5.56mm ball is not enough for muslim terrorists, when will SAF change to 7.62mm ball

[singveld]

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that the photo of the MG42 7.62 round, so awesome. Longer and cooler than NATO 7.62

 

[singveld]

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you can train your whole family on 0.45?? In johor?
you have pistol licence in johor?

I piss on 9mm, i hate it, i much prefer 0.45 using 1911, better stopping power. I take 1911 any day than the glock.

Glock yucks. plastic shit. I hate the feel, i hate the looks.

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More bullets or more power on target? - Age old argument which i will not go into since i prefer large caliber bullets downrange myself. Same reason why i drilled my whole family on the .45 first and then the down to .38 Spl/9mm to finally the .22 (i know i started them the other way)

Stopping power was not the point i was discussing but accuracy as well as logistics. The accuracy of the round in semi auto weapons or even bolt action ones (think M40A3) was never in doubt since it has many useful applications, even in law enforcement and popular as a tactical sniping round.

Once you get it to full auto though, with the heavier recoil it starts to get dicey in terms of accuracy especially for the longer range engagements and multi-target suppression. It is also more taxing on the soldier who has to battle the additional fatigue from handling/lugging around the weapon and the ammunition.

It is ok for professional or special forces but for an army that is composed mainly of conscripts, it takes much more training and effort to master sufficient accuracy unless one is doing fighting in enclosed or built up areas where accuracy may be slightly compromised.

Of course undeniably, having better penetration through cover (walls) is still sometimes preferred in a military scenario where its different from a police action and when collateral damage is unavoidable.

Unlike an MG which is good for suppression or area denial, most of such assault weapons in this caliber can realistically carry only up to 20 to 25 rounds per mag which means more reloading. "Changing mags" isn't a popular term in the midst of a battlefield and so is indenting ammunition when a country is under seige.

 

[Debonerman]

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I've killed many a terrorchees with my 6.5 inches Chink meat round. But it's geting old and worn........

 

[glockman]

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you can train your whole family on 0.45?? In johor?
you have pistol licence in johor?

I piss on 9mm, i hate it, i much prefer 0.45 using 1911, better stopping power. I take 1911 any day than the glock.

Glock yucks. plastic shit. I hate the feel, i hate the looks.

Ouch! But glocks are reliable and practical. And so many 9mm rounds in the clip! I like the 1911 too, its a legend. But just not enough rounds in a standard single stack .45ACP clip. The below video is great to watch.

[video=youtube;XkVfQQeX5c8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkVfQQeX5c8[/video]

 

[steffychun]

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Ouch! But glocks are reliable and practical. And so many 9mm rounds in the clip! I like the 1911 too, its a legend. But just not enough rounds in a standard single stack .45ACP clip. The below video is great to watch.

[video=youtube;XkVfQQeX5c8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkVfQQeX5c8[/video]

I prefer Sig Sauer

 

[Gunslinger]

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I prefer Sig Sauer

what are you doing for a living?

 

[Himawari]

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knn you know how heavy or not...

 

[wuqi256]

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you can train your whole family on 0.45?? In johor?
you have pistol licence in johor?

I piss on 9mm, i hate it, i much prefer 0.45 using 1911, better stopping power. I take 1911 any day than the glock.

Glock yucks. plastic shit. I hate the feel, i hate the looks.

Lets just say we have been to a few places. The 1911 takes a while to get use to, first time my wife and sisters shot it, they almost hit themselves on
the forehead. My dad was not used to the slide and almost cut the edge of his right thumb while firing.

Most 1911 have very soft trigger squeeze as soon as the slide is racked back and the first shot will always
tend to surprise, especially the unintiated.

I always preferred single action side arms over double action ones though.

 

[wuqi256]

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[Conqueror]

Love The Tank

I prefer Sig Sauer

[video=youtube;4dhSYDZy2Yc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dhSYDZy2Yc[/video]


I like this.

 

[wuqi256]

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[wuqi256]

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More pictures

 

[wuqi256]

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Hi Glockman,

Get the Kriss then, when one stack of 6-8 rounds (plus one in the chamber) just wouldn't do. View attachment 9719

 

[sleaguepunter]

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76mm can consider tank destroyer? wahahaha...

this then can call a tank.

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[wuqi256]

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sleaguepunter, my fav tank from that era even after they started to upgun it in '44 and one funny tale of how the tank crew must have been sleeping..

The following is a war time account of the effectiveness of the T-34's armour and relative impunity when faced with available German anti-tank guns of the time:

Remarkably enough, one determined 37 mm gun crew reported firing 23 times against a single T-34 tank, only managing to jam the tank’s turret ring”.[65]
Although the German anti-tank gun crew managed to score 23 hits, the T-34 referred to did not manage to hit the AT gun once.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34

 

[wuqi256]

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A tank that takes care of its crew, the Chariot 3 hehe (yes i know Merkava):

 

[wuqi256]

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Glockman, when a semi auto glock just wouldn't do

[video=youtube;tmrggqzwhFc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmrggqzwhFc[/video]

Glock 19 with the KPOS G2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_XB16vwzfI

Enjoy.

 

[Conqueror]

Good Enough

76mm can consider tank destroyer? wahahaha...

this then can call a tank.

Why not ? The panther had a 75mm gun. If you ever hear what that stupid Gen Mc Arthur did, you will appreciate this tank as the saviour in the western front. Yes, it may not have a 88mm gun like what the Tiger 2 had, but it is still effective in the war - to win the war.

Mc Arthur was a total idiot. :*:

My fav of all time is this chio tank destroyer.

 

[wuqi256]

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I prefer Sig Sauer

Have a look at the Sig Sauer ACP
http://youtu.be/f9IZ_6qm56o

 

[glockman]

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Glockman, when a semi auto glock just wouldn't do
Enjoy.

Wow, thats full auto glock gone bersek, nice! Those days, already a 30 round clip was considered insane, now a 100 round drum/clip. Those glocks are so reliable people are using them as a platform to build their add-ons.

I didn't know the KRISS company and products existed until now, thanks. They just focus on .45ACP and boy what a bad ass line up!