WP's Managing Agent's issue

[Seee3]

Wouldn't any upgrading/repair work is an expense for the MA and not income? Not unless, you are saying that the MA is also the contractor doing the upgrading/repair work and thus the MA will be paid for the work done.

Is this upgrading or major repair works that you referred to for the same TC that the MA is managing? If it is, does it makes sense for the MA to put out upgrading/repair work and then to do that upgrading/repair work himself?

Not an expense under sc cc but maybe under sinking fund or other sources. So it is not accurate to say that it is an expense of the MA but rather should be the expense of tc or some other bodies. MA has the right to charge contract management fee if they are assigned the work. I think the right to manage such works at a fee should be in the original contract.

 

[WongMengMeng]

Well said. Much much more weight than phantom lawyers and anonymous internet monikers.

By that logic, we should all believe that it takes 50 man years to do the books for some sovereign fund of a Little Red Dot just 'cos some Old Fart who also needs to be elected once every 5 years said so, altho' there is usually a walkover in his constituency. And just 'cos it takes 50 man years to do something does not mean it should not be done especially when you're talking about assets managed in a fiduciary capacity - ie. on behalf of others. Now we all know what happens if you don't kick the tires.

Am I the only one to suspect that an orchestrated CONversation has been carried on between yellowarse and meimei?

 

[yellowarse]

By that logic, we should all believe that it takes 50 man years to do the books for some sovereign fund of a Little Red Dot just 'cos some Old Fart who also needs to be elected once every 5 years said so, altho' there is usually a walkover in his constituency.

Old fart is an outright pathological liar and a psychopathic tyrant. GMS, for all his egotism and brashness, is a lot more truthful than old fart.

But believe what you will. It is free forum.

 

[WongMengMeng]

Old fart is an outright pathological liar and a psychopathic tyrant. GMS, for all his egotism and brashness, is a lot more truthful than old fart.

But believe what you will. It is free forum.

Please read #307 and #312 carefully. You can bring a horse to the water but you can't force it to drink.

Just 'cos someone told you the truth on several occasions before doesn't mean that you can take everything that he says subsequently to be true without verifying. A con-man first needs to gain your confidence, before he can do his trick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

I'm just making general statements here and not casting aspersions on any person.

 

[SgParent]

Goh Meng Seng is not just a real person but a public figure. As a public person and one possibly seeking election in the future, he has to be careful on what he say here. For that, his words carried some weight and his views are respected, whether good or bad.

Judge the person on his words and deeds, not who he is.

 

[mei mei]

Judge the person on his words and deeds, not who he is.

Nah, this should still stand:

Goh Meng Seng is not just a real person but a public figure. As a public person and one possibly seeking election in the future, he has to be careful on what he say here. For that, his words carried some weight and his views are respected, whether good or bad.

At the very least, if Goh Meng Seng fouls up, Singaporeans know they can call on Goh Meng Seng to hold him for accountability.

 

[SgParent]

At the very least, if Goh Meng Seng fouls up, Singaporeans know they can call on Goh Meng Seng to hold him for accountability.

Disagree.

His refusal to answer my simple questions in post.223 to backup his earlier smear, proved your optimism is unfounded.

 

[mei mei]

Disagree.

His refusal to answer my simple questions in post.223 to backup his earlier smear, proved your optimism is unfounded.

Goh Meng Seng has no obligation to answer to some anonymous internet moniker. See him in person and demand an answer from him. If he is in the wrong and refuses to take responsibility, then his political future and reputation is doomed.

 

[mei mei]

It is a lame argument as I have already pointed out.

Am I the only 1 that think you are just regurgitating what the White Scums have been crapping? Are you not happy just because of this "shell company" backup by $500k? Or is there an illegal, unethical wrongdoing?

Goh Meng Seng is not just a real person but a public figure. As a public person and one possibly seeking election in the future, he has to be careful on what he say here. For that, his words carried some weight and his views are respected, whether good or bad.

Disagree.
His refusal to answer my simple questions in post.223 to backup his earlier smear, proved your optimism is unfounded.

Goh Meng Seng is having a field day, he is scoring points at the expense of both PAP and WP. Of course, if he wants to protect his reputation, he should perhaps substantiate his allegations and not let any doubts linger. This simply does not mean Goh Meng Seng is right or wrong, he can make all kinds of allegations he wants here now, come election time, he will be held accountable for what he said. It will be blow back for him if he accuse WP or PAP wrongly now. But given that Goh Meng Seng is using his real name, his words carries more weight than some anonymous internet moniker.

 

[SgParent]

Goh Meng Seng has no obligation to answer to some anonymous internet moniker. See him in person and demand an answer from him. If he is in the wrong and refuses to take responsibility, then his political future and reputation is doomed.

I dun expect Rabid GohMS to answer every question. But the more he evades and refuses to backup his opinion/claim, the lesser is his credibility. No?

 

[SgParent]

Goh Meng Seng is having a field day, he is scoring points at the expense of both PAP and WP. .

Sorry. I should be specific. I was referring to my unanswered questions in post.144, reproduced here:-

A few questions on FMSS-gate for Rabid GohMS aka Mr I'm-always-right aka Mr I-always-have-the-last-word:-

a) Has anyone deliberately hide any facts like in AIM-gate where the directors are some White Scums and when the fire started to spread $8 Malaysian Cow belatedly admitted AIM is White Scum, White Scum is AIM?

b) Is anyone, other potential bidder to the TC tender, residents, etc, etc, deliberately disadvantaged like in AIM-gate where the bidder for some strange reasons must have directors with TC experience?

c) Is there any law, real or imaginary, that forbids associates of WP to bid for the TC tender?

My questions were directed at his many unsubstantiated comments, which are very similar to those made by the White Scums and their lackeys.

Of course, if he wants to protect his reputation, he should perhaps substantiate his allegations and not let any doubts linger. This simply does not mean Goh Meng Seng is right or wrong, he can make all kinds of allegations he wants here now, come election time, he will be held accountable for what he said. It will be blow back for him if he accuse WP or PAP wrongly now. But given that Goh Meng Seng is using his real name, his words carries more weight than some anonymous internet moniker.

Comparatively you are correct but that does not mean he is credible at all.

So I still disagree with your stand in your post.318 and insist with my post.325

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

You must always remember WP is the choice you want to choose to replace PAP one day. Rotting started from small proportions.

Goh Meng Seng

GMS

No one has said WP must be the choice to replace PAP in government. You are jumping a decade and a half or more ahead. Even if WP is eventually the party to take over govt, the much bigger rot now is with PAP.

You say small rot can turn into big rot, but I say big rot can turn into even bigger rot if people take the same attitude as you and focus on the WP molehill whilst ignoring the PAP mountain.

Even your so called small rot of WP is based on incomplete data just like the PAP will never give you the complete data on all their TCs. As I have said, no sense of proportion.

 

[Asterix]

小妹妹, 请冷静一点， 别那么狼狈。 你这样很容易被人误会是吴先生的粉斯甚至是某个堂的有薪网民。 The desperation shows and is not helpful to your cause, whatever it is.

用真名或代名跟有或无说服力是两码事。这小孩子都懂啦！ The strength of any argument has nothing to do with whether it is made by a person using his real name or an anonymous internet nick.

... given that Goh Meng Seng is using his real name, his words carries more weight than some anonymous internet moniker.

 

[zhihau]

小妹妹.

bro,
why is it 妹妹？ why not 美美？

 

[Asterix]

bro,
why is it 妹妹？ why not 美美？

我没见过她，无法确认美不美， 有或无魅力啊！

妹， 美， 魅 all are "mei" under the Hanyu Pinyin system.

 

[mei mei]

A few questions on FMSS-gate for Rabid GohMS aka Mr I'm-always-right aka Mr I-always-have-the-last-word:-

a) Has anyone deliberately hide any facts like in AIM-gate where the directors are some White Scums and when the fire started to spread $8 Malaysian Cow belatedly admitted AIM is White Scum, White Scum is AIM?

b) Is anyone, other potential bidder to the TC tender, residents, etc, etc, deliberately disadvantaged like in AIM-gate where the bidder for some strange reasons must have directors with TC experience?

c) Is there any law, real or imaginary, that forbids associates of WP to bid for the TC tender?

My questions were directed at his many unsubstantiated comments, which are very similar to those made by the White Scums and their lackeys.

@Goh Meng Seng, Mr Goh, it would be beneficial for you to come out and explain yourself. One should never let doubts linger. Assuming that you do plan to run for elections in 2016, this will do good to yourself and party.

 

[I_Hate_Pappies]

Because you can be populist, run the reserves to the ground (or not accumulate any reserves) and leave the shit for your successors to solve.

How much did they lost in those bad investments?

 

[streetcry]

How much did they lost in those bad investments?

Temasek Holdings & Bank Of America - One of the worst investments in this period

Published on Mar 15, 2012

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[kingrant]

Every little perceived stumble by WP, and GMS will be like a bitch on heat. We never see him unleash such attacks with such relentlessness and persistence on the ruling party.

GMS

Even your so called small rot of WP is based on incomplete data just like the PAP will never give you the complete data on all their TCs. As I have said, no sense of proportion.

 

[I_Hate_Pappies]

Did GMS comment anything with regards to AIM before FMSS was brought up? No?