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Wedding dinners-leave 2nd halfway

nextinfidel

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from the Shit Times 25Dec2008.
so wedding dinners now can cost between $750-1800 per table.

so if I attend a wedding dinner that costs $1000 per table for 10 persons, my ang pao has to be $100. if I leave half way, Can I give ang pao of $50 since I only eat half of the whole course?
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Wedding feast transfers 'in'
Process now easier with more websites, forums as avenues for trading
By Melissa Sim

THE wedding was called off for personal reasons, but Mr G. Ang, 28, was not about to pay $10,000 in cancellation fees.
Instead, the marketing manager posted his wedding banquet details online, hoping to find someone to take over the booking.

The heading read: FOR IMMEDIATE TRANSFER!!!

Transferring wedding banquet bookings has become common for couples who have to cancel their packages due to financial difficulties or relationship problems, or because of plans to upgrade to a larger wedding venue.

And the process has become easier with more wedding websites and forums.

A wedding planner of six years, Ms Anna Lim said wedding forums have become very active in the last three years and provide an avenue for transferring banquet packages online.

'Before the Internet, it was definitely harder to do this because you have only a small collection of friends who might take over the package,' said Ms Lim.

Couples cited singaporebrides.com and styleweddings.sg as popular sites to list available banquet packages.

And it is turning out to be a win-win situation for all.

Take Mr Ang, for example. If he had cancelled his wedding dinner, he would have lost the $4,000 deposit and would also have to pay an extra $6,000 to Swissotel The Stamford to make up for its lost income. This would have come up to $10,000, or half the value of the banquet.

Instead, he found a couple to take over his booking. They negotiated, and he is transferring his deposit to them. So the new couple get a $4,000 discount on their wedding banquet, while Mr Ang loses no more than his deposit.

The hotel too stands to gain as the wedding is on - except for a change of bride and groom.

Wedding banquets in Singapore cost from $750 to $1,800 a table, depending on the venue and the food.
And deposits, which form a percentage of the total wedding package, can start from $1,000 and go up to $8,000.

In the event of a cancellation, some restaurants simply keep the deposit. But others will stagger penalties so that the closer the cancellation is to the actual date, the more couples have to pay.

But even after couples put down their deposits, plans can change, some of them told The Straits Times.

Ms H. Lim, 27, who works in the finance industry, needed a bigger venue to accommodate her ever-expanding guest list. She has already found a couple who are willing to transfer their banquet booking at Furama Hotel to her so she will not need to pay the $1,000 deposit.

Meanwhile, she is hoping to pass her booking at a restaurant in Clarke Quay to someone else. If there are no takers, she simply loses the deposit of $1,000, so she is not out of pocket in total. But she would rather 'pass on the discount'.

'I would rather someone else benefit than the restaurant,' said Ms Lim.

Most hotels told The Straits Times that transfers are allowed only on a case- by-case basis. Some said they had to be 'exceptional, unavoidable' situations.

Mr Ang recalled having some difficulty convincing his hotel: 'Initially they did not allow the swop, so I had to speak to them explaining my circumstances.'

Mr Heinz Javier Colby, general manager of Novotel Singapore Clarke Quay, said that his hotel has received five more transfers this year compared to last year.

He added that there has been no spike in transfers due to the financial slowdown.
 

sally

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Wedding banquets in Singapore cost from $750 to $1,800 a table, depending on the venue and the food.

$750 to $1,800 a table is a big ripoff - how much money can the food and labour costs for a 10 course meal? :eek:
 

Frankiestine

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I said it before, weddings dinners now a days are for couples to show off the have and have not and be the talk of the town...there is no sincerity in wanting to invite guests over to partake in their matrimonial moments but merely for their guest to keep talking about the wedding of the year...
 

cass888

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The truth is the the wedding dinner has become an obligation of the tired wedding couple (who would rather be resting after one whole day of running from east to west or west to east of Singapore for the church/tea/temple ceremony) to invite their friends to a five-star hotel for a dinner. The guests who would also rather be at homewho are obliged to pay the dinner for via their ang pow and eat food served by half-baked part-timers and not even the usual 5-star hotel quality because of the volume. And the wedding couple don't even get to eat because they are running up and down changing outfits. And the guests don't get to talk to the wedding couple who have to shuttle through the 300 odd guests most of whom they may not even know.

If I could do it again, I will host all my guests separately in groups of 10 to 15 and actually get to sit at the same table with them.

Only the hotel wins.
 

kakowi

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I have two wedding invitations coming up next year. Given the rate of divorce in singapore, i could not help but feel that this could be money wasted. However my suggestion that they celebrate their wedding ceremony now and wedding dinner 3 years' later, does not go down well :p

Seriously though, the resulting maturity after 3 years of marriage will cause them to be more careful of money.

There is a tendency for couples to rely on wedding angpows to pay for their dinner. The result is often a bank loan which they pay off over the next three years and a renovation loan for the three years after that.

I wonder if the $750 upwards per table include gst and other taxes? If it does not, then add 20% to that figure to get the approximate true cost per table.

Looks like the going rate is now $100 per person to attend the dinner.
 

cass888

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That must be a very sad couple. Most times the ang pows pay for the dinner. In fact, I have not heard of a single wedding couple who lost money on their wedding dinner.

Of course the couple shouldn't expect to pay for their suit / gown / photoshoot / honeymoon. That they must have the money to pay.

There is a tendency for couples to rely on wedding angpows to pay for their dinner. The result is often a bank loan which they pay off over the next three years and a renovation loan for the three years after that.
 

kakowi

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re-edited because i was puzzling over your use of the phrase 'sad couple' in relation to bank loan

if it is because the wedding dinner pays for itself, then there are always incidentals within the wedding dinner itself that are not covered by the package. For these, the couple need to pay for them, part of which you explained in the later part of your post. But this does not translate to 'sad couple', unless you are referring to the quantum of the loan.

if it is because the couple faces the potential of divorce in addition to bank loans - in which case, 'sad couple' apply - well there is a story to it. I met with a lawyer friend the other day and she was telling me that she moved away from a property specialization into family law (read: divorces). At this moment this is very lucrative. In fact she has more businesses than she can handle. Apparently a significant number came from marriages which break down after less than 3 years. Whilst many young couples are encouraged to marry and give birth immediately due to tax incentives, a prudent couple may prefer to defer their wedding dinner till 3 years after their marriage when they have more money to do without loans, more secure in their marriage and because of their proven and tested security, consider bringing in a life into a harmonious home. At which time the couple may realize that a wedding last for a day but a marriage lasts for a lifetime. A cliche, but a nice one.
 
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nextinfidel

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There is a tendency for couples to rely on wedding angpows to pay for their dinner.

I only give $80 for close colleagues in the office. i attended 2 weddings this year. that is enough!!!.

next year in Dec2009 will have another one. the guy already lamenting about the wasting of money...montage ($1000 for rental of the projector), the cheesiness of the whole thing, bride and groom walks in, dry ice, drink toast, cut cake, same old shit. no body wants to see pictures of you when you were a baby, how you meet this asshole, your sec sch pics, your photos in Paris, or NY, or what happen earlier in the day....all the same old shit. BORING.

and also he keeps on reiterating "the table is $1000-$1200. some ppl just keng lausai and don't turn up with no angpao at all. a complete loss of $120 for that seat. blah blah blah. " hotel is at orchard boulevard. you can't miss it.

but seems he got no choice. the bride is one of your typical sg girl. skinny, no breasts, no wife material, thinks of herself as some hot model after spending money on some boutique clothing. you know exactly what i am talking about here.

already I am betting with my other friends.
stage 1 (Dec09)- if I eventually get to attend the extravagant wedding banquet.
stage 2 - Dec09-Dec2010 - if the marriage stays intact for a whole year.

hey, why is it no one is giving my idea a 2nd look?
Why should I pay $100 for a $1000 table of 10, when I am gonna leave halfway after the course? shouldn't I be giving only $50?
 

po2wq

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...hey, why is it no one is giving my idea a 2nd look?
Why should I pay $100 for a $1000 table of 10, when I am gonna leave halfway after the course? shouldn't I be giving only $50?

lidat, ah? ...

next time me watch ah-lay movie can tel tiket seller ... me oni wanna watch ze juicy parts ... so, can me pay oni 4 dat few mins? ... :p


:biggrin:
 

nextinfidel

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That must be a very sad couple. Most times the ang pows pay for the dinner. In fact, I have not heard of a single wedding couple who lost money on their wedding dinner.

most if not all, wants very very extravagant wedding banquets held at 5 / 6 star hotels to show off, but then got no money to finance it. so they resort to telling ppl that per table is $xxxx so that they can recoup their expenses.

its like saying I want to rent a Rolls Royce to show off, and I want you to ride in it but you have to chip in on the rental costs.

hotels are very smart. per table may be $1000-1200. but there's always the plus plus thing. (flowers, champagne, red wine, montage, dry ice etc). the reason they let you stay one night free is for you to open all your angbaos and pay the banquet bills in full the next day before you check out.

if they don't do that, how many of these weddings couples do you think actually can PAY $30k immediately after the banquet without having to open all the angbaos first?
 

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so if I attend a wedding dinner that costs $1000 per table for 10 persons, my ang pao has to be $100. if I leave half way, Can I give ang pao of $50 since I only eat half of the whole course?

I suggest dun even bother going if wedding is just amount money.
 
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$750++ is too expensive for a wedidng table for 10 pax..

if u can order 10 dishes yourself in a restaurant costing between $200 to $350..why pay more than double..

avoid 6 stars hotels as there are for the super rich..

majority of the average singaporeans should go for package not more than $350 (10 dishes - average each dish cost $35 )
 

cass888

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Normally when you attend a wedding dinner, the Singapore tradition is to try to pay for your own dinner ($100-$120). The Rolls Royce, the photoshoot, the outfits etc are all expected to be on the couple's expense. The liquor (does anyone drink brandy anymore?) and wine is also expected to be on the couple.

Like I said, if I were to do it again, I'd scrap the dinner and just host the guests in groups of 10-15. Sit at the same table with them on each occasion which is the purpose of having them as guests in the first place.

most if not all, wants very very extravagant wedding banquets held at 5 / 6 star hotels to show off, but then got no money to finance it. so they resort to telling ppl that per table is $xxxx so that they can recoup their expenses.

its like saying I want to rent a Rolls Royce to show off, and I want you to ride in it but you have to chip in on the rental costs.

hotels are very smart. per table may be $1000-1200. but there's always the plus plus thing. (flowers, champagne, red wine, montage, dry ice etc). the reason they let you stay one night free is for you to open all your angbaos and pay the banquet bills in full the next day before you check out.

if they don't do that, how many of these weddings couples do you think actually can PAY $30k immediately after the banquet without having to open all the angbaos first?
 
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tonychat

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Weddings in sinkieland is so sick and devoid of meaning. Why everytime talks about $ and cents.

This is a WEDDING. Not a business trade or marketplace. What a sinkie disgrace!!!!
 

cass888

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Weddings in sinkieland is so sick and devoid of meaning. Why everytime talks about $ and cents.

This is a WEDDING. Not a business trade or marketplace. What a sinkie disgrace!!!!

Unfortunately Singaporeans are such that if you invite them, they'll compalin about the "red bomb". If you don't invite them, they'll complain that you don't treat them as a friend. Either way you lose.
 
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