How come you are not in CID hah? So clever in solving mysteries. They don't accept pondans issit? Have you try to solve the mystery of the handphones you've stolen and claimed they wave at you?
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Wayang Party Mystery Continues
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u see everyone....didn't ngejay got himself into shits by joining SDP with his lame F4? obviously, everyone would have thought he would continue his ardent support there and do something to improve SDP. did he ever confirm he joined as a SDP member? if u aren't one, then why so much "sacrifices" - getting arrested, charged, fined and almost jailed? u mean like some troll's " can't wait to go to court for some fun" is it?
instead suddenly, it was leeported ngejay is now in cec with RP and edmund ng ( his long lost brother) was no longer heard of. WHY?
before that, we saw his posting in wayangparty, sdp and then rp and even nsp besides his own blog.
then now we hear of disputing about his connection with wayangparty. WHY again?
held the snake at about certain length from his head. held it wrongly, it would turn around and bite the handler with his poisonous venom.
did wayangparty just got themselves bitten by a poisonous snake?
who's next? RP perhaps?
http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=26269
instead suddenly, it was leeported ngejay is now in cec with RP and edmund ng ( his long lost brother) was no longer heard of. WHY?
before that, we saw his posting in wayangparty, sdp and then rp and even nsp besides his own blog.
then now we hear of disputing about his connection with wayangparty. WHY again?
held the snake at about certain length from his head. held it wrongly, it would turn around and bite the handler with his poisonous venom.
did wayangparty just got themselves bitten by a poisonous snake?
who's next? RP perhaps?
http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=26269
go here and see for the latest happening. enjoy the visual effect
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http://martialartsinlocalpolitics.blogspot.com/
And the beat goes on:p Jokes aside, I must say that Wayang Party has at times impressed me with certain pieces of whistle blowing/investigative journalism notwithstanding average grammar...I for one am prepared to take the good with the bad, no matter where it comes from...WP, TOC etc...just have to put on the mature reasoned rational sieve hat to filter the biased zealous slant
We will not retract any statements made here as demanded by TOC Chief Editor Choo Zheng Xi
April 26, 2009 by admin
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Dear readers,
On 23 April 2009, we published an article in which we criticized TOC for putting Kenneth Jeyaretnam’s name on its editorial team prematurely. (read article here)
TOC Chief Editor Choo Zheng Xi accused us of lying and demanded that we retract the statement. (TOC has published an article by Kenneth on 25 April 2009)
We will not be retracting any statements made because they are true to the best of our knowledge at that point in time.
Wayang Party does not publish anything without claims to back us up.
We have allowed Choo to post his comments freely here without any moderation. There is nothing personal between us and Choo and we bear him no ill will or malice.
If we have an issue with any blogger or person, we will publish our concerns and criticisms here openly and give the other party the right of reply.
This is how gentlemen should behave and it makes no difference if one’s identity is anonymous or known.
Our criticism is directed at a matter and not the person. We do not circulate poison emails around like some known blogger proclaiming himself to be the “blogger mentor” of Singapore’s blogosphere by calling others derogatory names like “liars” and “lunatics”.
Please refer to the conversations we had with Choo below which is self-explanatory (source):
Zheng Xi on Sat, 25th Apr 2009 9:27 pm
Hi Wayang,
I think freedom of speech needs to be differentiated from freedom to spread lies. Your assertion that Kenneth is not a TOC writer will be proven to be a lie on Monday. Please look out for his article. You can start preparing your retraction, if you feel responsible enough about the truth to do so.
admin on Sat, 25th Apr 2009 9:44 pm
Hi Zheng Xi,
We stand corrected at that point in time. There’s no need to retract anything. We did not claim that Kenneth will never join TOC. Please note that we did not discount the possibility of any developments in the future which may contradict our original claims.
Can you answer this simple questions?
Is Kenneth a writer of TOC officially at that time our article is published? Yes or No?
So who is telling a lie? You or us?
Are we correct to say that before Kenneth wrote an article for your site proper, he is not officially your senior writer yet?
On 22 April 2009, Kenneth Jeyaretnam has not written a single article for TOC and as such cannot be considered as a writer of TOC and yet TOC went to announce to the whole world that he is already a “senior writer”.
Is that how TOC operate? Well, then we can always claim that we have this and that writer on board when they have not even contributed a single article yet.
Is this plain intellectual dishonesty on your part? We would think so.
Zheng Xi on Sat, 25th Apr 2009 10:02 pm
Kenneth was officially our writer ever since he announced he was joining our team. He agrees he was our writer, and we agree he is our writer. You would like to tell both of us otherwise, perhaps?
admin on Sat, 25th Apr 2009 10:18 pm
Hi Zheng Xi,
This is not what we heard. There is a miscommunication somewhere. Things are not as you have perceived.
We could have easily produced the documentary proof of what we received, but in doing so we would have to close down this site.
If you are interested to know the truth, email us and we take this offline. We really do not wish to embarrass you. Trust us, we are saving your skin for you.
As for wayangparty, we will only put the writer on our list under “Editorial Team” after he wrote the first article for us.
For example, K J promised to write for us a long time ago, but we have never put him on the guest columnist list till his first article was published.
The same goes for James Gomez. There was a month delay before we added him on the list.
We have a few guest columists-in-waiting, but without their first aritlce, we will never put their names now.
Zheng Xi on Sat, 25th Apr 2009 10:27 pm
Sorry, I am putting you to strict proof to substantiate your claims. If you can easily put out “documentary proof” that will “embarrass” me, please do so. I am calling your bluff.
Also, you think myself and your readers will buy into your conspiracy theory that you will have to “close down this site” over what you call a “miscommunication”?
Please, try harder.
Now produce your proof.
We have produced the proof which was published for 5 minutes on this site. Choo acknowledged it and claimed he had a screenshot on it.
We will not be commenting on this matter further. For those of you who are interested to know the truth, please contact Choo in person.
:p Jokes aside, I must say that Wayang Party has at times impressed me with certain pieces of whistle blowing/investigative journalism notwithstanding average grammar...I for one am prepared to take the good with the bad, no matter where it comes from...WP, TOC etc...just have to put on the mature reasoned rational sieve hat to filter the biased zealous slant We will not retract any statements made here as demanded by TOC Chief Editor Choo Zheng Xi
April 26, 2009 by admin
Filed under Announcements, Daily Musings
Leave a comment
Dear readers,
On 23 April 2009, we published an article in which we criticized TOC for putting Kenneth Jeyaretnam’s name on its editorial team prematurely. (read article here)
TOC Chief Editor Choo Zheng Xi accused us of lying and demanded that we retract the statement. (TOC has published an article by Kenneth on 25 April 2009)
We will not be retracting any statements made because they are true to the best of our knowledge at that point in time.
Wayang Party does not publish anything without claims to back us up.
We have allowed Choo to post his comments freely here without any moderation. There is nothing personal between us and Choo and we bear him no ill will or malice.
If we have an issue with any blogger or person, we will publish our concerns and criticisms here openly and give the other party the right of reply.
This is how gentlemen should behave and it makes no difference if one’s identity is anonymous or known.
Our criticism is directed at a matter and not the person. We do not circulate poison emails around like some known blogger proclaiming himself to be the “blogger mentor” of Singapore’s blogosphere by calling others derogatory names like “liars” and “lunatics”.
Please refer to the conversations we had with Choo below which is self-explanatory (source):
Zheng Xi on Sat, 25th Apr 2009 9:27 pm
Hi Wayang,
I think freedom of speech needs to be differentiated from freedom to spread lies. Your assertion that Kenneth is not a TOC writer will be proven to be a lie on Monday. Please look out for his article. You can start preparing your retraction, if you feel responsible enough about the truth to do so.
admin on Sat, 25th Apr 2009 9:44 pm
Hi Zheng Xi,
We stand corrected at that point in time. There’s no need to retract anything. We did not claim that Kenneth will never join TOC. Please note that we did not discount the possibility of any developments in the future which may contradict our original claims.
Can you answer this simple questions?
Is Kenneth a writer of TOC officially at that time our article is published? Yes or No?
So who is telling a lie? You or us?
Are we correct to say that before Kenneth wrote an article for your site proper, he is not officially your senior writer yet?
On 22 April 2009, Kenneth Jeyaretnam has not written a single article for TOC and as such cannot be considered as a writer of TOC and yet TOC went to announce to the whole world that he is already a “senior writer”.
Is that how TOC operate? Well, then we can always claim that we have this and that writer on board when they have not even contributed a single article yet.
Is this plain intellectual dishonesty on your part? We would think so.
Zheng Xi on Sat, 25th Apr 2009 10:02 pm
Kenneth was officially our writer ever since he announced he was joining our team. He agrees he was our writer, and we agree he is our writer. You would like to tell both of us otherwise, perhaps?
admin on Sat, 25th Apr 2009 10:18 pm
Hi Zheng Xi,
This is not what we heard. There is a miscommunication somewhere. Things are not as you have perceived.
We could have easily produced the documentary proof of what we received, but in doing so we would have to close down this site.
If you are interested to know the truth, email us and we take this offline. We really do not wish to embarrass you. Trust us, we are saving your skin for you.
As for wayangparty, we will only put the writer on our list under “Editorial Team” after he wrote the first article for us.
For example, K J promised to write for us a long time ago, but we have never put him on the guest columnist list till his first article was published.
The same goes for James Gomez. There was a month delay before we added him on the list.
We have a few guest columists-in-waiting, but without their first aritlce, we will never put their names now.
Zheng Xi on Sat, 25th Apr 2009 10:27 pm
Sorry, I am putting you to strict proof to substantiate your claims. If you can easily put out “documentary proof” that will “embarrass” me, please do so. I am calling your bluff.
Also, you think myself and your readers will buy into your conspiracy theory that you will have to “close down this site” over what you call a “miscommunication”?
Please, try harder.
Now produce your proof.
We have produced the proof which was published for 5 minutes on this site. Choo acknowledged it and claimed he had a screenshot on it.
We will not be commenting on this matter further. For those of you who are interested to know the truth, please contact Choo in person.
http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=223802&posted=1#post223802
snaky conspiracy stage ONE, successful and completed : removal of the aiya father ng teck siong.
now for stage TWO.....
snaky conspiracy stage ONE, successful and completed : removal of the aiya father ng teck siong.
now for stage TWO.....
I so love this part.
On one hand, wayang party is saying if they produce any evidence, they will have to close down. On another hand, they claim that if the evidence is shown, TOC would be embarrassed. So which is which??
sounds like some weapean of mutual destruction of some sort of which, I dun think would destroy TOC at all. more of a case of wayangparty had nothing and pretend to have something.
Hey wayangparty, this sort of bully tactic can only be used in school level and not in the adult world.
if you have proof of any sort, show it and make sure everyone can see it. Otherwise, just shut urself down.
On one hand, wayang party is saying if they produce any evidence, they will have to close down. On another hand, they claim that if the evidence is shown, TOC would be embarrassed. So which is which??
sounds like some weapean of mutual destruction of some sort of which, I dun think would destroy TOC at all. more of a case of wayangparty had nothing and pretend to have something.
Hey wayangparty, this sort of bully tactic can only be used in school level and not in the adult world.
if you have proof of any sort, show it and make sure everyone can see it. Otherwise, just shut urself down.
http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=223802&posted=1#post223802
snaky conspiracy stage ONE, successful and completed : removal of the aiya father ng teck siong.
now for stage TWO.....
I leetahbar will start a new Hiao CheeBye Party with me holding the post of Secretary General cum kum lanjiao cum lah karchng! kum every cock lah!
Absoultely agree. They dug up more dirt than all blogging by activists in all forms and shapes. I am sure the authorities can no longer be filippant. They should get an award for the town coucil salary debacle which caught one cainet minister lying.
And the beat goes on
We have to live with the fact that Wayangparty has never played by the rules. Note the semantics and ground breaking claim that only after an article is published that an author then becomes becomes associated with the publishing entity. Analogus to one becoming a policeman after catching his first criminal, or standing at his first traffic light duty etc.
The guy is like fire, useful but you got keep an eye on him.
The guy is like fire, useful but you got keep an eye on him.
Dear Scroobal
There are practical limitations to well "annoynomous tabloid journalism" and " serious journalism. " One is an attempt to built something of value for all, the other is a view to build something for one's personal agenda. One is an attempt to analyze and comment, the other an attempt to create controversy and sensationalism
The TOC team went down to a COSS service, spoke to a spokesperson, and got them to confirm that two emails were in fact sent out by church staff, apart from taking pictures and reporting the service content. The WP team of one went down took pictures and ran out of the service the min it ended and then claimed on the website they had a team of four.
Locke
There are practical limitations to well "annoynomous tabloid journalism" and " serious journalism. " One is an attempt to built something of value for all, the other is a view to build something for one's personal agenda. One is an attempt to analyze and comment, the other an attempt to create controversy and sensationalism
The TOC team went down to a COSS service, spoke to a spokesperson, and got them to confirm that two emails were in fact sent out by church staff, apart from taking pictures and reporting the service content. The WP team of one went down took pictures and ran out of the service the min it ended and then claimed on the website they had a team of four.
Locke
Well if one could hide and use fake names, the molotov cocktail he throws won't hurt him. Despite that it had a fair share of untruths, hamper-giving, backtracking.
Therefore, all in all, I'd say its credibility is a "net loss". That is why no one, me included, remembers his "expose" of the minister that you described and those who did took it with a pinch of salt. Because no one immediately believed, based on the OVERALL credibility of the site, the "expose" was as good as none. This is what happens when one takes credibility lightly, thinking that it is merely a "PAP coined" phrase and they are anon.
don't forget, locke. you, gohmengseng, melvintan, leetahsar, andrewloh and a host of others were once victimised by this snake.
the missing link in this mystery is NGEJAY. get hold of him and all the shits - and his - will be exposed!
Well, I guess either we are luckly or unlucky to have been given grandstand seats of a long running soap opera. Don't know when this will end.
When it comes to "Wayangparty" treat it like dog that has all the atttrubutes of a bad pet. You therefore value you it for being a wonderful guard dog which all mad dogs are but you ensure that it nevers gets close to family, friends and decent folks. A pariah nevertheless.
In this case, the mad dog did catch a fencing jumping minister. He now seems to have bit Ejay as well who thought he was feeding him.
You are absolutely right, there is no such thing as credibility where this mutt is concerned.
In this case, the mad dog did catch a fencing jumping minister. He now seems to have bit Ejay as well who thought he was feeding him.
You are absolutely right, there is no such thing as credibility where this mutt is concerned.
Yes that certainly was a feather in Wayang Party's cap...one of the rare occasions if ever that I have seen Alternative Media breaking a national news story with both the government and MSM playing catch up
You gotta take the good with the bad Locke...heck I have even once seen a useful news scoop by trashy soft porn UK tabloid Daily Star:p
:p Perhaps...but the fact that government had to come out and respond to the issue speaks volumes.
I can't even remember what the issue was about...
Wow, that's a crucial piece of information that you know. Were you there?
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