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Chinese (Asian) used to have most creativity and inventions in the world... BUT NOW?!

sleaguepunter

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Someone mentioned that Gen McArthur was a lousy general. He did not do a good job in The Philippines and lost the whole stretch of islands to the bloody Japs. The general who fought the Japs in the south of China with his famed Flying Tigers lost the honour of liberating China officially. I think McArthur had the honour of receiving the Japs' surrender instead, poor Chennault !

The Communist Chinese Army attacked McArthur's tank units when in he and the UN forces were in hot pursuit for the fleeing N Korean troops right into the Chinese border. Same tactic used against KMT troops lay. 300,000 against a smaller UN force ? 人海战争 again.

chennault was a reserve Lt-Colonel in 1939 while MacArthur already a retired full general. By the term of senority, MacArthur shd be the one to receive jap surrender.

When Chinese Volunteer forces pour across the yalu river, they achieve strategic and tactcial surprise at the beginning as they forced the US army on it longest retreat in history but peng dehuai loss all intiative when he use human wave against US fire power in entrenched position. After a million men lives lost, peng have nothing to show for and was purged in 1955.
 

sleaguepunter

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MacArthur would have contained the CCP and might have given more needed support to the KMT troops. However, as Marshall was the one in charge, hence the KMT got its funds and support cut from the US and told "You are on your own now."

there was no money, public sentiments were against chiang due to bad publicity to chiang and it not an angmo conflict. what happened in 1947 happen again in 1972 when US abandoned the south vietnam govt.

btw, the North Korea attacked the south in 1950 as due to non commitment by the US govt toward the south and refused to provide heavy weapons to the south and restrict the numbers of troops the south can recruit.

moral of the story, better dont count on US support as their record in asia really cannot made it.
 

moolightaffairs

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Re: 人海战争

Someone mentioned that Gen McArthur was a lousy general. He did not do a good job in The Philippines and lost the whole stretch of islands to the bloody Japs. The general who fought the Japs in the south of China with his famed Flying Tigers lost the honour of liberating China officially. I think McArthur had the honour of receiving the Japs' surrender instead, poor Chennault !

The Communist Chinese Army attacked McArthur's tank units when in he and the UN forces were in hot pursuit for the fleeing N Korean troops right into the Chinese border. Same tactic used against KMT troops lay. 300,000 against a smaller UN force ? 人海战争 again.

bro, u mean 人海战术?
 

roadrunner

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Re: Chinese (Asian) used to have most creativity and inventions in the world... BUT N

..Unfortunately, this included the period of rapid scientific development and discovery in the western lands and China excluded herself from these.

One of these is the art of glass making & specifically glass beakers & test tubes where scientific experiments were carried out & from these, the West advanced in it's knowledge. China was apparently too preoccupied with keeping their secrets of porcelain making in Jingdezhen a secret & they ran a "closed door" policy when it came to it's manufacture. But the secrets of Chinese porcelain eventually got out to the West but by then, the West had moved on.
 

Sideswipe

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chennault was a reserve Lt-Colonel in 1939 while MacArthur already a retired full general. By the term of senority, MacArthur shd be the one to receive jap surrender.


Chairman Chiang Kai Shek wanted General Wedemeyer to be the Chinese representative to receive the Japanese surrender. Wedemeyer believed that it was not appropriate for a foreigner to represent China in this historic occasion. Wedemeyer suggested that either Chief of Staff He Yingqin or General Chen Cheng should do it instead...
 

akunei

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As the saying goes, in a blind man's world, a one eyed man is king. The dumb Chinese have only succeeded in dominating in SEA because the native population of brown skinned simpletons are even dumber.

Put a Chinaman in an Ang Moh country and all they can do is run takeaways or start triads that peddle meth. A few have made it big but these are the bananas who have learned to think and behave like Ang Mohs.

china is currently no. 2 in world ranking and here u are, shooting down china again.
i woner if china climb to the top some time later, will u still be saying the same thing?
 

Liquigas

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Chinese (Asian) used to have most creativity and inventions in the world... BUT N

The Chinese are well known for their intelligence and willing to work hard. What is lacking is that the Chinese people are not creative and innovative enough. As a result China is not on the cutting edge of trends or developments that are changing the world whereas America is.

In footballing terms, there are alot of hard working intelligent players like Steve Gerrard in China but there is no Messi with his magic...
 

Television

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Chinese people are very business minded people, Very smart at earning money the generic way. That is all about it. Creativity or anything else is subjective to individuals.

The American's creativity steams from their educational system & environment.
 

Leongsam

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Re: Chinese (Asian) used to have most creativity and inventions in the world... BUT N

Chinese people are very business minded people, Very smart at earning money the generic way.

If the Chinese are inherently business minded, Mao would never have come to power with his left wing agenda.

Ask yourself why any "business minded people" would subscribe to Mao's philosophy. Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotations_from_Chairman_Mao#Content_and_format

Would you embrace this crap if you were "business minded"? I certainly wouldn't.

The fact that Mao had such widespread support from the masses proves beyond reasonable doubt that the majority of Chinese are nothing more than simpletons and ignorant peasants. :rolleyes:
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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If the Chinese are inherently business minded, Mao would never have come to power with his left wing agenda.

Ask yourself why any "business minded people" would subscribe to Mao's philosophy. Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotations_from_Chairman_Mao#Content_and_format

Would you embrace this crap if you were "business minded"? I certainly wouldn't.

The fact that Mao had such widespread support from the masses proves beyond reasonable doubt that the majority of Chinese are nothing more than simpletons and ignorant peasants. :rolleyes:



Oh yes equating some quotes that you would not accept from a chinese leader = not business minded. :rolleyes: Yes as if the chinese peasants had any means to actually reject them without being killed or jailed.


Sure there are ignorant and simpletons amongst the chinese but here's the thing. Many of these ppl arrived in south east asia and made big names for themselves. Same occurance in the US and europe and africa now. Not bad for a bunch of peasants.
 

Leongsam

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Re: Chinese (Asian) used to have most creativity and inventions in the world... BUT N

Sure there are ignorant and simpletons amongst the chinese but here's the thing. Many of these ppl arrived in south east asia and made big names for themselves. Same occurance in the US and europe and africa now. Not bad for a bunch of peasants.

Most of the chinks started businesses when they arrived in the West simply because no sane white man wanted to employ those obnoxious characters.

They ended up starting launderettes and takeaways in order to eke out a living. If that's the definition of being "business minded", then it brings new meaning to the term.

A few made it big but so have migrants from other ethnic groups. In fact, the overseas Indians in the West have proven themselves to be far more successful.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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Re: Chinese (Asian) used to have most creativity and inventions in the world... BUT N

The Chinese are well known for their intelligence and willing to work hard. What is lacking is that the Chinese people are not creative and innovative enough. As a result China is not on the cutting edge of trends or developments that are changing the world whereas America is.

In footballing terms, there are alot of hard working intelligent players like Steve Gerrard in China but there is no Messi with his magic...

That might be true but then again the majority of the population is like that. Take whites as a general group if you want to take them as an individual group like french, italian etc the percentage of them being inventors and etc drop much lower so let's just take all whites as a group. Even among whites as a whole only a small percentage of them are inventors and innovators.

Anyway the chinese as a whole aren't doing too badly. Certainly much better than malays, indians, arabs and so on. The only comparable group would be like the japanese or whites.

The worst thing is that non japs and whites would suddenly act like whites to put down the chinese. I am sure you have heard of this before. Some indian fella would say hey but china is poorer than the USA. Oh yeah but are you american? Are you white? Nope so why is he acting and speaking like he's a white or american?


It's like some average or poor man telling off a multi-millionaire that has 100 million in the bank. Oh yeah you're nothing. Warren buffet or bill gates has much more than you ignoring the fact that he isn't those 2 individuals and is just a poor bloke telling off the multi millionaire. In short wearing the butt skin of warren buffet on his face to talk down to the multi millionaire. That's what happens when some m&ds or kelings do when they want to put down china. Also china isn't like a mult-millionaire while the US is a billionaire. China is like a billionaire next to the US if you want to make that kind of comparison.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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Re: Chinese (Asian) used to have most creativity and inventions in the world... BUT N

Most of the chinks started businesses when they arrived in the West simply because no sane white man wanted to employ those obnoxious characters.

They ended up starting launderettes and takeaways in order to eke out a living. If that's the definition of being "business minded", then it brings new meaning to the term.

A few made it big but so have migrants from other ethnic groups. In fact, the overseas Indians in the West have proven themselves to be far more successful.



Oh you sure? Or they would rather own their own businesses? Better to be your own boss than become a slave of some white man.

Pray tell in what ways have the overseas indians proven to be far more successful?

Also what is wrong with starting a takeaway or a laundry shop? Those are businesses aren't they? The majority of indians are either convience store owners or taxi drivers and that is more business minded? :rolleyes:
 
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