Winter olympic 2010 Vancouver

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canadian kill figure skating then complain about it from another canadian

sorry this is a repeat news, but just to let people know or remember, the one who kill figure skating, are the 2002 olympic pairs, when the canadian figure skating federation complain about the result and ISU, gave ridiculous 2 gold medals, what ? 2 gold, what is this? Is this a town children game?
after that, they (ISU) went into mountain cave for months and come out with the present system, which take the risk out,and give peanuts to those who risk it all.
in the past they compare the skating in that particular day,now it is an absolute system, no comparsion. Just mark each element.
That is what kill skating, it is the canadian.



The night they killed figure skating
Elvis Stojko

VANCOUVER, British Columbia – Sorry, Evan Lysacek.

You’re a great skater and all.

But that wasn’t Olympic champion material.

How can you be Olympic champion when you don’t even try the quad? If you’re going to take the quad out, why not take out another triple axel and just have more of the other stuff so the International Skating Union can make it more into an “art” recital.

Plushenko had a great performance. His footwork was great and maybe his spins weren’t quite as good as Lysacek’s, but it wasn’t that big of a difference. He also had a quad toe triple toe that wasn’t even attempted by anyone else. He did both triple axels, so all the jumps were there.

But the judges’ scoring was ridiculous.

Because of it, the sport took a step backward. Brian Boitano did the same thing, technically, in 1988. There are junior skaters who can skate that same program.

And the judges’ scoring probably killed figure skating because kids now are going to see this and say, “Oh, I don’t need a quad. I can just do great footwork for presentation marks and do a couple of nice spins and make it to Olympic champion.” With that type of scoring, you don’t have to risk it. You can play it safe and win gold.

In what other sports do you have to hold back in order to win?

The International Skating Union has taken the risk out of figure skating and it makes me sick.

If Plushenko had made some mistakes, then sure, maybe Lysacek deserves gold. But when you take the risk out of skaters’ programs, it doesn’t compute to me.

And it’s not a personal thing. I like Evan. But when you compare performances and have an outcome like this, the sport is going backward. And it hurts me to say it because I love this sport. But the judges made a mockery of it by giving Lysacek the gold.

I don’t want to rain on anybody’s parade because it’s not the skaters’ fault. It’s the system. And the figure skating community wants to control who wins and who loses. And what it does is it makes the component score more valid than the jumps so it can control whatever it wants. And that’s exactly what happened Thursday night at Pacific Coliseum.

How can the sport be put back on the right path? I have no idea. I haven’t even thought about it. It’s not up to me. Because people at the ISU obviously seem to know what they’re doing. Well, they think they know what they’re doing.

For me, the outcome on Thursday night was disappointing.

A few more thoughts on the men’s free skate:

• I thought Daisuke Takahashi was awesome. He tried the quad and he had the guts to go for it, and he should’ve been ahead of Lysacek in that aspect.

• Johnny Weir was great. He should’ve been higher than sixth – above Patrick Chan, who was fifth. Weir outskated Chan. He might’ve skated a little bit slow but he went out there and did his stuff. I feel bad for him.

• People say I’m hammering certain skaters. I’m not. It’s the system I don’t like and if you say I am biased … I already said I am not a fan of Weir’s skating, but he skated well tonight and deserved to be ahead of Chan.

In addition, Takahiko Kozuka – my favorite skater – did not get the points he deserved. He skated great, had awesome spins, the best edges in the competition, was very close with the quad and did a ton of triples.

Figure skating gets no respect because of outcomes like this. More feathers, head-flinging and so-called step sequences done at walking speed – that’s what the system wants.

I am going to watch hockey, where athletes are allowed to push the envelope. A real sport.


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Oh curling is not a sport, and 2 man luge is an gay sport.

 

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HEADED FOR GOLD: The U.S.-1 team piloted by Steven Holcomb makes a turn during a four-man bobsled heat. The team, which also includes Steve Mesler, Curtis Tomasevicz and Justin Olsen, went on to win the gold medal.
(Wally Skalij/Los Angeles Times)

The United States' USA-1, with Steven Holcomb, front, Justin Olsen, Steve Mesler, and Curtis Tomasevicz, celebrate their gold medal finish during the men's four-man bobsled final competition at the Vancouver 2010 Olympics in Whistler, British Columbia, Saturday, Feb. 27, 2010.​

GIANT SLEIGHERS: USA-1 team members (from left) Steve Holcomb, Justin Olsen, Steve Mesler and Curtis Tomasevicz celebrate after clinching the
gold medal in four-man bobsled on Saturday at the Whistler Sliding Center.
(Wally Skalij/Los Angeles Times)

 

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USA's `Night Train' Drives Into Bobsled History
Holcomb boards the `Night Train,' drives to America's 1st bobsled gold since 1948
WHISTLER, British Columbia February 28, 2010 (AP)
By TIM REYNOLDS AP Sports Writer

They were bitter rivals, at least until the race was over.
Steve Holcomb has spent the better part of a decade chasing Andre Lange, trying to knock the German legend off his perch as bobsledding's best pilot.

Germany's Andre Lange, left, celebrates with Steven Holcomb of the United States during the medal ceremony for the men's four-man bobsled during the medal ceremony of the Vancouver 2010 Olympics in Whistler, British Columbia, Saturday, Feb. 27, 2010. The team of the United States took the gold medal, Germany silver and Canda bronze.


Saturday was Holcomb's last chance.

Done deal. Bobsledding's torch was passed. And when it was over, minutes before Holcomb got his first Olympic medal and Lange got his last, they sat together and shared a beer, sliding's past and sliding's future toasting one another.
"Overwhelming," Holcomb said.
Holcomb drove USA-1 to the gold medal in four-man bobsledding Saturday, the first American pilot to do so since Francis Tyler at St. Moritz in 1948. By winning, he cemented the status of his famed "Night Train" sled and push team of Justin Olsen, Steve Mesler and Curt Tomasevicz as sliding's best.
"This will take a while for it to sink in," Holcomb said. "You work so hard and when you finally get there it's like, `Well, now what? I don't know what to do.' We've worked so hard and gone through so much in the last four years. To end on a high note like this is huge."
The high note came four hours later.
They jumped atop the medal podium together, each arm raised skyward, before each man bowed to have Olympic gold placed around their necks, none of them able to stop smiling. Then they put their right hands over the hearts, and as the national anthem blared and the U.S. flag was raised, Holcomb seemed to hold back tears.
And for the photo that followed, Holcomb knelt next to Lange, then shared one last hug with the man he needed to beat.
"This will change their life," USA-3 driver Mike Kohn said.
World champions, 2009. Olympic champions, 2010.
"You can't do any better," said U.S. coach Brian Shimer, a bronze medalist in 2002, the year the Americans also got a silver in four-man with Todd Hays joining Shimer on that podium.
With that, Shimer started to cry, unable to hold back any longer.

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2.

1. A German fan watches during the men's four-man bobsled final competition at the Vancouver 2010 Olympics in Whistler, British Columbia, Saturday, Feb. 27, 2010
2.Germany's GER-1, with Andre Lange, Alexander Roediger, Kevin Kuske, and Martin Putze, starts the third run during the men's four-man bobsled final competition at the Vancouver 2010 Olympics in Whistler, British Columbia, Saturday, Feb. 27, 2010.

Germany's GER-1, with Andre Lange, Alexander Roediger, Kevin Kuske, and Martin Putze, brake in the finish area during the men's four-man bobsled final competition at the Vancouver 2010 Olympics in Whistler, British Columbia, Saturday, Feb. 27, 2010.

Gold

Silver

Canada's Lascelles Rown, David Bissett, Lyndon Rush and Chris Le Bihan celebrates their bronze medal for the men's four-man bobsled during the medal ceremony of the Vancouver 2010 Olympics in Whistler, British Columbia, Saturday, Feb. 27, 2010

 

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Rochette, Kim Yu-Na, Lysacek head gala
By Emmeline Moore
Sun Feb 28 2010
Joannie Rochette thanked the public for their support in a gala finale which featured gold medallists Kim Yu-Na and Evan Lysacek and brought the curtain down on two weeks of Olympics figure skating on Saturday.
Rochette, 24, skated a Celine Dion-themed tribute Vol (Flight) for her mother Therese who died just days before her bronze place finish in Vancouver.
Wearing dark mauve, the Canadian bronze medallist again earned an ovation from the home crowd, as she bid farewell to the Pacific Coliseum rink which has been the scene of the most painful and memorable moments of her life.

The 12 medallists from the four disciplines - men's, women's, pairs and ice dancing - performed during a two-and-a-half hour show alongside top-placed finishers, children and up-and-coming Canadian skaters.
South Korean superstar Kim took to the ice to the chants of "Yu-Na" from her many fans.

South Korea's Kim Yu-na prepares to enter the ice for her performance during the figure skating exhibition gala at the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics, February 27, 2010.

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The fact she missed her opening jump didn't matter, as the 19-year-old's rivalry with Japan's Mao Asada was forgotten in her skate to Jules Massenet's Meditation from Thais.
Silver medallist Asada, introduced to the public as the Queen of the triple axel, skated to Paganini's Caprice while teammate Miki Ando chose the classical "Requiem" by Mozart.

"It's sad that it's come to an end, it's been a dream," said Lysacek, who performed to Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue.
"Tonight we skate freely, without rules and show our technical skills and passion for performance. The greatest skaters in the world are skating as one.
"I haven't got much sleep since (his gold medal performance), I just want to stay awake to enjoy the whole experience."

Evan Lysacek (L) of the U.S. , Russia's Yevgeny Plushenko (top R), Oksana Domnina (2nd L, top) and Maxim Shabalin (2nd R, top) and Canada's Tessa Virtue (bottom L) and Scott Moir skate as they are introduced during the figure skating exhibition gala at the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics, February 27, 2010.

Canada's first ice dance gold medallists Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir received a rousing reception for their comical routine Everyone Dance Now where she plays the ballerina in a black tutu to his Canada ice hockey fan.

Russia's Yevgeny Plushenko, the deposed men's champion, skated to the French song Je suis malade by Serge Lama, while Japan's Daisuke Takahashi performed to Okawari's Luv Letter.
China's acrobatic pairs skaters were well represented, led by gold medallists Shen Xhe and Zhao Hongbo, who skated to Andrea Boccelli's Io Ci Saro before a spectacular display of fireworks brought the event to a close.
© AFP 2010

 

[mayliewwan]

Re: canadian kill figure skating then complain about it from another canadian

Rubbish. It was the judges that killed it. Commies judges sided with the Russian pair while no commies judges except the French judge sided with the Canadian.
Sally Stapleford, the chair of ISU confronted the French judge Marie Reine le Gounge, who the ADMITTED, that she was pressured by Didier Gaihaquet , the head of French Skating federation to voted for the Russian pair REGARDLESS of how others performed.
I too watched that final. Sale/Pelletier were robbed by bias judges. You never seen 2 gold medals or 2 silver medals or 2 bronze medals being awarded???

sorry this is a repeat news, but just to let people know or remember, the one who kill figure skating, are the 2002 olympic pairs, when the canadian figure skating federation complain about the result and ISU, gave ridiculous 2 gold medals, what ? 2 gold, what is this? Is this a town children game?
after that, they (ISU) went into mountain cave for months and come out with the present system, which take the risk out,and give peanuts to those who risk it all.
in the past they compare the skating in that particular day,now it is an absolute system, no comparsion. Just mark each element.
That is what kill skating, it is the canadian.



The night they killed figure skating
Elvis Stojko

VANCOUVER, British Columbia – Sorry, Evan Lysacek.

You’re a great skater and all.

But that wasn’t Olympic champion material.

How can you be Olympic champion when you don’t even try the quad? If you’re going to take the quad out, why not take out another triple axel and just have more of the other stuff so the International Skating Union can make it more into an “art” recital.

Plushenko had a great performance. His footwork was great and maybe his spins weren’t quite as good as Lysacek’s, but it wasn’t that big of a difference. He also had a quad toe triple toe that wasn’t even attempted by anyone else. He did both triple axels, so all the jumps were there.

But the judges’ scoring was ridiculous.

Because of it, the sport took a step backward. Brian Boitano did the same thing, technically, in 1988. There are junior skaters who can skate that same program.

And the judges’ scoring probably killed figure skating because kids now are going to see this and say, “Oh, I don’t need a quad. I can just do great footwork for presentation marks and do a couple of nice spins and make it to Olympic champion.” With that type of scoring, you don’t have to risk it. You can play it safe and win gold.

In what other sports do you have to hold back in order to win?

The International Skating Union has taken the risk out of figure skating and it makes me sick.

If Plushenko had made some mistakes, then sure, maybe Lysacek deserves gold. But when you take the risk out of skaters’ programs, it doesn’t compute to me.

And it’s not a personal thing. I like Evan. But when you compare performances and have an outcome like this, the sport is going backward. And it hurts me to say it because I love this sport. But the judges made a mockery of it by giving Lysacek the gold.

I don’t want to rain on anybody’s parade because it’s not the skaters’ fault. It’s the system. And the figure skating community wants to control who wins and who loses. And what it does is it makes the component score more valid than the jumps so it can control whatever it wants. And that’s exactly what happened Thursday night at Pacific Coliseum.

How can the sport be put back on the right path? I have no idea. I haven’t even thought about it. It’s not up to me. Because people at the ISU obviously seem to know what they’re doing. Well, they think they know what they’re doing.

For me, the outcome on Thursday night was disappointing.

A few more thoughts on the men’s free skate:

• I thought Daisuke Takahashi was awesome. He tried the quad and he had the guts to go for it, and he should’ve been ahead of Lysacek in that aspect.

• Johnny Weir was great. He should’ve been higher than sixth – above Patrick Chan, who was fifth. Weir outskated Chan. He might’ve skated a little bit slow but he went out there and did his stuff. I feel bad for him.

• People say I’m hammering certain skaters. I’m not. It’s the system I don’t like and if you say I am biased … I already said I am not a fan of Weir’s skating, but he skated well tonight and deserved to be ahead of Chan.

In addition, Takahiko Kozuka – my favorite skater – did not get the points he deserved. He skated great, had awesome spins, the best edges in the competition, was very close with the quad and did a ton of triples.

Figure skating gets no respect because of outcomes like this. More feathers, head-flinging and so-called step sequences done at walking speed – that’s what the system wants.

I am going to watch hockey, where athletes are allowed to push the envelope. A real sport.


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Oh curling is not a sport, and 2 man luge is an gay sport.

 

[singveld]

Re: canadian kill figure skating then complain about it from another canadian

Rubbish. It was the judges that killed it. Commies judges sided with the Russian pair while no commies judges except the French judge sided with the Canadian.
Sally Stapleford, the chair of ISU confronted the French judge Marie Reine le Gounge, who the ADMITTED, that she was pressured by Didier Gaihaquet , the head of French Skating federation to voted for the Russian pair REGARDLESS of how others performed.
I too watched that final. Sale/Pelletier were robbed by bias judges. You never seen 2 gold medals or 2 silver medals or 2 bronze medals being awarded???

well, the russian was better in 2002 than canadian, they were not rob.

As for judges who vote together for their friends, last for decades, it is not the best system, but in all it was better than what we have now.

Look at olympics 1998,2002, shocking result at the top, surprise result for the people that go for broke. look at now, it is like an coronation. They already decide the winner before hand.

look at Joannie 3 rd place and see her skated, please the amercian gal did much more, why she did not win bronze, because of all the bias judges you talk about. Bias judges is still here and they have a faulted absolute system.
So, we have bias judges before 2002 and now we have bias judges and bad scoring system.

Look at the men 2002 olympics and the standard now, please it has gone way down, the bronze medal of 2002 did 3 quad in free. Well, the gold medal of 2002 men will wipe out the 2010 olympic.

 

[mayliewwan]

Re: canadian kill figure skating then complain about it from another canadian

Aiyooo... for someone who loves figure skating and accusing 2 man luge as gay sport. Hope you realize that there are lots of male figure skaters who are gay. eg, Is Evan Lysacek gay or bisexual??? Is Evgeny Plushenko gay or bisexual?? Johnny Weir is gay. And your favourite Kim, her coach(Brian Orser) is gay

Curling may not be a sport to you. But in Canada,it can competes with figure skating for spectators



Oh curling is not a sport, and 2 man luge is an gay sport.

 

[singveld]

Re: canadian kill figure skating then complain about it from another canadian

Aiyooo... for someone who loves figure skating and accusing 2 man luge as gay sport. Hope you realize that there are lots of male figure skaters who are gay. eg, Is Evan Lysacek gay or bisexual??? Is Evgeny Plushenko gay or bisexual?? Johnny Weir is gay. And your favourite Kim, her coach(Brian Orser) is gay

Curling may not be a sport to you. But in Canada,it can competes with figure skating for spectators

Oh curling is not a sport, and 2 man luge is an gay sport.

2 man luge competitor may not be gay.
but the sport look real gay, because two man lie on each other wearing skin tight suit.
come on, it is stupid sport.

curling is a game not a sport, i dun care how popular it is, it is so boring to watch.

canadian fxxk up the figure skating , i hope their hockey team lose to USA.

USA USA USA.

 

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also i have no problem with gay people. They design wonderful clothing. Make great wedding planner. Design wonderful car and furniture.

I am sure Evan costume designer is not gay, i think... it sucks.

Two men on each other is stupid stupid stupid.

do you know which sport i am talking about, or you just want to argue for argument sake. like most sinkies gals.

 

[singveld]

Re: canadian kill figure skating then complain about it from another canadian

Hope you realize that there are lots of male figure skaters who are gay. eg, Is Evan Lysacek gay or bisexual???

Evan Lysacek has a hot chick, olympic gold in gymnastic.

also weir is not gay, he said so, but most of all, do you agree he should be 6 place after his performance, was there any bias judges who dun like him and his tv show.
so what do you think of the scoring system now.

you have to compare each and everyone on the day, and reward risk and things that cannot be measure.

 

[mayliewwan]

US in tears (Sidney Crosbie broke US hearts)
Better believe it
Sorry...no repeat of the 1980 miracle ice
Canada is the better team in the end

The best Hockey game ever!

Canada in tears!

Could not believe it!

Maybe better than 1980 USSR VS USA!

 

[singveld]

DAMN DAMN DAMN. USA did well though. To give the canada a scare.

ice hockey suck anyway. the only time i would watch another ice hockey match will be next time in sochi.

 

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injure in training, still compete and won bronze, so weak need help to get up podium

VANCOUVER, British Columbia — Petra Majdic was awarded Slovenia’s Golden Order of Services for winning her country’s first medal in cross-country skiing after suffering injuries during a warm-up crash.

Now Slovenia’s Olympic team is considering a lawsuit against the Olympic organizers for not taking steps to prevent the incident.

Majdic remained in the hospital Friday. She was admitted Wednesday after receiving her bronze medal from the women’s 1.4-kilometer sprint while in a wheelchair. She sustained four broken ribs and a collapsed lung after flying off an icy downhill descent and landing in a creekbed about 10 feet below the race track. Both of her ski poles and one of her skis were destroyed by the hard landing. She was given pain-killers before racing.

Branislav Dimitrovic, a spokesman for the team, said Majdic will likely be released on Saturday evening. But she won’t be competing in the women’s 30-kilometer race as she had hoped immediately after the sprint race.

“Her Olympics are finished,” he said.

The Slovenian team filed formal complaints about the incident with the International Ski Federation, the International Olympic Committee and the Vancouver Games organizers on Thursday. Dimitrovic said that a legal action was also likely.

“It wasn’t safe,” Dimitrovic said. “It wasn’t technically protected. Then, after Petra’s fall, they improved the site.”

Even before the incident, some skiers complained about two corners on the circuit. They combine 180-degree bends with steep drops. Because cross-country skis do not have the metal edges of downhill skis, some of the athletes clearly found those bends difficult to handle during the morning when the snow was icy.

 

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Rochette, Majdic share Terry Fox Award

The Canadian Press
Canadian figure skater and Olympic bronze medalist Joannie Rochette, shown, is co-recipient of the Terry Fox Award along with Slovenian cross-country skier Petra Majdic. Canadian figure skater and Olympic bronze medalist Joannie Rochette, shown, is co-recipient of the Terry Fox Award along with Slovenian cross-country skier Petra Majdic. (Gerry Broome/Associated Press)

Canadian figure skater Joannie Rochette and Slovenian cross-country skier Petra Majdic are the winners of the Terry Fox Award at the Vancouver Olympics.

The award, created for the 2010 Games by the Fox family and Vancouver organizers, is named for the heroic amputee runner who set out on a cross-country trek to raise funds for cancer research in 1980. It is presented to an athlete who embodies the values that Fox did, showing determination and humility in the face of obstacles.

Rochette, from Île-Dupas, Que., won a bronze medal less than a week after her mom, Thérèse, died in Vancouver.

"There wasn't a dry eye in the house when she took to the ice on Tuesday after her mother's death," John Furlong, CEO of the Vancouver organizing committee, said in a statement. "We all held our breath and willed her on as she gave a remarkable, dignified performance — one that helped her earn bronze. Her grief, determination and her grace have touched all of us."

'I want to set an example that will never be forgotten.'—Terry Fox

The 24-year-old's medal was Canada's first in Olympic women's singles since Elizabeth Manley claimed silver at the 1988 Calgary Games.

Majdic, 30, captured bronze despite a crash in training that left her with four fractured ribs and a collapsed lung.

"She performed in pain knowing her country and family were counting on her to win Slovenia's first medal at the Games — and she did with a bronze-medal finish," Furlong said.

The athletes were selected by a committee that included Fox's brother, Darrell, sportscaster Brian Williams, Olympian and VANOC board member Charmaine Crooks and former rower Tricia Smith.

"We are so pleased to see this award, named in honour of Terry, go towards Petra and Joannie, athletes who embody many of the same qualities he did as he pushed himself day after day towards his goal of finding a cure for cancer," Betty Fox, Terry's mother, said in a statement. "This year marks the 30th anniversary of my son's Marathon of Hope.

"Watching Petra and Joannie, and their determination to carry on and triumph is something Canadians and the world will not forget. They represent the best of us and what we can accomplish — just like Terry."

Fox's cross-Canada trek was cut short when the cancer spread to his lungs and he died in 1981 at age 22.

The awards are made out of nickel and wood, and similar in style to the Vancouver 2010 medals. They also include a quote from Fox in both English and French: "I want to set an example that will never be forgotten."

 

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[littlefish]

February 13, 2010
Kumaritashvili killed in luge training

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Somehow, I think if something like this had happened during the Beijing Olympics, you will never hear the end of it from the Western media.

 

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Ah..................finally

i am happy they send the cirque du soleil chief engineer to solve the 4th ice cauldron issue.

 

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let count the cauldron lit and distinguish

3 person lit inner
4 person lit outer
inner distinguish
1 person lit inner
inner and outer distinguish at end

what is this????

normally one lit , and distinguish at end

they put the outer one in the center of vancouver so that people can go and see it,

yeah then they put a steel mesh around it. very nice of them.

 

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what a grand show by russia

from vancouver to sochi, what a big drop in standard, from first to third world.