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What will keep the peace between Israel and the Arabs is not treaties

syed putra

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Jordan has a lot of palestinians, but is not a palestinian country. The Jordan king in the 1970s, with the assistance of the porkistani army, slaughtered over 20,000 arab palestinians who tried to steal his kingdom.
There was no such kingdom 100 years, ago.
 

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Killing a woman's entire family and taking her for himself is just plain wrong. You're just saying it's ok simply because mahomet is your so-called 'prophet'.
My words will not do justice to the facts. Let the scholars research tell the story:

https://www.alhakam.org/islam-today...uyayy-into-marriage-after-killing-her-father/

Condensed, the father's family was a backstabber.
Was given choice to go into exile or be given mercy. But they opted death as per torah's punishment for said crime.
 

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Brig. Gen. Omer Tishler, the Israel Air Force’s chief of staff, says fighter jets are striking the Gaza Strip on an “unprecedented scale.”

“We are attacking the Gaza Strip on an unprecedented scale, because what happened here is something that has never happened before. There is an enemy here firing rockets, raiding a civilian population,” Tishler says in a call with reporters.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...s-its-hitting-gaza-on-an-unprecedented-scale/
 

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long term plan - Hamas want to kill every Jew and every Christian – and take control of the ‘entire 510 million sq. kilometers of Planet Earth.’ If you think what is happening in Israel is limited to Israel, think again.

 

syed putra

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That doesn't stop moslems from acknowledging the Jordan monarchy as legit rulers of Jordan. As long as islam is perceived to benefit, moslems are ok with it.
The arab wanted a unified secular state but British and France split them into a dozen countries and mini states.
 

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Quid pro quo. The Jews and Arabs deserve one another.

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'Let the People of Israel Enter the Gates and Kill Arabs'

Racist violence has erupted following terrorist attacks in the past, but this time it seems that the Jewish mob which took to the streets was accepted by Jerusalemites with understanding, if not downright approval.

Nir Hasson
Oct 4, 2015

Just like after every other terror attack in recent years, young Jews vented their anger with racist violence for several hours, attacking

https://www.haaretz.com/2015-10-04/...ll-arabs/0000017f-e4a1-d75c-a7ff-fcad755c0000
 

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The arab wanted a unified secular state but British and France split them into a dozen countries and mini states.
Divide and conquer. Just like how Muslims and Hindus have been living peacefully for centuries before Partition resulted in a heinous tragedy causing the deaths of millions.
 

syed putra

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Divide and conquer. Just like how Muslims and Hindus have been living peacefully for centuries before Partition resulted in a heinous tragedy causing the deaths of millions.
I am not sure about this. I believe they were in a state of perpetual war.
Even Hindus were fighting Hindus and Buddhist before Muslims conquered them
The hindu cholas attacked buddhist shailendras who retreated to Sri lanka and sri vijaya in South East Asia.
 

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The arab wanted a unified secular state but British and France split them into a dozen countries and mini states.

You sure the arabs wanted a unified state? The various leaders of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, etc, are all happy to be independent states
 

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Even mudslimes don't help mudslimes

Egypt reportedly rejects safe corridor for refugees fleeing Gaza, but in talks to provide humanitarian aid
The Egypt-Gaza border is the only land border in the Gaza Strip not controlled by Israel.

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Egypt has resisted calls for the establishment of a humanitarian safe corridor on its border with the Gaza Strip, but is likely to assist in providing humanitarian aid to Gaza.

No corridor
On Oct 12, Reuters reported that Egypt was resisting setting up humanitarian safe corridors, citing the right of Palestinians to "hold on to their cause and their land", citing security sources.

This is despite calls from international bodies such as the United Nations, non-governmental organisations, and even the United States to establish safe passage for civilians from Gaza.

Bloomberg cited Egyptian sources saying that the country is reluctant to let in "sizeable numbers" of refugees, citing fears that it would lead to a renewal of the idea of resettling Palestinians in the Sinai Peninsular region of Egypt.

This comes as Israel has established a "complete siege" around the Gaza Strip, which involves closing off all land borders between Israel and Gaza.

Israel has also cut off electricity, water, fuel, and food supplies to the territory.

Meanwhile the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), continue to conduct airstrikes on targets in Gaza, with mounting casualties.

Al Jazeera reported that as of Oct. 12, the death toll stands at least 1,228 Palestinians and over 1,300 in Israel.

Negotiations
The Washington Post reports that there is significant resistance within Egypt to the idea of opening the Rafah border crossing.

Rafah is the only land border not controlled by Israel, but is itself subject to tight control by the Egyptian government.

The history of the border crossing is almost as complicated as the history of the Gaza conflict itself, as reported by Al Jazeera in April 2022.

This was especially true after the 2000s, when the Palestinian Authority, whose control of Gaza was recognised by Israel, was first ousted electorally, then militarily by the militant group Hamas, who has controlled Gaza ever since.

Hamas has been in regular conflict with Israel ever since, but also has a difficult relationship with Egypt's government, particularly its military.

Hamas is aligned with Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, who briefly held power in 2013 before it was removed in a coup by the Egyptian military.

While Egypt has voiced support for the plight of the Palestinian people, it also closely controls the border crossing and has backed Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip since 2007.

This has resulted in Palestinian groups resorting to digging long tunnels under the border, which is used to smuggle in weapons, but also for essential items.

Humanitarian aid likely, accepting refugees less likely
Late on Oct. 11 (Oct. 12 Singapore time), United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said in a statement that Egypt had engaged constructively in facilitating humanitarian access through the Rafah border crossing.

He also thanked Egypt for making the El Arish airport available for "critical assistance".

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi is "intensifying efforts" to contain the situation in Gaza, Reuters reported, citing Egyptian security sources. Egypt is in talks with Qatar, Turkey and the U.S. to deliver humanitarian aid into Gaza via the Rafah crossing under a geographically-limited ceasefire.

On Oct. 12 (Singapore time), the Washington Post quoted Jeremy Hopkins, UNICEF's Egypt representative, who said that the agency was working on the understanding that a "limited humanitarian corridor" will be open soon. However, it is unclear if Egypt is willing to accept a large influx of refugees.

No agreement on safe corridor so far
The Washington Post also reported that U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is travelling to Israel to meet with its government, recently re-formed as a unity government.

Asked about the possibility of allowing civilians to travel from Gaza into Egypt to escape the violence, Blinken said that the situation was "complicated".

During a press conference held at the White House on Oct. 11, National Security Council Coordinator for Strategic Communications John Kirby took questions on the possible humanitarian corridor.

Kirby said that the U.S. was actively discussing the potential corridor with both Egypt and Israel, but that there was no agreement to announce.

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