Chitchat Why Muslims have failed Islam and made it the subject of hate and ridicule.

[whoami]

I wish PAS can rule malaysia with Hadi Awang as Prime Minister. He will be able to show the world how Islam can bring light, advancement and glory .

Well said! I hope ur wish come true. Subhanallah!

 

[JohnTan]

whoami babi claims that Islam is peaceful and compassionate.

Most mosques chose to downplay islamic imperialism, chosing only to focus on moslem arab architecture as evidence of a peaceful happy empire forged out of slaughtering and conquering. They also chose to write about non-moslems resisting islamic invasions into their homeland as 'attacking islam'.

Even the Balinese who produced world famous roast pork cuisine are more cultured and peaceful than their fellow islamist countrymen.

The balinese are still eating pork solely because they defeated waves of moslem invasion. If the moslem invasions were successful, the balinese would have been slaughtered, sold into slavery and forced to convert to islam. That's how india today has about 30% moslem, including those in pakistan and bangladesh. They were also moslem thanks to the legacy of 1000 years of islamic imperialism.

 

[whoami]

Those temples were mostly built ages ago when Muslims were more tolerant or under British rule.
Churches and temples nowadays are forced to use shop houses even if there are land reserve for religious purposes. While Muslim aureus are everywhere.

Tats not the way to discuss. Not with lies. Look at Msia. Big big temples and churches everywhere. Look at ur Batu cave temple. So big, huge and majestic. Now look at Sinkieland There are Masjids built under carparks,no? Plse travel more often and mix around. Dont always rely on social media on SBF only. Dont be like a frog in a well. Now u tell me which temples or churches built at basement or at carparks? Subhannallah!

 

[syed putra]

You are not a Muslim. Not when you corrupt what the Quran says.

Here is correct 2:221
And do not marry polytheistic women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you. And do not marry polytheistic men [to your women] until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a polytheist, even though he might please you. Those invite [you] to the Fire, but Allah invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember.


They will have a special place for you in hell for lying on God's words.

do not serve religion and their clerics who control it. You can join them of you wish. seek guidance only from God with a clear conscience.
Muslim murderous invasion and religion started after the death of Mohamed in 632.

“Today, I have completed your religion, perfected My blessing upon you, and I have decreed Submission/Islam as the SYSTEM for you…” (Quran 5:3)

 

[Loofydralb]

I wish PAS can rule malaysia with Hadi Awang as Prime Minister. He will be able to show the world how Islam can bring light, advancement and glory .

China was ruled by the Confucian ethos for centuries and they did get anywhere. Only in the last 40 years of communism did the chinese rose to prominence. So the point remains:
What is resultant of you efforts is only detemnined by God.

 

[syed putra]

U can serve ur god lying down or sitting and play dumb. But we Muslims, we worship by actions. Physical and spiritually.

The act of worship are not defined in The Quran. Nor mentioned.

 

[whoami]

You are not a Muslim. Not when you corrupt what the Quran says.

Here is correct 2:221
And do not marry polytheistic women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you. And do not marry polytheistic men [to your women] until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a polytheist, even though he might please you. Those invite [you] to the Fire, but Allah invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember.


They will have a special place for you in hell for lying on God's words.

Ayah. Tat @syed putra know maybe 2% of knowledge fm social media, twist and turn the meaning of the Quran. Worship he twist into serving, Prophet Muhammad spelled out clearly in Arablc he claimed no such name in the Quran, Prophet built a masjid, he claimed teres no masjid during Prophet time, etc etc etc...semua rojak he goreng. With people like him twisting and turning true meaning of the Quran...no wonder we have IS.

 

[whoami]

The act of worship are not defined in The Quran. Nor mentioned.

Unlike the bible which u read, we Muslims follow the Quran and the Hadiths. Example...Quran mentioned worship Allah. The hadiths will explained in detail by the Prophet. Quran is he word of Allah azzawajal. Hadiths is the saying and sunnah of the Prophet, pbuh. Both need to be separated. Or else ended up like ur bible. Tink this one also told u many times. U dementia issit?

 

[nirvarq]

Ok let me 'shock' ya'll a bit since we're on LOCKDOWN and it farking boring... lol


First and foremost, the most important aspect of religions is, do you believe you are a part of the creations or are you a part of the Creator itself ? Hence we gotta clarify first before we argue about GOD. What is GOD to you ? To most GOD is the Creator and we are the creations ya ? But to many GOD is NATURE and everything is part of GOD or GOD is everything including the self..... Hah ! that's the difference.

Primitive minds never dare to cross that line out of fear and actually it's ignorance. Advance minds through knowledge, wisdom and Quantum physics we know that GOD is that unpotentiated potential or simply put INFINITY.

Hence there's a saying if you understand INFINITY or Infinite Intelligent energy or Consciousness you've understood what is GOD the I AM. Or I Am All that I Am.

Yeshua believes the Father, Son and holy Spirit is One and then he continue to say : "Did i not in your laws said ye are all sons of God ?"

The Father means entities like YHWH, Yahweh a highly evolved entity (is that jealous God is YHWH) We are in fact all part of YHWH because remember we're all made in the likeness of God.

But in the consciousness of his creations in perfect 'Heavens' in fourth density realm we're shameless, we're pure and we listen to him 100% but then there's no progression there no crime there's no desires and there's no fun after a while same old same old...

Then YHWH made a request from Central Logos the Central SUN that is GOD itself, YHWH is God not GOD. That's why he's that jealous God, 懂吗 ？（Understand？）
Then YHWH made a pact with the Minister of Development or The LightBringer - Lucifer.

Lucifer said ok here's the deal : I shall create a Tree of Life if they eat from it they will know right from wrong and they will have a Soul like you and me and they will become like us in the future, Gods.

YHWH said nah.. they won't they only listen to me and my laws they will never eat from that tree.. /rofl.... You know what happened right ? Hence the terms fallen Angels. The rest is history. So now we're 'under construction' this realm is a created realm and it's heavily Guarded too.

The sufferings here are intendedly streamed to us for our experiences to learn compassion first hand because when we suffer we know how painful and helpless it can be.

We're being prepared to be Gods. Whahaha.... just a story for your amusement ! lol..........

(In praise of the One Infinite Creator) GOD.

 

[JohnTan]

The act of worship are not defined in The Quran. Nor mentioned.

So the quran is an incomplete book. Need the hadith to elaborate on quran. Even the islamists admit that they need to learn about their religion from both books, not one book.

 

[syed putra]

So the quran is an incomplete book. Need the hadith to elaborate on quran. Even the islamists admit that they need to learn about their religion from both books, not one book.

In theory the quran is suppose to be the onky book.
But even then, we must question it's authenticity.
As it was not written by Mohamed.

“'Shall I seek other than God as a judge when He has sent down to you the Book fully detailed?'” Those to whom We have given the Book know it is sent down from your Lord with truth; so do not be of those who have doubt." (Qur'an 6:114 )

Of course,,there are people who are not satisfied and seek religion apart from God alone.

 

[JohnTan]

In theory the quran is suppose to be the onky book.
But even then, we must question it's authenticity.
As it was not written by Mohamed.

Only book or not, changed or not, the fact remains that moslems need two books to learn about their religion. So the claim about 'perfected religion' is already debunked by moslems themselves. They need a 2nd book because their 'perfected, unchanged' book isn't good enough.

The quran was not written by mohammad. It's supposedly a compilation of his sayings and deeds. There's mention about a segment of the quran missing because it was eaten by a goat. So, even by moslem accounts, the quran is not complete.

 

[syed putra]

Only book or not, changed or not, the fact remains that moslems need two books to learn about their religion. So the claim about 'perfected religion' is already debunked by moslems themselves. They need a 2nd book because their 'perfected, unchanged' book isn't good enough.

The quran was not written by mohammad. It's supposedly a compilation of his sayings and deeds. There's mention about a segment of the quran missing because it was eaten by a goat. So, even by moslem accounts, the quran is not complete.

The hadith divert the people into religion. If you look at Quran alone, it's on the basis of believing in God alone. You .can believe in God without need ing a religion.

 

[JohnTan]

'Shall I seek other than God as a judge when He has sent down to you the Book fully detailed?'” Those to whom We have given the Book know it is sent down from your Lord with truth; so do not be of those who have doubt." (Qur'an 6:114 )

Clearly, the forum's islamists disagree with this verse.

The hadith divert the people into religion. If you look at Quran alone, it's on the basis of believing in God alone. You .can believe in God without need ing a religion.

I agree with you that you can believe in God without needing a religion. People need religion because they are trying to earn God's forgiveness. The more pious and intolerant they are, the more they think they are closer to God.

 

[Loofydralb]

“'Shall I seek other than God as a judge when He has sent down to you the Book fully detailed?'” Those to whom We have given the Book know it is sent down from your Lord with truth; so do not be of those who have doubt." (Qur'an 6:114 )

Of course,,there are people who are not satisfied and seek religion apart from God alone.

Get your translations right.

[Say], "Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters."

explained in detail refers to the Sunnah.

Obviously Syed Putra is not a Muslim. See how he twists the words of the Quran and lie to be one. He is a hypocrite to his own religion.

 

[syed putra]

Get your translations right.

[Say], "Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters."

explained in detail refers to the Sunnah.

Obviously Syed Putra is not a Muslim. See how he twists the words of the Quran and lie to be one. He is a hypocrite to his own religion.

I have conveyed you the message. Tonight, you ask God for guidance. If you do not, then I have nothing more to say.

 

[JohnTan]

I have conveyed you the message. Tonight, you ask God for guidance. If you do not, then I have nothing more to say.

I wasn't aware that islamists actually prayed to God. I do know they go through the motions of a ritual without the part of God actually speaking back to them. As you said, moslems and especially islamists, worship a religion, not God.

 

[whoami]

Obviously Syed Putra is not a Muslim. See how he twists the words of the Quran and lie to be one. He is a hypocrite to his own religion.

Of course hes not a Muslim. U go thru all his post. At times he will "defend" the Malay/Muslims n the Quran by insulting the cheena. So in retaliation the majority cheena will attack the Malay/muslims n Islam tinking tat hes a "Muslim". Then he will join in n attack/insult Muslims altogether. Oh sure....hes having a great fun. See how cunning tis Syed Putra is?

 

[syed putra]

Of course hes not a Muslim. U go thru all his post. At times he will "defend" the Malay/Muslims n the Quran by insulting the cheena. So in retaliation the majority cheena will attack the Malay/muslims n Islam tinking tat hes a "Muslim". Then he will join in n attack/insult Muslims altogether. Oh sure....hes having a great fun. See how cunning tis Syed Putra is?

You ritual prayer is wasted. It serves no purpose.

 

[whoami]

You ritual prayer is wasted. It serves no purpose.

U believe ur ape religion. I believe my invisible God.