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18 Fake Foreign Talent Jailed

nycheong

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.....18 Chinese nationals jailed over fake degrees
By Faris Mokhtar | Yahoo! Newsroom – 10 hours ago..........The Chinese workers said they knew their degrees were fake


..For their involvement in a fake degree scam, at least 18 foreign workers from China were sentenced earlier this week to jail in Singapore for four weeks each.

The workers had been found by a local court to have provided forged certificates to obtain work passes to work for T Y Enterprise and Sun Blues Cleaning Maintenance.

A spokesman for the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) said that while another 10 workers from China will be charged with similar offences on Thursday, another nine are being repatriated after being served with warning letters “for providing false information to MOM’s employment inspectors”.

Arriving in Singapore early last year, the 37 Chinese nationals in all had applied for employment and S passes with “university degrees” in hotel management from Jiangsu, Shandong and Henan universities.

While the workers knew their degrees were fake and had lied in their applications for employment passes, they claimed they had little choice after having paid S$8,000 each to agents in China to land a job here.

However, the promise of a high-paying job was dashed after they found themselves scrubbing floors and clearing rubbish. It is understood that some of them were farmers back home and had landed jobs as cleaning supervisors.

The three universities mentioned do not offer a degree in hotel management and that the degrees were fake, The New Paper reported.

Meanwhile, the employers who were involved in hiring the workers, a total of 17 men and 1 woman, will be charged in court at a later date.

One of the workers, Liu Demin, 36, had pleaded to the court for leniency when his case was heard on Tuesday, saying that he had paid a substantial amount to the agent.

Speaking to the court interpreter in Mandarin, he said, “If I did not follow his instructions (about the forged degree certificate), I would not get the money back. I have to support sickly parents and two school-going children.”

In June this year, the same paper had reported that Liu and another worker, Wang Kangxun, 31, had complained about the unusual pay practice adopted by their company.

It was this issue which shed light to the fake degree scam.

The workers were each paid a monthly salary of S$2,650 which was transferred into their bank accounts, but after payday, they each had to return around S$1,600 to a man sent by their employer. They claimed not to have known why there were asked to do that.

For an S pass holder, the worker must have a fixed monthly salary of at least $2,000, and at least a degree or diploma while the minimum salary for Employment Pass holders is $2,800.

While such scams are not new, non-governmental group Transient Workers Count Too (TWC2) said this is the largest case of employers using workers with fake certificates. Its spokesman alleged that the employers use the scam to get around the dependency ceiling imposed by MOM.

For making false declaration in a work pass application, the Chinese nationals could have been fined up to $15,000 and/or sentenced up to 12 months’ jail.

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Sperminator

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degrees can be bought... accreditation can be bought as well... those PRC people should have been smart enough to purchase degrees from unscrupulous universities that sell their degrees for profit... want to lie, lie all the way... don't lie half way.
 

Prometheus888

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They were jailed for their stupidity and worse, for assuming that the judge is as stupid as them to buy their bullshit....

too bad bitches.... off you go....
 

Cestbon

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That why I always fuck ministers and MOM come out with S-pass. No S-pass all this will not happen. Just work permit for all FT working here only one type of pass regardless qualification and pay the same levy.
Those high post sure can afford to pay why they pay less compare to construction worker whose SG more respect than FT working in IT/service.

PAP eat shit.
 

king_of_abalone

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degrees can be bought... accreditation can be bought as well... those PRC people should have been smart enough to purchase degrees from unscrupulous universities that sell their degrees for profit... want to lie, lie all the way... don't lie half way.

You are not very bright yourself cos you can't read.

The agents who brought them over and did employment placement for them insisted that they buy the fake degrees in order to facilitate the agents' agreement to place them in jobs.

The farmers are not that exposed to the world and don't even know they required a degree (or even knew of he existence of fake degrees) to work.
 

Papsmearer

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Recognize this court case for what it is. Just a big PR exercise by MOM and the judicial system. this is done to give the appearance that the govt. is doing something about fake degrees and false visas, and to ensure the employers that the work force they are getting have all been vetted and the quality is there. If MOM and the police really go after all the fake degree holders here and their employers, they need to build another jail to house them. If MOM is serious, just set up a fake degree reporting hotline. They will get many tips from sinkies who know fake degree holders. eg. any filipino applying for IT position is already holding a fake degree. My experience is very few filipinos are good with a computer and software. This case is wayang bullshit.
 

Leongsam

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Only 18??? 99% of anything to do with China is fake. There should be at least 10,000 prosecutions per month.
 

Papsmearer

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Only 18??? 99% of anything to do with China is fake. There should be at least 10,000 prosecutions per month.

For once I agree with you, that is why I said they would have needed to build another jail.
 

Cestbon

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Recognize this court case for what it is. Just a big PR exercise by MOM and the judicial system. this is done to give the appearance that the govt. is doing something about fake degrees and false visas, and to ensure the employers that the work force they are getting have all been vetted and the quality is there. If MOM and the police really go after all the fake degree holders here and their employers, they need to build another jail to house them. If MOM is serious, just set up a fake degree reporting hotline. They will get many tips from sinkies who know fake degree holders. eg. any filipino applying for IT position is already holding a fake degree. My experience is very few filipinos are good with a computer and software. This case is wayang bullshit.

Should set up a department for reporting fake paper qualification.
The the person who reporting should get incentive eg. $1k or more.
 

†††††

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18 Chinese nationals jailed over fake degrees in SIngapore

why is it that i have yet to hear of pinoys "FTs" caught with fake degrees???
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For their involvement in a fake degree scam, at least 18 foreign workers from China were sentenced earlier this week to jail in Singapore for four weeks each.

The workers had been found by a local court to have provided forged certificates to obtain work passes to work for T Y Enterprise and Sun Blues Cleaning Maintenance.

A spokesman for the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) said that while another 10 workers from China will be charged with similar offences on Thursday, another nine are being repatriated after being served with warning letters “for providing false information to MOM’s employment inspectors”.

Arriving in Singapore early last year, the 37 Chinese nationals in all had applied for employment and S passes with “university degrees” in hotel management from Jiangsu, Shandong and Henan universities.

While the workers knew their degrees were fake and had lied in their applications for employment passes, they claimed they had little choice after having paid S$8,000 each to agents in China to land a job here.

However, the promise of a high-paying job was dashed after they found themselves scrubbing floors and clearing rubbish. It is understood that some of them were farmers back home and had landed jobs as cleaning supervisors.

The three universities mentioned do not offer a degree in hotel management and that the degrees were fake, The New Paper reported.

Meanwhile, the employers who were involved in hiring the workers, a total of 17 men and 1 woman, will be charged in court at a later date.

One of the workers, Liu Demin, 36, had pleaded to the court for leniency when his case was heard on Tuesday, saying that he had paid a substantial amount to the agent.

Speaking to the court interpreter in Mandarin, he said, “If I did not follow his instructions (about the forged degree certificate), I would not get the money back. I have to support sickly parents and two school-going children.”

In June this year, the same paper had reported that Liu and another worker, Wang Kangxun, 31, had complained about the unusual pay practice adopted by their company.

It was this issue which shed light to the fake degree scam.

The workers were each paid a monthly salary of S$2,650 which was transferred into their bank accounts, but after payday, they each had to return around S$1,600 to a man sent by their employer. They claimed not to have known why there were asked to do that.

For an S pass holder, the worker must have a fixed monthly salary of at least $2,000, and at least a degree or diploma while the minimum salary for Employment Pass holders is $2,800.

While such scams are not new, non-governmental group Transient Workers Count Too (TWC2) said this is the largest case of employers using workers with fake certificates. Its spokesman alleged that the employers use the scam to get around the dependency ceiling imposed by MOM.

For making false declaration in a work pass application, the Chinese nationals could have been fined up to $15,000 and/or sentenced up to 12 months’ jail.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/18-chinese-nationals-jailed-over-fake-degrees.html
 

Capano2121

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Re: 18 Chinese nationals jailed over fake degrees in SIngapore

No need for pinoys to fake their qualifications lah! As long as their papers are from flipland, it's just a piece of paper that's all! It's just the brain deads in white choose to recognise it!
 

hokkien

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Re: 18 Chinese nationals jailed over fake degrees in SIngapore

The agents really earning big bucks :biggrin:
 

Unrepented

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Re: 18 Chinese nationals jailed over fake degrees in SIngapore

I wonder did MOM found out for themselves or on tip-off. Find out the answer for this and we can see where we are heading.:biggrin:


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The three universities mentioned do not offer a degree in hotel management and that the degrees were fake, The New Paper reported.

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halsey02

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Only 18??? 99% of anything to do with China is fake. There should be at least 10,000 prosecutions per month.

Catch a few to frighten a troop of monkeys, 10,000, you think they can catch that many? our 'poodles' are a barrel of monkeys.:biggrin:
 

makapaaa

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.....18 Chinese nationals jailed over fake degrees
By Faris Mokhtar | Yahoo! Newsroom – 10 hours ago..........The Chinese workers said they knew their degrees were fake


..For their involvement in a fake degree scam, at least 18 foreign workers from China were sentenced earlier this week to jail in Singapore for four weeks each.

=> SUPER LIGHT SENTENCE by the

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The workers had been found by a local court to have provided forged certificates to obtain work passes to work for T Y Enterprise and Sun Blues Cleaning Maintenance.

A spokesman for the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) said that while another 10 workers from China will be charged with similar offences on Thursday, another nine are being repatriated after being served with warning letters “for providing false information to MOM’s employment inspectors”.

Arriving in Singapore early last year, the 37 Chinese nationals in all had applied for employment and S passes with “university degrees” in hotel management from Jiangsu, Shandong and Henan universities.

While the workers knew their degrees were fake and had lied in their applications for employment passes, they claimed they had little choice after having paid S$8,000 each to agents in China to land a job here.

However, the promise of a high-paying job was dashed after they found themselves scrubbing floors and clearing rubbish. It is understood that some of them were farmers back home and had landed jobs as cleaning supervisors.
=> Flogging Old SG Aunties & Uncles?

The three universities mentioned do not offer a degree in hotel management and that the degrees were fake, The New Paper reported.

Meanwhile, the employers who were involved in hiring the workers, a total of 17 men and 1 woman, will be charged in court at a later date.

One of the workers, Liu Demin, 36, had pleaded to the court for leniency when his case was heard on Tuesday, saying that he had paid a substantial amount to the agent.

Speaking to the court interpreter in Mandarin, he said, “If I did not follow his instructions (about the forged degree certificate), I would not get the money back. I have to support sickly parents and two school-going children.”

In June this year, the same paper had reported that Liu and another worker, Wang Kangxun, 31, had complained about the unusual pay practice adopted by their company.

It was this issue which shed light to the fake degree scam.

The workers were each paid a monthly salary of S$2,650 which was transferred into their bank accounts, but after payday, they each had to return around S$1,600 to a man sent by their employer. They claimed not to have known why there were asked to do that.
=> The more important question to ask then is why the FAP has allowed foreigners with this kind of salaries to come in? You mean they can't find SG grads to take up such jobs? Or they are eager to bring in such foreigners to replace SGs to out-vote SGs?

For an S pass holder, the worker must have a fixed monthly salary of at least $2,000, and at least a degree or diploma while the minimum salary for Employment Pass holders is $2,800.

While such scams are not new, non-governmental group Transient Workers Count Too (TWC2) said this is the largest case of employers using workers with fake certificates. Its spokesman alleged that the employers use the scam to get around the dependency ceiling imposed by MOM.

For making false declaration in a work pass application, the Chinese nationals could have been fined up to $15,000 and/or sentenced up to 12 months’ jail.

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Papsmearer

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Should set up a department for reporting fake paper qualification.
The the person who reporting should get incentive eg. $1k or more.

If MOL and MOM were smart, they can get a good money maker going. Law ministry passes law that allows caning for people who have or aid and abet fake degrees. MOM sets up fake degree hotline, pays $1000 per tip leading to successful prosecution. Police catch fake degree criminals, and courts find them guilty. Mandatory $10K fine or 10 strokes of the cane. No jail time. U will see these fuckers try to raise the $10,000 fine to avoid caning. No jail time means we don't waste money feeding them.
 
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