
4) If u were to hit on one hand, which one will u choose and why ?

 

[giggsy11]

Genting Silvercard can change to RWS silvercard and you bring either RWS or Genting silvercard, can go to MBS counter and get MBS silvercard

noted bro.

 

[silverfox@]

Dealer has an upcard value of 10.

You are playing 3 hands and ur points are ...

Hand 1 = hard 12
Hand 2 = hard 14
Hand 3 = hard 16

1) Will u surrender all ?
3) Will u stand all ?
3) If u were to surrender one hand, which one will u choose and why ?
4) If u were to hit on one hand, which one will u choose and why ?

Hard 16, 14 surrender.
Hard 12 hit to at least 17 up.

Surrendering will lose less compared to stand or hit for 14,16
Hit 12 up will lose less compared to surrendering or stand.

 

[jw5]

Dealer has an upcard value of 10.

You are playing 3 hands and ur points are ...

Hand 1 = hard 12
Hand 2 = hard 14
Hand 3 = hard 16

1) Will u surrender all ?
3) Will u stand all ?
3) If u were to surrender one hand, which one will u choose and why ?
4) If u were to hit on one hand, which one will u choose and why ?

1. Why is there no option for hit all?

2. How many other players / hands are there?

3. How many 10 / picture cards are open?

4. How many decks are there in the shuffler?

 

[jw5]

Hard 16, 14 surrender.
Hard 12 hit to at least 17 up.

Surrendering will lose less compared to stand or hit for 14,16
Hit 12 up will lose less compared to surrendering or stand.

Sorry, don't understand your last 2 sentences.
Can understand your wanting to hit on 12 and surrender the other 2.

 

[silverfox@]

Sorry, don't understand your last 2 sentences.
Can understand your wanting to hit on 12 and surrender the other 2.

A lot of books actually talked about Hitting and Surrendering and most books do not explain why. Just like lots of theories quoted in links which are very brief and no explanation.

My friend read a book before and explained to me that having hard cards such as 12,13,14,15,16 are cards where you don't make any money from having such cards. He calls them weakest cards.

There is no way to make these cards become winners, even if you hit, surrender, stand. Especially when dealer has a 10. The winning probability for dealer is so much higher than player. So at this point of time, selecting the best option is to find the decision which makes losing lesser than the normal in the long run.

He quoted me as saying would you prefer losing a dollar for 500 out of 1000 times or would you prefer losing a dollar for 600 out of 1000 times. If you have an option of losing a dollar for 400 out of 1000 times, you would definitely choose it. He told me that in blackjack playing, you have to accept the fact that some cards will win, some cards will lose. But if we are in a situation that is highly likely to lose, choose 1 situation that will make us lose less money. This is what he calls defensive play.

Surrender 14 and 16 when dealer has a 10 will ensure losing less chips compared to hitting or standing in all situations combined.
Hitting on 12 when dealer has a 10 will lose less than the option of surrendering.

 

[silverfox@]

1. Why is there no option for hit all?

2. How many other players / hands are there?

3. How many 10 / picture cards are open?

4. How many decks are there in the shuffler?

For question 3, it doesn't matter because applying card counting on a shuffling machine deck is applying emotions on gameplay which no longer applies.

For question 4, the usual 4 or 6 decks, the same rule must be applied too.

For question 1, hitting on 14, 16 when dealer has a 10, when you win, you are lucky, when you lose, its expected. Surrendering 1000 times when you have it 1000 times will lose 500 bets total, much less than hitting or standing.

For question 2, presume that he is the only player with 3 bases, the same option still applies

 

[giggsy11]

Hard 16, 14 surrender.
Hard 12 hit to at least 17 up.

Surrendering will lose less compared to stand or hit for 14,16
Hit 12 up will lose less compared to surrendering or stand.

Bro, why must we choose 12 to hit? Is it because only 10-value cards can make us bust ?

 

[silverfox@]

Bro, why must we choose 12 to hit? Is it because only 10-value cards can make us bust ?

This is part of reason.

However 1 big common mistake is if there are 5 players who are playing on the table and if you are the last player having seen 3 small value cards out of deck consecutively, you might think the next card might be a value-10 and decided not to hit. This is a very common error committed by blackjack players because don't forget you cannot count the cards. Every round is a fresh round.

You have to hit. Although you have 4 chances of busting, you will incur less losses long run by hitting. By waiting for dealer to bust is not a solution.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

Yesterday I briefly read some BlackJack books in Books Kinokuniya. These books normally have topics like.....

(1) Can You Spot the Suckers ?

(2) How Not to Be a Sucker ?

After an hour there I bought the Baccarat books I want & go home

 

[Heart Break Kid]

Previously I had written about comp hustling and accumulating Genting Points. Assuming you have managed to accumate a fair number, what then is the best way to use them?

If you look though the Genting Point redmention offers, you will find the best and worst ways to use your points are

Best Ways
========
1) Get hotel rooms
2) Take part in tournaments

Worst Ways
=========
1) Exchange them for food in the casino
2) Exchange them for travel rebates (e.g. petrol, bus, limosine)
3) Buy tacky seasonal items (e.g. mooncakes)
4) Play slots are the slot machine

Hotel Rooms
=========
For hotel rooms, something as little as 1 GP allows to leverage on a good deal. For just 1 GP, you can get a huge 30% discount on your hotel room booking. As such you should NEVER book a package from a tour agent. You should buy a 1 way bus ticket and use your GP to get a big discount on your hotel room. I mentioned a 1 way ticket as bus tickets are HALF PRICE at Genting. You can therefore save money by buying the return ticket at Genting.

If you are more than a casual gambler, you should use your GP to exchange for rooms. GP for dollar, it is much more worth it than spending it on anything else.

As compared, MBS only offered 30% on hotel rooms charges above $359+++ per night.
If members take up this offer, the members will get $50 on Destination points to offset their shopping expenses in MBS.

Premier Dollars can only redeem meals in casual restaurants within the hotels & casino.

The Premier Advantage points earned is prettty useless otherwise is to upgrade card level into Gold/Platinum/Diamond.
Not much of a difference unless we are Paiza club members.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

Yesterday I briefly read some BlackJack books in Books Kinokuniya. These books normally have topics like.....

(1) Can You Spot the Suckers ?

(2) How Not to Be a Sucker ?

After an hour there I bought the Baccarat books I want & go home

Can any kind bros explain in layman term why Amercian authors like to use the word "Suckers" in their BlackJack books ?

 

[silverfox@]

As compared, MBS only offered 30% on hotel rooms charges above $359+++ per night.
If members take up this offer, the members will get $50 on Destination points to offset their shopping expenses in MBS.

Premier Dollars can only redeem meals in casual restaurants within the hotels & casino.

The Premier Advantage points earned is prettty useless otherwise is to upgrade card level into Gold/Platinum/Diamond.
Not much of a difference unless we are Paiza club members.

In genting, they are giving rooms almost free because there are simply too many and they want to attract people to go up the mountain which is not really accessible. When you start collecting lots of GP by the hundreds and thousands in a 2-3 day sitting, you will realise that you have no use for them except to spend them in restaurants.

The PR managers will call you up and you don't even need to use points to exchange for room. They will give you 2 nights free. Highland or Genting Hotel, not 1st World Hotel (this one really no good).

Compared with local casinos, you need to spend 6 hrs via bus to there, or 4 hrs via air or 4 hrs+ via driving. Unless you going for short holiday then.

 

[silverfox@]

Can any kind bros explain in layman term why Amercian authors like to use the word "Suckers" in their BlackJack books ?

This one I am not sure. Probably their way of writing :o