Winnie Xi shitting his pants over HK right now!! Readying his PLA troops!!

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Try to shoot Xijinping's lorries! Live Fire TESTED!
some models allowed to sell to approved civilians.

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• 第三代猛士多用途车辆，在控制成本、保证易用性的基础上，提供了针对中小口径枪弹、爆炸碎片、地雷的相当防护能力，这令其能够替代一部分中轻型轮式、履带式装甲输送车乃至步兵战车，执行低强度直接作战任务。这在我国广阔的边疆地区有关键性的实用价值。（来源：军事纪实 沉默的山羊）

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• 新浪军事深度：近日，中国第三代猛士轻型轮式装甲多用途车辆，在最新视频中全方位曝光！许多细节，首次公开展示，展示了这一中国最新型战车的强大实力！

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• 说起这一中国陆军革命性的轻型多用途车辆，不得不从新中国最早的轻型通用车辆说起 —— 最初我军配备的是缴获的少量美国吉普车。新中国领导人在美国吉普上进行了著名的胜利庆典仪式。随后，苏联向中国提供了更为先进的吉普车，此后中国实现了著名的北京吉普的国产化。

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• 这一中国首个大量生产装备的吉普，发挥了重大作用，在还击战中也登上战场。但是到了世纪之交，这一吉普已经远落后于世界先进水平。但中国当时由于国力限制，长期未能打造有力的相关产品，直到近年猛士多用途车辆的出现，才使得我军拥有了类似美军悍马的出色通用车型。

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• 第一代猛士的出现，立即令我军获得了极为强大的一种轻型通用车辆，首先通过宽大的底盘和出色的动力，解决了过去相关车辆运载量太低的问题；其次，克服了老式吉普高速行驶中转向和紧急刹车，车体因悬挂限制而稳定性低的缺陷；再次，提供了一个极为有效的改进发展平台。

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• 这一多用途车辆，能够广泛用于战术突击、支援后勤以及通勤，保证了相当水平的越野高机动性，安全而不至于过于昂贵。这一车辆的主要技术要点包括，采用动力强劲的柴油发动机，

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• 四轮独立悬挂，全时四驱，前后车轴距离等数据出色，无论公路行驶还是越野均游刃有余。宽截面低压防弹轮胎、中央充放气系统等技术的运用，也令其获益不浅。其接近角、离去角合理，能克服较为困难的自然障碍。

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• 虽然猛士给陆军官兵带来了巨大的改善，但它也并非十全十美。早期的猛士，与早期的美国悍马一样，主要问题出在防护性太差这一细节上。这一代车辆缺少必要的防护措施，士兵无法驾驶它进行相对复杂的作战任务，过于易于被枪弹、地雷、炮弹碎片摧毁。

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• 于是，第三代猛士装甲改造车型闪亮登场！这并非一种简单在早期猛士上增加装甲的车型，而是综合考虑、优化设计的全新装甲车辆 —— 它拥有完善的车身防弹钢板、防弹玻璃观察窗、遥控机枪/榴弹发射器转塔等在防护上极为关键的设备。

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• 在难以严密保护的发动机进气散热、排气部分，运用网状防弹材料，提供有效保护。车底设置装甲板，改进车底设计，提供爆炸力量偏转的效果。

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• 可以遇见第三代猛士的吨位必然大幅度增加，预计仅装甲部分增重就超过一吨，某种意义上它已经和过去的猛士没有太大关联，是一种全新设计。特别值得再次强调的是第三代猛士在装甲、动力、车架、悬挂等领域进行了全盘考虑与整体设计，使得它不像美国悍马装甲型号那样只是修修补补而导致驾驶能力和越野能力直线下降。

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• 显然第三代猛士非常适应我国可能面对的现代反恐战争的需要，且可以迅速改装为机炮、反坦克导弹、迫击炮、防空导弹甚至超轻型榴弹炮的作战平台，与基本的运输型搭配成完善的战车作战体系。

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• 未来，第三代猛士将可以于中型卡车尺寸大小的重型防雷车、超轻型突击车组合，形成成本相对可控的完善、多级别轮式战车体系。届时，我军陆战可运用的平台将更加多样化、灵活化，针对性更强，整体作战能力将有质的提高。

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Can be 扛 7.62 mm bullets! My third-generation warrior armored car can be exposed to bulletproof


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The third-generation warrior multi-purpose vehicle provides considerable protection against small and medium-calibre bullets, explosive debris, and mines on the basis of cost control and ease of use, which makes it possible to replace some of the light-weight wheeled and tracked armor. Transport vehicles and even infantry fighting vehicles perform low-intensity direct combat missions. This has key practical value in China's vast frontier regions. (Source: Military Documentary Silent Goat)

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Sina military depth: Recently, China's third-generation warrior light wheeled armored multi-purpose vehicle, all-round exposure in the latest video! Many details, the first public display, showcases the power of this latest Chinese tank!

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Speaking of the revolutionary light multi-purpose vehicle of the Chinese Army, it has to start with the earliest light-duty vehicles in New China - initially our army was equipped with a small amount of American jeep seized. The new Chinese leaders staged a famous victory ceremony at the American Jeep. Subsequently, the Soviet Union provided China with a more advanced jeep, and since then China has achieved the localization of the famous Beijing Jeep.

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The Jeep, the first large-scale production equipment in China, played a major role and was also on the battlefield in the counterattack. But by the turn of the century, this jeep has fallen far behind the world's advanced level. However, due to national power restrictions, China had not been able to build strong related products for a long time. Until the emergence of warrior multi-purpose vehicles in recent years, our military had an excellent universal model similar to the US military.


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The emergence of the first generation of warriors immediately gave our army an extremely powerful light-duty vehicle. First of all, through the large chassis and excellent power, it solved the problem of the low load of related vehicles in the past. Secondly, it overcame the old jeep. Steering and emergency braking at high speeds, the car body has low stability due to suspension restrictions; again, it provides an extremely effective platform for improvement.


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This versatile vehicle can be used extensively for tactical assaults, support logistics and commuting, ensuring a high level of off-road high mobility, safe and not too expensive. The main technical points of this vehicle include the use of a powerful diesel engine.

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Four-wheel independent suspension, full-time four-wheel drive, front and rear axle distance and other data, excellent road, whether it is off-road or off-road. The use of technologies such as wide-section low-pressure bulletproof tires and central charging and deflation systems has also benefited them. Its approach angle and departure angle are reasonable, and it can overcome difficult natural obstacles.

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Although the Warriors have brought tremendous improvements to the Army officers and men, it is not perfect. The early warriors, like the early American Hummers, had the main problem of being too poorly protected. This generation of vehicles lacked the necessary protective measures, and soldiers could not drive it for relatively complex combat missions, which were too easy to be destroyed by bullets, mines, and shrapnel.

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So, the third generation of the Warrior armored remodeling model debut! This is not a simple model that adds armor to the early warriors, but a new armored vehicle that is comprehensively considered and optimized. It has a complete body bulletproof steel plate, bulletproof glass observation window, remote control machine gun/grenade launcher turret, etc. A device that is extremely critical in protection.


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In the part of the engine heat dissipation and exhaust that is difficult to protect, the mesh bulletproof material is used to provide effective protection. The bottom of the vehicle is equipped with an armor plate to improve the design of the underbody and provide the effect of deflection of the explosive force.


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The tonnage that can meet the third generation of warriors is bound to increase substantially. It is expected that only part of the armor will gain more than one ton. In a sense, it has not been much related to the warriors of the past. It is a brand new design. It is particularly worthy of re-emphasizing that the third-generation warrior has carried out a comprehensive consideration and overall design in the fields of armor, power, frame, suspension, etc., making it not like the American Hummer armor model, which is just tinkering and leads to driving ability and off-road capability. decline.

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Obviously, the third generation of warriors are very adapted to the needs of the modern anti-terrorism war that China may face, and can be quickly converted into a combat platform for machine guns, anti-tank missiles, mortars, anti-aircraft missiles and even ultra-light howitzers, with the basic transport type. A perfect chariot combat system.

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In the future, the third generation of warriors will be available in medium truck sizes.

Wow soo good. Pls invade fuckeinland now

 

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Wow soo good. Pls invade fuckeinland now

It will happen when your jaw drop and Chow Ang Moh shit pants.

 

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It will happen when your jaw drop and Chow Ang Moh shit pants.

That will be forever

 

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That will be forever

Not sure weather I am more impatient than you, or you are more impatient than me. But I know it will happen, because stupid idea of Peaceful Unification will fail. Dotard-land is weak and very desperate, hence will trigger the pending 武统 to happen by as spark. PLA is already impatient. Their toys are already too good. And their tradition was to fight USA with 100X worse poor outdated weapons, not afraid to die.

Beijing politicians must get their civilized toxic ideas such as Peace out of their heads ASAP.

PLA is mounting Laser weapon on J-20 warplanes, USA still fail in their expensive and useless technology & corrupt between Pentagon officials & arms dealers.


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歼20为何不配航炮 或准备安装100KW级机载激光炮

2019年06月13日 11:30 新浪军事



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歼20展示机载武器，外界注意到它没有安装航炮
歼20战斗机首飞以来，一直是外界关注对象。有一点尤其让人感觉有兴趣，那就是歼20似乎没有配备机炮，外界认为歼20没有机炮，近距格斗可能受到影响。
近日一则消息打消了外界疑虑，国内相关单位也完成了100KW级机载激光武器系统样机研制，即将进入测试阶段。从这个消息来看，似乎可以推测歼-20战斗机未来可能会配备这样的激光器作为近距空战武器，未来还有可能配备功率更大激光器，执行远距离打击任务，

隐身飞机如何安装航炮是一个难题

因为不能影响飞机隐身性能
机载激光武器是现代机载武器发展趋势，激光与炮弹、导弹相比，速度更快，可以做到发现即摧毁。另外激光没有后座力，对于飞机影响更小，能够连续攻击目标。不过机载激光发展难度也非常高，战斗机内部空间有限，载荷也比较低，能源供应也不高，另外激光武器散热烈、冷却也令人头疼。所以机载激光武器一直在发展之中。计划F-35战斗机配备的激光武器在2019年才完成首次测试，2021年之后才有可能投入实用，它的功率就在100KW级。所以外界推测国产机载激光武器极有可能会配备歼-20战斗机上面。
新世纪国产激光武器取得了长足进展，地面激光武器已经进入实用阶段，在珠海航展等国内外展会上多次公开亮相，例如国产LW-30激光防空武器，它采用了国产30KW级激光器，能够击落3公里范围内无人机。机载激光武器方面也取得了较大突破，2016年珠海航展，相关单位展出了国产红外/激光干扰吊舱，这种吊舱配备有激光器，可以发射激光压制、干扰红外成像制导系统，帮助作战飞机对抗红外成像制导空空导弹攻击。

国产LW30型激光炮采用国产30KW级激光器

国产红外/激光干扰吊舱
众所周知，隐身战斗机航炮安装是一个难题，传统航炮露出机体表面，容易反射雷达电波，增加飞机RCS，所以隐身战斗机如何安装航炮令人头疼，F-22、F-35A均采用了收缩式航炮，虽然解决了问题，不过也付出了重量上代价。从现代空战来看，航炮作用越来越小，因此隐身战斗机是否需要付出这么大代价安装航炮也存在争议，F-35B、F-35C就没有安装航炮。所以歼-20战斗机可能考虑到隐身、重量等方面因素，也没有安装航炮。

国产100KW级机载激光武器已经进入样机测试阶段
从现在来看，歼-20设计师眼光长远，认为航炮已经是明日黄花，机载激光武器才是未来发展趋势，所以歼-20没有安装航炮，但是配备了更加先进的分布式光学孔径系统，现代激光器就集成在光电系统之中，这样不但实现全向空情信息探测和感知，也为未来配备机载激光武器打下了坚实的基础。根据国产LW30激光炮透露的信息，国内数十KW级激光器已经实用，这个指标能够在数公里内打击小型无人机、火箭等小型空中目标，压制光电系统、制导系统等设备，正在研制的100KW级机载激光武器作用距离可以提高到10公里左右，能够拦截巡航导弹、中大型无人机等更大空中目标。未来还可能进一步提高到300KW级以上，打击范围更大，拦截目标更多，甚至还可以拦截战术弹道导弹。

歼-20配备激光武器之后，将会成为新一代空中霸主
从这里我们可以推测2025年之后，歼-20可能就会配备机载激光武器，能够对数公里内目标进行攻击，优异隐身能力、卓越机动性能再加上机载激光武器，歼20将成为新一代空中霸主。（作者署名：小飞猪观察）

歼20 Why not match the gun or prepare to install the 100KW class airborne laser cannon
June 13, 2019 11:30 Sina Military
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歼20 shows airborne weapons, the outside world noticed that it did not install the cannon

Since the first flight of the 歼20 fighter, it has been the focus of attention. One thing that is particularly interesting is that the 歼20 does not seem to have a cannon. The outside world believes that the 歼20 does not have a cannon, and close combat may be affected.

A recent news dispelled external doubts, and domestic related units also completed the development of a prototype of the 100KW airborne laser weapon system, which is about to enter the testing phase. Judging from this news, it seems that it can be speculated that the J-20 fighter may be equipped with such a laser as a close-range air combat weapon in the future. In the future, it is possible to equip a larger power laser to perform long-range strike missions.

How to install a cannon in a stealth aircraft is a problem

Because it can't affect the stealth performance of the aircraft

Airborne laser weapons are the development trend of modern airborne weapons. Compared with missiles and missiles, lasers are faster and can be found and destroyed. In addition, the laser has no recoil, which has less impact on the aircraft and can continuously attack the target. However, the development of airborne lasers is also very difficult. The internal space of the fighters is limited, the load is relatively low, and the energy supply is not high. In addition, the laser weapons are cooled and cooled, which is also a headache. Therefore, airborne laser weapons have been developing. The laser weapon equipped with the F-35 fighter is only first tested in 2019, and it is only possible to put it into practical use after 2021. Its power is 100KW. Therefore, it is speculated that domestic airborne laser weapons are likely to be equipped with 歼-20 fighters.

In the new century, domestic laser weapons have made great progress. The ground laser weapons have entered the practical stage and have been publicly exhibited at many domestic and international exhibitions such as Zhuhai Air Show. For example, the domestic LW-30 laser air defense weapon uses a domestic 30KW laser. Shoot down drones within 3 km. The airborne laser weapon also made a big breakthrough. At the 2016 Zhuhai Air Show, the relevant units exhibited a domestic infrared/laser interference pod, which is equipped with a laser that can emit laser suppression and interfere with the infrared imaging guidance system. Help combat aircraft against infrared imaging guided air-to-air missile attacks.

Domestic LW30 laser cannon uses domestic 30KW laser

Domestic infrared / laser interference pod

As we all know, the installation of stealth fighter aircraft is a problem. The traditional cannon is exposed on the surface of the body, it is easy to reflect the radar wave and increase the RCS of the aircraft. Therefore, how to install the cannon in the stealth fighter is a headache. The F-22 and F-35A adopt the contraction type. The cannon, although solving the problem, also paid a weight. From the perspective of modern air combat, the role of the cannon is getting smaller and smaller. Therefore, it is controversial whether the stealth fighter needs to pay such a large price to install the cannon. The F-35B and F-35C do not have the cannon installed. Therefore, the J-20 fighter may take into account factors such as stealth and weight, and no guns are installed.

Domestic 100KW airborne laser weapon has entered the prototype test phase

From now on, the 歼-20 designer has a long-term vision and believes that the cannon is already a yellow flower. The airborne laser weapon is the future development trend, so the 歼-20 does not have a cannon installed, but is equipped with a more advanced distributed optical aperture. System, modern laser is integrated in the photoelectric system, which not only realizes the detection and perception of omnidirectional air information, but also lays a solid foundation for the future equipped with airborne laser weapons. According to the information disclosed by the domestic LW30 laser cannon, dozens of domestic KW lasers have been put into practical use. This indicator can attack small airborne targets such as small drones and rockets within a few kilometers, and suppress photoelectric equipment, guidance systems and other equipment. 100KW is being developed. The range of airborne laser weapons can be increased to about 10 kilometers, and it can intercept larger air targets such as cruise missiles and medium and large drones. In the future, it is possible to further increase it to the level of 300KW or more, to strike a larger range, to intercept more targets, and even intercept tactical ballistic missiles.

歼-20 equipped with laser weapons, will become the new generation of air overlord

From here we can speculate that after 2025, the J-20 may be equipped with an airborne laser weapon capable of attacking targets within a few kilometers. Excellent stealth capability, excellent maneuverability and airborne laser weapons, the 歼20 will become new A generation of air overlord. (Author's signature: Xiaofei pig observation)

 

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PLA says US military is junk & crap, and ready to cannibalize them. Their expensive junk are jokes and they really bragged too much about their junks!


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• 在此前的《出鞘》中我们简单论证了美军是否有能力以地面力量介入未来有可能爆发的台海武统战争。在留言中，有不少网友提出了美军在西太平洋海域集结多个航母战斗群，以海空力量干涉台海战争的可能性。确实，作为美国全球战略中对外干涉的急先锋，但凡提及美国的干涉能力，其拥有的11艘航空母舰必然是绕不开的一个话题。那么今天我们就来谈谈美国海军的航母战斗群是否有能力干涉台海战争。

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• 关于美国的航母战斗群，前美国总统比尔·克林顿曾经有过一段不乏诙谐的描述：每当华盛顿听到“危机”这个词时，每个人都无一例外的会首先问这样一个问题——最近的航母在哪？很多人觉得克林顿的这句话体现出了美国航母战斗群的强大，不过在笔者看来，这与其说体现出了美国航母战斗群的强大，不如说体现出了美国人对其航母战斗群的依赖。

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• 1902年，英国人麦金德提出了著名的“世界岛”理论。在世界岛理论中，欧亚大陆因为其丰富的自然资源、众多的人口而被认为是世界的“中心地带”，或者称“世界岛”；相对的，如非洲、大洋洲、南北美洲这样的地方，因为距离世界岛较为遥远，且远隔重洋，所以被称为“外岛”。而因为“谁控制了世界岛，谁就控制了世界”，所以身处“外岛”，受地理阻隔难以将力量投射到“世界岛”的美国，在“控制世界”这个课题上是有先天不足的。

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• 后来的第一次、第二次世界大战、冷战以及后冷战时代的地缘冲突中，美国在投射能力上的缺陷被暴露无遗。比如，在1950年爆发的朝鲜战争中，美国人先是被一个东北亚小国打得差点在釜山“跳海”，后是在有其他16国联军支援，且自身“全力一搏”的状态下硬是被两个刚刚建国没几年的国家从鸭绿江边打回了三八线上。再如，在自身国力远远超出俄罗斯的前提下，美国人居然被俄罗斯人在格鲁吉亚、叙利亚、克里米亚、东乌克兰等利益地区全方位无死角的碾压。

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• 这种开局选择“天堂难度”种田，结果“一身神装”之后发现自己压根打不回世界岛的尴尬，为19-20世纪军事领域最重要的理论之一——海权论的诞生提供了土壤，也使得马汉上校这种“以海制陆”的理论迅速成为了美国“国策树”上最重要的一环。但反过来说，只要有任何一个国家打破了美国人自上世纪40年代以来建立起的全球范围内的制海权，美国的世界霸权也就随之终结了。这也导致了美国人从来不敢直面自己的海军“不起作用”的可能性——尽管他们在格鲁吉亚、叙利亚、克里米亚和东乌克兰都没有起到任何实质性的作用。

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• 虽然是常识性问题，不过由于国内媒体在报道上经常出现偏差，所以这里我们还是要再明确一下航母战斗群的作战能力。从技术上来说，美国航母战斗群的攻击力量，主要来自于其搭载的舰载机联队（Carrier Air Wing，CVW）。在美国，每一艘超级航母可以搭载一个CVW，而每一个CVW都由4个战术飞机中队、1个预警机中队、1个电子战中队、1个直升机海上打击中队、1个直升机海上战斗中队和1个舰队后勤中队共9个中队组成。而这样的航母舰载机联队，总共有9个（所以网友假想的美帝11航母齐进的场面是不可能出现的，因为没那么多飞机……）。

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• 在本世纪初，美国CVW中的战术飞机中队分为战斗机中队（VF）和战斗攻击机中队（VFA）两种，前者由10架F-14战斗机或12架F/A-18战斗机组成，后者则由12架F/A-18E/F战斗机组成。此后随着F-14战斗机的退役以及F/A-18E/F战斗机的普及，美国CVW中的战术飞机中队全部替换为了有10-12架超级大黄蜂的VFA。换句话说，目前每个CVW都有且只有40-48架F/A-18E/F战斗机。而“美国一艘超级航母能搭载80-100架战斗机”的通俗说法是错误且没有任何依据的。

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• 在美国的11艘现役航空母舰中，华盛顿号、斯坦尼斯号和布什号三艘正在干船坞中维修；杜鲁门号目前正处于半退役状态，正在等待川大统领直接退役或者按原计划开始大修的最终决定；最新入役的福特号则尚未形成战斗力。

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• 除了这5艘“打死不能动”的航母以外，在其余的6艘航母中，卡尔文森号正在进行与F-35战斗机的磨合训练，一时半会还没有战斗力，想要恢复作战状态，可能需要30-90天的时间；尼米兹号、艾森豪威尔号目前正在北大西洋海域执行训练任务，想要部署至西太平洋地区，可能需要数周时间。

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• 换句话说目前美国在役的11艘航母中，仅常驻亚太的里根号能够在数天时间内奔赴作战地点，此外分别在波斯湾地区和美国东海岸执行任务的林肯号及罗斯福号有可能在十数天的时间内抵达；而其余的至多三艘航母至少还需要1个月的时间进行紧急部署。

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• 这样的兵力是一个什么概念呢？大概相当于台海开战的头几天时间内，美军能向战区部署大约六分之一个台空军的海军航空兵力（后者三代及以上战术飞机数量约为300架上下）。这一数字将在两周后增加至二分之一个台空军，并最终在开战的一至三个月后增加至一整个台空军的兵力——如果前面来的飞机还没有送干净的话。如果说开战时就部署在台湾岛的一整个台空军都无法在解放军的打击下生存多久，那么美军这几分之一个台空军的兵力轮流上来添油，自然更不是什么大问题。

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• 除了兵力不足以外，航空母舰相比于陆地机场最大的劣势在于其几乎没有什么抗损能力。由于空间和吨位极为有限，航空母舰的“功能”几乎全部堆叠于临近的空间内，一荣俱荣，一损俱损。不管是飞行甲板、油库、弹药库、机库这些作为“机场”的功能性区域，还是核反应堆、蒸汽轮机这些作为“船”的功能性区域。任何一个区域一旦被攻击，很难保证不牵连到其他的功能性区域，并最终导致整艘航母彻底失去战斗力。哪怕最终没有被击沉，被击中的航母恐怕也得“伤筋动骨一百天”，回去大修个三五个月才能再度披挂上阵。或许有人会说，航母相对于陆地机场有所谓“机动性优势”，但事实上，世界上还没有几艘航母不是在机动中被击沉的。

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• 相比之下大陆甚至台湾省的陆地机场则没有这些“蛋疼”的问题。陆地机场、尤其是专用的军用机场在建设过程中几乎不会受空间的限制，其油库、弹药库、机堡等重要设施可以布置的相当分散，且各个区域均可以置于极佳的防护之下。除非是在完全丧失制空权的情况下被对方的飞机在“贴脸距离”扔精确制导钻地炸弹，否则这些被厚厚的钢筋混凝土加固的功能性区域很难被破坏。而相对容易破坏的机场跑道，修起来也十分简单，比如美国就曾经研究过在被炸的坑坑洼洼的机场跑道上铺设钢板或其他板材来恢复战术飞机起降能力的维修方法。

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• 在战斗体系的构建上，岸基兵力同样狂甩航母好几条街。在岸上，远程预警雷达的功率和孔径远胜任何舰基雷达；岸基预警指挥机的雷达预警能力、战术指挥能力全方位无死角的吊打如今还只有八木天线阵列的、没有指挥能力的舰载飞行雷达；岸基特种飞机无论在数量还是功能上都远远胜过只能在小型平台上修修补补的舰载特种飞机，岸基区域防空导弹阵地、巡航导弹阵地、弹道导弹阵地等武器阵地隐蔽且不受平台容量限制……总的来说，建立在海上的作战体系，完全可以视作类似的岸基作战体系的阉割版，如果其在子系统上与岸基兵力没有代差（比如在伊拉克、叙利亚战场虐菜），只能被后者“按在地上摩擦”。

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• 所以最后我们还是要照例和对岸那些宁可膝盖生了根，都要跪在美国人脚底板下奴颜婢膝的跳梁小丑说一句：真别以为你作死的时候美国人能来“救”你，毕竟美国人就算既有贼心又有贼胆，他也没那个贼本事。

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In the previous "Sheathing", we briefly demonstrated whether the US military has the ability to intervene in the tyrannical war in the Taiwan Strait, which may break out in the future. In the message, many netizens proposed the possibility of the US military assembling a number of aircraft carrier battle groups in the western Pacific Ocean and interfering with the Taiwan Strait war by sea and air forces. Indeed, as the vanguard of foreign intervention in the US global strategy, when it comes to the US's ability to interfere, the 11 aircraft carriers it owns must be a topic that cannot be avoided. So today we will talk about whether the US Navy’s aircraft carrier battle group has the ability to interfere in the Taiwan Strait War.


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Regarding the US aircraft carrier battle group, former US President Bill Clinton once had a lot of humorous description: Whenever Washington hears the word "crisis", everyone will first ask such a question without exception. Where is the aircraft carrier? Many people think that Clinton’s words reflect the strength of the US aircraft carrier battle group, but in my opinion, this is not so much the strength of the US aircraft carrier battle group, but rather the Americans’ battle group for their aircraft carriers. rely.

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In 1902, the British McIntosh proposed the famous "world island" theory. In the world island theory, Eurasia is considered to be the “central zone” of the world, or “world island” because of its abundant natural resources and numerous populations; relatively, such as Africa, Oceania, North and South America. Because it is far away from the world island and distant from the ocean, it is called the "outer island." And because "who controls the world island, who controls the world", so in the "outer island", the United States is difficult to project power to the "world island" by geographical barriers, there is a congenital deficiency in the topic of "control the world" of.


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In the subsequent geopolitical conflicts of the First World War, the Second World War, and the post-Cold War era, the defects of the United States in projection capabilities were exposed. For example, in the Korean War that broke out in 1950, the Americans were first beaten by a small country in Northeast Asia in Busan, and then they were supported by other 16-nation coalition forces, and they were "all-out". It was hit back to the 38th parallel from the Yalu River by two countries that had just been established for a few years. For another example, under the premise that its national strength is far beyond Russia, the Americans are actually crushed by Russians in all areas of interest such as Georgia, Syria, Crimea, and Eastern Ukraine.

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This kind of opening chose "Difficulty in Heaven" to farm. As a result, after "one-day costume", I found that I couldn’t get back to the world island, and provided the birth of Haiquan Theory, one of the most important theories in the military field in the 19th and 20th centuries. The soil has also made Colonel Mahan’s theory of “sea-based land” quickly become the most important part of the US “national policy tree”. On the other hand, as long as any country breaks the global sea power established by the Americans since the 1940s, the US world hegemony will end. This has also led Americans to never face the possibility that their navy "does not work" - even though they have not played any substantive role in Georgia, Syria, Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.


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Although it is a common-sense problem, because the domestic media often has deviations in reporting, we still have to clarify the combat capability of the aircraft carrier battle group. Technically speaking, the attack power of the US aircraft carrier battle group mainly comes from its Carrier Air Wing (CVW). In the United States, each super aircraft carrier can carry a CVW, and each CVW consists of four tactical aircraft squadrons, an early warning squadron, an electronic warfare squadron, a helicopter maritime strike squadron, a helicopter maritime combat squadron, and A fleet logistics squadron consists of 9 squadrons. In this case, there are a total of nine aircraft carrier aircraft fleets (so the scenario of the netizen's imaginary US Emperor 11 aircraft carrier is impossible, because there are not so many planes...).


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At the beginning of this century, the tactical aircraft squadrons in the US CVW were divided into two types: the fighter squadron (VF) and the combat attack squadron (VFA). The former consisted of 10 F-14 fighters or 12 F/A-18 fighters. It consists of 12 F/A-18E/F fighters. Since then, with the retirement of the F-14 fighter and the popularity of the F/A-18E/F fighter, the tactical aircraft squadrons in the US CVW have all been replaced by VFAs with 10-12 super Hornets. In other words, currently there are only 40-48 F/A-18E/F fighters per CVW. The popular saying that "a US super-carrier can carry 80-100 fighters" is wrong and has no basis.

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Among the 11 active aircraft carriers in the United States, the Washington, Stanis and Bush are being repaired in dry docks; the Truman is currently in a semi-retired state, waiting for the Sichuan University to directly retire or start the overhaul as originally planned. Decided; the latest Ford has not yet formed combat effectiveness.

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In addition to the five "killed and unable to move" aircraft carriers, among the remaining six aircraft carriers, the Calvinson is training with the F-35 fighters. There will be no combat power for one and a half hours, and they want to resume their operations. It may take 30-90 days; the Nimitz and Eisenhower are currently performing training missions in the North Atlantic Ocean, and it may take several weeks to deploy to the Western Pacific.

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In other words, of the 11 aircraft carriers currently in service in the United States, only the Reagan resident in the Asia-Pacific region can go to the operational site within a few days. In addition, the Lincoln and Roosevelt missions in the Persian Gulf region and the US East Coast respectively are possible. Arrived in a dozen days; and the remaining three aircraft carriers will need at least one month for emergency deployment.


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What is the concept of such a force? About the first few days of the war in the Taiwan Strait, the US military can deploy to the theater.

 

[syed putra]

In korea, mcarthur was prevented from attacking enemy supply lines in china. And reason why north korea and china was successful was the overwhelming number of troops they used.

 

[nightsafari]

HK chinks have ended up sucking too much Ang Moh cock and don't behave like proper chinks anymore.

All this "democracy" balderdash has no place in a chink society. Chinks in HK should just concentrate on cheating, lying and swindling as that is what the chinks are good at.

but they're doing it to imitate the ang mohs because...

ang mohs are da best!!

 

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Hong Kong may suspend controversial extradition Bill: Reports
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A placard is displayed during a protest following a day of violence over a proposed extradition bill, near the Legislative Council building in Hong Kong, China, June 13, 2019. REUTERS/Jorge Silva
15 Jun 2019 12:11PM
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HONG KONG: Hong Kong media reported on Saturday (Jun 15) the city's government would suspend a proposed law on extradition to mainland China that sparked widespread anger and violent protests, with leader Carrie Lam planning to address reporters later in the day.

Cracks began to appear on Friday in the support base for the extradition Bill with several pro-Beijing politicians and a senior adviser to Lam saying discussion of the Bill should be shelved for the time being.

The extradition Bill, which will cover Hong Kong's 7 million residents and foreign and Chinese nationals living or travelling in the city, has many concerned it may threaten the rule of law that underpins Hong Kong's international financial status.

READ: Hong Kong protests: How violence erupted in the city over a polarising extradition Bill

Around a million people, according to protest organisers, marched through Hong Kong last Sunday to oppose the Bill. Protests that continued through the week were met with tear gas, bean bag rounds and rubber bullets from police, plunging the city into turmoil and piling heavy pressure on Lam.

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Another protest march is planned for this Sunday.

Hong Kong news outlets including iCable, the South China Morning Post and Sing Tao newspaper reported that the Bill would be suspended on Saturday.

A statement from the government said Lam would address the media at 3pm on Saturday. It gave no further details.

Lam has not appeared in public or commented since Wednesday. Hong Kong media reported Lam was meeting pro-Beijing lawmakers around noon to explain her pending announcement.

READ: Hong Kong tycoons start moving assets offshore as fears rise over new extradition law

Backing down from efforts to drive the Bill through the city's legislature by July would have been unthinkable last week when the law's passage seemed inevitable as Lam remained defiant.

Beyond the public outcry, the extradition Bill had spooked some of Hong Kong's tycoons into starting to move their personal wealth offshore, according to financial advisers, bankers and lawyers familiar with the details.

And senior police officers have said Lam's refusal to heed public opinion was sowing resentment in the force, which was already battered by accusations of police brutality during the 2014 pro-democracy "Umbrella" civil disobedience movement.

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Images of police battling Hong Kong protestors have increased scepticism over the 'one country,
Images of police battling Hong Kong protestors have increased scepticism over the 'one country, two systems' model touted by Beijing AFP/ISAAC LAWRENCE
Michael Tien, a member of Hong Kong's legislature and a deputy to China's national parliament, said a total withdrawal of the Bill was unlikely.

"The amendment is supported by the central government, so I think a withdrawal would send a political message that the central government is wrong. This would not happen under 'one country, two systems'," he told Reuters, referring to the model under which Hong Kong enjoys semi-autonomy.

Tien, a member of the pro-Beijing camp, said he supported a suspension of the Bill without a timetable.

READ: Pressure mounts on Hong Kong leader from her own allies

READ: Support wavers in Hong Kong for extradition Bill after protests

Despite chatter that the government would hit pause on the Bill, organisers of last Sunday's protest march stood by plans for another march this Sunday. In addition to opposing the Bill they would also be calling for accountability of the police for the way protests have been handled.

Lam has said the extradition law is necessary to prevent criminals using Hong Kong as a place to hide and that human rights will be protected by the city's court which will decide on the extraditions on a case-by-case basis.

Critics, including leading lawyers and rights groups, note that China's justice system is controlled by the Communist Party, and marked by torture and forced confessions, arbitrary detention and poor access to lawyers.

Last Sunday's protest in the former British colony was the biggest political demonstration since its return to Chinese rule in 1997 under the "one country, two systems" deal. The agreement guarantees Hong Kong's special autonomy, including freedom of assembly, free press and independent judiciary.

Many accuse China of extensive meddling since then, including obstruction of democratic reforms, interference with elections and of being behind the disappearance of five Hong Kong-based booksellers, starting in 2015, who specialised in works critical of Chinese leaders.

Beijing has denied that it has overreached in Hong Kong.
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The ah tiong commies are really fucked up.. censor this n tat Kia suu like fuck.. northerners more kiasu than fuckeins

 

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It will be nice if guandong snd shenzhen join in the protest. Imagine a cantonese free state encapsulating the entire pearl delta area.not just hong kong. And embracing ang moh civil law. Communist china needs competition otherwise the country may stagnate,

 

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Hong Kong to suspend controversial extradition bill after widespread protests
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Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam has delayed indefinitely a proposed law to allow people to be extradited to mainland China for trial, after widespread anger and large-scale protests in the Asian financial hub.

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It is one of the most significant backdowns by the Government since Hong Kong was returned to Chinese rule
People marched through Hong Kong last week in protest
The bill has many concerned it may threaten the rule of law that underpins Hong Kong's international financial status
In one of the most significant backdowns by the Government since Hong Kong was returned to Chinese rule in 1997, Ms Lam said the city's legislature would stop all work on the bill.

Next steps would be decided after consultations with various parties, she said.

The extradition bill, which will cover Hong Kong's 7 million residents and foreign and Chinese nationals living or traveling in the city, has many concerned it may threaten the rule of law that underpins Hong Kong's international financial status.

'An axe above our heads'
'An axe above our heads'
There are new fears over Beijing's reach as Hong Kong considers changes to extradition laws.
Ms Lam told media on Saturday she took the move in response to widespread public unhappiness over the measure, which would enable authorities to send some suspects to stand trial in mainland courts.

"After repeated internal deliberations over the last two days, I now announce that the Government has decided to suspend the legislative amendment exercise," Ms Lam said.

"I want to stress that the Government is adopting an open mind … we have no intention to set a deadline for this work."

Ms Lam said she would "adopt a sincere and humble attitude in accepting criticism" over the Government's handling of the issue.

The announcement came ahead of another mass protest planned for Sunday and after clashes turned violent earlier in the week, leaving about 80 people injured, including 22 police officers.

Police officers fire tear gas during a demonstration against a proposed extradition bill in Hong Kong.
PHOTO Street demonstrations plunged the city into turmoil and added pressure on Ms Lam to back down.
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Extradition bill has not been withdrawn
The stand-off between police and protesters in the former British colony is Hong Kong's most severe political crisis since the Communist Party-ruled mainland took control more than two decades ago with a promise not to interfere with the city's civil liberties and courts.

A timeline of key events
A timeline of key events
When Britain handed Hong Kong back to China in 1997, remaining citizens were promised British capitalism and laws. In the intervening years, some argue that Beijing has squandered its promises.
Britain agreed to return Hong Kong to Chinese rule with the signing of the Sino-British Joint Declaration in 1984.

The document promised to return the territory to China in 1997 under a "one country, two systems" principle, with Beijing guaranteeing Hongkongers a high degree of autonomy and freedoms for a period of 50 years.

British Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt welcomed the Hong Kong Government's backdown.

"Well done HK Government for heeding concerns of the brave citizens who have stood up for their human rights," Mr Hunt said on Twitter.

"Safeguarding the rights and freedoms in the Sino-British Joint Declaration is the best future for HK and Britain stands behind this legally-binding agreement."

A woman with black hair and black-rimmed glasses is seen through a red gradient.
PHOTO Ms Lam was appointed chief executive of Hong Kong by a panel dominated by Beijing.
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Ms Lam previously said the extradition law was necessary to prevent criminals using Hong Kong as a place to hide and that human rights would be protected by the city's courts, which would decide on the extraditions on a case-by-case basis.

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'Everyone is feeling more despair'
A look back at Hong Kong's handover to China 21 years later.
Critics, including leading lawyers and rights groups, argued that China's justice system is controlled by the Communist Party and marked by torture and forced confessions, arbitrary detention and poor access to lawyers.

Ms Lam apologised for what she said were failures in her Government's work to convince and reassure the public, but said she had not withdrawn the bill.

"We will try it again if circumstances permit," she said.

Appearing calm and cheerful, at least at first, Ms Lam parried questions over whether she should step down and said she had strong support from Beijing for her decision.

Looking down a raised expressway, Hong Kong police present a blockage to hundreds of protesters gathered further up the road.
PHOTO The announcement came ahead of another mass protest planned for tomorrow.
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"I can tell you the Central People's Government has confidence in my judgment and they support me," she said.

She did not confirm, when asked, if she had met with Vice Premier Han Zheng to discuss the situation, but said she had reported on the issue to Beijing.

Ms Lam emphasised that avoiding further injuries, both for the public and for police, was a chief concern.

"It's possible there might be even worse confrontations that might be replaced by very serious injuries to my police colleagues and the public," she said.

Chapman Chen, a Hong Kong resident, joins the protest.
PHOTO Residents like Chapman Chen are concerned the extradition bill will erode civil liberties.
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"I don't want any of those injuries to happen."

Ms Lam defended the forceful moves by police during protests earlier in the week, saying some of those involved were "very violent".

Former officials urged Lam not to proceed
Prior to Saturday's announcement, some members of the Executive Council — Hong Kong's Cabinet — had asked Ms Lam to rethink plans to rush the bill's passage.

A group of former senior government officials issued a public letter urging her not to force a confrontation by pushing ahead with the unpopular legislation.

Police in riot gear near signs saying 'stop charging or we use force'.
PHOTO Ms Lam defended the forceful moves by police during protests earlier in the week.
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Adding to tensions, the extradition bill has drawn criticism from US and British politicians and human rights groups, prompting Beijing to hit back with warnings against "interference" in its internal affairs.

It is unclear how the local leadership might defuse the crisis, given Beijing's strong support for the extradition bill and its distaste for dissent — and for foreign pressure.

The decision to indefinitely walk away from efforts to drive the bill through the city's legislature by July would have been unthinkable last week, when the law's passage seemed inevitable and Ms Lam remained defiant.

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PHOTO Tens of thousands of Hong Kong protesters flooded the streets to demonstrate against changes to the extradition law that could see people sent from the former British colony to China for trial.
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HONG KONG: Hong Kong braces for another mass rally on Sunday (Jun 16) as public anger seethes following unprecedented clashes between protesters and police over an extradition law, despite a climbdown by the city's embattled leader in suspending the bill.
Organisers are hoping for another mammoth turnout as they vowed to keep pressure on chief executive Carrie Lam, who suspended work on the hugely divisive bill Saturday after days of mounting pressure, saying she had misjudged the public mood.

Critics fear the Beijing-backed law will tangle people up in China's notoriously opaque and politicised courts and damage the city's reputation as a safe business hub.



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Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam speaks during a press conference at the government headquarters in Hong Kong on Jun 15, 2019. (Photo: AFP/Anthony Wallace)

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The international finance hub was rocked by the worst political violence since its 1997 handover to China on Wednesday as tens of thousands of protesters were dispersed by riot police firing tear gas and rubber bullets.
Lam stopped short of committing to permanently scrapping the proposal and the concession was swiftly rejected by protest leaders, who called on her to resign, permanently shelve the bill and apologise for police tactics.

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People pray outside the government headquarters in Hong Kong on the eve of Sunday's mass rally AFP/HECTOR RETAMAL

Jimmy Sham, from the main protest group the Civil Human Rights Front, likened Lam's offer to a "knife" that had been plunged into the city.
"It's almost reached our heart. Now the government said they won't push it, but they also refuse to pull it out," he told reporters.
'KEEP THE HEAT ON'
On Sunday afternoon, protesters are set to march from a park on the main island to the city's parliament - a repeat of a massive rally a week earlier in which organisers said more than a million people turned out.
Lam's decision to ignore that record-breaking turnout and press ahead with tabling the bill for debate in the legislature on Wednesday was the spark that lit the clashes which brought key parts of the city to a standstill.

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Critics fear the Beijing-backed law will tangle people up in China's notoriously opaque and politicised courts AFP/HECTOR RETAMAL

READ: Hong Kong tycoons start moving assets offshore as fears rise over new extradition law

The protest movement has morphed in recent days from one specifically aimed at scrapping the extradition bill, to a wider movement of anger at Lam and Beijing over years of sliding freedoms.
"The pro-democracy group will not stop at this point, they want to build on the momentum against Carrie Lam," political analyst Willy Lam told AFP. "They will keep the heat on and ride the momentum."
Police said they had no choice but to use force to meet violent protesters who besieged their lines outside the city's parliament on Wednesday.
But critics - including legal and rights groups - say officers used the actions of a tiny group of violent protesters as an excuse to unleash a sweeping crackdown on the predominantly young, peaceful protesters.

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Protest leaders have called for police to drop charges against anyone arrested for rioting and other offences linked to Wednesday's clashes AFP/HECTOR RETAMAL

Anger has also been fanned by Lam and senior officers calling the street demonstrators "rioters".
Protest leaders have called for police to drop charges against anyone arrested for rioting and other offences linked to Wednesday's clashes.
Lam has argued that Hong Kong needs to reach an extradition agreement with the mainland, and says safeguards were in place to ensure dissidents or political cases would not be accepted.
Opposition to the bill united an unusually wide cross-section of Hong Kong from influential legal and business bodies, to religious leaders and western nations.
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Sea of black' Hong Kong protesters demand leader step down
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HONG KONG: Hundreds of thousands of people clogged the streets in central Hong Kong on Sunday (Jun 16) dressed in black to demand the city's leader step down, a day after she suspended an extradition bill in a dramatic retreat following the most violent protests in decades.
The massive rally saw some protesters carry white carnation flowers, while others held banners saying, "Do not shoot, we are HongKonger", as they sought to avoid a repeat of the violence that rocked the financial centre on Wednesday when police fired rubber bullets and tear gas.

READ: Leaderless and livid - the youngsters on Hong Kong front lines
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The protesters, including young families as well as the elderly, formed a sea of black along roads, walkways and train stations across Hong Kong's financial centre to vent their frustration and anger at Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam.

Loud cheers rang out when activists called through loud hailers for Lam to step down and "step down" echoed through the streets. Protesters also chanted "pursue the black police", angry at what they say was an overreaction by police that left more than 70 people injured in Wednesday's violent protest.
Beijing-backed Lam on Saturday indefinitely delayed the extradition bill that could send people to mainland China to face trial, expressing "deep sorrow and regret" although she stopped short of apologising.

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Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam speaks during a press conference at the government headquarters in Hong Kong on Jun 15, 2019. (Photo: AFP/Anthony Wallace)

The about-face was one of the most significant political turnarounds by the Hong Kong government since Britain returned the territory to China in 1997, and it threw into question Lam's ability to continue to lead the city.
"Carrie Lam refused to apologise yesterday. It's unacceptable," said 16-year-old Catherine Cheung. "She's a terrible leader who is full of lies ... I think she's only delaying the bill now to trick us into calming down."
Her classmate, Cindy Yip, said: "That's why we're still demanding the bill be scrapped. We don't trust her anymore. She has to quit."


Critics say the planned extradition law could threaten Hong Kong's rule of law and its international reputation as an Asian financial hub. Some Hong Kong tycoons have already started moving personal wealth offshore.
READ: In full - Carrie Lam's speech as Hong Kong's controversial extradition Bill is suspended

Activist investor David Webb, in a newsletter on Sunday, said if Lam was a stock he would recommend shorting her with a target price of zero.
"Call it the Carrie trade. She has irrevocably lost the public's trust," Webb said.
"Her minders in Beijing, while expressing public support for now, have clearly lined her up for the chop by distancing themselves from the proposal in recent days."
READ: Hong Kong tycoons start moving assets offshore as fears rise over new extradition law

China's Communist Party mouthpiece, the People's Daily, said in a commentary on Sunday that central authorities expressed "firm support" for Lam.
POLITICAL CRISIS
The protests have plunged Hong Kong into political crisis, just as months of pro-democracy "Occupy" demonstrations did in 2014, heaping pressure on Lam's administration and her official backers in Beijing.
The turmoil comes at a difficult time for Beijing, which is already grappling with an escalating US trade war, a faltering economy and tensions in the South China Sea.
Chinese censors have been working hard to erase or block news of the Hong Kong protests, wary that any large public rallies could inspire protests in the mainland.
The violent clashes near the heart of the financial centre on Wednesday grabbed global headlines and forced some shops and banks, including HSBC, to shut branches.
Activists on Sunday pasted hundreds of fliers and notes to a wall near the protest site, with some reading, "Stop shooting innocent people", and "Use your brain, violence is insane".
At the start of the march, protesters paused for a minute's silence to remember an activist who died from a fall on Saturday near the site of the recent demonstrations.
READ: Flowers pile up for dead Hong Kong protester

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Protesters hold up placards as they take part in a new rally against a controversial extradition law proposal in Hong Kong on Jun 16, 2019. (Photo: AFP/Dale DE LA REY)


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Protesters attending Sunday's rally against the divisive bill were urged to bring a flower to leave at the site AFP/DALE DE LA REY

In the self-ruled island of Taiwan, which China claims as its own, about 5,000 people rallied outside the parliament building in Taipei with banners saying, "No China extradition law" and "Taiwan supports Hong Kong".
Some of the protesters in Hong Kong also waved Taiwan flags.
"EXTENSIVE MEDDLING"
The city's independent legal system was guaranteed under laws governing Hong Kong's return from British to Chinese rule 22 years ago, and is seen by business and diplomatic communities as its strong remaining asset amid encroachments from Beijing.
Hong Kong has been governed under a "one country, two systems" formula since its return to Beijing, allowing freedoms not enjoyed on mainland China but not a fully democratic vote.
Many accuse Beijing of extensive meddling since then, including obstruction of democratic reforms, interference with elections and of being behind the disappearance of five Hong Kong-based booksellers, starting in 2015, who specialised in works critical of Chinese leaders.
Some opponents of the extradition bill said a suspension was not enough and want it scrapped and Lam to go.
"If she refuses to scrap this controversial bill altogether, it would mean we wouldn't retreat. She stays on, we stay on," said pro-democracy lawmaker Claudia Mo.
Asked repeatedly on Saturday if she would step down, Lam avoided answering directly and appealed to the public to "give us another chance." Lam said she had been a civil servant for decades and still had work she wanted to do.
Lam's reversal was hailed by business groups including the American Chamber of Commerce, which had spoken out strongly against the bill, and overseas governments.
The UK Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt said on Twitter: "Well done HK Government for heeding concerns of the brave citizens who have stood up for their human rights".

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A woman waves a British flag as protesters gather to take part in a new rally against a controversial extradition law proposal in Hong Kong on Jun 16, 2019. (Photo: AFP/HECTOR RETAMAL)

China's top newspaper on Sunday condemned "anti-China lackeys" of foreign forces in Hong Kong.
"Certain people in Hong Kong have been relying on foreigners or relying on young people to build themselves up, serving as the pawns and lackeys of foreign anti-China forces," the ruling People's Daily said in a commentary.
"This is resolutely opposed by the whole of the Chinese people including the vast majority of Hong Kong compatriots."
The Hong Kong protests have been the largest in the city since crowds came out against the bloody suppression of pro-democracy demonstrations centred around Beijing's Tiananmen Square on Jun 4, 1989.
Lam had said the extradition law was necessary to prevent criminals using Hong Kong as a place to hide and that human rights would be protected by the city's court which would decide on the extraditions on a case-by-case basis.
Critics, including leading lawyers and rights groups, note China's justice system is controlled by the Communist Party, and say it is marked by torture and forced confessions, arbitrary detention and poor access to lawyers.
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Flowers pile up for dead Hong Kong protester
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The man had been holding an hours-long protest on the roof of the Pacific Place shopping mall AFP/Anthony WALLACE
16 Jun 2019 04:16PM (Updated: 16 Jun 2019 04:47PM)
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HONG KONG: Bouquets of white flowers, written tributes and origami cranes piled up Sunday (Jun 16) outside a high-end Hong Kong shopping mall, where a young man plunged to his death protesting against a controversial extradition bill.
The man had hung a banner off the roof of Pacific Place, which overlooks the site of violent clashes this week between police and demonstrators angry at a proposed law that would allow people to be sent to mainland China.

A video circulating on social media shows the man falling from rooftop scaffolding as firefighters tried to grab him on Saturday evening.

READ: Tens of thousands dressed in black rally to demand Hong Kong leader step down
They clutch at his clothes and he slips through their hands, missing a jump raft that had been inflated on the ground below.

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Protesters attending Sunday's rally against the divisive bill were urged to bring a flower to leave at the site AFP/DALE DE LA REY


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He had unfurled a banner saying: "Entirely withdraw China extradition bill. We were not rioting. Release students and the injured."
Thousands of mourners, mostly young people dressed in black, joined enormous queues along busy roads to leave tributes and pay their respects, some crying and bowing as they offered sticks of incense.
Next to a large pile of white flowers were hundreds of hand-written messages, lines of gifts laid out in offering including a bottle of single malt whiskey, and a white hard hat with the word "hero" written across it.
"The flowers are white for purity and so we can show our respect for the dead. When I get there, I will offer these and say a prayer for him," said 18-year-old Travis.
"He walked a bloody road, I admire his energy, I admire his bravery," said a man called Yung, aged 26.
READ: Leaderless and livid: The youngsters on Hong Kong front lines
Signs reading "Help Hong Kong. No extradition to China. RIP" have been posted at the site.
Protesters attending Sunday's rally against the divisive bill were urged to bring a flower to leave as the march passes the site, and student groups announced plans for a candlelit vigil in the evening.

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Mourners place flowers and offer prayers at the site where a protester died falling from the top of a building in central Hong Kong AFP/Anthony WALLACE

"I think it will give us more energy to come on the streets today," said another mourner standing in long queues on the busy road, giving his name as Lau.
"Now it's no longer as simple as someone being hurt or bleeding, it?s someone who lost their life because of this resistance," said a man who gave his name as Hubert.
"No one wanted to see this happen. I'm sure (Hong Kong chief executive) Carrie Lam didn't want to see this happen, but as Hong Kong's highest official she should not avoid people's appeals."
The proposed extradition bill - and the fear that it threatens Hong Kong's way of life, freedom of speech and rule of law - has provoked some of the worst politically-motivated violence in the city for decades, with nearly 80 protesters and police hurt and eleven people arrested.

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Flowers and tributes were being left to the man who fell from a rooftop to his death late on Saturday AFP/Anthony WALLACE

Many of those queuing up to pay tribute said they were going on to join the planned rally through the city to show their opposition to the bill. Organisers said more than one million people turned out to last week's event.
Police said the dead man, surnamed Leung, was 35 years old.
They said they are treating the incident as suicide, adding that a note was found at the scene.
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In full: Carrie Lam's speech as Hong Kong's controversial extradition Bill is suspended
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Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam speaks during a press conference at the government headquarters in Hong Kong on Jun 15, 2019. (Photo: AFP/Anthony Wallace)
15 Jun 2019 08:00PM (Updated: 15 Jun 2019 08:11PM)
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HONG KONG: Hong Kong's chief executive Carrie Lam said on Saturday (Jun 15) the government will suspend the extradition Bill after days of protests in the city.
About a million people flooded the streets of Hong Kong in opposition of the Bill, which was supposed to be debated on Wednesday. It was postponed indefinitely on Friday, after the protests became violent.

Ahead of a planned protest on Sunday, the chief executive told reporters the government will adopt "an open mind" when it comes to the Bill.

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Here is what she said in full:
Fellow citizens and members of the media,
In February last year, a murder case in Taiwan shocked and saddened many Hong Kong people. A young Hong Kong lady was killed, and the suspect fled back to Hong Kong.

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The case caused deep sorrow to the victim’s parents, while at the same time revealed a clear loophole in our regime with respect to mutual legal assistance in criminal matters and the surrender of fugitive offenders.
The deficiencies in our regime include, first, with the "geographical restriction" in the current law, it is not possible to transfer a suspect to Taiwan or our neighbouring Mainland and Macao.
Secondly, there is no workable arrangement for the surrender of fugitive offenders with some 170 jurisdictions which have not entered into a long-term agreement with Hong Kong.
READ: Beijing supports Hong Kong's move to delay extradition Bill, condemns violent acts


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Hong Kong stocks are sharply down on uncertainty as tens of thousands of people block key roads in protest over government plans for a controversial extradition law. (Photo: AFP/Anthony Wallace)

As a responsible government, I feel obliged to find a way to deal with the Taiwan murder case so that justice can be done for the deceased, her parents and society, while at the same time address the deficiencies in our system so that Hong Kong will not become a place for criminals to evade legal responsibility.
These are the two original purposes of the government in putting forward the legislative proposal to amend the Fugitive Offenders Ordinance and the Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Ordinance.
After careful examination of the relevant laws and the practices of other jurisdictions, the legislative amendment exercise started in Hong Kong in February this year.
Our proposal is based on the existing legislation, with the relevant human rights safeguards and procedural safeguards, including the role of the court and the fair and impartial judicial system of Hong Kong, being fully maintained.
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Relevant colleagues have been discussing with various sectors of the community in a rational manner and listening to their views on our legislative proposal.
As the suspect in the Taiwan case, who has been in jail on other charges, may be released soon, we have been trying to get the bill passed within the current legislative year, that is, before the Legislative Council summer recess in July this year.
As a matter of fact, after listening to the views of society, we have introduced amendments to our proposal on two occasions.
The first occasion was before the introduction of the Bill, when we took out nine categories of offences from the list of offences subject to surrender and lifted the threshold for punishment of the offences from imprisonment for more than one year to more than three years.

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Wednesday's clashes were the worst political violence in Hong Kong since its 1997 handover to China. (Photo: AFP/ISAAC LAWRENCE)

The second occasion was after the introduction of the bill in the Legislative Council, when we increased the threshold from more than three years to not less than seven years, as well as introduced a number of additional human rights safeguards that are in line with international standards.
The amendments were made to ease the concerns of society, while securing more support for the bill.
My relevant colleagues and I have made our best efforts. But I have to admit that our explanation and communication work has not been sufficient or effective.
Although many people agreed with our two original purposes, there are still supporting views and opposing ones on the bill, and their stances are very often polarised.
Furthermore, many members of the public still have concerns and doubts about the bill. Some find it difficult to understand why the urgency, and are unhappy with the process of the amendments.
We have made many attempts to narrow differences and eliminate doubts.
READ: Hong Kong protests: How violence erupted in the city over a polarising extradition Bill

PROTESTS
In the last week, tens of thousands of people took part in protests and gatherings. Serious conflicts broke out in the early hours on Monday after the public procession last Sunday and during the protest in the Admiralty area on Wednesday, resulting in a number of police officers, media workers and other members of the public being injured.


I am saddened by this, as are other citizens. As a responsible government, we have to maintain law and order on the one hand, and evaluate the situation for the greatest interest of Hong Kong, including restoring calmness in society as soon as possible and avoiding any more injuries to law enforcement officers and citizens.
I am grateful for the views of many pro-establishment legislators and leaders of various community sectors conveyed to me over the last few days either openly or in private, that we should pause and think instead of resuming the Second Reading debate on the bill at the Legislative Council as scheduled.
This would prevent dealing a further blow to society. In fact, in consideration of the overt and clear expression by Taiwan repeatedly that it would not accede to the suggested arrangement of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Government in the transfer of the concerned suspect, the original urgency to pass the bill in this legislative year is perhaps no longer there.
BILL SUSPENDED
After repeated internal deliberations over the last two days, I now announce that the Government has decided to suspend the legislative amendment exercise, restart our communication with all sectors of society, do more explanation work and listen to different views of society.
I want to stress that the Government is adopting an open mind to heed comprehensively different views in society towards the bill.

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Police fire tear gas during a protest against Hong Kong's controversial extradition law proposal. (Photo: AFP)

The Secretary for Security will send a letter to the Legislative Council President to withdraw the notice of resumption of the Second Reading debate on the bill.
In other words, the Council will halt its work in relation to the bill until our work in communication, explanation and listening to opinions is completed.
We have no intention to set a deadline for this work and promise to report to and consult members of the Legislative Council Panel on Security before we decide on the next step forward.
I would like to thank all the pro-establishment legislators and members of the public for their support all along for our legislative exercise, as well as the people and organisations that have expressed their views in a peaceful and rational manner, even if they do not support the bill.
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As a free, open and pluralistic society, Hong Kong needs such a spirit of mutual respect and harmony in diversity.
Lastly, as the Chief Executive of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, I want to stress that the original purposes of the exercise stem from (me) and my team’s passion for Hong Kong and our empathy for Hong Kong people.
I feel deep sorrow and regret that the deficiencies in our work and various other factors have stirred up substantial controversies and dispute in society following the relatively calm periods of the past two years, disappointing many people.
We will adopt the most sincere and humble attitude to accept criticisms and make improvements so that we can continue to connect with the people of Hong Kong.
Thank you very much.
Source: CNA/mi
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Beijing supports Hong Kong's move to delay extradition Bill, condemns violent acts
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A protester throws a tear gas canister during a demonstration against a proposed extradition bill in Hong Kong. (REUTERS/Tyrone Siu)
15 Jun 2019 06:03PM (Updated: 15 Jun 2019 06:46PM)
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HONG KONG: The central government in Beijing has expressed its "support, respect and understanding" for Hong Kong's decision to suspend an extradition Bill that would allow people to be sent to mainland China to face trial, China's official Xinhua news agency reported on Saturday (Jun 15).
Hong Kong's embattled leader Carrie Lam earlier suspended the proposed law, which sparked street protests across the city.

The central government also condemned violent acts in Hong Kong and supported the former British colony's police, Xinhua said.

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In her speech on Saturday afternoon, the chief executive said: "The government has decided to suspend the legislative amendment exercise, restart our communication with all sectors of society, do more ... work and listen to different views of society.

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"We have no intention to set a deadline for this work and promise to report to and consult members of the legislative council panel on security before we decide on the next step forward."
NO RIGHT TO INTERFERE
China's foreign ministry said on Saturday Hong Kong matters were a Chinese internal affair and no country, organisation or individual has a right to interfere.
Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said the ministry had taken note of Lam's announcement. He said China's determination to safeguard the country's sovereignty and security, and Hong Kong's prosperity and stability, was unshakable.
The "one country, two systems" formula under which Hong Kong has been governed by China since 1997 has been "earnestly" put into effect, and the rights and freedoms of Hong Kong people fully guaranteed, Geng Shuang said in a statement posted on the ministry's website.
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Leaderless and livid: The youngsters on Hong Kong front lines
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For Andrew, his fear of arrest or a hit to future job prospects is eclipsed by what the extradition law would mean for Hong Kongers AFP/Anthony WALLACE
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HONG KONG: Young Hong Kongers who marshalled the fight against a police force that was armed with tear gas and rubber bullets have spoken of how they were pushed into embracing more confrontational tactics by the failure of years of peaceful protests.
In a series of interviews with AFP, the young men and women - most of them university students on leafy campuses - said they had become disillusioned with marches and civil disobedience failing to sway the city's largely unelected pro-Beijing leadership.

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And with key leaders of earlier pro-democracy movements now languishing in jail, they have switched to small, leaderless cells in a bid to evade capture.
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READ: In full: Carrie Lam's speech as Hong Kong's controversial extradition Bill is suspended
Hong Kong witnessed unprecedented scenes on Wednesday as youngsters clashed with riot police outside parliament to stop lawmakers debating a hugely unpopular bill that would allow extraditions to the Chinese mainland.

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One of those on the front lines, 18-year-old student Sharon, said the moment she felt peaceful rallies no longer worked came three days earlier.

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With key leaders of earlier pro-democracy movements now languishing in jail, young Hong Kongers have switched to small, leaderless cells in a bid to evade capture AFP/Anthony WALLACE

That day a record crowd - organisers say more than a million - marched peacefully through the streets of the international finance hub calling for the bill to be scrapped.
But shortly before midnight, Sharon's phone lit up with a statement from the government saying the bill would go ahead.
"I suddenly had this realisation that even though one million people marched, there wouldn't be an impact," she said, asking - like the other students - not to be identified.
"This time people realised peaceful protests don't really work," she added.
For people like Sharon, it was time to switch tactics in a city where democracy activists have held huge annual marches since 2003 but made limited progress.

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The protesters brought equipment like goggles, gloves and cling film -- to protect their arms from tear gas burns -- and sanitary pads to staunch any bleeding AFP/Anthony WALLACE

GOGGLES AND SANITARY PADS
Andrew, 22, said he and a group of seven friends had gone to Wednesday's protests prepared for police tear gas and pepper spray.
They brought equipment like goggles, gloves and cling film - to protect their arms from tear gas burns - and sanitary pads to staunch any bleeding.
But he described their actions as organic and spontaneous, with small groups of trusted friends acting together within a larger mass, without taking directions from any centralised leadership.
"No one is going to announce that I must use force or stand on the front line," he said.
He said the decision to charge police and try to reach parliament happened without anyone making any order.

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One young protester, Andrew, 22, described their actions as organic and spontaneous, with small groups of trusted friends acting together within a larger mass AFP/ISAAC LAWRENCE

"It might not be up to you to choose," he explained as he described the crowd dynamic that day.
"It could be because of the passion of the crowds or what police officers have done (to make you very angry)."
Those tactics contrast with 2014 when similar crowds of young people took over key intersections in Hong Kong for more than two months calling for the right to elect the city's leader.
Apart from occasional clashes with police, the so-called "Umbrella Movement" protests were peaceful and orderly and had key leaders.
But it failed to win any concessions and many of the movement's figures - like student leader Joshua Wong and academic Benny Tai - are currently in jail.
"We choose this option because what we've done so far isn't enough to make the government feel the people's anger and discontent towards this bill. That's why we are choosing to charge," Andrew said, admitting it would be easier to coordinate if they had leaders but that few would want to take that risk.

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In a series of interviews with AFP, the young men and women, most of them university students, said they had become disillusioned with marches and civil disobedience failing to sway the city's largely unelected pro-Beijing leadership AFP/Anthony WALLACE

POLICE ON DEFENCE
Police have since labelled the protest a riot with a senior superintendent usually involved in organised crime investigations calling those involved "organised, premeditated, prepared, radical and violent people".
The city's police chief has defended his officers, saying potentially deadly projectiles like bricks and metal poles were being thrown.
He has received the backing of the city's pro-Beijing leader Carrie Lam, who also called demonstrators rioters and refused to apologise for the clearances, even as she suspended the bill on Saturday saying she had misjudged the public mood.
In recent days police and Lam have faced a growing backlash over accusations officers used excessive force against the crowds.
Rights activists and influential legal groups have called the response disproportionate, videos of the most violent police beatings have gone viral and parents have rallied holding signs reading: "Don't shoot our kids."

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Hong Kong witnessed unprecedented scenes on Wednesday as youngsters fought riot police outside parliament to stop lawmakers debating a hugely unpopular bill that would allow extraditions to the Chinese mainland AFP/Anthony WALLACE

Chris, a protester who went into battle on Wednesday with the phone number of a lawyer written on his stomach in case of arrest, said he believes there has been a sea-change among Hong Kong's often conservative public.
"Those who had been a bit squeamish or resistant to more radical acts in Hong Kong society are starting to slowly accept them," he said.
Andrew, who said he was beaten by police batons, agreed.
"People wearing suits and professional types, they would come over to the supply stations set up further back and ask what we needed," he recalled.
He believes peaceful and forceful tactics can co-exist, recalling how Christians held hours-long hymn sessions and security guards in upscale malls helped protesters shelter from the tear gas.
'FEARED PAIN, NOT ARREST'
The possibility of jail and arrest has weighed on the protesters as they study for degrees.
But Leung, a student who said she'd been to all previous protests in recent years, said she felt her generation had "nothing to lose" at this point.
"I'd cast my worries aside. At the scene, I feared pain more than arrest," she recalled.
For Andrew, his fear of arrest or a hit to future job prospects is eclipsed by what the extradition law would mean for Hong Kongers.
"Even if I chose comfort and became a banker, when this law is passed, I'd still be under threat," he said. "If you think about it realistically, you're just waiting to be attacked."
Source: AFP
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Hong Kong protesters demand Chief Executive Carrie Lam steps down over extradition bill
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PHOTO: Carrie Lam claims the extradition law was necessary to prevent criminals hiding in Hong Kong. (ABC: Nick Dole)
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Thousands of people dressed in black are taking to the streets in Hong Kong to demand the city's embattled leader steps down, a day after she suspended an extradition bill in a dramatic retreat following the most violent protests in decades.

Protest organisers are hoping more than a million people turn up for today's rally, a similar number they estimated for a demonstration against the proposed extradition bill last Sunday.

Police put that count at 240,000.

PHOTO: Carrie Lam faces the fight of her political life. (AP: Kin Cheung)


Activists today set up gazebos as protesters, some carrying flowers, started to gather in sweltering summer heat to march from Victoria Park to Hong Kong's central government offices.

Beijing-backed Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam on Saturday indefinitely delayed the extradition bill that could send people to mainland China to face trial, expressing "deep sorrow and regret".

The about-face was one of the most significant political turnarounds by the Hong Kong government since Britain returned the territory to China in 1997, and it threw into question Ms Lam's ability to continue to lead the city.

PHOTO: Young and old braved the Hong Kong summer heat to protest the extradition law yet again. (ABC: Nick Dole)


Activist investor David Webb, in a newsletter on Sunday, said if Ms Lam was a stock he would recommend shorting her with a target price of zero.

"Call it the Carrie trade. She has irrevocably lost the public's trust," Mr Webb said.​

"Her minders in Beijing, while expressing public support for now, have clearly lined her up for the chop by distancing themselves from the proposal in recent days."

PHOTO: More protests have been promised, despite the Government suspending the passage of its controversial extradition bill. (ABC News: Nick Dole)


Violent clashes on Wednesday, when police fired rubber bullets and tear gas at protesters near the heart of the financial centre, grabbed global headlines and forced some banks to shut branches.

Some Hong Kong tycoons have started moving personal wealth offshore over concerns about the proposed extradition law, which critics warn could erode the city's international status.

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The city's independent legal system was guaranteed under laws governing Hong Kong's return from British to Chinese rule 22 years ago, and is seen by business and diplomatic communities as its strong remaining asset amid encroachments from Beijing.

Hong Kong has been governed under a "one country, two systems" formula since its return to Beijing, allowing freedoms not enjoyed on mainland China but not a fully democratic vote.

Many accuse Beijing of extensive meddling since then, including obstruction of democratic reforms, interference with elections and of being behind the disappearance of five Hong Kong-based booksellers, starting in 2015, who specialised in works critical of Chinese leaders.

Some opponents of the extradition bill said a suspension was not enough, arguing it should be scrapped and Ms Lam should go.

"If she refuses to scrap this controversial bill altogether, it would mean we wouldn't retreat. She stays on, we stay on," said pro-democracy politician Claudia Mo.​

Asked repeatedly on Saturday if she would step down, Ms Lam avoided answering directly and appealed to the public to "give us another chance".

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Ms Lam said she had been a civil servant for decades and still had work she wanted to do.

She added she felt "deep sorrow and regret that the deficiencies in our work and various other factors have stirred up substantial controversies and disputes in society".

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Meanwhile, Ms Lam's reversal on the bill was hailed by business groups and overseas governments.

The UK Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt said on Twitter: "Well done HK Government for heeding concerns of the brave citizens who have stood up for their human rights."

"AmCham is relieved by the government decision to suspend the extradition bill and that it listened to the Hong Kong people and international business community," Tara Joseph, president of the American Chamber of Commerce in Hong Kong, said.

PHOTO: The Hong Kong protests have been the largest since rallies after the Tiananmen Square massacre. (ABC: Nick Dole)


Fear of forced confessions, arbitrary detention
China's top newspaper on Sunday condemned "anti-China lackeys" of foreign forces in Hong Kong.

"Certain people in Hong Kong have been relying on foreigners or relying on young people to build themselves up, serving as the pawns and lackeys of foreign anti-China forces," the ruling Communist Party's official People's Daily said in a commentary.

PHOTO: A man pays his respects at the site where a man fell to his death while hanging a protest banner in Hong Kong. (AP: Vincent Yu)

"This is resolutely opposed by the whole of the Chinese people including the vast majority of Hong Kong compatriots."​

The Hong Kong protests have been the largest in the city since crowds came out against the bloody suppression of pro-democracy demonstrations centred around Beijing's Tiananmen Square on June 4, 1989.

PHOTO: Organisers hope more than a million people will join today's demonstration. (Reuters: Tyrone Siu)


Officials said 72 people were admitted to hospitals during Wednesday protest, while a man died on Saturday after plunging from construction scaffolding where he unfurled a banner denouncing Hong Kong's extradition bill, local media reported.

Ms Lam had said the extradition law was necessary to prevent criminals using Hong Kong as a place to hide and that human rights would be protected by the city's court which would decide on the extraditions on a case-by-case basis.

Critics, including leading lawyers and rights groups, note China's justice system is controlled by the Communist Party, and say it is marked by torture and forced confessions, arbitrary detention and poor access to lawyers.

PHOTO: Opponents of the extradition bill say suspension is not enough and want it scrapped. (AP: Kin Cheung)


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