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why does our gov slow to share good news with us?

leetahbar

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when mas selamat escaped, the news relayed to the nation was delayed. now it happens again. when he was captured more than a month ago on 1st apr, the new is only released to us now. what's wrong wth this gov? try to piece some DAMAGE CONTROL commercial before the nation gets to know it is it? why let the nation worry for another month? why waste another month's of intense national security? what else are they holding back from us? our cpf is already gone!!??:eek:

S'pore leaders knew about Mas Selamat’s arrest says PM Lee (Update)


SINGAPORE: Singapore's top leaders already knew that its most wanted fugitive, Mas Selamat Kastari, had been captured by Malaysian authorities but had to keep mum about it on Malaysia's request.

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said his deputy Wong Kan Seng had told him that the Malaysian authorities had arrested (the Jemaah Islamiah militant group suspected leader) Mas Selamat, but the news could not be made public as it would jeopardise followup operations.

"Kan Seng told me that the Malaysians had asked us to keep this quiet for the time being," Lee said in a statement Saturday.

Lee said he then told his deputy that Singapore had to respect Malaysia's request although he knew that Singaporeans would be very anxious to know the news.

It is believed the statement was issued after some Singaporeans voiced their dismay over the news blackout on Mas Selamat's arrest by the local authorities that only officially confirmed it after it was leaked Friday by Singapore's main newspaper, The Straits Times. Malaysian authorities who also confirmed the arrest Saturday said Mas Selamat was captured by the police Special Branch early last month in Skudai, Johor, and was now detained under the Internal Security Act.

Mas Selamat, 48, who was said to be plotting several bomb attacks here had been on the run after he escaped from the maximum security Whitley Road detention centre on Feb 27, and this led to the first ever massive hunt by the city state authorities.

The prime minister said he came to know about the leak in the press on Thursday afternoon when Kan Seng, who is also the Home Affairs Minister, received a phone call from The Straits Times while all the Singapore cabinet ministers were having lunch before their weekly meeting.

His deputy said The Straits Times had called to ask the Internal Security Department (ISD) to confirm the newspaper's scoop that came from its Kuala Lumpur correspondent, that the Malaysian authorities had arrested Mas Selamat.

"As the story had leaked, we had no choice but to confirm it. It was only then that Kan Seng told the ministers that Mas Selamat had been arrested, the news had leaked and we would be confirming the story. They were taken completely by surprise," Lee said.

The prime minister also said that when he had a four-eye lunch with Malaysian Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak in Pattaya on April 11 after the Asean meeting was called off because of the demonstrations, Najib told him that the Malaysian authorities had arrested Mas Selamat.

Lee said he told Najib that he had been informed about the arrest earlier, and thanked Najib for Malaysia's generous support and help.

"I said that the terrorism problem affects both of us. The JI group remains active in the region, and we must work together to counter them as well as other such groups."

Lee said he also told Najib that he especially appreciated the close cooperation and trust between the ISD and its Malaysian counterpart, the Special Branch.

Lee said he was happy and relieved that Mas Selamat had been found and arrested before he could do any harm. - Bernama

Meanwhile, Bernama reported from Johor Baru that soon after entering Johor from Singapore, Mas Selamat Kastari, the alleged chief of the Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) militant group in Singapore, had met his two trusted friends.

Bernama was told that one of the men was Abdul Matin who lived in Ulu Tiram and the other, Johar Hassan who lived in a village in Skudai.

"Soon after reaching Johor after swimming from Woodlands, Singapore, Mas Selamat went to Ulu Tiram to look for Abdul Matin, who was believed to be a JI ordinary member," according to a source who is familiar with the operation to nab the man most wanted by Singapore authorities.

Not too long after that, Mas Selamat, who slipped out of a maximum security prison in Singapore in February last year, met Johar, a JI sympathiser in Skudai, he said.

As reported by the media, Abdul Matin and Johar were arrested under the Internal Security Act (ISA) on April 1.

On Friday, Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein confirmed the capture of Mas Selamat, a Singaporean, who is now detained under the ISA.

The source told Bernama that throughout his time in Johor, the JI chief was believed to be in contact only with only two trusted friends, refuting claims by an international think tank, the International Crisis Group (ICG), about the JI network in Malaysia.

ICG analyst Sidney Jones was quoted as saying in an article published by the online version of The Straits Times, Singapore, that the fact that Mas Selamat was able to stay under the radar for over a year in Johor "suggests the JI network in Malaysia may be less destroyed than we thought."

The source told Bernama that the statement by the ICG was "illogical and unacceptable" and that he doubted that the analyst had an in-depth knowledge of the actual JI position in Malaysia.

"Throughout the period he was hiding in Johor, Mas Selamat only made contact with the two men. This goes to show he has neither the support nor the sympathy," he said.

Meanwhile, he also revealed that while in Johor, Mas Selamat had planned to flee either to southern Philippines or to Indonesia but did not go ahead with it, thinking that he was safe in Johor.

"What Mas Selamat did not know was that we were already shadowing his movement.... later on, we moved in for the arrest," the source said. - Bernama

this media is NOT the shitty times for your info:

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/5/9/nation/20090509191223&sec=nation
 

leetahbar

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since now it's leaked by shittytimes, is the gov going to charge it for infringing n leaking of national secret without prior gov's approval?

and why can't the nation be made know of mas' capture? why must we be put to another extra month of apprehensiveness? what the hell our gov is treating us for? everyone plays a part in the national alert to help look out for mas selamat and seem that we aren't getting a fair deal here:mad:
 

Papsmearer

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since now it's leaked by shittytimes, is the gov going to charge it for infringing n leaking of national secret without prior gov's approval?

and why can't the nation be made know of mas' capture? why must we be put to another extra month of apprehensiveness? what the hell our gov is treating us for? everyone plays a part in the national alert to help look out for mas selamat and seem that we aren't getting a fair deal here:mad:

The capture of Mas Selamat by the Malaysians is not considered good news by the PAP. It shows the PAP as incompetent and grossly overpaid. If a corrupt police force like the Malaysian Police can arrest him, than surely the SPF are fools. That is why they do not want the info out.
 

blackmore

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since now it's leaked by shittytimes, is the gov going to charge it for infringing n leaking of national secret without prior gov's approval?

and why can't the nation be made know of mas' capture? why must we be put to another extra month of apprehensiveness? what the hell our gov is treating us for? everyone plays a part in the national alert to help look out for mas selamat and seem that we aren't getting a fair deal here:mad:


The Government has all along treated its citizen as immatured children. Withholding important information from public and planning for damage control was more likely the motive.

Remember, they screwed up big time on Mas and the nation had to suffer for their mistake in one way or the other!
 

A Shankar

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Becos the Malaysians need time to make Him talk using the latest Sleep deprivation technique.

(AFP) More than 25 of the CIA's war-on-terror prisoners were subjected to sleep deprivation during the administration of former president George W. Bush, The Los Angeles Times reported.

Citing memoranda made public by the Justice Department, the newspaper said that at one point, the Central Intelligence Agency was allowed to keep prisoners awake for as long as 11 days.

However, the limit was later reduced to just over a week, the report said.

Sleep deprivation had been one of the most important elements in the CIA's interrogation program, used to help break dozens of suspected terrorists, the paper said.

The technique is now prohibited by President Barack Obama's ban on harsh interrogation methods issued in January, although a task force is reviewing its use along with other interrogation methods, The Times said.

But the Justice Department memos released last month indicate the method involved forcing chained prisoners to stand, sometimes for days on end, the report said.

The prisoners had their feet shackled to the floor and their hands cuffed close to their chins, The Times said.

Detainees were clad only in diapers and not allowed to feed themselves. A prisoner who started to drift off to sleep would tilt over and be caught by his chains, according to the report.

Medical personnel were to make sure prisoners weren't injured. But a 2007 Red Cross report on the CIA program said detainees' wrists and ankles bore scars from their shackles, The Times said.

When detainees could no longer stand, they could be laid on the prison floor with their limbs "anchored to a far point on the floor in such a manner that the arms cannot be bent or used for balance or comfort," the paper said, citing a May 10, 2005, memo.

"The position is sufficiently uncomfortable to detainees to deprive them of unbroken sleep, while allowing their lower limbs to recover from the effects of standing," the report quotes the document as saying.

Within the CIA, sleep deprivation was seen as a method with the unique advantage of eroding prisoners' will to resist without causing lasting harm.
 

MarrickG

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when mas selamat escaped, the news relayed to the nation was delayed. now it happens again. when he was captured more than a month ago on 1st apr, the new is only released to us now. what's wrong wth this gov? try to piece some DAMAGE CONTROL commercial before the nation gets to know it is it? why let the nation worry for another month? why waste another month's of intense national security? what else are they holding back from us? our cpf is already gone!!??:eek:

Maybe the government should just inform the whole of Singapore when Mas Selamat was arrested even before they find out more details from the Malaysian so that they can suck up to all of you... so that the news would alert the accomplice of Mas Selamat and they could escape from Singapore...from all your postings...I'm really beginning to think that you're not a Singaporean at all...trying to sow discord amongst Singaporeans here???
 

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Singapore's top leaders already knew that its most wanted fugitive, Mas Selamat Kastari, had been captured by Malaysian authorities but had to keep mum about it on Malaysia's request.

You have just said it in bold :p
 

leetahbar

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The capture of Mas Selamat by the Malaysians is not considered good news by the PAP. It shows the PAP as incompetent and grossly overpaid. If a corrupt police force like the Malaysian Police can arrest him, than surely the SPF are fools. That is why they do not want the info out.

i think the msian mata is only paid a fraction of what sgp side is getting. same goes for their minitoots.
 

leetahbar

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The Government has all along treated its citizen as immatured children. Withholding important information from public and planning for damage control was more likely the motive.

Remember, they screwed up big time on Mas and the nation had to suffer for their mistake in one way or the other!

that's why i said it was UNFAIR that every sgporeans heeded gov's call to be alert n help to snitch out mas selamat. but when he was already caught in APRIL, the good news is only relayed to us until now.

if the SHITTIMES didn't probe, how long are we going to be kept in the dark? wks sure have a duty to explain to us. cut the craps that m'sian gov requested him to zip n keep quiet. this sounded like a super lame excuse.
 

leetahbar

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Maybe the government should just inform the whole of Singapore when Mas Selamat was arrested even before they find out more details from the Malaysian so that they can suck up to all of you... so that the news would alert the accomplice of Mas Selamat and they could escape from Singapore...from all your postings...I'm really beginning to think that you're not a Singaporean at all...trying to sow discord amongst Singaporeans here???

wks has done it again! he delayed vital info to citizens. when mas escaped, he was slow to tell. now even with his capture, again he is even slower to tell more than a month later.

wks should resign for his total inefficiency and inadept in his duty.
 

leetahbar

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don't forget. wks even -again how lianly - announced to us months after mas' escape that the terrorist "was still in sgp". everyone already suspected that either he was dead (killed by ISD) or already fled the country.

what was the shortie's view? mas was still in sgp. and now boasting about the intelligence about our ISD which helped in mas' capture.

sounds very funny isn't it?:confused:
 

leetahbar

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this is sheer complacency and credit-grabbing from a dept which in the first place shouldn't have allowed all this nonsense to happen.

now claiming credits for his arrest by m'sian authority really makes a mockery of the whole affair. they made themselves a big joke out of it. are we suppose to be proud or feel silly and embarrassed for them?

think about it.
 

singveld

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this gov have no accountibility towards sinkies at all.
they just pocket their million dollars salary.
 

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inadvertently and indirectly Bob has raised an important issue that the local media and PAP government appear to be avoiding...i.e. Did Singapore play some part in any way with respect to the news leak?...this very issue appears to have been touched upon in the news conference given by the Malaysian home affairs minister, those with access to Malaysian TV station channels would understand where i am coming from...no doubt Singapore has and shall deny this allegation and speculation...but i sense it was raised in Malaysia because there maybe some concern that the Singapore side was getting impatient as to when the news could be publicly released and also when MSK could be handed over to Singapore...

the other issue that the local media and the PAP government seem to be avoiding for perhaps obvious self serving reasons is the apparent support provided by the Indos in this matter...this issue also appears to have been raised in the Malaysian media...
 

angry_one

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Info like this is a matter of national security. If I am the police, and i know MS is in Johore, i won't say it to alert him of my knowledge. I'll act blur to put him off guard. And announcing the capture immediately will put all his kakis on guard too. Who knows, i could have napped all of them with their guard down.

But still, I think WKS is still a useless fuck who had NO ROLE in his capture.
 

leetahbar

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mas was already captured on l april. the news was only relayed to us recently and wks made it sound like very relunctantly and helplessly to release the news.

the question now is: WHY THE DELAY? WHAT RIGHTS HAS HE TO MAKE THE ENTIRE NATION SUFFER ANOTHER MORE MOnth OF ANXIETY AND APPREHENSION? WHY WASTED ANOTHER MONTH OF EXPENSIVE "TIGHT" SECURITY?

should this be the way of our minitoot's behaviour? this incident has created many more doubts, like what other catastrophic revelations they could be hiding from us? one very pertinent and disturbing feeling is whether our CPF saving is still around or long already gone with the wind of avaricious and foolish investment?
:confused::confused::confused:
 
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leetahbar

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inadvertently and indirectly Bob has raised an important issue that the local media and PAP government appear to be avoiding...i.e. Did Singapore play some part in any way with respect to the news leak?...this very issue appears to have been touched upon in the news conference given by the Malaysian home affairs minister, those with access to Malaysian TV station channels would understand where i am coming from...no doubt Singapore has and shall deny this allegation and speculation...but i sense it was raised in Malaysia because there maybe some concern that the Singapore side was getting impatient as to when the news could be publicly released and also when MSK could be handed over to Singapore...

the other issue that the local media and the PAP government seem to be avoiding for perhaps obvious self serving reasons is the apparent support provided by the Indos in this matter...this issue also appears to have been raised in the Malaysian media...

maybe like what was rumoured in grassroot kopitiam chats: matlanders were holding mas to bargain for some very disadvantageous "deal" with sgp gov - like insisting the construction of that ludicrous CROOKED causeway bridge. if sgp disagreed, they release mat by giving him a sampan to row back to some remote indo island to continue his big plot to bomb changi airport. hahaha!! aunties and ah peks are indeed a very imaginative and creative bunch! LOL!!:biggrin:
 
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