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</td></tr> <tr><td class="msgtxt">It amazes me no end to note that personal privacy in Sinkiepore is abused to make money for Telco companies and Yellow pages.
Here's how. When a subscriber signs up to a residential phone line, automatically his NAME, ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER is published in a free public phone directory, as well as on a CD-ROM. Such private data is also accessible when one searches online on the Yellow Pages website.
To prevent one's NAME, ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER not to be published publicly, one has to PAY a monthly fee to have it private listed.
There are two infringement of personal privacy committed by the Telco companies, as I noted.
1. Why a consent by the subscriber is not required by the Telco when it allowed Yellow Pages to publish the subscribers' private details on a public directory. The phone number may be made public, BUT why is the ADDRESS also made public without the consent of the subscriber?
2. Why is it necessary to publish the ADDRESS of the subscriber in the phone book? This will give rise to spam mail and other marketing spam from vendors. This also could be a source of nuisance and stalking by undesirable elements.
Why can't the Telco just publish the NAME and the PHONE NUMBER, but leave out the ADDRESS? At least, the subscriber can cancel the phone line if there is uncontrolled nuisance, but surely the subscriber cannot be moving home just because some marketers are spamming his ADDRESS or someone is stalking him or her, for example.
Actually, the moot point is this. Who gave the Telcos the right to invade and infringe on a subscriber's right to privacy of keeping his ADDRESS private and hidden from public viewing?
The Telco should not publish the residential address. PERIOD. This is not what the subscriber sign up for. The subscriber sign up for a PHONE line, not to have his residential address published on a public directory by Yellow Pages.
The subscriber should have his or her right to home privacy.
Starhub is even more blatant. The digital voice line which it offers...well, once one has subscribed to it, the NAME, ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER are similarly published in the same Yellow Pages phone directory, just like the Singtel residential land line, which traditionally, most of us know of the private listed number feature.
Who would have thought that Starhub's digital voice line is treated similar to the Singtel analog land line?
I know of a female friend who had paid a monthly fee to private list her Singtel residential land line. But she also registered for the Digital Voice line from Starhub as part of her Starhub's maxonline upgrade package.
But unknown to her then was that Starhub published her NAME, ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER in Yellow Pages directory without checking with her if she intends to private list her digital voice number.
She, like many of us, will never have thought of asking Starhub, since most of us will assume that the digital voice line, since it is through the cable modem subscription package, is not the same as the Singtel land line.
Most of us are familiar with the odd practice of privacy invasion by Singtel unless one opt to pay to have the number private listed.
From what I was told by her, she had estranged from her ex-husband for some years and moved quietly to another home with her children without her husband's knowing where she is staying. That's why she had paid to have her number private listed.
But when she subscribed to the digital voice enabled modem maxonline upgrade service from Starhub, she was given a free digital voice line, which she took up. No one in Starhub advised her that her digital line number, address and name will be published in a public phone directory.
It did not cross her mind that her ADDRESS will be published publicly on the phone book and CD-ROM and online searches.
No one in Starhub told her that the digital voice line number, address and her name will be published unless she private list it. All Hell broke loose for her.
Now, she lives every day in fear of her own safety as well as her children, because her husband is a violent and aggressive stalker.
I noted that the recent case of the PRC mama, whose daughter was murdered by the taxi-driver husband because he came to know of her address from the divorce papers.
This whole infringement of subscriber's HOME ADDRESS privacy by the Telcos and Yellow Pages should not be tolerated. There should be a stop to such bad ethical practices.
Please, someone who knows any main-stream reporters, please get this post publicized and published. This is of public interest, I think.
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My comments: This is outrageous! I am sure many digital voice line subscribers were caught on the wrong foot, having their Singtel residential line private listed for security reasons, only to have Starhub publish their details on the public phone book through the strange-sounding VOIP-like digital voice enabled modem line. WTF is a digital voice enabled modem, anyway!
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</td></tr> <tr><td class="msgtxt">It amazes me no end to note that personal privacy in Sinkiepore is abused to make money for Telco companies and Yellow pages.
Here's how. When a subscriber signs up to a residential phone line, automatically his NAME, ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER is published in a free public phone directory, as well as on a CD-ROM. Such private data is also accessible when one searches online on the Yellow Pages website.
To prevent one's NAME, ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER not to be published publicly, one has to PAY a monthly fee to have it private listed.
There are two infringement of personal privacy committed by the Telco companies, as I noted.
1. Why a consent by the subscriber is not required by the Telco when it allowed Yellow Pages to publish the subscribers' private details on a public directory. The phone number may be made public, BUT why is the ADDRESS also made public without the consent of the subscriber?
2. Why is it necessary to publish the ADDRESS of the subscriber in the phone book? This will give rise to spam mail and other marketing spam from vendors. This also could be a source of nuisance and stalking by undesirable elements.
Why can't the Telco just publish the NAME and the PHONE NUMBER, but leave out the ADDRESS? At least, the subscriber can cancel the phone line if there is uncontrolled nuisance, but surely the subscriber cannot be moving home just because some marketers are spamming his ADDRESS or someone is stalking him or her, for example.
Actually, the moot point is this. Who gave the Telcos the right to invade and infringe on a subscriber's right to privacy of keeping his ADDRESS private and hidden from public viewing?
The Telco should not publish the residential address. PERIOD. This is not what the subscriber sign up for. The subscriber sign up for a PHONE line, not to have his residential address published on a public directory by Yellow Pages.
The subscriber should have his or her right to home privacy.
Starhub is even more blatant. The digital voice line which it offers...well, once one has subscribed to it, the NAME, ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER are similarly published in the same Yellow Pages phone directory, just like the Singtel residential land line, which traditionally, most of us know of the private listed number feature.
Who would have thought that Starhub's digital voice line is treated similar to the Singtel analog land line?
I know of a female friend who had paid a monthly fee to private list her Singtel residential land line. But she also registered for the Digital Voice line from Starhub as part of her Starhub's maxonline upgrade package.
But unknown to her then was that Starhub published her NAME, ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER in Yellow Pages directory without checking with her if she intends to private list her digital voice number.
She, like many of us, will never have thought of asking Starhub, since most of us will assume that the digital voice line, since it is through the cable modem subscription package, is not the same as the Singtel land line.
Most of us are familiar with the odd practice of privacy invasion by Singtel unless one opt to pay to have the number private listed.
From what I was told by her, she had estranged from her ex-husband for some years and moved quietly to another home with her children without her husband's knowing where she is staying. That's why she had paid to have her number private listed.
But when she subscribed to the digital voice enabled modem maxonline upgrade service from Starhub, she was given a free digital voice line, which she took up. No one in Starhub advised her that her digital line number, address and name will be published in a public phone directory.
It did not cross her mind that her ADDRESS will be published publicly on the phone book and CD-ROM and online searches.
No one in Starhub told her that the digital voice line number, address and her name will be published unless she private list it. All Hell broke loose for her.
Now, she lives every day in fear of her own safety as well as her children, because her husband is a violent and aggressive stalker.
I noted that the recent case of the PRC mama, whose daughter was murdered by the taxi-driver husband because he came to know of her address from the divorce papers.
This whole infringement of subscriber's HOME ADDRESS privacy by the Telcos and Yellow Pages should not be tolerated. There should be a stop to such bad ethical practices.
Please, someone who knows any main-stream reporters, please get this post publicized and published. This is of public interest, I think.
</td></tr></tbody></table>
My comments: This is outrageous! I am sure many digital voice line subscribers were caught on the wrong foot, having their Singtel residential line private listed for security reasons, only to have Starhub publish their details on the public phone book through the strange-sounding VOIP-like digital voice enabled modem line. WTF is a digital voice enabled modem, anyway!