Breaking News Escaped from Singapore - wife of Malaysian Prince SEX ABUSED!

uncleyap · Jun 6, 2009

Re: I decided to formally commend the SPF mata for this rescue :-)

Posting more and more rubbish is not going to help.

Silly questions are also not going to help, nor they deserve any answer.

No body even in the most private homes nor bed rooms can torture nor enslave another person against their free wills.

Spouses are EQUAL, regardless of Social Status & Ages.

Lame theory on age put you in worst position. :wink:

Hotel's management will also be guilty and need to be punished if they knew what illegal things were their guests doing and did not stop them nor report police. They will be also guilty for facilitating crimes if they cooperated with criminals to victimize people wrongfully imprisoned and tortured in the hotels.

You are just plain stupid to argue that way! :p

You can not be a guardian to SEX ABUSE nor Torture another person, YOU WILL ONLY BE MORE GUILTY and deserving more PUNISHMENTS when you got found out. Guardian, elder, seniors, teachers, parents etc are even more guilty of Rape & Torture & Enslaving & Unlawfully confining minors.

You dug your won graves with more lame crap arguments. :wink:

think_lees · Jun 6, 2009

sammyman666 said:
Alamak uncle, are you sure unlawful confinement and liberty of the person are referring to the same thing? I found the below from http://www.wwlegal.com

Liberty of the person

"No person shall be deprived of his life or personal liberty save in accordance with law."
Article 9(1) of the Constitution

Basically this means you cannot be arrested without a lawful reason.

If you believe that your detention is unlawful, you can make a complaint and the High Court can look into this. If the judge is not satisfied that the arrest is lawful, the judge can order that you be produced before the Court and set free.

You have to be told as soon as possible, the reasons for your arrest and you can choose a lawyer to represent you. If you are arrested and not released, you have to be brought before a magistrate with 48 hours of your arrest. You can only be detained further if the magistrate says so. However, the rights in this paragraph do not apply to:-

1. an enemy alien (that's an enemy of Singapore, ', ');
2. a person arrested for contempt of Parliament;
3. a person arrested and detained in the interest of public safety, peace and good order; and/or
4. a person arrested and detained for drug treatment and rehabilitation.

Source: http://www.wwlegal.com/module-subjects-viewpage-pageid-13.html

PAP govt is CHEATING even with their own laws again and again. That's why there is no respect for them.

HongKanSeng · Jun 6, 2009

Confirmed hong kan seng cheated with law!

Malaysian Police Chief told Malaysian News that Police Report was filed by Ma Nohara in SINGAPORE. But Hong Kan Seng's mata did NOTHING ABOUT IT. She did not reported mata in Malaysia but Singapore - this is what the Malaysian Police Chief Said!

http://malaysiakini.com/

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Manohara exchanges barbs with Soberi on TV
Tarani Palani | Jun 5, 09 3:03pm
* manohara odelia pinotAppearing composed, Manohara exchanges insults with her estranged husband's confidant Mohd Soberi Shafii live on Indonesian TV. [VIDEO INSIDE]MORE
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First confrontation since escape
Manohara: I don't love him

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Abused by prince: No police report, no probe
Jun 5, 09 4:52pm
* However police chief Musa Hassan said teen model Manohara has lodged a report in Singapore.MORE
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Hisham: Media should be more responsible
Manohara's mom in trouble with Interpol

sammyman666 · Jun 6, 2009

think_lees said:
PAP govt is CHEATING even with their own laws again and again. That's why there is no respect for them.

Actually, the debate was on the actions of the police. It has nothing to do with whether there is respect for the PAP govt

By the way uncleyap, the legal term is not "unlawful confinement". It is quite disturbing that you can go around pulling laws into an argument as if you really know alot but when you actually know nothing?

uncleyap · Jun 6, 2009

sammyman666 said:
Actually, the debate was on the actions of the police. It has nothing to do with whether there is respect for the PAP govt

By the way uncleyap, the legal term is not "unlawful confinement". It is quite disturbing that you can go around pulling laws into an argument as if you really know alot but when you actually know nothing?

All you need is to read the following URLs: :smile:

sammyman666 · Jun 6, 2009

uncleyap said:
All you need is to read the following URLs: You still don't know much about me. Not important.
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Let me guess, you only just found it on google? What is Liberty of the Person anyway?

sammyman666 · Jun 6, 2009

Re: Confirmed hong kan seng cheated with law!

HongKanSeng said:
Malaysian Police Chief told Malaysian News that Police Report was filed by Ma Nohara in SINGAPORE. But Hong Kan Seng's mata did NOTHING ABOUT IT. She did not reported mata in Malaysia but Singapore - this is what the Malaysian Police Chief Said!

http://malaysiakini.com/

*
Manohara exchanges barbs with Soberi on TV
Tarani Palani | Jun 5, 09 3:03pm
* manohara odelia pinotAppearing composed, Manohara exchanges insults with her estranged husband's confidant Mohd Soberi Shafii live on Indonesian TV. [VIDEO INSIDE]MORE
*
First confrontation since escape
Manohara: I don't love him

*
Abused by prince: No police report, no probe
Jun 5, 09 4:52pm
* However police chief Musa Hassan said teen model Manohara has lodged a report in Singapore.MORE
*
Hisham: Media should be more responsible
Manohara's mom in trouble with Interpol

Yikes, where is the rest of the article?

uncleyap · Jun 6, 2009

sammyman666 said:
Let me guess, you only just found it on google? What is Liberty of the Person anyway?

If you know more about law than me then you should be explaining that to me. :p

I am no lawyer. But I managed to corner professional lawyers more and more often these days. I picked up things that the senior councils had left out occasionally. All that because the famiLEE LEEgime in the last 2 years played lame games of law with us, and activists and opposition fighters became sharpened and skilled in court.

Liberty of the person described how a person should have rights to be free from restrains and confinement. Not to be tied; bonded; locked up; confined or pushed around etc. Basic fundamental freedom provided by constitution starts from here then further provided protections to freedom of speech & assembly and equality etc.

If you followed the PART IV from article 9 to 16. Basically the progress begins from 9 (liberty of person) then to person's freedom, then to rights religion and then education.

There is no meaning to have cart before horse, e.g. educational rights when one had become a slave for example. Thus the order from 9 to 16 provided Liberty from the basic onwards towards the more advanced liberty:

PART IV

See shark's cousin smiling? That's <big>satire!</big>

SotongMee · Jun 6, 2009

Re: I decided to formally commend the SPF mata for this rescue :-)

Whores got no shame and they can act better than any SDP clowns.

Foreign whores also uses civil disobedience and total disregard of the law when they walk the streets of Geylang.

SDP clowns also the same, when they walk the streets, both never apply for permit.

uncleyap said:
NO CRIMINAL MATTER IS PRIVATE.

That is Public Justice and police business as well as responsibility of the Public Prosecutor.

Marital Rape and Unlawful Confinement inclusive.

There is no gray area nor fuzzy line. No Royal Exemption as well.

Royals are to personally set good positive moral examples.

Princess Diana & Prince Charles are poor moral examples, all committing adulteries. :(

Be Crystal Clear. The Kelantan Royals are trying to pull a fast one citing Private Matter What BS!?

sammyman666 · Jun 6, 2009

uncleyap said:
If you know more about law than me then you should be explaining that to me. :p

I am no lawyer. But I managed to corner professional lawyers more and more often these days. I picked up things that the senior councils had left out occasionally. All that because the famiLEE LEEgime in the last 2 years played lame games of law with us, and activists and opposition fighters became sharpened and skilled in court.

Liberty of the person described how a person should have rights to be free from restrains and confinement. Not to be tied; bonded; locked up; confined or pushed around etc. Basic fundamental freedom provided by constitution starts from here then further provided protections to freedom of speech & assembly and equality etc.

If you followed the PART IV from article 9 to 16. Basically the progress begins from 9 (liberty of person) then to person's freedom, then to rights religion and then education.

There is no meaning to have cart before horse, e.g. educational rights when one had become a slave for example. Thus the order from 9 to 16 provided Liberty from the basic onwards towards the more advanced liberty:

PART IV
<center> FUNDAMENTAL LIBERTIES </center><input name="req_sect" value="931158659-000274" type="checkbox"> 9 Liberty of the person
<input name="req_sect" value="931158659-000302" type="checkbox"> 10 Slavery and forced labour prohibited
<input name="req_sect" value="931158659-000314" type="checkbox"> 11 Protection against retrospective criminal laws and repeated trials
<input name="req_sect" value="931158659-000323" type="checkbox"> 12 Equal protection
<input name="req_sect" value="931158659-000341" type="checkbox"> 13 Prohibition of banishment and freedom of movement
<input name="req_sect" value="931158659-000350" type="checkbox"> 14 Freedom of speech, assembly and association
<input name="req_sect" value="931158659-000380" type="checkbox"> 15 Freedom of religion
<input name="req_sect" value="931158659-000404" type="checkbox"> 16 Rights in respect of education

See shark's cousin smiling? That's <big>satire!</big>

I don't know sh*t about law. But if a few google searches can expose your shortcomings, that is just real sad. Real sad for you and whatever you stand for. The regime must be very successful in keeping the quality of the opposition down

cleareyes · Jun 6, 2009

Re: I decided to formally commend the SPF mata for this rescue :-)

Since you have once again display your inability to answer question by questions, or in this case, statement by statement, I shall do the opposite by answering every paragraph, something which you are too inable to do.

uncleyap said:
Posting more and more rubbish is not going to help.

If pointing out the sensitivity regarding the situation is "rubbish", then illogical and irrational display from you is not?

uncleyap said:
Silly questions are also not going to help, nor they deserve any answer.

A question is consider by you to be silly if you are not able to answer them. In your case, you know by answering any of them, you will find yourself very much exposed for the lack of knowledge.

So by not answering and yet avoding the questin and call them silly, you are doing what you have always "accuse" the PAP been doing, avoding the situation.

uncleyap said:
No body even in the most private homes nor bed rooms can torture nor enslave another person against their free wills.

Yes, no body can and should torture anyone in their homes against the will of the torturee, yet have torture been proven? Has it been proven that the torturee had been done so against their will?

If the torture is done out of recreation and in your insistance that police MUST interfere, is not not considering breaching of personal and private space?

uncleyap said:
Spouses are EQUAL, regardless of Social Status & Ages.

Based on what law and what religion and what situation?

Lets look at the facts, something which you will avoid but can never debuck or deny:
The husband is in his 30s whereas the wife is 17. Is the wife consider as a minor or a legal adult? Which law state what?
Both husband and wife are Muslims. How does islamic law practise in MALAYSIA cover the role of the spouse and their sphere of responsiblity?

Are you going to answer the above, or are you going to avoid them and call them "silly"?

uncleyap said:
Lame theory on age put you in worst position.

Lame theory on age? are you saying that making age limit on legality lame? are you saying that a 10 year old can tale responsiblity as the same as a 21 year old adult?

uncleyap said:
Hotel's management will also be guilty and need to be punished if they knew what illegal things were their guests doing and did not stop them nor report police. They will be also guilty for facilitating crimes if they cooperated with criminals to victimize people wrongfully imprisoned and tortured in the hotels.

So are you saying that hotels must vet through all activities that happen within their rooms? Must the hotels report on how many couples fuck tin their ooms, how many got drunk, how many yell at each other?

Do you even know what does it mean by "show me the corpse"?

uncleyap said:
You are just plain stupid to argue that way! :p

Stupid because you cant answer and so you consider the points stupid?

Wow...typical Singaporean attitude, and you claim to hate LKY and PAP when you behave like them?

uncleyap said:
You can not be a guardian to SEX ABUSE nor Torture another person, YOU WILL ONLY BE MORE GUILTY and deserving more PUNISHMENTS when you got found out. Guardian, elder, seniors, teachers, parents etc are even more guilty of Rape & Torture & Enslaving & Unlawfully confining minors.

When one partner is consider of a minor, the other is consider is the legal guardian.

But then you are going onto your torture crap as usual.

uncleyap said:
You dug your won graves with more lame crap arguments.

I m not dgging any grave, but then, you are no lawyer and hence, your illogical and irrational display had digged a bigger grave for yourself. I can see why most of the opposition had stayed away from you. You can always claim you debuck which lawyer blah blah blah. but lawyers just dont want to argue with you, simply because you are a hooligan and a waste of time when you can never display the same level of rational arguement that others can.

uncleyap · Jun 7, 2009

Re: I decided to formally commend the SPF mata for this rescue :-)

No need to prove it, it is obvious that your LEEgime dogs are desperate.

:biggrin:

That is why I insist that at LEEgime fighters must hit hard and precisely on where it really hurts.

:cool:

uncleyap · Jun 7, 2009

sammyman666 said:
I don't know sh*t about law. But if a few google searches can expose your shortcomings, that is just real sad. Real sad for you and whatever you stand for. The regime must be very successful in keeping the quality of the opposition down

Empty vessels false claiming baseless hoax. Typical of PAp supporters.

:wink:

uncleyap · Jun 7, 2009

Re: I decided to formally commend the SPF mata for this rescue :-)

What is there further more to laugh at you? You had shot yourself all over.

Marriage with a MINOR itself is already a crime, still you can be foolish enough to think that was an excuse? :p :biggrin:

Having Sex & Marriage with a Minor is a very serious offense. Such unlawful marriage automatically becomes null & void and offenders to be punished.

I won't even put you to answer the dozens of wide opened self-defeating arguments which you put out in stupidity and desperation, still want to try?

So desperate huh?

:wink:

sammyman666 · Jun 7, 2009

uncleyap said:
Empty vessels false claiming baseless hoax. Typical of PAp supporters.

Actually, the first sentence doesn't make sense. What hoax?

uncleyap · Jun 7, 2009

sammyman666 said:
Actually, the first sentence doesn't make sense. What hoax?

Never mind. No need internet search. No need to talk about law.

Just search conscience and check moral is sufficient.

Marriage with a woman as young as 17 by an adult prince and then followed by captivity and sex abuses & depriving visit of her mother is completely immoral and unacceptable. It is bully, exploitation, abuse, selfish, coward, and audacious.

Enforcement evaded duty to uphold public justice and law is shameful and negligence and malfeasance. Although the rescue to freedom had been commended accordingly, the lack of justice come from letting the culprits get away Deliberately. This part is also coward.

I am putting it so plain and simple as well as fair and square.

Save all the time and lengthy debates. Yawn.. Me want sleep liao.

halsey02 · Jun 7, 2009

uncleyap said:
Never mind. No need internet search. No need to talk about law.

Just search conscience and check moral is sufficient.

Marriage with a woman as young as 17 by an adult prince and then followed by captivity and sex abuses & depriving visit of her mother is completely immoral and unacceptable. It is bully, exploitation, abuse, selfish, coward, and audacious.

Enforcement evaded duty to uphold public justice and law is shameful and negligence and malfeasance. Although the rescue to freedom had been commended accordingly, the lack of justice come from letting the culprits get away Deliberately. This part is also coward.

I am putting it so plain and simple as well as fair and square.

Save all the time and lengthy debates. Yawn.. Me want sleep liao.

You want to talk about concience here?, for money the 17 year old girl was willing to be screwed by the PRINCE...it is all money, power & connection!..........

:mad:

uncleyap · Jun 7, 2009

halsey02 said:
You want to talk about concience here?, for money the 17 year old girl was willing to be screwed by the PRINCE...it is all money, power & connection!..........

:pIf Ma Nohara had taken money in agreement to SM Sex and then regretted, then Malaysian Prince should had said so in publicity. :biggrin:

If Royals did not clarified this way, then nothing beyond a usual marriage involving common bride-price aka <big>聘金</big> could be assumed.

Unless you want to tell us that you are the official spokesman of the palace? :wink:

uncleyap · Jun 7, 2009

Unless you are trying to say that 2 WRONGS can Make 1 Right?

Otherwise, the part of Man Nohara's parent consenting to marriage of daughter at age 17 to Malaysian prince does not come into the picture to help the WRONGS done by the royals as well as the WRONGS by famiLEE LEEgime, failing to take action against WRONGFUL CONFINEMENT & violation of law done in Singapore's hotel.

I understand from news that Ma Nohara's father an American had OPPOSED the marriage. The mother was the one making the mistake. She must had regreted it and tried to save her daugther after learning the truth about that prince.

Whatever the case with the marriage arangement, there shouldn't be abuse and sex slavery regardless of the background of the marriage. In any legal marriage, wives are not supposed to be abused that way, it is a crime that need to be punished. Similarly wives can not abuse husbands and if so should be eaually wrong.

:-)

Two Wrongs don't make a right in any case.

sammyman666 · Jun 7, 2009

uncleyap said:
Never mind. No need internet search. No need to talk about law.

Just search conscience and check moral is sufficient.

Marriage with a woman as young as 17 by an adult prince and then followed by captivity and sex abuses & depriving visit of her mother is completely immoral and unacceptable. It is bully, exploitation, abuse, selfish, coward, and audacious.

Enforcement evaded duty to uphold public justice and law is shameful and negligence and malfeasance. Although the rescue to freedom had been commended accordingly, the lack of justice come from letting the culprits get away Deliberately. This part is also coward.

I am putting it so plain and simple as well as fair and square.

Save all the time and lengthy debates. Yawn.. Me want sleep liao.

What nevermind? You are using words in a non-sensical fashion.

As far as I am concerned, the police are still investigating:

Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan, who was present, said: "The report has been lodged in Singapore, so Singapore is investigating.":

http://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/bnm/20090605/tts-hishammuddin-manohara-bm-993ba14.html

Hishammuddin declined to disclose information from investigations conducted by the Singapore authorities.:

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/6/5/nation/20090605111253&sec=nation

Before you say the police will never do anything or the investigations will yield nothing, please be reminded that is jumping the gun and has nothing to do with what you are arguing about.

Breaking News Escaped from Singapore - wife of Malaysian Prince SEX ABUSED!

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