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Traditional inactivated virus vaccine needs to be evaluated for months ... Yet mRNA "vaccines" can be used immediately. What's the scientific rationale?


Sinovac's Covid-19 vaccine has shelf life of up to 2 years, HSA still waiting for more data​

The World Health Organisation is currently also evaluating Sinovac's vaccine, noted Associate Professor Kenneth Mak.
The World Health Organisation is currently also evaluating Sinovac's vaccine, noted Associate Professor Kenneth Mak.PHOTO: AFP
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Timothy Goh
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MAY 18, 2021, 6:07 PM SGT

SINGAPORE - The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) is still evaluating the safety and efficacy of the Sinovac vaccine and waiting for data from the manufacturer, said Associate Professor Kenneth Mak on Tuesday (May 18).

Singapore received its first shipment of Sinovac's Covid-19 vaccine on Feb 23 as part of its advance purchase agreement with the manufacturer, but it has yet to approve the jab for use here.

On Tuesday, Prof Mak, who is director of medical services at the Ministry of Health, said that while HSA waits for the outstanding information, it is continuing to do its due diligence and track how the vaccine is used in other countries.


HSA is also exploring whether the data from other countries can be used for its evaluation.

Prof Mak noted that the World Health Organisation is currently also evaluating Sinovac's vaccine, and may "very soon" decide on whether to approve the shot as part of its global programmes which provide access to vaccines around the world.

"If there is additional information that would be helpful for HSA's evaluation, HSA will liaise with these other regulatory agencies to help its process of evaluation," said Prof Mak.

He emphasised that HSA remains committed to the principle that if it does approve the shot, it will do so on the basis of assuring Singaporeans that it is safe and effective.

He added that Sinovac's vaccine has a shelf life of up to two years, and that the authorities are trying to see whether it can be used "as early as possible", provided it is approved for use here.
 
SINGAPORE - The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) is still evaluating the safety and efficacy of the Sinovac vaccine and waiting for data from the manufacturer, said Associate Professor Kenneth Mak on Tuesday (May 18).
What kind of stoopid people will say doing evaluation based on data from manufacturer ? :rolleyes: KNN some more waiting KNN this statement alone already can tell how stoopid people can be KNN same time can show how wise my uncle is:whistling: KNN those data should already been readily available and the rest and you ownself find out and do your own fucking evaluation KNN
 
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Traditional inactivated virus vaccine needs to be evaluated for months ... Yet mRNA "vaccines" can be used immediately. What's the scientific rationale?


Sinovac's Covid-19 vaccine has shelf life of up to 2 years, HSA still waiting for more data​

The World Health Organisation is currently also evaluating Sinovac's vaccine, noted Associate Professor Kenneth Mak.'s vaccine, noted Associate Professor Kenneth Mak.
The World Health Organisation is currently also evaluating Sinovac's vaccine, noted Associate Professor Kenneth Mak.PHOTO: AFP
timgoh.png

Timothy Goh
PUBLISHED
MAY 18, 2021, 6:07 PM SGT

SINGAPORE - The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) is still evaluating the safety and efficacy of the Sinovac vaccine and waiting for data from the manufacturer, said Associate Professor Kenneth Mak on Tuesday (May 18).

Singapore received its first shipment of Sinovac's Covid-19 vaccine on Feb 23 as part of its advance purchase agreement with the manufacturer, but it has yet to approve the jab for use here.

On Tuesday, Prof Mak, who is director of medical services at the Ministry of Health, said that while HSA waits for the outstanding information, it is continuing to do its due diligence and track how the vaccine is used in other countries.


HSA is also exploring whether the data from other countries can be used for its evaluation.

Prof Mak noted that the World Health Organisation is currently also evaluating Sinovac's vaccine, and may "very soon" decide on whether to approve the shot as part of its global programmes which provide access to vaccines around the world.

"If there is additional information that would be helpful for HSA's evaluation, HSA will liaise with these other regulatory agencies to help its process of evaluation," said Prof Mak.

He emphasised that HSA remains committed to the principle that if it does approve the shot, it will do so on the basis of assuring Singaporeans that it is safe and effective.

He added that Sinovac's vaccine has a shelf life of up to two years, and that the authorities are trying to see whether it can be used "as early as possible", provided it is approved for use here.
Hmmm.....good question!
 
Sinopharm has a history of sketchy clinical data. It is only right for HSA to spend more time evaluating.

Ask around. No sinkee except for Chinese chauvinists will want to get jabbed with Sinovac.

mRNA vaccines are the latest technology based on decades of research. But I guess idiots in this forum don't know the value of science. Same fools who rush to hydrochloroquine or take TCM to cure Covid.
 
Sinopharm has a history of sketchy clinical data. It is only right for HSA to spend more time evaluating.

Ask around. No sinkee except for Chinese chauvinists will want to get jabbed with Sinovac.

mRNA vaccines are the latest technology based on decades of research. But I guess idiots in this forum don't know the value of science. Same fools who rush to hydrochloroquine or take TCM to cure Covid.

Sinopharm and Sinovac are two different companies.

Sinopharm is a public company, Sinovac is a private (supposedly) company with foreign investments and assistance.

Another Tiong pharma company: CanSino Bio, is releasing its own vaccine.

Selling vaccines is very profitable indeed. Welcome to the new normal. :biggrin:

http://www.cansinotech.com/
 
What kind of stoopid people will say doing evaluation based on data from manufacturer ? :rolleyes: KNN some more waiting KNN this statement alone already can tell how stoopid people can be KNN same time can show how wise my uncle is:whistling: KNN those data should already been readily available and the rest and you ownself find out and do your own fucking evaluation KNN
FYI this is a example of how my uncle beaten ceo to a puppy if he can meet face to face with Prof mak in the presence of a large crowd KNN :whistling:
 
What kind of stoopid people will say doing evaluation based on data from manufacturer ? :rolleyes: KNN some more waiting KNN this statement alone already can tell how stoopid people can be KNN same time can show how wise my uncle is:whistling: KNN those data should already been readily available and the rest and you ownself find out and do your own fucking evaluation KNN
Some not so wise people might be thinking why cannot ask for more data and currently waiting for info my uncle say KNN don't be stoopid KNN important critical data all should already been readily available KNN if the manufacturer give you 48 96 you should write them off immediatelee KNN stoopid KNN
 
Sinopharm has a history of sketchy clinical data. It is only right for HSA to spend more time evaluating.

Ask around. No sinkee except for Chinese chauvinists will want to get jabbed with Sinovac.

mRNA vaccines are the latest technology based on decades of research. But I guess idiots in this forum don't know the value of science. Same fools who rush to hydrochloroquine or take TCM to cure Covid.
Malaysian king flew to Dubai for Sinovac. He is definitely not an idiot.
Only a true idiot would call others insulting names for practicing their option to choose and wait.
 
Sinopharm has a history of sketchy clinical data. It is only right for HSA to spend more time evaluating.

Ask around. No sinkee except for Chinese chauvinists will want to get jabbed with Sinovac.

mRNA vaccines are the latest technology based on decades of research. But I guess idiots in this forum don't know the value of science. Same fools who rush to hydrochloroquine or take TCM to cure Covid.

Mrna vaccine technology is untested. If you have no issue getting your genes biochemically altered by an experimental application then I salute you.

By the way my friends and I aren't Chinese chauvinists. We would gladly take the Sputnik vaccine any day rather than be a coal mine canary for pharma companies
 
mRNA vaccines are the latest technology based on decades of research. But I guess idiots in this forum don't know the value of science. Same fools who rush to hydrochloroquine or take TCM to cure Covid.
Granted so. But the science is not fully understood. Part of getting that scientific understanding is tesing. They have not done any long term testing and its effects.

What if one protein in the mRNA is defective? It may still work against covid but in the future may work against your own body's cells due to that one mistake.

Don't be too clever and learn from past errors.
 
Sinovac has been approved and ironically is currently the only one that I would trust despite being made by the commies and despite my not being a chink chauvinist.

This is because it uses the traditional "attenuated virus" technology that has a safety record stretching more than 70 years.
 
Sinovac has been approved and ironically is currently the only one that I would trust despite being made by the commies and despite my not being a chink chauvinist.

This is because it uses the traditional "attenuated virus" technology that has a safety record stretching more than 70 years.
U can consider Novavax. However since it's the same spike protein. Won't it b useless against the new variants whereby the spike has evolved?

Is Novavax better than Pfizer? Here's what the data tells us so far​

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A vial of the Phase 3 Novavax coronavirus vaccine
Novavax has begun its process of seeking TGA approval.( AP: Alastair Grant )
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Australia's sluggish vaccine rollout was last week thrown another curve ball, with new medical advice recommending under-50s be given the Pfizer jab.

Key points:​

  • Novavax is the third vaccine on Australia's radar, with 51 million doses expected this year
  • It's one of four COVID-19 vaccines in the TGA pipeline
  • Novavax is made using more traditional-style methods and is currently going through phase three trials in the US and Mexico
Up until that moment, most Australians were slated to receive the AstraZeneca vaccine — with 53.8 million doses already secured by the federal government.
In a scramble to protect the nation, the government secured another 20 million doses of the Pfizer candidate, but these additional jabs won't be delivered until the last quarter of this year.
But what about Novavax?
It's the third vaccine on Australia's radar, and we're expecting to receive 51 million doses this year.
So, when exactly will Novavax arrive in Australia? And how well has it been performing in clinical trials?

Firstly, how does Novavax work?​

SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes COVID-19 disease, has spike proteins.
Pfizer, AstraZeneca and Novavax vaccines all work by training the immune system to recognise and fight these spike proteins, but they each use different technologies to do this.
Unlike the Pfizer and AstraZenenca vaccines, the Novavax vaccine contains exactly the same spike protein as the virus.
Professor Khanna says to make the Novavax vaccine, the genetic sequence of the spike protein in SARS-CoV-2 is used to produce spike protein in cells in the laboratory.
The protein is then collected, concentrated, purified and mixed with other chemicals to make sure the body's immune system mounts a strong response.
Professor Khanna says in his opinion, this approach is the "safest way of making a vaccine".
Similar to the AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines, Novavax also needs two doses.

Novavax's phase three trials​

The vaccine has already been through phase three trials in the UK, showing an efficacy rate of 89.3 per cent in more than 15,000 participants.
By comparison, Pfizer is 95 per cent effective at preventing COVID-19 symptoms, while AstraZeneca's efficacy ranges between 62 and 90 per cent (although data suggests a 12-week wait between doses could give an efficacy of about 82 per cent).
However, a separate trial of Novavax in South Africa (where the more infectious B.1.351 variant of the virus is circulating), showed the vaccine had an efficacy rate of only 49.4 per cent in 4,400 people (including HIV-positive and negative participants).
Vaccines can be less effective in people living with HIV and others who are immunocompromised and they often need extra doses of some vaccines to optimise protection.
In the South African trial, Novavax was found to have a 60 per cent efficacy rate in the HIV-negative group.
Similar to Novavax, neither Pfizer nor AstraZeneca perform as well against the South African B.1.351 variant as they do against other currently circulating variants.
Novavax's phase three trials in the US and Mexico are ongoing, and more data about the vaccine's efficacy rate is expected to be released soon.
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Scott Morrison abandons vaccination targets after limits are put on the rollout of AstraZeneca(Marty McCarthy)

Where to next for Novavax?​

Before a COVID-19 vaccine is approved by Australia's regulator, it has to go through six phases, including evaluation.
Four different vaccines have cleared the first hurdle: Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson, and Novavax.
Novavax has now begun its submission to Australia's regulator, putting it at the second phase in the application process.
A spokeswoman for Novavax Inc said it would apply for approval with the UK's regulator as early as this month, and then seek approval with the European Medicines Agency.
This means Novavax is expected to be available overseas before being approved in Australia.
Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences professor of pharmaceutical biology Colin Pouton said other countries were being offered the Novavax vaccine first because they had invested in the development of the vaccine.
"Australia is just a customer," he said.

When will Novavax be available in Australia?​

Australia has an agreement for 51 million doses of Novavax originally slated for "mid-2021", but that target has now been pushed back until later this year.
Before it can be offered to Australians, more positive phase three trial results are required, and then the TGA needs to review the data before authorising use of the vaccine.
A spokeswoman on behalf of Australia's Department of Health says if these boxes are ticked, the first doses of Novavax can be expected to arrive in Australia in the third quarter of this year.
That means July, August or September — but we don't have an exact date.
And we don't know how many doses of the vaccine will be included in the first shipment.
There have also been some issues sourcing key production materials to make the vaccine, including single-use bags used to grow vaccine cells.
Professor Khanna is neither surprised, nor alarmed, by the reported shortages.
"When you start producing [vaccines] at a scale of millions and millions and millions, I mean, small scale is fine, but whenever manufacturing is required at that scale, there will always be a challenge," he said.
"Whether that be the packaging or the supply chain."

What vaccines does the US have?​

In the US, three vaccines have been authorised to prevent COVID-19 — Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson (although the Johnson & Johnson rollout has been paused while authorities investigate a small number of rare blood clots in people who have been vaccinated).
Out of these three candidates, Australia has only struck a deal with Pfizer.
Play Video. Duration: 1 minute 58 seconds
Scott Morrison backs down from October vaccine targets
Professor Pouton says Pfizer and Moderna show essentially the same degree of efficacy after two doses (Pfizer at 95 per cent and Moderna at 94.1 per cent) at protecting against COVID-19 symptoms.
They both use messenger RNA (mRNA) which, until recently, had not been approved for use in a human vaccine.
But why did Australia back Pfizer, but not Moderna?
Professor Pouton said the answer came down to availability — or lack thereof.
He said Moderna's development was "substantially bankrolled by the US Government", which meant the US had first dibs on the vaccines as they were rolled out.
Professor Khanna said the move made logistical sense.
"If you're standing 10 people in a queue and the other queue is shorter, you always jump to the other cue," he said.
Although the rollout of the Johnson & Johnson has now been paused in the US, the TGA could — theoretically — still approve its use in Australia, if regulators decide the benefits of the vaccine outweighed the risks.
If this happens Australians with a prescription may still be able to get it privately, even if the government doesn't buy it.

What's next for Australia?​

Professor Pouton said one future option for Australia was to manufacture more vaccines here.
The ABC understands Novavax has been in early-stage talks with Australia's biopharmaceutical sector to explore options to outsource some of its supply locally.
And vaccine experts say Australia has the potential to make mRNA vaccines such as Pfizer on home soil — although it will take time and investment to ramp up domestic manufacturing capabilities.
Professor Khanna said people shouldn't be panicking about vaccine availability in Australia, given the country's small caseload of COVID-19 disease, unburdened hospitals, and lack of virus circulating in the community.
"I would suggest people calm down," he said.
"We just have to keep patient … these are difficult things to manage when you have to organise vaccines for millions of people."
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Sinovac has been approved and ironically is currently the only one that I would trust despite being made by the commies and despite my not being a chink chauvinist.

This is because it uses the traditional "attenuated virus" technology that has a safety record stretching more than 70 years.

the problem with sinovac is it's less effective at preventing infection, only in the 60 or 70+% success range iirc. although it is successful at reducing severe symptoms for those who do get infected.

maybe it's political and to do with the pending vaccine passports for travel. Gov will look bad if they give out sinovac vaccines but it's denied recognition for the vaccine passports.
 
the problem with sinovac is it's less effective at preventing infection, only in the 60 or 70+% success range iirc. although it is successful at reducing severe symptoms for those who do get infected.

maybe it's political and to do with the pending vaccine passports for travel. Gov will look bad if they give out sinovac vaccines but it's denied recognition for the vaccine passports.
Govt give u free of course choose the more expensive one lah silly. :geek:
 
Singapore's Temasek Buys Stake Worth $3.5 Billion in BlackRock. (Bloomberg) -- Singapore's Temasek Holdings Pte. has become one of the largest shareholders of BlackRock Inc. after it added a 3.9% stake in the money manager that's worth about $3.5 billion.

BlackRock owns Pfizer, a George Soros-owned company. Bill Gates is also shareholder of Pfizer.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/singapo...asek Holdings,that's worth about $3.5 billion.
 
Breaking news: now old farts do not need to make an appointment for vaccination. Just need to walk-in. :biggrin:



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Breaking news: now old farts do not need to make an appointment for vaccination. Just need to walk-in. :biggrin:



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Better not. You mati they say your thirty minutes up, no paper trail proof. :unsure:
 
Breaking news: now old farts do not need to make an appointment for vaccination. Just need to walk-in. :biggrin:



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Malusial and China the people fought like 'people mountain people sea', just to get to the front queue to be vaccinated. Here if you're not mobile just gib a call and a doctor and a nurse will come and jab you lol............

Begging you all 280k boomers (including me .. :P ) who have not yet to come forward. /rofl.........
 
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