what is the role of the Gurka guards

[golden]

in singapore? are they the private security forces of the government?

How are they different from the Army Guards unit and police forces?

 

[Da Ji]

Let me guess.. you want to bribe them over to kick LKY's ass?

 

[Glaringly]

in singapore? are they the private security forces of the government?

How are they different from the Army Guards unit and police forces?

In the last Burmese revolt, the soldiers that are called in to put down the protesters came from other provinces.

If there is a massive revolt in Singapore, the Gurka guards will be utilize instead of our police force or army?? I think this is what they are for, protecting the present government.

 

[CumSpitCobra]

in singapore? are they the private security forces of the government?

How are they different from the Army Guards unit and police forces?

I wanted to answer your question so i did abit of google and I found an interesting article on this subject. Its here

http://chiatilik.wordpress.com/campaign-for-all-singaporean-saf-police-force/

An interesting way of putting things.

 

[methink]

In the last Burmese revolt, the soldiers that are called in to put down the protesters came from other provinces.

If there is a massive revolt in Singapore, the Gurka guards will be utilize instead of our police force or army?? I think this is what they are for, protecting the present government.

Very possible. Sinkies who stood up to the garmen, mobilising the masses, policemen and army boys, will have the Gurka guard dogs thrown at them.

Sinkies will not shoot at their fellow countrymen. So use outsiders to do the dirty job.

 

[methink]

I wanted to answer your question so i did abit of google and I found an interesting article on this subject. Its here

http://chiatilik.wordpress.com/campaign-for-all-singaporean-saf-police-force/

An interesting way of putting things.

Interesting read. I support Chia Ti Lik's position.

 

[golden]

I wanted to answer your question so i did abit of google and I found an interesting article on this subject. Its here

http://chiatilik.wordpress.com/campaign-for-all-singaporean-saf-police-force/

An interesting way of putting things.

thak you. interesting article..very thought provoking..

 

[golden]

so lets say...if there is a revolt from the army like in Thailand or say the poice force, the Gurkhas guard will be used to wipe them out?

if the oppostion won the election and form the next government, will the Gurkhas be used to protect them?

 

[IR123]

so lets say...if there is a revolt from the army like in Thailand or say the poice force, the Gurkhas guard will be used to wipe them out?

if the oppostion won the election and form the next government, will the Gurkhas be used to protect them?

these are able-bodied people

what about limping man?

 

[golden]

these are able-bodied people

what about limping man?

limping man..haha..most likely got sympathizer inside...

 

[Ramseth]

Contrary to popular (mis)perception, Gurkhas are not mere mercenary available as long as there's money. They work for money, yes (who doesn't?) but they swear loyalty first and foremost and only to the British Crown (over and above the Nepalese) once enlisted as Gurkha.

Only countries approved by the British can enlist Gurkhas. As for Gurkhas contribution to Singapore in sweat and blood, they fought the fiercest and sustained the most casualties against the Japanese in WW2. No, these escapades would never be commemorated in Singapore media TV documentaries or romanticised in Singapore media TV series. Either you know it or you don't, or you find out or you won't.

In any case, as I've mentioned, Gurkhas pledge loyalty to the British Crown. They don't expect gratitude, gratification or glorification from Singaporeans for whatever heroics or sacrifices.

In the case of Mas Selamat Kastari escape from Whitley ISD Detention Centre, I still believe that there's more than meets the eye than just blaming it on Gurkhas. Interestingly, one of the highly prized attribute of Gurkhas are their willingness and readiness to take the rap for their superiors whenever called upon.

Anyway, there's no more Gurkha army contingent in Singapore since the 1970s. There're only Gurkha police contingent. They guard the prisons and detention facilities, and of course a few chosen ones guard Lee Kuan Yew personally. They're also the backbone of contingency planning in case of riots, particularly racial riots. Let's face facts. Singapore police anti-riot task force (formerly known as REU, then PTF and now SOC) has always been heavily Malay staffed. Get the picture now?

 

[steffychun]

in singapore? are they the private security forces of the government?

How are they different from the Army Guards unit and police forces?

Ask the Brits the same question--why are the Gurkhas dying for a British War in Afghanistan?

 

[Unrepented]

To be UK FT, PR or hopefully citizens? Very difficult to get job in Nepal leh. Some not selected become security guards in Middle East as far as I know:o

Ask the Brits the same question--why are the Gurkhas dying for a British War in Afghanistan?

 

[zuoom]

Contrary to popular (mis)perception, Gurkhas are not mere mercenary available as long as there's money. They work for money, yes (who doesn't?) but they swear loyalty first and foremost and only to the British Crown (over and above the Nepalese) once enlisted as Gurkha.

Only countries approved by the British can enlist Gurkhas. As for Gurkhas contribution to Singapore in sweat and blood, they fought the fiercest and sustained the most casualties against the Japanese in WW2. No, these escapades would never be commemorated in Singapore media TV documentaries or romanticised in Singapore media TV series. Either you know it or you don't, or you find out or you won't.

In any case, as I've mentioned, Gurkhas pledge loyalty to the British Crown. They don't expect gratitude, gratification or glorification from Singaporeans for whatever heroics or sacrifices.

In the case of Mas Selamat Kastari escape from Whitley ISD Detention Centre, I still believe that there's more than meets the eye than just blaming it on Gurkhas. Interestingly, one of the highly prized attribute of Gurkhas are their willingness and readiness to take the rap for their superiors whenever called upon.

Anyway, there's no more Gurkha army contingent in Singapore since the 1970s. There're only Gurkha police contingent. They guard the prisons and detention facilities, and of course a few chosen ones guard Lee Kuan Yew personally. They're also the backbone of contingency planning in case of riots, particularly racial riots. Let's face facts. Singapore police anti-riot task force (formerly known as REU, then PTF and now SOC) has always been heavily Malay staffed. Get the picture now?

make sense, as regards to taking the rap.

had a Nepalese friend who were expelled from school just because he took the rap for fighting in school. much to our disgust, the local rich kids who were the instigators got away scoot free. but it's also because of his action, he saved many others.

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my personal understanding is that the Gurkhas are seen as a neutral party when it involves certain situations. specifically, matters regarding to race, and religion.

it's also a legacy form the British times. but as it's working alright, it will be continued.

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something from wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurkha_Contingent

The Gurkha Contingent (Abbreviation: GC; simplified Chinese: 廓尔喀警察团; pinyin: gūjiā jǐngchátuán; Chinese: 辜加警察团, Nepali: गोरखालि) is a line department of the Singapore Police Force. Members of the GC are trained to be highly-skilled and are selected for their display of strong discipline and dedication in their tasks. The principal role of the contingent is to be a special guard force, and is currently used as a counter-terrorist force.

History

The GC was formed on 9 April 1949 in the wake of Indian independence from the British Empire, where Gurkhas battalions from the British Indian Army were divided between the Indian Army and the British Army. Those transferred to the British Army were posted to other remaining British Colonies. In Malaya and Singapore, their presence was badly needed to battle the worsening communist threat, and to replace the Sikh unit in Singapore which reverted to the Indian Army on Indian independence.

Just a year after their formation, their presence became an asset when racial riots between the Malay and European communities broke out over the disputed custody of Maria Hertogh. The GC troopers were again activated when major rioting erupted all over the country between the ethnic Malays and Chinese on Prophet Mohammed's birthday from 21 July 1964 till September that same year.

Their presence as a neutral force was important because local police officers were often perceived to be (or were even expected to be) biased towards their own ethnic groups when handling racial disturbances, further fueling discontent and violence[citation needed]. Officers who attempt to carry out their duties impartially and in full accordance with the law also face social backlash from their own ethnic communities, a difficult situation which can even lead to physical harm to individual officers.

In his autobiography, then Prime Minister, now Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew recounted the use of the Gurkha Contingent as an impartial force at the time when Singapore just gained independence. He wrote:

"When I returned to Oxley Road [Lee's residence], Gurkha policemen (recruited by the British from Nepal) were posted as sentries. To have either Chinese policemen shooting Malays or Malay policemen shooting Chinese would have caused widespread repercussions. The Gurkhas, on the other hand, were neutral, besides having a reputation for total discipline and loyalty."

 

[dunbluffme]

I saw many of them at geylang and pubs

in singapore? are they the private security forces of the government?

How are they different from the Army Guards unit and police forces?

 

[IR123]

In the case of Mas Selamat Kastari escape from Whitley ISD Detention Centre, I still believe that there's more than meets the eye than just blaming it on Gurkhas. Interestingly, one of the highly prized attribute of Gurkhas are their willingness and readiness to take the rap for their superiors whenever called upon.

Well, there appears to be two main lines of thought.

One is that the much vaunted and feared Gurkhas can let a dangerous terrorist limped away without so much as a glance.

The other is that there is more to the negligence.

Perhaps none except the guilty will know the answer.

In any case, the Gurkhas reputation precedes them and has taken on legendary proportions. They should use them more extensively especially in the army, given their capabilities and loyalty.

 

[Perspective]

In any case, the Gurkhas reputation precedes them and has taken on legendary proportions. They should use them more extensively especially in the army, given their capabilities and loyalty.

This appears to be a point on eugenics, a theory offered by LKY... but I can't say I disagree.

 

[golden]

if gurkhas are really that good in reputation, than we should employ more of them as they are consider a FT. They could possible be place in the army to take over certain functions and also certain function in the police force and CISCO.

Then singapore men dont have to serve 2 years in the army and it can be shorten to 6 months to 1 year depends on vocation.

This will free up more manpower for the job markets.... then the gov dont need to open the gate to let in thousands of those so called PMET which depress the wage scale and took away jobs..

 

[Ramseth]

if gurkhas are really that good in reputation, than we should employ more of them as they are consider a FT. They could possible be place in the army to take over certain functions and also certain function in the police force and CISCO.

Then singapore men dont have to serve 2 years in the army and it can be shorten to 6 months to 1 year depends on vocation.

This will free up more manpower for the job markets.... then the gov dont need to open the gate to let in thousands of those so called PMET which depress the wage scale and took away jobs..

Nepal is not India with a billion in population. Young fit Gurkhas are in very short supply, especially with the stringently uncompromising qualification criteria. Some people think that Singapore retrenched the Gurkha army contingent and kept the police contingent. The undiplomatic truth was, the British recalled them along with the main British withdrawal east of Suez in the late 60s and early 70s. Diplomatically for old times' sake, Singapore was allowed to keep a Gurkha police contingent. Mercenaries do work for money. But some, even money can't buy.

 

[golden]

Nepal is not India with a billion in population. Young fit Gurkhas are in very short supply, especially with the stringently uncompromising qualification criteria. Some people think that Singapore retrenched the Gurkha army contingent and kept the police contingent. The undiplomatic truth was, the British recalled them along with the main British withdrawal east of Suez in the late 60s and early 70s. Diplomatically for old times' sake, Singapore was allowed to keep a Gurkha police contingent. Mercenaries do work for money. But some, even money can't buy.

Thank you for the update..

there are 3 gates for the Gurkha contingent with the 3rd gate along Joo Seng road, Looks like the whole compound housng them is quite large..

Whats going on inside and how are their training like, no one seems to know.. will their training be more tough and more strenuous than those army commandos or Infantarys unit?