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Why tipping culture wont work in Singapore ?
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i'd support the tipping culture. the extra 10% service charge should be removed.
I be happy to give tips to the waiter who give good attentive services ........ !
But adding 10% to the gross bill it totally distasteful .....
Why shd i tip the waiter if ....... the restaurant automatically charges additional 10% on my dinning bill ?
It's a mandatory thing to do for all restaurants, because what if most people don't tip when the 10% svc charge is removed?
Tipping encourages discrimination in service rendered. A big-tipper would get a better service, at the expense of less-tipper may I add, cause most waiting staff would spend more time and effort on the big-tipper. That said, I agree that this applies to known big-tipping repeat customers only.
What about a situation of all first-timers? The waiting staff would have no idea who's going to tip more. That's even worse. They'll judge you by your clothes and bearing. A badly dressed rugged man won't be served properly even if he has more than enough in his pocket to pay the bill and tip generously.
Tipping as a culture in the US is inherent from the tax system. Salaries are taxed whereas tips are tax-free. So, lower the salary and encourage tipping. In countries like Singapore, if you work as a waiting staff, you're not in the tax bracket anyway.
What about a situation of all first-timers? The waiting staff would have no idea who's going to tip more. That's even worse. They'll judge you by your clothes and bearing. A badly dressed rugged man won't be served properly even if he has more than enough in his pocket to pay the bill and tip generously.
Tipping as a culture in the US is inherent from the tax system. Salaries are taxed whereas tips are tax-free. So, lower the salary and encourage tipping. In countries like Singapore, if you work as a waiting staff, you're not in the tax bracket anyway.
That why the restaurant must segment the sitting. Who ever goes to his zone , he must serve. So ...... no chance of choosing customer !
Yes , treatment may differ from different waiter. But it will bring up the overall service level.
Of course restaurant owner will not want to LOSE hold of the 10% generated ! It virtually free ....... ! That why restaurant here in Singapore keep the 10% and keep saying bad things abt tipping.
Old fart ban tipping in the early days because he feared sinkees would be drawn to working as waiters/waitreses as these jobs could pay more than grads.
Pappies want sinkees to work in factories in the late 70s and 80s. Banning tips would discourage sinkees from working in F & B sector. That time F & B sector mostly run by expats/ ex sailors.
Pappies as usual do not want potential tippers to hold back that extra cash, so they decided to reward F & B employers with service charge. Indirectly rewarding themselves through taxes.
Pappies want sinkees to work in factories in the late 70s and 80s. Banning tips would discourage sinkees from working in F & B sector. That time F & B sector mostly run by expats/ ex sailors.
Pappies as usual do not want potential tippers to hold back that extra cash, so they decided to reward F & B employers with service charge. Indirectly rewarding themselves through taxes.
You are so wrong. You obviously never work in such an environment.
Do you noticed that first world countries have waiters in their 50s and 60s? Here in peesai, boat quay hires cheap Nepalese waitress.
Good service is the most important factor in the west. Its in their nature to reward good people with good service.
The tipping culture in the west weeds out the people with bad service from the people that gives good service.
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I think customers will save on tips this way.
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What about a situation of all first-timers? The waiting staff would have no idea who's going to tip more. That's even worse. They'll judge you by your clothes and bearing. A badly dressed rugged man won't be served properly even if he has more than enough in his pocket to pay the bill and tip generously.
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This is a joke right? You are employed to serve everyone that steps in your establishment.
In the west waitresses are mature enough and smart enough to know that anyone is a potential tipper.
I have worked in a roadhouse type bar in Alberta, the waitresses are much more professional than 5 star hotel waitresses in peesai.
What about a situation of all first-timers? The waiting staff would have no idea who's going to tip more. That's even worse. They'll judge you by your clothes and bearing. A badly dressed rugged man won't be served properly even if he has more than enough in his pocket to pay the bill and tip generously.
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This is a joke right? You are employed to serve everyone that steps in your establishment.
In the west waitresses are mature enough and smart enough to know that anyone is a potential tipper.
I have worked in a roadhouse type bar in Alberta, the waitresses are much more professional than 5 star hotel waitresses in peesai.
Hey its up to the customers to tip. Thats the beauty of tipping. Right now sinkees have to pay compulsory tips in a form of service charge.
I do not go often to restaurants because of the service charge , why should I pay in ADVANCE for the potentialy GOOD service I have yet to receive.
I do not go often to restaurants because of the service charge , why should I pay in ADVANCE for the potentialy GOOD service I have yet to receive.
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It all boils down to pappies greed once again. Pappies charge a ridiculous rent to tenant, in return pappies give cheap labour and a little bit on the side in a form of service charge.
In the end the sinkees at the bottom end of the food chain are the ones that suffer.
In the end the sinkees at the bottom end of the food chain are the ones that suffer.
i agree! SGers don't know what is service. and most SG waiters/tress have low IQ. those in the west will surprise you with their wisecracks and out of box thinking, plus initiative on the job.
this is the good result of tipping. only the good service people survive.
dat 10% service charge goes 2 ze pocket of dat fat restaurant owner la ... ze service staffs wun c it ...
tipping in sg? ... 4get it la ... alot of ppl here r so stingy n demanding 1 ... probly, dey hold a check list n if u miss sumting on dat list, there goes ur tips ...
If a tipping culture is to be introduced here, we must first raise the profile of the service industry. Tipping must not be seen as a bribe but a reward for good service.
Unfortunately it's ingrained in our Asian culture to treat service staff as a lower form of human beings
"Tip" is almost a dirty word here. Who gets tipped in sinkapore? KTV and massage girls after performing special services ...
Unfortunately it's ingrained in our Asian culture to treat service staff as a lower form of human beings
"Tip" is almost a dirty word here. Who gets tipped in sinkapore? KTV and massage girls after performing special services ...
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