Which is the most significant dialect group in china and is there a ranking?

[Cruxx]

Re: Hock Chew

View attachment 2683 this guy?

This guy

 

[GoldenDragon]

Re: Hock Chew

I would say more handsome than Yam Ah Mee at least

More handsome than Uncle Yap and GMS too.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Re: Hock Chew

your looks like this considered handsome ???

T-shirt with tailored pants? Obiang bo? Should have put on white socks to enhance the obiang level. T-shirts never goes well with tailored pants.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Hock Chew

Sure do, but I keep it trimmed short and neat. Not to the extent of crew cut, but just short and neat.

Wah!!!!! doing a fantastic job there sonny boy.wow trimmed and neat i'm sure the principal won't be calling you to his office any time soon.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Hock Chew

View attachment 2683 this guy?

OMG MY jeezus!!!!!!!! Does that guy have lipstick on?

 

[HedgeTrader]

Re: Hock Chew

T-shirt with tailored pants? Obiang bo? Should have put on white socks to enhance the obiang level. T-shirts never goes well with tailored pants.

I think he boh pian cause thats cheapo WP uniform T in WP event. The pants and shoes look nice though. At least Clarks I think. If wear white socks become look like Michael Jackson LOL

The uncle beside him CMI. Look agged jeans and moldy track shoes and even more obiang belt LOL

 

[Ramseth]

Re: Hock Chew

hell yeah!!!!!

Without the injection and disemination of Teochew blood and genes, Thais today would look somewhere between Pinoy maids and Borneo orang asli. Even the Thai royal family is half Teochew. The Shinawatra family is not Teochew though, they're from Yunnan. They have Chinese surname too, it's 郑。

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

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Without the injection and disemination of Teochew blood and genes, Thais today would look somewhere between Pinoy maids and Borneo orang asli. Even the Thai royal family is half Teochew. The Shinawatra family is not Teochew though, they're from Yunnan. They have Chinese surname too, it's 郑。

Are u sure it's just the teochew influencing the entire thailand? I read that shinawatra have hakka in them. I read an article before how thaksin visited his ancestral home in china and they held some banquet for him. It mentioned that he's 1/8 chinese hakka i think. Yet he looks so chinese.


Anyway i'm still kind of pissed off with some of these thais that want to forgo their chinese heritage. Typical of some chinese that love to be dogs.

Btw i read that the thais originated from china as in they were some tribe from yunan. There's en ethnic group called the dai residing in china that are the ancestors of the thai ppl. What i'm saying is that your claims that it was the teochew ppl that made the thais look more chinese probably isn't that correct. I suppose teochew ppl did influence the thais but probably only in the bkk area and certain areas but since the thais originated from some tribe in yunan these ppl had chinese looks just like how tibetians look like chinese ppl and the slowly conquered more lands. As they conquered more land throughout the ages the ppl living in those lands took up their culture and language and thus became thai ppl.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Re: Hock Chew

Are u sure it's just the teochew influencing the entire thailand? I read that shinawatra have hakka in them. I read an article before how thaksin visited his ancestral home in china and they held some banquet for him. It mentioned that he's 1/8 chinese hakka i think. Yet he looks so chinese.


Anyway i'm still kind of pissed off with some of these thais that want to forgo their chinese heritage. Typical of some chinese that love to be dogs.

Btw i read that the thais originated from china as in they were some tribe from yunan. There's en ethnic group called the dai residing in china that are the ancestors of the thai ppl. What i'm saying is that your claims that it was the teochew ppl that made the thais look more chinese probably isn't that correct. I suppose teochew ppl did influence the thais but probably only in the bkk area and certain areas but since the thais originated from some tribe in yunan these ppl had chinese looks just like how tibetians look like chinese ppl and the slowly conquered more lands. As they conquered more land throughout the ages the ppl living in those lands took up their culture and language and thus became thai ppl.

Before the Dais came to now Thailand, the Mons and Khmer were already there. So Thais are of a mixture of Dai, Mon and Khmer bloodline.

 

[Ramseth]

Re: Hock Chew

Are u sure it's just the teochew influencing the entire thailand? I read that shinawatra have hakka in them. I read an article before how thaksin visited his ancestral home in china and they held some banquet for him. It mentioned that he's 1/8 chinese hakka i think. Yet he looks so chinese.


Anyway i'm still kind of pissed off with some of these thais that want to forgo their chinese heritage. Typical of some chinese that love to be dogs.

Btw i read that the thais originated from china as in they were some tribe from yunan. There's en ethnic group called the dai residing in china that are the ancestors of the thai ppl. What i'm saying is that your claims that it was the teochew ppl that made the thais look more chinese probably isn't that correct. I suppose teochew ppl did influence the thais but probably only in the bkk area and certain areas but since the thais originated from some tribe in yunan these ppl had chinese looks just like how tibetians look like chinese ppl and the slowly conquered more lands. As they conquered more land throughout the ages the ppl living in those lands took up their culture and language and thus became thai ppl.

Yes, Shinawatra family was from Yunnan Hakka. The other major Hakka clan was of course in the Canton and HK region. Hakka means guests or nomads. Most of Bangkok and its metropolis with any Chinese blood are >90% Teochew related since the ancient days of foundation of kingdom. If you watch Thai TV or movie or even advertisement, no brown skin is allowed play starring roles, whether male or female lead. All starring actors must have fair complexion. Malay polynesian skin tone can play supporting roles like maids, drivers etc. The only way for a dark skinned Thai man to stand in limelight is via Muay Thai.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

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Yes, Shinawatra family was from Yunnan Hakka. The other major Hakka clan was of course in the Canton and HK region. Hakka means guests or nomads. Most of Bangkok and its metropolis with any Chinese blood are >90% Teochew related since the ancient days of foundation of kingdom. If you watch Thai TV or movie or even advertisement, no brown skin is allowed play starring roles, whether male or female lead. All starring actors must have fair complexion. Malay polynesian skin tone can play supporting roles like maids, drivers etc. The only way for a dark skinned Thai man to stand in limelight is via Muay Thai.

I'm not really sure about that. For the females i think mostly are fair but i think there are dark skinned males. The thing is most of the thai movies i have seen throughout the ages the thai ppl especially the males have that malay tanned type of look. I cannot recall any thai male star that looks kind of chinese. Ok mtv vj utt is half chinese but what makes him stand up is cos he looks mixed luk krang i think that's what they're called.

Btw is it true that the dark skinned thais tend to be the better ones in muay thai? Just last month bua kow defeated some black man in a k1 match. I have some issan frens and they are big fans of him.

 

[Froggy]

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Yes, Shinawatra family was from Yunnan Hakka. The other major Hakka clan was of course in the Canton and HK region. Hakka means guests or nomads. Most of Bangkok and its metropolis with any Chinese blood are >90% Teochew related since the ancient days of foundation of kingdom. If you watch Thai TV or movie or even advertisement, no brown skin is allowed play starring roles, whether male or female lead. All starring actors must have fair complexion. Malay polynesian skin tone can play supporting roles like maids, drivers etc. The only way for a dark skinned Thai man to stand in limelight is via Muay Thai.

Benz Pornchita my favourite superstar is very dark what

 

[Froggy]

She is dark but her face very Thai. Beautiful.

 

[Ramseth]

Fair or dark is not standard set by me. Watch Thai TV. It's their standard.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

One thing i noticed most thai ladies love to apply some sort of make up to their face to make them ghastly white.

 

[Fook Seng]

Without the injection and disemination of Teochew blood and genes, Thais today would look somewhere between Pinoy maids and Borneo orang asli. Even the Thai royal family is half Teochew. The Shinawatra family is not Teochew though, they're from Yunnan. They have Chinese surname too, it's 郑。

If Shinawatra's surname is 郑, then it is likely to be related to King Thaksin somewhat as King of Chonburi's also had the surname 郑 from his father. Forget about Teochew or Yunnan as they all came into Thailand through that part of China. Probably at certain time in the past, there was a large migration of Teochew in that part of Northern Thailand. It could also be how Thaksin Shinawatra got his name and why some opportunists managed to stoke animosity between he and the King.

 

[Fook Seng]

Are u sure it's just the teochew influencing the entire thailand? I read that shinawatra have hakka in them. I read an article before how thaksin visited his ancestral home in china and they held some banquet for him. It mentioned that he's 1/8 chinese hakka i think. Yet he looks so chinese./QUOTE]

One point to consider is that Hakka people in the past had the habit of adopting the surname of the clan they were attached to i.e. if you were working for a family for a generation, your next generation would adopt the surname of that family.

 

[Fook Seng]

I'm not really sure about that. For the females i think mostly are fair but i think there are dark skinned males. The thing is most of the thai movies i have seen throughout the ages the thai ppl especially the males have that malay tanned type of look.

I hope you are not referring to Yul Brynner as his tan is faked. Joking.

 

[Ramseth]

One point to consider is that Hakka people in the past had the habit of adopting the surname of the clan they were attached to i.e. if you were working for a family for a generation, your next generation would adopt the surname of that family.

Good observation. Most Hakka changed to Thai surnames. In fact, there're no such thing as Thai surnames linguistically speaking. These are Pali surnames. Somewhere between Nepalese and Sri Lankan but adopted as Thai. For Chinese immigrants who were naturalized and accepted as Thais but wishing to keep their Chinese surnames, there's no problem also. Just add the prefix Sae- to the Chinese surname so that it conforms with the the Thai language.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Thaksin's Chinese surname was 丘。
Sae means 姓.....thai chinese are well assimilated nowadays and most adopted thai surnames....