Chitchat What will happen if govt announced a 1 month complete full lockdown to combat COVID19?

[nayr69sg]

So wat if 80% of the popn is infected? Will all of them die? So wat the big deal?

If you look at the larger picture I agree totally now that we have more robust data to support this.

Singapore should not have implemented circuit breaker in the first place. Continue with the contact tracing and have mandatory mask but no need fo shutdown.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Easy for you to say things like let your family member die what value are they to you when you are not facing eg re election.

Similarly no doctor without indemnity would say such things Salma Khalik would be all over it and SMC will strike off such doctors for conduct unbecoming.

Name me when in reality anyone ever nonchalantly tells another person to let their family die because they are old disabled or useless and not suffer consequences?

I get that you want the economy to get back on track. I do too. However nobody has the courage to make such decisions that will involve the deaths of some people as it will impact their careers too.

While you say that shutdown will cause many to lose their jobs, if say LHL decided to order everyone to go to work then he will lose his position.

Every man for himself.

Everyman for himself a d that is why the shutdowns should end. And singkieland is a dictatorship. A dictatorship dont have to worry about BS figures. Because we have a CAQ as a dictator with clowns as minions. The policies coming out are not coherent n have no economic sense or economic objectives. So this is even worse than a chaotic democracy. In ang mor lands. The lockdown are increasingly being questioned. N alot of lockdown are just protecting gahmens. They achieve nothing for the ppl.

 

[birdie69]

you suprise me with your argument

its not what you have now in hand but what is projected to be

as a doc ,you should know better than this...for eg,the infection rate is calculated to be say 1 is to 3 for flu ,but this covid 19 thingy is somewhere in the ballpark of 1 is to 13?

No, it is infecting others in multiplier effect, if not exponentially

 

[nayr69sg]

I have said before stop reporting new cases.

Report what the hospital bed situation is like? How many beds empty? How many hospitalized? How many ICU? How many deaths? And then provide corresponding numbers for all this from last year to compare.

Let the people decide.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Easy for you to say things like let your family member die what value are they to you when you are not facing eg re election.

Similarly no doctor without indemnity would say such things Salma Khalik would be all over it and SMC will strike off such doctors for conduct unbecoming.

Name me when in reality anyone ever nonchalantly tells another person to let their family die because they are old disabled or useless and not suffer consequences?

I get that you want the economy to get back on track. I do too. However nobody has the courage to make such decisions that will involve the deaths of some people as it will impact their careers too.

While you say that shutdown will cause many to lose their jobs, if say LHL decided to order everyone to go to work then he will lose his position.

Every man for himself.

Wait till more ppl starve n rice bowls broken. The starving the starving will throw these laggards off the roofs themselves which will be worse

 

[bobby]

I have said before stop reporting new cases.

Report what the hospital bed situation is like? How many beds empty? How many hospitalized? How many ICU? How many deaths? And then provide corresponding numbers for all this from last year to compare.

Let the people decide.

Hey doc....you forgotten this phrase???

"We decide what is right. Never mind what the people think.” — Lee Kuan Yew speaking to Straits Times newspaper, 1987

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Hey doc....you forgotten this phrase???

"We decide what is right. Never mind what the people think.” — Lee Kuan Yew Speaking to Straits Times newspaper, 1987

Tat is the beauty of living in a dictatorship. But when the dictator is a clown. U get more bad than good. Dead fart will never do anything that stupid to lockdown for just a flu. He knew ultimately that its the ppls rice bowls that matter

 

[eatshitndie]

california is resigned to the notion that eventually everyone will be infected, and the current lockdown is to slow down infections and buy hospitals and staff critical time to cater to a manageable case load. now that the feared “surge” has becum little bubbles the lockdown can be loosened bit by bit for the new normal life to resume or emerge, i.e. everyone to slowly over many moons to get it and majority to develop herd immunity and or an effective vaccine is found to protect those who are not yet infected. it’s a good strategy, and it seems like it’s working. of course, if virus mutates to the dark side and renders current immunity obsolete and vaccine ineffective, we’re back to square one. when that happens, remember the milf who has a crush on you, it’s time to fuck her. can eat don’t waste.

 

[nayr69sg]

Wait till more ppl starve n rice bowls broken. The starving the starving will throw these laggards off the roofs themselves which will be worse

When that happens then yes of course

Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

 

[laksaboy]

remember the milf who has a crush on you, it’s time to fuck her. can eat don’t waste.

Make a baby with her, pray it doesn't get infected with the virus.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

When that happens then yes of course

Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

Would it not be better for everyone that the wuhan virus b treated as a flu n everyone goes about their business? Why push ppl over the edge?

 

[nayr69sg]

Would it not be better for everyone that the wuhan virus b treated as a flu n everyone goes about their business? Why push ppl over the edge?

The problem INITIALLY is that nobody was really sure what Wuhan virus could do.

If the initial outbreak was in a first world country barring stupid Italy I do not think we would have had this lockdown stuff.

The problem is that it happened in China. Nobody trusted China data. And China also did the whole lockdown shit which WHO praised!

And then Italy kalang kabra. Fucking dumb Italians!

So WHO recommend isolation and lockdown like China.

So blame China! They are the ones who perpetuated this whole lockdown shit. And also the ones who made it look like the virus is super deadly. And Italy too!

If this had started in USA like some dumbfucks say then we would not have lockdowns at all!

In the first place nobody would be testing anyone for this stupid virus!

 

[GOD IS MY DOG]

if lockdown = they pay $1200 a month = i fully support ah

 

[mojito]

Easy for you to say things like let your family member die what value are they to you when you are not facing eg re election.

Similarly no doctor without indemnity would say such things Salma Khalik would be all over it and SMC will strike off such doctors for conduct unbecoming.

Name me when in reality anyone ever nonchalantly tells another person to let their family die because they are old disabled or useless and not suffer consequences?

I get that you want the economy to get back on track. I do too. However nobody has the courage to make such decisions that will involve the deaths of some people as it will impact their careers too.

While you say that shutdown will cause many to lose their jobs, if say LHL decided to order everyone to go to work then he will lose his position.

Every man for himself.

Aiya that ah lao talk big only lah. Probably an angry salaryman on no pay leaf with mortgages to pay.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Exactly!

It is the weather.

Right now the northern hemisphere is just coming out of winter.

Even during summer some places are still very cool. Eg Canada.

The hotter the country is the less transmission.

Also depends on how air conditioned the country is.

 

[nayr69sg]

The summer in northern hemisphere is still not as hot as in ASEAN.

 

[eatshitndie]

Make a baby with her, pray it doesn't get infected with the virus.

baby may get the virus and develop antibodies to deal with it much better than adults do.

 

[CPTMiller]

I have said before stop reporting new cases.

Report what the hospital bed situation is like? How many beds empty? How many hospitalized? How many ICU? How many deaths? And then provide corresponding numbers for all this from last year to compare.

Let the people decide.

Ttere is nothing to decide for normal citizen like us.
Numbers means nothing.
What matter is we safe guard ourselves.
Nothing much we can do.
The more we talking or dreaming does not help

 

[hofmann]

If you look at the data across all ASEAN countries they are all doing well.

No single ASEAN country is overwhelmed despite the fact that many are 3rd world countries.

In fact as @Leongsam pointed out Vietnam has incredibly low numbers.

I suspect it is because of the hot weather. Covid19 is very vulnerable to heat. It relies on an intact lipid layer to survive.

Any virus that falls on surfaces higher than 25 degrees will cause the virus to die.

Hence third world countries with less air conditioning will have environments covid19 is less likely to survive in.

It has less to do with the government more to do with the environment.

It can survive 60 deg Celsius and above. Where is your source that says it dies at 25 deg c?

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci...survive-long-exposure-high-temperature-threat

 

[Ralders]

Sg wont go into full lockdown.