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Will China let Belt and Road die quietly?
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6.5% growth you call crisis? Really these journalists need a head check.
6.5% growth you call crisis? Really these journalists need a head check.
hahah you sure it is 6.5%?
That a serious alligator. You got to back it up!
That a serious alligator. You got to back it up!
For your reading pleasure sir
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...exposes-chinas-massive-gdp-growth-distortions
An unreliable source. Fail your essay.
Ah tiong land is doing well.
under-sextimate? like going underskirt?Don't estimate the resolve and tenacity of the Chinese, especially Hokkiens. Look no further than this forum. There's a Hokkien aunty that has nothing in grey between her ears BUT every bit of steel in her.
More 'Yi Dai Yi Lu' propaganda, this one released earlier this month.
Looks like some flash mob in a shopping mall in Sri Lanka.
Do you think if the KTV chickens do that in Singapore, is it considered illegal assembly?
An unreliable source. Fail your essay.
yup, don't read too much
http://bbs.creaders.net/politics/bbsviewer.php?trd_id=1305831
郭文贵你就是个搅屎棍，哪里有你哪里乱送交者: 川崎 2018年02月08日00:42:52 于 [天下论坛] 发送悄悄话
大骗子郭文贵把“民运”搅得稀巴烂（图）
编者按：民运28年，遭遇生死劫。曾经，海内外尽管许多人对民运不以为然，认为成不了什么事，也有一些人对民运不同程度地持支持态度，并对其未来抱有期待。但是，郭文贵来了，一个无赖，却让民运的形象轰然崩塌，内部四分五裂，各种丑陋和不堪无处藏身。整个华人社会开始对民运失去信心。连一个郭文贵都对付不了，还想与一个日渐强大的国家为敌？庆父不死，鲁难未已。28年民运，就这样任由郭文贵羞辱？郭文贵之后，还有民运吗？民运的出路在哪里？
大骗子郭文贵把“民运”搅得稀巴烂
季宗伯
2017年海外华人网络世界最重大的事件，无疑当属郭文贵事件。逃亡美国富商郭文贵可谓大起大落，经历了过山车式的迅速蹿红和没落，演绎了一场由“人气”爆棚走向“破灭”的闹剧。
郭文贵初到美国，自觉找不到靠山，先是跟邪教法轮功勾勾搭搭，搞出一个配合法轮功“活摘”谣言的演出，随后又向民运人士频送秋波，给予资金支持，寻找站台者和合作伙伴，先后吹捧唐柏桥、西诺、何频等等，之后又纷纷反目。而民运内部，则被郭文贵冲得七零八落，骂得体无完肤。
很多人感叹没有想到，但我认为，这是必然。为什么？
先从郭文贵的角度谈。郭骗子从没有宽容过任何敢于挑战他的人，无论之前有多么支持。从当初博讯对他的负面报道开始，老郭打击对手就从未手软过。民运人士对郭文贵的批评、提醒、规劝，换来的自然是这个流氓无赖的翻脸无情和疯狂报复。
再从民运人士的角度看，他们与郭文贵，本来就是两路人。
我一直有一种看法，89一代的民运人是一场悲剧。他们一生为政治而活，却一生根本没有接触到真正的政治。八十年代的大学生，说是天之骄子一点不为过。那一代大学生留在国内的，现在无论是在政界、学界、商界，都是翘楚。包括曾在民运圈急流勇退者，如李录，几近成为巴菲特的接班人。
但对于徘徊在民运圈的流亡者来说，他人生的辉煌在28年前到达顶点，然后就只剩一路下滑了。离国多年与国内社会渐行渐远，上不达天庭，下不接地气。在美国，除了少数像杨建利这样打通美国上层社会的人，大部分人是物质生活贫瘠，精神世界悲苦，内部山头林立互相攻讦。
抛开政治正确与否，一个事实是，无论在中国还是美国，没有进入上层社会的人，无论他多么热衷于政治，也和路边下棋大爷或是出租车司机一样，并不具有实质上的政治影响力（在美国，他们可能连本地议员都不认识）。网络下，这群人在美国社会的存在感，比法轮功还要弱得多。
一群曾经的精英，却生活在了社会边缘，这就是一场悲剧。但他们一直期待一个机会能施展自己的满腹经纶——不出十年，他们就将白发苍苍，退出历史舞台。对于一些所谓坚持“中国民主”策略的人来讲，他们也想抓住一切机会，证明自己的存在。
这时候，郭文贵横空出世，但他并不是这群人应该等的人。
郭文贵没读过书。对于民运人而言，最理想的状态是他们以诸葛亮一类军师甚至帝师身份出现，而郭文贵是言听计从的刘备，或是能打能拼的猛张飞。郭文贵有料，民运人出谋划策。一群清华北大哥大哈佛的博士，指挥一个没读过书有勇无谋的莽汉，这是最理想的搭配。
但这不是瞎扯淡么？郭文贵除了没读过书外，更是从官场商场江湖多年混出来的，他凭什么被这群活在社会边缘，养活自己都困难的人指挥？好为人师，民运犯了大忌。而对于民运人，暮年将近，怎么可能甘于充当绿叶只是摇旗呐喊？
对于郭文贵，他做的一切，是任何一个商人或者政客都会做的事情，就像特朗普入主白宫后，开除了班农，他并不需要一个自以为聪明，对自己指手画脚的军师。郭文贵也不会容忍任何动摇自己布局的异议，所以有了十万美元征集其谎言线索这样的事情——重点在于威慑，不允许出下一个夏业良、唐柏桥、李洪宽。他只需要一群像郭宝胜、赵岩这样替他敲锣打鼓的人即可。
然而一个让人难以接受的事实是，爆料不可能引发任何民运人士想象中的街头革命。爆料只是郭文贵为了达到“保命保钱报仇”的一个套路。
而问题更核心的地方却在于，郭文贵根本没“料”。
当前，固然有郭宝胜这样为了“名”（借郭文贵炒作自己）“利”（收了郭文贵N万美元）的无耻之徒为郭文贵奔走呼号，但还是有部分人看清了郭文贵的真面目，耻与为伍。
博讯网的张杰，明确在博讯热点中表示自己反郭文贵。他反对的第一个理由是，“至今为止，郭文贵爆的料几乎没有能让我认可的。姜维平先生一直认为一半真一半假，而我认为基本都是不真实的。”
第二个理由更加充分，“第二，郭文贵对自己的过去没有忏悔。我曾在国有银行工作了23年，也在国内做过多年律师，我见到太多像郭文贵这样的所谓成功商人，我知道他们的原罪，所以我不相信郭文贵的财富是纯洁的。随着曲龙的获释，郭文贵联手前国安部副部长马建、前河北政法委书记张越和中纪委孟会青强占郑介甫和谢建升天津华泰股份公司股份的事实已经无可争议。而对此事件的客观报道也就是郭文贵污蔑博讯的主要缘由。”非常明确的表明了自己的态度，也指出了郭文贵的肮脏之处。
滕彪也专门撰文，认为“郭文贵迄今为止的各种爆料，真实成分十分有限，绝大多数无法证实或已被证伪，成为笑料。”刘刚、西诺在自己的推文里多次表示自己举报郭文贵在twitter和youtube侵犯隐私，侮辱他人，支持三大网络社交平台对郭文贵禁言。甚至于韦石、西诺将郭文贵起诉到了曼哈顿高级法院。
但民运人始终高估了自己，就像他们始终过高地估计了自己的政治影响力一般。像李洪宽挂在嘴边的三千县委书记一样，每个人心中都有自己的一套治国方案——这些千奇百怪的治国方案，你在北京任何一个出租司机或是下棋大爷口中也能听到。
这世上最可悲的事情是，你以为自己捡了个夜明珠，擦了擦才发现是个驴粪蛋。更可气的是，还沾了一手臭。
我尊重民运人，但他们28年前的选择，历史已证明蠢了一次，28年后，他们对郭文贵从起初的欣喜若狂到现在的束手无策，又蠢了第二次。
郭文贵这个“搅屎棍”，不但扰乱了民运的心智，还成功地把他们彻底挤下了历史的舞台——这简直比消灭了民运还残忍。
Guo Wengui, you are a messenger, where is there you mess?
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The big liar Guo Wengui smashed the "democracy movement" (Figure)
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Editor's note: In the 28 years of the democratic movement, it was robbed of life and death. At one time, although many people at home and abroad did not take it seriously, they thought that nothing could be done. Some people also supported the democratic movement to varying degrees and had expectations for their future. However, Guo Wengui came, a rogue, but the image of the democracy movement collapsed, the interior was torn apart, all kinds of ugliness and unbearable hiding. The entire Chinese community began to lose confidence in the democracy movement. Even a Guo Wengui can't cope, and want to be an enemy of a growing country? Qing father is not dead, Lu is not already. 28 years of the democracy movement, so let Guo Wengui humiliate? After Guo Wengui, is there still a democracy movement? Where is the way out for the democracy movement?
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The big liar Guo Wengui smashed the "democracy movement"
Ji Zongbo
The most significant event in the overseas Chinese network in 2017 is undoubtedly the event of Guo Wengui. Guo Wengui, a wealthy American businessman who fled, can be described as a big ups and downs. He experienced a roller coaster-style rapid blush and decline, and played a farce from "popularity" to "disintegration."
When Guo Wengui first arrived in the United States, he could not find a backing. He first cooperated with the cult Falun Gong and made a performance in conjunction with Falun Gong’s "live picking" rumors. Later, he sent the autumn wave to the pro-democracy people, gave financial support, and sought the platform and cooperation. Partners, have touted Tang Baiqiao, Sino, He frequency, etc., and then turned against each other. Inside the democracy movement, Guo Wengui was rushed to death, and he was so devastated.
Many people lament that they did not think, but I think this is inevitable. why?
Let's talk about it from Guo Wengui's point of view. Guo Lizi has never been tolerant of anyone who dares to challenge him, no matter how supportive he is before. From the beginning of the negative report of Bo Xun to him, Lao Guo has never beaten his opponent. The criticism, reminder, and persuasion of the people of the democracy movement against Guo Wengui are naturally the ruthless and ruthless revenge of this rogue rogue.
From the perspective of the people of democracy, they and Guo Wengui, originally two people.
I have always had a view that the 89th generation of the democracy activists is a tragedy. They lived for politics in their lives, but they never touched real politics at all. It is no exaggeration for college students in the 1980s to say that they are the pride of the sky. The generation of college students stayed in the country, and now they are leaders in politics, academics, and business. Including those who had been rushing in the democratic movement, such as Li Lu, almost became the successor of Buffett.
But for the exiles in the democracy movement, the glory of his life reached its peak 28 years ago, and then only the way down. After years of leaving the country and the domestic society gradually drifting away, not up to heaven, not under the ground. In the United States, except for a few people like Yang Jianli who have opened up the upper echelons of the United States, most of them are poor in material life and sorrowful in the spiritual world.
Putting aside political correctness, the fact is that no one in China or the United States, who has entered the upper class, no matter how passionate he is, is not the same as the roadside chess master or taxi driver. Political influence (in the US, they may not even know local councillors). Under the network, the presence of this group of people in American society is much weaker than Falun Gong.
A group of former elites, but living on the edge of society, is a tragedy. But they have always been looking forward to an opportunity to display their full-fledged economy - within a decade, they will be white-haired and withdraw from the historical arena. For those who insist on the "Chinese democracy" strategy, they also want to seize every opportunity to prove their existence.
At this time, Guo Wengui was born, but he is not the person that this group should wait for.
Guo Wengui has not read the book. For the democracy activists, the most ideal state is that they appear as Zhuge Liang, a military division or even an emperor, and Guo Wengui is a Liu Bei, who can listen to it, or a fierce Zhang Fei who can fight. Guo Wengui has the expectation that the democracy movements will make suggestions. A group of doctors from Harvard University of Harvard University in Tsinghua University, commanding a brave man who has never read a book, is the most ideal match.
But isn't that awkward? In addition to not reading books, Guo Wengui has been mixed out from the official malls for many years. Why is he being led by this group of people who live on the edge of society and support themselves? Good for the teacher, the democracy movement made a big taboo. For the democracy activists, the next year is approaching. How can you be willing to act as a green leaf and just shake the flag?
For Guo Wengui, everything he does is what any businessman or politician will do. Just like Trump's entry into the White House and the expulsion of Bannon, he does not need a self-righteous and savvy military sergeant. Guo Wengui will not tolerate any objections that shake his own layout, so he has 100,000 dollars to collect such lies and lies. The focus is on deterrence, and Xia Yeliang, Tang Baiqiao, and Li Hongkuan are not allowed. He only needs a group of people like Guo Baosheng and Zhao Yan who beat and beat him.
However, an unacceptable fact is that it is impossible to trigger the street revolution imagined by any democracy activist. The breaking of the news is only a routine for Guo Wengui to achieve "reservation of life and revenge."
The more important part of the problem is that Guo Wengui did not "material" at all.
At present, there are Guo Baosheng's shameless people who are "famous" (by Guo Wengui and speculating himself) "profit" (received Guo Wengui N000 US dollars) for Guo Wengui, but some people have seen Guo Wengui's true face, shame and fortune. .
Zhang Jie of Boxun.com clearly stated that he was against Guo Wengui in the hot spot of Boxun. The first reason he objected was: "So far, Guo Wengui's explosive materials have hardly made me recognize. Mr. Jiang Weiping has always believed that half of the truth is half-false, and I think it is basically untrue."
The second reason is more full. "Second, Guo Wengui has no regrets about his past. I have worked in state-owned banks for 23 years and have been working as lawyers for many years in China. I have seen so many successful businessmen like Guo Wengui. I know their original sin, so I don't believe that Guo Wengui's wealth is pure. With the release of Qu Long, Guo Wengui joined forces with former National Security Minister Ma Jian, former Hebei Political and Legal Committee Secretary Zhang Yue and the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection Meng Huiqing to occupy Zheng Jieyu and The fact that Xie Jiansheng's shares in Tianjin Huatai Co., Ltd. is indisputable. The objective report on this incident is the main reason why Guo Wengui slandered Boss. "It is very clear that his attitude is also pointed out that Guo Wengui's dirty place.
Teng Biao also wrote a special article, saying that "Guo Wengui's various explosive materials to date have very limited real ingredients, and most of them cannot be confirmed or have been falsified, becoming a joke." Liu Gang and Sino have repeatedly stated themselves in their tweets. Reporting Guo Wengui invaded privacy on Twitter and youtube, insulted others, and supported the three major online social platforms to ban Guo Wengui. Even Wei Shi and Xinuo sued Guo Wengui to the Manhattan High Court.
But the democracy activists have always overestimated themselves, just as they have always overestimated their political influence. Like Li Hongkuan’s three thousand county party committee secretaries, everyone has their own set of state-running programs—all of these strange ruling programs that you can hear in any taxi driver or chess grandfather in Beijing.
The saddest thing in this world is that you think you have licked a night pearl and wiped it to find it is a scum egg. Even more exasperating is that it is still stinky.
I respect the people of democracy, but their choice of 28 years ago, history has proved stupid once, 28 years later, they are foolish for the second time since Guo Wengui was ecstatic from the beginning to the present.
Guo Wengui’s “stirring the crowbar” not only disturbed the mind of the democracy movement, but also successfully squeezed them into the stage of history – it was cruel than destroying the democracy movement.
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