Big difference among Australian cities?

[redbull313]

That very interesting! You can buy a kit and build your own airplane??????

Only in USA!

Dont mind my asking? How much?

There's 1000s of them from a 5K ultralight upwards. A decent one will cost you about 50,000 though. BUt you can buy a decent cessna for 30,000 there's alot of them for sale. Its the plane my buddy wants me to train in.

There's also the lancair that can go 350 MPH and the kit will cost you 99,000.

http://www.kitplanes.com/

Also check out the flying car that was on our TV recently.....its a car that turns into a plane that you can park in your garage.

http://www.terrafugia.com/

 

[n1etzche]

wow that's really strange, i was under the impression that everyone who live in america travel on their own GVs...

There's 1000s of them from a 5K ultralight upwards. A decent one will cost you about 50,000 though. BUt you can buy a decent cessna for 30,000 there's alot of them for sale. Its the plane my buddy wants me to train in.

There's also the lancair that can go 350 MPH and the kit will cost you 99,000.

http://www.kitplanes.com/

Also check out the flying car that was on our TV recently.....its a car that turns into a plane that you can park in your garage.

http://www.terrafugia.com/

 

[Aussie Prick]

There's 1000s of them from a 5K ultralight upwards. A decent one will cost you about 50,000 though. BUt you can buy a decent cessna for 30,000 there's alot of them for sale. Its the plane my buddy wants me to train in.

There's also the lancair that can go 350 MPH and the kit will cost you 99,000.

http://www.kitplanes.com/

Also check out the flying car that was on our TV recently.....its a car that turns into a plane that you can park in your garage.

http://www.terrafugia.com/

OMG! A Car that can fly and its already in production????? I see it costs 148K which is about as much as a luxury car here in Singapore. Hmmm. Damm very interesting!

That is what I love about the US - its the ultimate place to enjoy things like this. Other countries just cant offer all this.

 

[IWC2006]

I was asking a Singaporean IT professional. He told me that the IT standard in Perth is really bad. He need to get out because of the dumb things the IT people are doing. Should he move east to Brissy, Melb or Syd?

Actually, it is not that bad for me. Because of bad IT, I am able to access staff accounts that I should not. Eg that nasty Scot has a password that remind him of home, nessie. He has nice SPG pictures of this Singapore-based expat staff who is a cheongster. My asian IT people say it is safe because they do not keep a logbook on which asset is accessing the accounts.

Head to Sydney or Melb where most of the MNC/HQ are based for a IT career. The rest of the cities in Australia are for child's play only, on well, except mining & gov.

 

[fishbuff]

Head to Sydney or Melb where most of the MNC/HQ are based for a IT career. The rest of the cities in Australia are for child's play only, on well, except mining & gov.

contract rates are better there too. not to mention ample contract opportunities.

 

[fishbuff]

I was asking a Singaporean IT professional. He told me that the IT standard in Perth is really bad. He need to get out because of the dumb things the IT people are doing. Should he move east to Brissy, Melb or Syd?

Actually, it is not that bad for me. Because of bad IT, I am able to access staff accounts that I should not. Eg that nasty Scot has a password that remind him of home, nessie. He has nice SPG pictures of this Singapore-based expat staff who is a cheongster. My asian IT people say it is safe because they do not keep a logbook on which asset is accessing the accounts.

a passive it guys will depend on what had been there; installed and built by predecessors, to work and follow. and yes, they will grumble but wont lift a finger to change it.

a good and proactive it guy will see the shortcoming or weakness of the system and suggest solution or ideas to improve or rectify the situation.

i had been to 2 workplaces before and i wrote scripts to automate code deployment, monitoring, backups, cloning etc.. all of which were done manually nor they have any idea on how to do them.

 

[neddy]

a passive it guys will depend on what had been there; installed and built by predecessors, to work and follow. and yes, they will grumble but wont lift a finger to change it.

a good and proactive it guy will see the shortcoming or weakness of the system and suggest solution or ideas to improve or rectify the situation.

i had been to 2 workplaces before and i wrote scripts to automate code deployment, monitoring, backups, cloning etc.. all of which were done manually nor they have any idea on how to do them.

This IT guy is newly employed. He got the job but the interview sucks.
He was complaining to me that the first interview question is ........ Give me 3 characteristics of good data. 2nd question is ........ How do you know whether a program has bugs. One of the questions is "How do you feel after solving a bug?"

This interviewer is a Senior Business System Analyst earning close to $90k. This newly employed Singaporean is her "junior" staff (even with more than 10 years IT experience in Singapore) earning $67k.

I think I will see fireworks down the road if these 2 employees do not swap roles.

 

[neddy]

Head to Sydney or Melb where most of the MNC/HQ are based for a IT career. The rest of the cities in Australia are for child's play only, on well, except mining & gov.

So far, the organisations who really send the people for certified IT training are the Government and Mining companies.

We are spending heaps on AJEX, PRINCE and Black Belt. These IT guys come back with skills on flexiReports that allows me to put in entities in pivot tables and self generate charts. No need IT staff to churn out the figures. Very easy to use and cool for our reporting.

Do you know that the British-Aussie insurer who does insurance for AFL footy outsource the IT to Bali and return with toxic pasta programme.

 

[redbull313]

OMG! A Car that can fly and its already in production????? I see it costs 148K which is about as much as a luxury car here in Singapore. Hmmm. Damm very interesting!

That is what I love about the US - its the ultimate place to enjoy things like this. Other countries just cant offer all this.

Oh ya whatever ya want you can find it here................

 

[ManBearPig62]

This IT guy is newly employed. He got the job but the interview sucks.
This interviewer is a Senior Business System Analyst earning close to $90k. This newly employed Singaporean is her "junior" staff (even with more than 10 years IT experience in Singapore) earning $67k.

That's starting level pay for large companies in Sydney/Melbourne.

He should definitely move for the opportunities, but just a caveat - living costs may be slightly higher.

Senior System Analyst white dumbbitch who just graduate 2 years ago

How the hell you'd get to be a "senior" BA at 90K with only 2 years experience??? White man's club?

She's got at least a Masters, yes?

 

[IWC2006]

That's starting level pay for large companies in Sydney/Melbourne.

He should definitely move for the opportunities, but just a caveat - living costs may be slightly higher.

How the hell you'd get to be a "senior" BA at 90K with only 2 years experience??? White man's club?

She's got at least a Masters, yes?

my guess is the smaller cities are less competitive and lack of good talents. Most talents move to the bigger cities or overseas(us/europe) for better opportunities.

 

[neddy]

That's starting level pay for large companies in Sydney/Melbourne.

He should definitely move for the opportunities, but just a caveat - living costs may be slightly higher.



How the hell you'd get to be a "senior" BA at 90K with only 2 years experience??? White man's club?

She's got at least a Masters, yes?

My new understanding is that the former IT manager who employed her was in retirement mode. The mining people have sucked up all IT & procurement people. As a result, every staff in Perth moved up one level to keep the staff happy.
Things went well until the new IT manager came on board and wanted to be on-the-ball.

Let's face it. This is not the only case I know.

 

[Aussie Prick]

Oh ya whatever ya want you can find it here................

I got a colleague here who is very very interested in the flying car. He says he would use it to fly to Malaysia. People in my office were blown away by the terrafigia flying car.

As I said, only in the USA.

 

[neddy]

my guess is the smaller cities are less competitive and lack of good talents. Most talents move to the bigger cities or overseas(us/europe) for better opportunities.

It is not uncommon to advertise interstate for special IT needs.

But in Perth, the skills like ETL, report services, analysis cubes are highly desirable, esp now in July when we need to report on last financial year.

Sometimes, it is not the IT people's fault. doctors, lecturers are some of the most resistance to system upgrades.

I just heard from another IT person that he finally managed to get the doctors to upgrade from Access 2.0. That is after the IT guy put out an ad asking for scrapyards to supply a working Windows95 PC to work with Access2.0.

One of the doctors, in the process of criticising the IT people for not using WindowXP (I think it is XP) to run Access2.0, was in turn criticised by some of his learned peers for using such an old programme.

 

[fishbuff]

This IT guy is newly employed. He got the job but the interview sucks.
He was complaining to me that the first interview question is ........ Give me 3 characteristics of good data. 2nd question is ........ How do you know whether a program has bugs. One of the questions is "How do you feel after solving a bug?"

This interviewer is a Senior Business System Analyst earning close to $90k. This newly employed Singaporean is her "junior" staff (even with more than 10 years IT experience in Singapore) earning $67k.

I think I will see fireworks down the road if these 2 employees do not swap roles.

this is another classic case of good staffs that can outperform their seniors. but the actual attitude is; if one is competent in his line of work, he should not worry about who is better, but how he can contribute to the group. Or perhaps that is contractor's attitude.

my pet peeve is comparing contractors to contractors on rates. at a customer's place, i was doing most of the work and this pommie dba took over another dba's contract or what left of it and drew $30/hr more than me. The acting team lead expected me to teach him about the technical details. I knew he can't perform (cant do release, migration, patching, scripting .. zero nada) but he sure can talk and i wish he can just shutup for once... eventually he managed to sweet talked and get his contract renewed. if one can talk, he can get his way around and cover most of his mistakes.

another setup i dislike is when the team lead is a contractor drawing $100+/hr, shortchange the renumeration to his subordinates and expect them to do all the works while they sit back. i dont mind doing the work for him, but at least pay me my worth..

 

[IWC2006]

this is another classic case of good staffs that can outperform their seniors. but the actual attitude is; if one is competent in his line of work, he should not worry about who is better, but how he can contribute to the group. Or perhaps that is contractor's attitude.

my pet peeve is comparing contractors to contractors on rates. at a customer's place, i was doing most of the work and this pommie dba took over another dba's contract or what left of it and drew $30/hr more than me. The acting team lead expected me to teach him about the technical details. I knew he can't perform (cant do release, migration, patching, scripting .. zero nada) but he sure can talk and i wish he can just shutup for once... eventually he managed to sweet talked and get his contract renewed. if one can talk, he can get his way around and cover most of his mistakes.

another setup i dislike is when the team lead is a contractor drawing $100+/hr, shortchange the renumeration to his subordinates and expect them to do all the works while they sit back. i dont mind doing the work for him, but at least pay me my worth..

unfortunately when it comes to renumeration (perm or contractors), there is no standard or fair trade, employers are only obliged to pay u the minimum award required for the job. When my previous employer was urgently looking for skilled contractors, the rate differences amongst various contractors could range from $10-$50 per hour, even though their skills are quite similiar. those who are out of job/contract normally have less bargaining power, those who are 'poached' to join via recommendation or his previous experience with the same employer have higher bargaining power. of course those who go direct instead of via recruiter have less overhead cost for employer, thus it benefits both. Its the same for perm, i started the same level with someone who have less PM experience than me though my boss kept stressing my pay is higher than me, i seriously doubt so.

 

[scroobal]

When I first started life as a young working adult, I drew one conclusion very quickly. Never ever take a role or function which is essentially support. They are treated as servants and the tendency to listen to people who are less qualified and less smarter than you is significantly higher. The remuneration might be high but one should not lose one's dignity. Its similar to well paid prostitute in a nightclub.

I have since helped guide careers of those who are family and friends of families. Be a doctor in a hospital, a policeman in a police station, an engineer in an engineering company, an IT professional in an IT company and dancer in a dance company. Its a huge difference.

The daughter of a friend did academically well that after her postgrad with HBS was picked by McKinsey. It took her about 18 mths to figure out that she was dealing with people that have little standard in terms of mind and vision. She reckoned thats why they are highly paid, if not the people will just leave. She left and is with the United Nations in Geneva. She told me that escorts, prostitutes and consultants are paid to listen and take orders to do things that a normal person will not do. Hence the high remuneration.

I know a lady who went into the IT field years ago after completing oxford and post grad in HBS. She went on to head the IT Dept in the World Bank for over 2 decades. She now consults for Gartner. She told me the exact same thing. She admitted she was an intellectual snob and has no time to deal with idiots and has no intention to be told by someone not qualified in the field how to do the job. She only gives advice to IT professionals and senior clients on how to lay out roadmaps.

Sometimes, it is not the IT people's fault. doctors, lecturers are some of the most resistance to system upgrades.

 

[scroobal]

The same thing is happening in Singapore and its singapopreans who are getting screwed by smooth talking angmos. We are talking about underqualified and underperforming foreign arseholes and sadly in their own backyard.

if one can talk, he can get his way around and cover most of his mistakes.

another setup i dislike is when the team lead is a contractor drawing $100+/hr, shortchange the renumeration to his subordinates and expect them to do all the works while they sit back. i dont mind doing the work for him, but at least pay me my worth..

 

[scroobal]

I know you expressed to move professionally to the UK in the past. Its actually worse in the UK but some much better in US where asians and IT are well regarded and supported. You find very elderly chaps with senior positions in IT plodding along failing to upgrade themselves. The young ones are Americans and the coolies are the Asians. The Americans end up doing the leading edge work while the rest just do support.

The UK cost of living is much cheaper after taking out accommodation. So make sure that you go for a big number to cover the inequality.

Its the same for perm, i started the same level with someone who have less PM experience than me though my boss kept stressing my pay is higher than me, i seriously doubt so.

 

[Leongsam]

When I first started life as a young working adult, I drew one conclusion very quickly. Never ever take a role or function which is essentially support.

And I learnt that the best way to earn a living was to operate in an environment where face to face contact wasn't required when interacting with fellow members of the human race.