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Chitchat WP Secretary Generals

ckmpd

Alfrescian
Loyal
Worker's Party is the same as PAP. A total waste of taxpayer's money. The worker's party put up an act to con the people into believing that oppo is useless and unreliable in the govt. Worker party goes in line with the narrative of the PAP and occasionally, screwed up to show opp are unreliable. They really work hard to try to convince the public that opp is useless.
We need Alternative Party like PSP or SDP
 

tobelightlight

Alfrescian
Loyal
Agree. We need an Opposition who dares confront the PAP like PSP
Not just PSP, any people who can confront the PAP narrative deserve to be in the govt. Look at WP, a waste of taxpayers' money just like their PAP master. We do not need such people to be in the govt. They will all be removed sooner or later.
 

ckmpd

Alfrescian
Loyal
Worker's Party is the same as PAP. A total waste of taxpayer's money. The worker's party put up an act to con the people into believing that oppo is useless and unreliable in the govt. Worker party goes in line with the narrative of the PAP and occasionally, screwed up to show opp are unreliable. They really work hard to try to convince the public that opp is useless.
The present WP will not be a threat to the PAP. What Singapore needs is a party hungry enough to want to displace PAP and work for a better Singapore
 

tobelightlight

Alfrescian
Loyal
The present WP will not be a threat to the PAP. What Singapore needs is a party hungry enough to want to displace PAP and work for a better Singapore
in the near future, there will not be a govt anymore. People will vote based on policies, and not people. I believe Singapore is the same. Under a system called the quantum computer system. It may sound far-fetched to you but this is how the world is going in this direction. You cannot rely on govt to represent policies to run the country, they are corrupted. The current govt system is outdated and prone to abuse.
 

ckmpd

Alfrescian
Loyal
Singh cannot make it lah. LTK to return as WP leader.
Pritam may be a good man but we need someone who can be an Alternative to PAP. Now pap is in a dilemma as it has no leader. LHL is just bidding his time and waiting ernestly to hand over the premiership. But no one else wants the job
 

Sideswipe

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Pritam may be a good man but we need someone who can be an Alternative to PAP. Now pap is in a dilemma as it has no leader. LHL is just bidding his time and waiting ernestly to hand over the premiership. But no one else wants the job

why not ? PAP PM has guaranteed elections victory and can lead SG for as long as desired. unless things change dramatically, WP is the only alternative to PAP. they can win parliament seats. sad to say the rest of the opposition can't win seats and enter parliament.
 

rusty

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
It doesn't matter who the SG is. As long as WP is there I'll vote for it.
In Singapore's context you don't vote for a candidate you vote for a party. How many candidates are there in a GRC?
We have been led by the nose for far too long.
If you want the best vote for PAP ... period
 

ckmpd

Alfrescian
Loyal
why not ? PAP PM has guaranteed elections victory and can lead SG for as long as desired. unless things change dramatically, WP is the only alternative to PAP. they can win parliament seats. sad to say the rest of the opposition can't win seats and enter parliament.

It doesn't matter who the SG is. As long as WP is there I'll vote for it.
In Singapore's context you don't vote for a candidate you vote for a party. How many candidates are there in a GRC?
We have been led by the nose for far too long.
If you want the best vote for PAP ... period
I want the best for our future. That is why i dont vote for the pap
 

tobelightlight

Alfrescian
Loyal
This is Dr Chee's piece on Lawrence Wong. This is what I called real opposition.

With all the attention drawn to the Committee of Privileges these past several days, something important has gone under the radar.

It has to do with Minister Lawrence Wong who wrote a marvel. Not for its literary depth or intellect rigour, but rather for its brazenness in continuing the PAP’s justification in its undemocratic rule.

Titled “Managing the tensions of tribal politics” (ST, 23 Nov 2021), the piece was actually the full text of his speech he gave at the Institute of Policy Studies.

Now, if you’ve been around politics in this country long enough, you’ll know that coming from a PAP man using words like “race”, “harmony”, “community”, “democracy”, “conflict”, the thesis can only go in one direction – the warning against the ills of democracy and the continued employment of censorship and detention without trial to keep the peace.

See what I mean: “Our founding leaders…took tough but necessary action,” Mr Wong predictably extolled. “They invoked the Internal Security Act [ISA] against chauvinists of all ilk.”

Apparently so. And against their elected parliamentary colleagues on the other side of the House no less. Mr Wong’s predecessors incarcerated scores of opposition politicians and activists in the 1960s and 70s. One MP was locked away for more than three decades with nary a legal charge – and all because he refused to confess that he was a communist his captors accused him of being.

Years later, the ISA was used against chauvinists of another ilk – social activists fighting for the poor. Now, they were accused of being Marxists. Slapped, kicked and psychologically brutalised, they were forced to confess. For good measure, the government put them on TV to make the “confession” public.

With the opposition emasculated, cvil society brow-beaten, the media crushed into a “nation-building” microphone, we have now, according to Mr Wong, become a “Singaporean Singapore”.

Of course, such harmony must be tended to. Hence, Mr Wong's pronouncement that the “harmonious state of affairs will always be on a knife-edge; so it needs constant attention and careful management.”

And so, the Singaporean society trundles along, constantly reminded that the without the PAP’s undemocratic rule, society will just fall apart.

This is why laws are introduced and rules are changed to enable the ruling clique to maintain its grip. It was the GRC system first that put gerrymandering on steroids, followed by the introduction of the Public Order Act that outlawed protests even by one single body, then the change of the constitution that further narrowed persons “qualified” to be president, then the enactment of POFMA that restricted online debate and, most recently, the passing of FICA that gives the government unprecedented power to further accuse anyone of being aided and abetted by foreigners.

I've spoken repeatedly about this gradual political suffocation of our society. At a time when opening up the political system is critical given the changing needs of the country, the continued approach of maintaining fear and control will do this country irreparable harm.

Many have asked why I continue the political struggle after so many years. It is such utterances by this young Minister and his group – unable to imagine a new and enlightened form of governance that this nation so desperately needs – that keeps me going.

Resisting them and bringing about a hopeful future for ourselves and our children is the only thing to do.
 

ckmpd

Alfrescian
Loyal
This is Dr Chee's piece on Lawrence Wong. This is what I called real opposition.

With all the attention drawn to the Committee of Privileges these past several days, something important has gone under the radar.

It has to do with Minister Lawrence Wong who wrote a marvel. Not for its literary depth or intellect rigour, but rather for its brazenness in continuing the PAP’s justification in its undemocratic rule.

Titled “Managing the tensions of tribal politics” (ST, 23 Nov 2021), the piece was actually the full text of his speech he gave at the Institute of Policy Studies.

Now, if you’ve been around politics in this country long enough, you’ll know that coming from a PAP man using words like “race”, “harmony”, “community”, “democracy”, “conflict”, the thesis can only go in one direction – the warning against the ills of democracy and the continued employment of censorship and detention without trial to keep the peace.

See what I mean: “Our founding leaders…took tough but necessary action,” Mr Wong predictably extolled. “They invoked the Internal Security Act [ISA] against chauvinists of all ilk.”

Apparently so. And against their elected parliamentary colleagues on the other side of the House no less. Mr Wong’s predecessors incarcerated scores of opposition politicians and activists in the 1960s and 70s. One MP was locked away for more than three decades with nary a legal charge – and all because he refused to confess that he was a communist his captors accused him of being.

Years later, the ISA was used against chauvinists of another ilk – social activists fighting for the poor. Now, they were accused of being Marxists. Slapped, kicked and psychologically brutalised, they were forced to confess. For good measure, the government put them on TV to make the “confession” public.

With the opposition emasculated, cvil society brow-beaten, the media crushed into a “nation-building” microphone, we have now, according to Mr Wong, become a “Singaporean Singapore”.

Of course, such harmony must be tended to. Hence, Mr Wong's pronouncement that the “harmonious state of affairs will always be on a knife-edge; so it needs constant attention and careful management.”

And so, the Singaporean society trundles along, constantly reminded that the without the PAP’s undemocratic rule, society will just fall apart.

This is why laws are introduced and rules are changed to enable the ruling clique to maintain its grip. It was the GRC system first that put gerrymandering on steroids, followed by the introduction of the Public Order Act that outlawed protests even by one single body, then the change of the constitution that further narrowed persons “qualified” to be president, then the enactment of POFMA that restricted online debate and, most recently, the passing of FICA that gives the government unprecedented power to further accuse anyone of being aided and abetted by foreigners.

I've spoken repeatedly about this gradual political suffocation of our society. At a time when opening up the political system is critical given the changing needs of the country, the continued approach of maintaining fear and control will do this country irreparable harm.

Many have asked why I continue the political struggle after so many years. It is such utterances by this young Minister and his group – unable to imagine a new and enlightened form of governance that this nation so desperately needs – that keeps me going.

Resisting them and bringing about a hopeful future for ourselves and our children is the only thing to do.
Singapore needs PSP and SDP. PAP is not afraind of WP but is afraid of PSP and SDP in Parliament
 

JohnTan

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
We need Alternative Party like PSP or SDP

SDP is too discredited due to Chee's past political problems. The SDP also doesn't have any notable political figures besides the usual Thambi and Chee. Thambi has also been keeping a low profile, preferring to spend more of his time on his medical career than getting too involved in politics.

PSP has fizzled out. Many of their core leaders from GE2020 has left quietly. Some left on very bad terms. Most of PSP members are there for former PAP candidate Bock. There isn't any oppie figure who can marshal so many supporters to come out into the open to give him or her support.

Oppies best hope is still the wankers. They're the only credible opposition that can mount a challenge to the PAP in the eastern districts.
 

mojito

Alfrescian
Loyal
SDP is too discredited due to Chee's past political problems. The SDP also doesn't have any notable political figures besides the usual Thambi and Chee. Thambi has also been keeping a low profile, preferring to spend more of his time on his medical career than getting too involved in politics.

PSP has fizzled out. Many of their core leaders from GE2020 has left quietly. Some left on very bad terms. Most of PSP members are there for former PAP candidate Bock. There isn't any oppie figure who can marshal so many supporters to come out into the open to give him or her support.

Oppies best hope is still the wankers. They're the only credible opposition that can mount a challenge to the PAP in the eastern districts.
Oppie best hope is pappie. They may abuse you but they will not betray you like oppies do.

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you :whistling:
 
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