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Why are our talented young people doing well elsewhere but not in Sg?

Cosmos10

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This Singaporean entrepreneur funded his way into Harvard and a new startup in the US


Link: https://www.techinasia.com/desmond-lim-quikforce-profile

By Michael Tegos 10:40 AM on Dec 15, 2015


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Photo credit: Matthew W. Jackson


There’s no doubt in anyone’s mind about Singapore being an excellent place to start a business. Stable politically as well as financially, rich in investment and support, and an easy place to set up an enterprise, it sounds like an entrepreneur’s paradise. But for some Singaporeans, it’s not the promised land of entrepreneurship. The original land of promise, the United States, still beckons with its siren’s call.

The call was irresistible for Desmond Lim. The Singaporean entrepreneur moved to the US to complete a master’s degree in public policy, business, and government at Harvard University. He also worked at the MIT Media Lab for a while until earlier this year. “I really wanted to come to the US for school because I felt there was so much more to learn,” he tells Tech in Asia. “I think Singapore is great, I learned so much there, but I feel it’s small – there’s so much more to learn in the world.”

Unlike a lot of his peers, Desmond didn’t choose Silicon Valley for his next step. While living in Boston, he founded a new startup called Quikforce. It connects users to moving companies, allowing them to get the entire process of a move done through the site. It also implemented a software-as-a-service solution for movers that was warmly received by them. The startup is working with more than 50 movers in Boston and recently expanded to Miami. Desmond says it has so far generated more than US$50,000 in revenue and has facilitated over 100 moves.

Quikforce was named after his father’s one-van operation back in Singapore. “My father has been a mover for the past 35 years,” he says. “Both my parents barely finished school, and they don’t know how to use technology to do their job well. That’s why I wanted Quikforce to help people like my dad to do their job better.” In August, Desmond pitched Quikforce at TechCrunch’s NYC Meetup + Pitch-Off in New York, the only startup by an Asian founder there.


College on no money

Desmond knows a bit about enterprise. After finishing high school in Singapore, his family told him they couldn’t afford to send him to university. So he decided to work part-time tutoring other students. It wasn’t long before he surpassed the 35-student mark – the next step was to make money by matching them to other tutors. He did that for two years and made enough to fund his studies.


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While studying business and finance at Singapore Management University (SMU), Desmond started a Thai restaurant. He ran the 70-seater with a crew of 10 to 15 people for three years before selling it during his senior year. Following that, he ran a business importing clothes from Thailand and China to Singapore. In the middle of all that, he became the first person in his family to get a university degree.

Back in 2007, as part of a school trip with SMU, he visited various tech companies in Silicon Valley, including Google and Apple. “I held the first iPhone in my hands when it wasn’t even out yet,” he says excitedly. After graduation and a short stint at Merrill Lynch in Singapore, the way pointed across the Pacific.


Different strokes


The US was attractive for a lot of reasons, according to Desmond, not least the potential market size for a business. “Even if I had a tech business that was doing really well [in Singapore], how would I scale it?” he wonders. Of course it’s not like other companies haven’t been able to do it – GrabTaxi co-founder Anthony Tan, whom Desmond knew at Harvard, has done a pretty good job of scaling his company in the region. But taking a company from Singapore and growing it beyond, in different markets, with different languages and cultures, is a considerable challenge, Desmond believes.

On the flipside, the US is a huge market with not that many differences from state to state. Quikforce has recently expanded to Miami and Desmond says he is approached by people from cities like Chicago, Philadelphia, and even New York to expand there. Not that it’s all roses – what differences there are can sometimes be as challenging. “Every state has its own laws and its own quirks,” he says.

For example, even the time of year people move can make an impact on a business trying to work with movers in different cities. In Boston, there’s a surge of moving during the summer as students move into town to attend one of its prestigious universities. New York, on the other hand, has people moving in and out all year round, but due to real estate being limited, sometimes moves are booked very last-minute. “I think as I scale, that will be one of my so-called barriers to growth,” Desmond explains.


Quikforce founder, Desmond Lim.

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The much-bemoaned shortage of developer talent in Singapore is another minus for the city-state. It has been the talk of the town this past year, highlighted by Compass’ Startup Ecosystem Ranking 2015 report in the summer. On the contrary, in Boston a startup has access to talent coming straight out of Harvard, MIT, and Boston University. Boston itself is no Silicon Valley in terms of its startup industry or – importantly – funding, but there are still plenty of resources available to founders.

Desmond also feels a company benefits from the difference in cultures between the East and West. “I think people in the US are very direct – if they think your idea sucks, they will tell you straight,” he says. This has allowed him to move and grow faster, he explains – being nice to everyone all the time isn’t always the best way to run a company.

“It’s not easy to integrate in the ecosystem here, but I’ve worked very hard,” he adds. “The US is still fairly open to foreigners culture-wise, but I do feel that in terms of Asian entrepreneurs in the US, we are still very few.” Desmond names Razer founder Min-Liang Tan, who happened to be his senior at the same Singapore high school, as an inspiration when it comes to Singaporeans finding success with their business abroad.


Homecoming

Starting a company in Singapore is a lot easier and speedier than in the US, even for a foreigner, Desmond admits. Aside from the visa troubles, the whole process in the States is a lot more complicated. It took several months for Desmond to incorporate Quikforce, while in Singapore he had businesses up and running in 24 hours. Still, the pros seem to outweigh the cons at the moment.


Harvard Innovation Lab

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Harvard Innovation Lab, where Quikforce was founded. Photo credit: Harvard Innovation Lab

Desmond would consider bringing his latest company to Singapore at some point, though. “I’m talking to a few people back home and also in Hong Kong about how we could possibly either grow there or move,” he says.

For now he’s more interested in building a solid base for the company in the US.

The important thing, he points out, is that he’s invested in this company for the long haul. “I’ve had so much fun during the past year doing this. I can see myself in it for the next five to 10 years.”
 

Scrooball (clone)

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>The startup is working with more than 50 movers in Boston and recently expanded to Miami. Desmond says it has so far generated more than US$50,000 in revenue and has facilitated over 100 moves.<<


US$50,000 is not alot.
 

Reddog

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It is prudent for all talented Singaporeans to leave Singapore as and when the opportunity beckons. There really is no future for Singapore under the pap ... Only good for the regime and their cronies.
 

Cosmos10

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It is prudent for all talented Singaporeans to leave Singapore as and when the opportunity beckons. There really is no future for Singapore under the pap ... Only good for the regime and their cronies.

Agree with you, bro.

Imagine, our own government ignores our own TRUE BLUE Singaporeans and gives scholarships to rejects from other countries.

The admirable thing about Desmond is he funded himself in Harvard and not through our PSC scholarships.
 

tonychat

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It is prudent for all talented Singaporeans to leave Singapore as and when the opportunity beckons. There really is no future for Singapore under the pap ... Only good for the regime and their cronies.

Yup..i will be starting another business.. This time for the Thais... Wish me luck..
 

mojito

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Mosmos, u r back! No sad ok, ruru still young can try again in 2020. My circle not large, but serial entreprenuers give me a strange vibe. He got balls, i give him that, but not very focused? Find steady corporate work become bd director better for him maybe? Sometimes i do worry about the state of affairs among the young.
 

tonychat

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Mosmos, u r back! No sad ok, ruru still young can try again in 2020. My circle not large, but serial entreprenuers give me a strange vibe. He got balls, i give him that, but not very focused? Find steady corporate work become bd director better for him maybe? Sometimes i do worry about the state of affairs among the young.

This is a serious case of an IMH.
 

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Harvard Innovation Lab

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Harvard Innovation Lab, where Quikforce was founded. Photo credit: Harvard Innovation Lab

Desmond would consider bringing his latest company to Singapore at some point, though. “I’m talking to a few people back home and also in Hong Kong about how we could possibly either grow there or move,” he says.

For now he’s more interested in building a solid base for the company in the US.

The important thing, he points out, is that he’s invested in this company for the long haul. “I’ve had so much fun during the past year doing this. I can see myself in it for the next five to 10 years.”



I love it when Singaporeans go oversea and strive out a business for themselves..

Do not, i repeat, Do Not invest in sinkieland.. It is not worth it at all.. the PAP govt will suck you dry before your business can take off.. and if it is a new innovative idea, they will copy your idea and say that it is their own.

Never, never invest in sinkieland and let the ball-less sinkie fucks rot and dry to death. Go Hong Kong instead.
 

frenchbriefs

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>The startup is working with more than 50 movers in Boston and recently expanded to Miami. Desmond says it has so far generated more than US$50,000 in revenue and has facilitated over 100 moves.<<


US$50,000 is not alot.

yeah 50k revenue wtf is that?iv seen family startups on shark tank and dragons den with 5 to 10 times more revenue than that.
 

syed putra

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at the age when desmond was busy making money as tutor, restaurant and other businesses to fund his american studies, i was wasted my life away in the pubs.
 

mojito

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I love it when Singaporeans go oversea and strive out a business for themselves..

Do not, i repeat, Do Not invest in sinkieland.. It is not worth it at all.. the PAP govt will suck you dry before your business can take off.. and if it is a new innovative idea, they will copy your idea and say that it is their own.

Never, never invest in sinkieland and let the ball-less sinkie fucks rot and dry to death. Go Hong Kong instead.

Sg only bad for business when you got no friends! Or useless friends, which is worse than having no friends. Pull a few strings here and there, and the deal is done. Used to be sinkies call the shots. Nowadays more and more is the FTs. You want more business? Volunteer grassroots lah. So simple you dunno? :rolleyes:
 

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>The startup is working with more than 50 movers in Boston and recently expanded to Miami. Desmond says it has so far generated more than US$50,000 in revenue and has facilitated over 100 moves.<<


US$50,000 is not alot.

$50,000 USD can buy new BMW 3 series in the US. Singapore can or not? Talk like shit. Its only the beginning for him. Boston is just a test market for his software, once he spreads to to other cities, and go IPO, he will be worth millions. Uber started that way too.
 
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Papsmearer

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I love it when Singaporeans go oversea and strive out a business for themselves..

Do not, i repeat, Do Not invest in sinkieland.. It is not worth it at all.. the PAP govt will suck you dry before your business can take off.. and if it is a new innovative idea, they will copy your idea and say that it is their own.

Never, never invest in sinkieland and let the ball-less sinkie fucks rot and dry to death. Go Hong Kong instead.

Thank god this guy flew under the PAP radar. Or else, he would have been bribed or enticed to go for a SAF, Presidents or PSC scholar, and be brain dead by age 30, like Kee Chiu and so many others.
 

frenchbriefs

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$50,000 USD can buy new BMW 3 series in the US. Singapore can or not? Talk like shit. Its only the beginning for him. Boston is just a test market for his software, once he spreads to to other cities, and go IPO, he will be worth millions. Uber started that way too.

$50,000 revenue not profit.u can have millions or billions of revenue and still be losing money.the biggest nightmare a person can have is to discover his business is expanding quickly 50 percent year on year,sales and revenue are reaching 1 million this year and he is not making a singe dollar.

and 50k revenue which already means nothing is pitiful,no businessman or entrepreneur will get out of bed for 50k revenue.its worst than a small home business owner or a ebay seller.

Revenue is vanity, profit is sanity, cash flow is reality.

this guy make money for his university degree by whoring as a tutor and whoring out his tutees.then he starts a moving service just because his father is a delivery van owner.just another chip off the block following in his fathers footsteps....doomed to be another
 
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The US has a largely homogeneous market of hundreds of millions of people.

Singapore has only a 3 million.

It is therefore very difficult to scale a successful concept in Singapore.

Talented Kiwis end up in the US too in order to achieve their full potential.
 

johnny333

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The US has a largely homogeneous market of hundreds of millions of people.

Singapore has only a 3 million.

It is therefore very difficult to scale a successful concept in Singapore.

Talented Kiwis end up in the US too in order to achieve their full potential.


Sporeans are also hampered by having to compete with the PAP & their cronies in business. How do you compete with the PAP, they have the resources, & connections.
 

JohnTan

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Talented sinkies are doing very well in Singapore. This is one of the nominees for Sinkie of the Year 2015. Looks like a sinkie may well end up as the real-life Tony Stark. Not bad for a sinkie who was educated entirely in Singapore and followed the government advice to venture abroad to gain some experience.

Don't you read the Straits Times? You really should, instead of spending too much time on unreliable social media news that is forever running down Singapore and publishing anti-Singapore news.

Mr Peter Ho believes in "super soldiers". They may sound like the stuff of Hollywood movies such as The Avengers, but the co-founder of start-up Hope Technik is not being ingenuous.

The home-grown company specialises in high-performance engineering for the military, motorsport and biomedical industries.

A jaunt through its Penjuru Close workshop yielded glimpses of exoskeletons, such as mechanical limbs that Mr Ho said would allow "a skinny guy like me to lift four people with one hand".

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These exoskeletons could enable a shipyard worker to carry otherwise-impossible loads, or a nurse to lift elderly patients from wheelchairs to hospital beds.

"2016 is going to see the rise of the exoskeletons," said Mr Ho, 37.

If life at Hope Technik sounds like the titles of blockbuster science fiction movies, it is because, Mr Ho believes, films predict the technology trends of the future.

"Five to 10 years ago, we had all these movies with drones, like Transformers. Then suddenly, drones proliferated across the world," he said.

"Recently, pop culture has been about movies like Iron Man, Edge Of Tomorrow and Elysium, where the heroes used exoskeletons to be more powerful. Now, we're looking at this becoming the next cutting edge of technology."

In many of these films, ordinary humans are transformed by machinery into super soldiers. Likewise, Mr Ho sees technology as the way to transform tiny Singapore into something far greater than its natural capacity allows.

He said: "We are a little country. We don't have natural resources. We have one of the fastest-ageing populations in the world. We're trying to grow an economy with a shrinking labour force.

"These are real problems that we need to turn to innovation and value creation to solve. It's damn tough, but we need to try."

Nine years ago, he was living life in the fast lane as a jet-setting race car engineer, but he chose to give that up, and the five-figure monthly salary, to stay put in Singapore.

"I would spend months living out of a suitcase," he recalled. "It just wasn't home. Also, I missed chicken rice."

In 2006, he and three former National University of Singapore classmates - Mr Michael Leong, Mr Ng Kiang Loong and Mr Jeff Tang - founded Hope Technik with $10,000. Asked where they got the money, Mr Ho said: "The ATM. We each took out $2,500 in cash. That was all we had."

The young firm struggled at first to find its footing. Mr Ho did not draw a salary for 15 months and racked up hefty debts. "It was a long, painful road," he said.

Nearly a decade later, Hope Technik has grown to employ 100 staff, has delivered 350 contracts to 18 countries and is planning to start an overseas subsidiary next year.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/engineer-racing-to-put-singapore-on-the-tech-map
 
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