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Serious Why is there no government action against Chinese Communist Party propaganda on Singaporeans?

Great!!


Requires speculation on my part. Other than that I have no dispute with your statement.


ah... yes they were genuine cases of corruption. But selective prosecution of corruption does not equal justice. There are a great number of crooks still roaming free. Far more than those prosecuted. More likely, those who posed a threat to him were persecuted, not just prosecuted. Those that weren't a threat and paid their tribute are still allowed to go about business as usual. Really nothing ever changes does it?

For me, to a certain extent I love freedom with reason. I see no such thing as long as he is in charge. Put another way, as long as they have a communist foundation, a free and just society will never exist. Rather which leader and his cabal will have the run of the place. With Deng it was a whole lot better, but Xi and Mao are the default option for a country built around Communism.

You can easily take my opinion and copy/paste Putin/Russia or Kim/North Korea. Any communist country. That's only scratching the surface of this crap.

Long term effects of such leadership and the consequent psycho-social environment created are paranoid and selfish people with crab in a bucket mentality to say the least. Again, try inserting Russia or North Korea or Cuba into anything I write.
I'm trying not to write a paper here so I'm going to put the brakes on myself now...
Agree on the part on selective persecution. Playing with fire which might get himself burnt. I will deepdive into study of Xi and pass a verdict on his fate ;->. If China regress into a backward crazy country like Mao era, I will be the first to denounce them. However, I don’t believe it has gone there based on my personal observation on the grounds.
 
Agree on the part on selective persecution. Playing with fire which might get himself burnt. I will deepdive into study of Xi and pass a verdict on his fate ;->. If China regress into a backward crazy country like Mao era, I will be the first to denounce them. However, I don’t believe it has gone there based on my personal observation on the grounds.
It will never end up back there economically.

I remember one of my first posts to you was regarding success of China. I don't view money and power as anything worth keeping track of. Rather, moral, ethical and social conscience are far more important to me. Communism not only impoverishes the people economically and monetarily, but more importantly spiritually and morally.

One problem can be recovered from. witness Deng era. The other I have yet to see any country recover from. I was hoping that China would be the 1st to break this trap. But if anything it has proven my fears true. Well, I can still hope.
 
I don’t. And I agree WWII is past and Japan today is nothing like imperial Japan of WWII. Japan is a great nation with great people, their products change lives. However I would not think the same of their Politicians. They could not rid themselves of the ghost of WWII and are in constant fear of Chinese retribution. But sucking up to US to play against China shows lack of remorse.

Well, the same applies to CCP of China. CCP has being trying to push their control thru communist shit since day 1 and has never stop. Again, you sided with China's enemy number1; - CCP.
CCP has held Chinese people hostage since day 1. Japan has not.
 
I almost thought my son was writing the post.
My dad thought me from young Chinese Communists are evil. He has never been to China. The only China Chinese person he knows is Mao Tse Tung. There was a crazy man in the little town I grew up... apparently he went crazy because Mao’s forces persecuted his family and he was the only person who escaped. In short my dad is someone who believes Ang Moh is the best. I grew up watching Hollywood movies and like everyone else, believed that America was the mightiest nation ever existed. The turning point was when I saw America bombed Afghanistan to ashes apparently to “smoke out” bin laden. And then the revealation that “Weapon of Mass Distruction” is nothing but bullshit. They just wanted the oil. Then the regime change initiated by US across several countries which resulted in total chaos. It was eye opening the extent to which US mainstream media lie to the world. I started to understand how indoctrinated all of us were growing up watching heroic America glorifying movie. As I investigated further, I started to understand as well how the west has lied about China. The rest is history...
Shooo CECA shit!

Moron! US has the MOST OIL RESERVES IN WORLD! Moron!

Go back to India! If canada does not want you singapore does not want you shooo!
 
I only bring this up because CECA Indian LordElrond here says US war on terror was about oil, so there you go. US has most in world.

This is what happens when you allow CECAs into Singapore they fight with security guard in their condos and come on our forums and talk shit.

Soon US will be nett exporter of oil and China will beg US for it.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-be...il-fuels-for-first-time-in-decades-1544128404

U.S. Becomes Net Exporter of Oil, Fuels for First Time in Decades
Fracking boom briefly propels U.S. to symbolic milestone of ‘energy independence’
 
Even the wiser and more capable Tiongs have moved overseas to work and live. Even though some of them won't admit it openly, they understand that China in its current state is a basket case dystopian shithole, it's not a place for humans to live, and not conducive for raising healthy children.
Actually, they put their families overseas. But the husband remain in china working.
 
I only bring this up because CECA Indian LordElrond here says US war on terror was about oil, so there you go. US has most in world.

This is what happens when you allow CECAs into Singapore they fight with security guard in their condos and come on our forums and talk shit.

Soon US will be nett exporter of oil and China will beg US for it.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-be...il-fuels-for-first-time-in-decades-1544128404

U.S. Becomes Net Exporter of Oil, Fuels for First Time in Decades
Fracking boom briefly propels U.S. to symbolic milestone of ‘energy independence’
This only happened around 2013/4 fracking boom i think. Before that, US was not exporting..
 
Did Saddam Attack US? Check your facts.
Saddam was used as a collective punishment for all arabs since US does not want to antagonise Saudi.
Innocent US and Iraqi lives were lost because of what saudi did. But they escaped punishment. US in fact continue selling weapons to them.
 
Agree on the part on selective persecution. Playing with fire which might get himself burnt. I will deepdive into study of Xi and pass a verdict on his fate ;->. If China regress into a backward crazy country like Mao era, I will be the first to denounce them. However, I don’t believe it has gone there based on my personal observation on the grounds.
Actually, I felt something was missing from my earlier replies. It just occurred to me what it is.

The whole god forsaken communist ideology is siren call to unhappy people. By engaging the unhappiest margins of society to revolt and overthrow those above them, they achieve regime change. But what happens after that? What they have created is ultimately a power vacuum created by violence and anarchy. So who can step into said power vacuum created through force and violence except someone more forceful and violent than the revolters themselves? Is it a mere coincidence that every single communist country is run by some autocratic dictator?

Deng brought capitalism only to the markets, but allowed communism to dictate social and political policy. It's only a matter of time until another Mao shows up and now he has. If it's not Xi it will be someone like them. As long as Marxism is alive and well, the populace in those systems might as well be serfs. I find it revolting that China and it's proud history is reduced to swallowing the garbage of this outcast from Judaism.

If you're looking for my point, here it is. As long as communism has a hold on China, the Chinese people will forever be under the boot of unrelenting autocracy. This autocracy forces a subhuman behavior in all the people forced to live in this system. Some people resist it well, others break free of it. But the default is humans living in misery and mistreating other humans for their own gain. The clearest example of this is East and West Germany. While West Germany was flying high from the ashes of WW2, try living with the Stasi in the East.
 
When Lee Hsien Loong dies, I want this to be the intro when national tv stations begin their broadcast.

Change the music and replace the Kim faces with the Lee faces.

 
I only bring this up because CECA Indian LordElrond here says US war on terror was about oil, so there you go. US has most in world.

This is what happens when you allow CECAs into Singapore they fight with security guard in their condos and come on our forums and talk shit.

Soon US will be nett exporter of oil and China will beg US for it.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-be...il-fuels-for-first-time-in-decades-1544128404

U.S. Becomes Net Exporter of Oil, Fuels for First Time in Decades
Fracking boom briefly propels U.S. to symbolic milestone of ‘energy independence’
fuck this idiot his IQ is 20
 
I only bring this up because CECA Indian LordElrond here says US war on terror was about oil, so there you go. US has most in world.

He's a retard.

Moslems think that way because in their entire religious history, moslems got rich from plundering and looting other countries' wealth. So they see others through similar lenses and conclude that if their country was rich, it has to be through plunder.

If the US plundered lots of oil, then their citizens should be having very very cheap or free oil. Or the market will be full of excess oil from US trying to unload its plunder of cheap oil. But that hasn't happened in the decades since the first gulf war.
 
Why doesn't he just move out from daddy's house? :rolleyes::biggrin:

My dad has been self-radicalising every night with extreme pro-China/anti-non-China propaganda videos. Anyone experienced similar behaviour? What should I do?


I write this from a point of fear and exasperation. My life at home revolves around avoiding and fearing my dad. But in the last year or so he has gained a new habit that scares and triggers me.

Every night (and every morning + afternoon since WFH started), he plays a series of videos about China. They are usually either videos with robot voices, or videos with a human talking angrily.

The views and content I've heard from these videos include:

  • China is a lion, that is only sleeping right now
  • The islands in the South China sea are China's, because China got them first in a past dynasty. All other countries opposing China are flawed, barbaric, have violent histories, etc. and they should be ashamed; or they used to be under the barbaric rule of the west, and so should side with China instead
  • Back when the Hong Kong courts overturned the mask ban last year, one video said about the judges involved: "Foreigners are not Chinese, they don't have Chinese blood, that's why they don't care about China"
  • If I don't pay attention, all I hear is 中国的 (China's) and 美国的 (America's) on loop
All this began when our Chinese TV channels started showing mainly shows from China, and removed most shows from Taiwan. He got interested in watching those shows online, and got steadily into angrier-sounding videos via recommendations. Now every day and night I'm bombarded with anti-US videos with strident robotic voices, and my dad has been making increasingly extreme and hostile comments, like:

  • Spouting conspiracy theories about SARS and COVID being a western weapon targeting Asian races, and when Germans first got infected he said "cannot be leh"
  • Using "angmoh" as an actual slur against any European/Australian/American white people
  • Gloating that more angmohs are dying from COVID, meaning they are inferior to the Chinese
  • Joking about invading the US because they seem weak right now
My mum is gradually being influenced too (she also gloated about the COVID deaths). I'm a major pacifist so all this makes me struggle to live peacefully at home.

I think that this behaviour is self-radicalisation, no less harmful than the kind promoting ISIS/terrorism that got people in trouble with ISA. Has anyone else observed those around them getting similarly radicalised? And does anyone know what I can do about it? I have been frantically searching for a suitable de-radicalisation video/article to drop into the family group chat, but most content I find discussing biased or rage-inducing media is US/UK-centric. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Note: In case it's not obvious, I am neither pro- nor anti- China.

Second note: Can y'all not downvote comments unless they're really irrelevant? I'm not looking for an echo chamber. I'm willing to hear the other side as long as they're not ads or trolls.

...............

Edit: Adding more anecdotes as I remember them. Plus more context in response to the comments here:

  • My dad is tech-savvy (he worked in tech for many decades). His devices are controlled by him.
  • He's English-educated, in the best stream in his time, which was Engineering. But he's not educated in other areas like critical thinking, as he thinks anything non-science is arty-farty nonsense.
  • He was pro-Trump not long ago. And I think my parents occasionally watch Dr Oz
  • My dad has been to China with my mum, twice in the past year. I think they go to see scenic mountains.
  • To explain the fear I mentioned: My dad rules our family in an authoritarian way. Depending on his mood, sometimes no disagreements, opinions, or "likes and dislikes" are allowed. You never know what you might do or say to trigger his anger, violence and insults. Things have improved since everyone has gone grey-rock on him except my mum.
  • Second reason for fear: He's turned a lot more racist, and has a slur for any major race here + angmohs. He is also a voter. Can you imagine if an anti-"west" pro-war party appears in the next few terms?
  • I think some of the videos are from Whatsapp as well
What I'm trying:

  • My preferred way to take action is non-confrontational, so I'd be most grateful for any links I can drop into my family group chat! Like this one
  • I have read about deep canvassing as a good method to reduce prejudice, and am trying out the ideas (non-judgmental listening, sharing more personal stories, nudging towards reflection)
...............

One day later:

Thank you everyone for your comments, suggestions and stories! I've learnt some new things here and will continue reading through all of these.

I've concluded sadly that my observation is not uncommon, and also not the most extreme. I see that others are also struggling with inter-generational conflict. I might find time later to compile a list of good resources and ideas here.
 
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