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[Video] Russian Korean language chiobu teacher sent to Kursk to help North Korean troops integrate with Russian military, but kena gang raped by them
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There are no North Koreans in the Russian forces fighting against Ukraine. The West made this up to justify using long range missiles into Russia.
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Does he thinks the public is unable to check for information? Till today not a single NKorean body pic found.
Here's another idea for NKorean story.
NKorean soldiers sent to Ukraine cannot lift Russian machine guns due to decades of malnutrition.
When imagination runs wild, no evidence is shown.
Here's another idea for NKorean story.
NKorean soldiers sent to Ukraine cannot lift Russian machine guns due to decades of malnutrition.
When imagination runs wild, no evidence is shown.
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Ukrainians have already lost the war?
Copyright Efrem Lukatsky/Copyright 2024 The AP. All rights reserved
By Daniel Bellamy with AP
Published on 30/11/2024 - 9:57 GMT+1•Updated 15:19
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More than 100,000 soldiers have been charged under Ukraine’s desertion laws since Russia invaded in 2022, according to the country’s General Prosecutor.
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Desertion is starving the Ukrainian army of desperately needed manpower and crippling its battle plans at a crucial time in its war with Russia.
Facing every imaginable shortage, tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops, tired and bereft, have walked away from combat and front-line positions to slide into anonymity, according to soldiers, lawyers and Ukrainian officials. Entire units have abandoned their posts, leaving defensive lines vulnerable and accelerating territorial losses, according to military commanders and soldiers.
Some take medical leave and never return, haunted by the traumas of war and demoralised by bleak prospects for victory. Others clash with commanders and refuse to carry out orders, sometimes in the middle of firefights.
“This problem is critical,” said Oleksandr Kovalenko, a Kyiv-based military analyst. “This is the third year of war, and this problem will only grow.”
A shell-shocked Ukrainian soldier of the Azov brigade sits at the stabilization point after arriving from the front line, near Toretsk, Donetsk region, on Sept. 24, 2024Evgeniy Maloletka/Copyright 2024 The AP. All rights reserved
Although Moscow has also been dealing with desertions, Ukrainians going AWOL have laid bare deeply rooted problems bedevilling their military and how Kyiv is managing the war, from the flawed mobilisation drive to the overstretching and hollowing out of front-line units. It comes as the U.S. urges Ukraine to draft more troops, and allow for the conscription of those as young as 18.
The Associated Press spoke to two deserters, three lawyers, and a dozen Ukrainian officials and military commanders. Officials and commanders spoke on condition of anonymity to divulge classified information, while one deserter did so because he feared prosecution.
“It is clear that now, frankly speaking, we have already squeezed the maximum out of our people,” said an officer with the 72nd Brigade, who noted that desertion was one of the main reasons Ukraine lost the town of Vuhledar in October.
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More than 100,000 soldiers have been charged under Ukraine’s desertion laws since Russia invaded in February 2022, according to the country’s General Prosecutor’s Office.
Nearly half have gone AWOL in the last year alone, after Kyiv launched an aggressive and controversial mobilisation drive that government officials and military commanders concede has largely failed.
It's a staggeringly high number by any measure, as there were an estimated 300,000 Ukrainian soldiers engaged in combat before the mobilisation drive began. And the actual number of deserters may be much higher. One lawmaker with knowledge of military matters estimated it could be as high as 200,000.
Many deserters don't return after being granted medical leave. Bone-tired by the constancy of war, they are psychologically and emotionally scarred. They feel guilt about being unable to summon the will to fight, anger over how the war effort is being led, and frustration that it seems unwinnable.
“Being quiet about a huge problem only harms our country,” said Serhii Hnezdilov, one of few soldiers to speak publicly about his choice to desert. He was charged shortly after the AP interviewed him in September.
Another deserter said he initially left his infantry unit with permission because he needed surgery. By the time his leave was up, he couldn’t bring himself to return.
military medics give first aid to a wounded Ukrainian soldier at a medical stabilisation point near Chasiv Yar, Donetsk region, Ukraine, on July 9, 2024, Oleg Petrasiuk/Press service of 24 Mechanised brigade
He still has nightmares about the comrades he saw get killed.
“The best way to explain it is imagining you are sitting under incoming fire and from their (Russian) side, it’s 50 shells coming toward you, while from our side, it’s just one. Then you see how your friends are getting torn to pieces, and you realize that any second, it can happen to you,” he said.
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“Meanwhile guys (Ukrainian soldiers) 10 kilometres away order you on the radio: ‘Go on, brace yourselves. Everything will be fine,’” he said.
Hnezdilov also left to seek medical help. Before undergoing surgery, he announced he was deserting. He said after five years of military service, he saw no hope of ever being demobilised, despite earlier promises by the country’s leadership.
“If there’s no end term (to military service), it turns into a prison - it becomes psychologically hard to find reasons to defend this country,” Hnezdilov said.
Desertion has turned battle plans into sand that slips through military commanders' fingertips.
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The AP learned of cases in which defensive lines were severely compromised because entire units defied orders and abandoned their positions.
“Because of a lack of political will and poor management of troops, especially in the infantry, we certainly are not moving in a direction to properly defend the territories that we control now,” Hnezdilov said.
Ukraine’s military recorded a deficit of 4,000 troops on the front in September owing largely to deaths, injuries and desertions, according to a lawmaker. Most deserters were among recent recruits.
The head of one brigade’s legal service who is in charge of processing desertion cases and forwarding them to law enforcement said he's had many of them.
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“The main thing is that they leave combat positions during hostilities and their comrades die because of it. We had several situations when units fled, small or large. They exposed their flanks, and the enemy came to these flanks and killed their brothers in arms, because those who stood on the positions did not know that there was no one else around,” the official said.
That is how Vuhledar, a hilltop town that Ukraine defended for two years, was lost in a matter of weeks in October, said the 72nd Brigade officer, who was among the very last to withdraw.
The 72nd was already stretched thin in the weeks before Vuhledar fell. Only one line battalion and two rifle battalions held the town near the end, and military leaders even began pulling units from them to support the flanks, the officer said. There should have been 120 men in each of the battalion’s companies, but some companies' ranks dropped to only 10 due to deaths, injuries and desertions, he said. About 20% of the soldiers missing from those companies had gone AWOL.
“The percentage has grown exponentially every month,” he added.
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FILE - Ukrainian marine serviceman runs through the residential blocks in the frontline city of Vuhledar, Ukraine, Feb. 25, 2023. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka, File)Evgeniy Maloletka/Copyright 2020 The AP. All rights reserved
Reinforcements were sent once Russia wised up to Ukraine's weakened position and attacked. But then the reinforcements also left, the officer said. Because of this, when one of the 72nd Brigade battalions withdrew, its members were gunned down because they didn't know no one was covering them, he said.
Still, the officer harbours no ill will toward deserters.
“At this stage, I do not condemn any of the soldiers from my battalion and others. Because everyone is just really tired,” he said.
Prosecutors and the military would rather not press charges against AWOL soldiers and do so only if they fail to persuade them to return, according to three military officers and a spokesperson for Ukraine’s State Investigative Bureau. Some deserters return, only to leave again.
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Ukraine's General Staff said soldiers are given psychological support, but it didn't respond to emailed questions about the toll desertions are having on the battlefield.
Once soldiers are charged, defending them is tricky, said two lawyers who take such cases. They focus on their clients' psychological state when they left.
“People cannot psychologically cope with the situation they are in, and they are not provided with psychological help,” said attorney Tetyana Ivanova.
Soldiers acquitted of desertion due to psychological reasons set a dangerous precedent because “then almost everyone is justified (to leave), because there are almost no healthy people left (in the infantry),” she said.
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Soldiers considering deserting have sought her advice. Several were being sent to fight near Vuhledar.
“They would not have taken the territory, they would not have conquered anything, but no one would have returned,” she said.
Tens of thousands of soldiers have deserted from Ukraine's army
Copyright Efrem Lukatsky/Copyright 2024 The AP. All rights reserved
By Daniel Bellamy with AP
Published on 30/11/2024 - 9:57 GMT+1•Updated 15:19
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More than 100,000 soldiers have been charged under Ukraine’s desertion laws since Russia invaded in 2022, according to the country’s General Prosecutor.
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Desertion is starving the Ukrainian army of desperately needed manpower and crippling its battle plans at a crucial time in its war with Russia.
Facing every imaginable shortage, tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops, tired and bereft, have walked away from combat and front-line positions to slide into anonymity, according to soldiers, lawyers and Ukrainian officials. Entire units have abandoned their posts, leaving defensive lines vulnerable and accelerating territorial losses, according to military commanders and soldiers.
Some take medical leave and never return, haunted by the traumas of war and demoralised by bleak prospects for victory. Others clash with commanders and refuse to carry out orders, sometimes in the middle of firefights.
“This problem is critical,” said Oleksandr Kovalenko, a Kyiv-based military analyst. “This is the third year of war, and this problem will only grow.”
Although Moscow has also been dealing with desertions, Ukrainians going AWOL have laid bare deeply rooted problems bedevilling their military and how Kyiv is managing the war, from the flawed mobilisation drive to the overstretching and hollowing out of front-line units. It comes as the U.S. urges Ukraine to draft more troops, and allow for the conscription of those as young as 18.
The Associated Press spoke to two deserters, three lawyers, and a dozen Ukrainian officials and military commanders. Officials and commanders spoke on condition of anonymity to divulge classified information, while one deserter did so because he feared prosecution.
“It is clear that now, frankly speaking, we have already squeezed the maximum out of our people,” said an officer with the 72nd Brigade, who noted that desertion was one of the main reasons Ukraine lost the town of Vuhledar in October.
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More than 100,000 soldiers have been charged under Ukraine’s desertion laws since Russia invaded in February 2022, according to the country’s General Prosecutor’s Office.
Nearly half have gone AWOL in the last year alone, after Kyiv launched an aggressive and controversial mobilisation drive that government officials and military commanders concede has largely failed.
It's a staggeringly high number by any measure, as there were an estimated 300,000 Ukrainian soldiers engaged in combat before the mobilisation drive began. And the actual number of deserters may be much higher. One lawmaker with knowledge of military matters estimated it could be as high as 200,000.
Many deserters don't return after being granted medical leave. Bone-tired by the constancy of war, they are psychologically and emotionally scarred. They feel guilt about being unable to summon the will to fight, anger over how the war effort is being led, and frustration that it seems unwinnable.
“Being quiet about a huge problem only harms our country,” said Serhii Hnezdilov, one of few soldiers to speak publicly about his choice to desert. He was charged shortly after the AP interviewed him in September.
Another deserter said he initially left his infantry unit with permission because he needed surgery. By the time his leave was up, he couldn’t bring himself to return.
He still has nightmares about the comrades he saw get killed.
“The best way to explain it is imagining you are sitting under incoming fire and from their (Russian) side, it’s 50 shells coming toward you, while from our side, it’s just one. Then you see how your friends are getting torn to pieces, and you realize that any second, it can happen to you,” he said.
ADVERTISEMENT
“Meanwhile guys (Ukrainian soldiers) 10 kilometres away order you on the radio: ‘Go on, brace yourselves. Everything will be fine,’” he said.
Hnezdilov also left to seek medical help. Before undergoing surgery, he announced he was deserting. He said after five years of military service, he saw no hope of ever being demobilised, despite earlier promises by the country’s leadership.
“If there’s no end term (to military service), it turns into a prison - it becomes psychologically hard to find reasons to defend this country,” Hnezdilov said.
Desertion has turned battle plans into sand that slips through military commanders' fingertips.
ADVERTISEMENT
The AP learned of cases in which defensive lines were severely compromised because entire units defied orders and abandoned their positions.
“Because of a lack of political will and poor management of troops, especially in the infantry, we certainly are not moving in a direction to properly defend the territories that we control now,” Hnezdilov said.
Ukraine’s military recorded a deficit of 4,000 troops on the front in September owing largely to deaths, injuries and desertions, according to a lawmaker. Most deserters were among recent recruits.
The head of one brigade’s legal service who is in charge of processing desertion cases and forwarding them to law enforcement said he's had many of them.
ADVERTISEMENT
“The main thing is that they leave combat positions during hostilities and their comrades die because of it. We had several situations when units fled, small or large. They exposed their flanks, and the enemy came to these flanks and killed their brothers in arms, because those who stood on the positions did not know that there was no one else around,” the official said.
That is how Vuhledar, a hilltop town that Ukraine defended for two years, was lost in a matter of weeks in October, said the 72nd Brigade officer, who was among the very last to withdraw.
The 72nd was already stretched thin in the weeks before Vuhledar fell. Only one line battalion and two rifle battalions held the town near the end, and military leaders even began pulling units from them to support the flanks, the officer said. There should have been 120 men in each of the battalion’s companies, but some companies' ranks dropped to only 10 due to deaths, injuries and desertions, he said. About 20% of the soldiers missing from those companies had gone AWOL.
“The percentage has grown exponentially every month,” he added.
ADVERTISEMENT
Reinforcements were sent once Russia wised up to Ukraine's weakened position and attacked. But then the reinforcements also left, the officer said. Because of this, when one of the 72nd Brigade battalions withdrew, its members were gunned down because they didn't know no one was covering them, he said.
Still, the officer harbours no ill will toward deserters.
“At this stage, I do not condemn any of the soldiers from my battalion and others. Because everyone is just really tired,” he said.
Prosecutors and the military would rather not press charges against AWOL soldiers and do so only if they fail to persuade them to return, according to three military officers and a spokesperson for Ukraine’s State Investigative Bureau. Some deserters return, only to leave again.
ADVERTISEMENT
Ukraine's General Staff said soldiers are given psychological support, but it didn't respond to emailed questions about the toll desertions are having on the battlefield.
Once soldiers are charged, defending them is tricky, said two lawyers who take such cases. They focus on their clients' psychological state when they left.
“People cannot psychologically cope with the situation they are in, and they are not provided with psychological help,” said attorney Tetyana Ivanova.
Soldiers acquitted of desertion due to psychological reasons set a dangerous precedent because “then almost everyone is justified (to leave), because there are almost no healthy people left (in the infantry),” she said.
ADVERTISEMENT
Soldiers considering deserting have sought her advice. Several were being sent to fight near Vuhledar.
“They would not have taken the territory, they would not have conquered anything, but no one would have returned,” she said.
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It's been known by military intelligence for many Months now that if the Russians had wanted, they can go all. The way to kiev almost unhindered.
But conquering Ukraine is not what the russians wanted. They have already liberated the Russian speaking Eastern part of Ukraine and are now waiting for a hint from Ukraine for a ceasefire and start negotiations to end the hostilities with conditions the liberated portion becomes part of Russia and Ukraine's cessation to be a member of NATO and maintain its neutrality.
But conquering Ukraine is not what the russians wanted. They have already liberated the Russian speaking Eastern part of Ukraine and are now waiting for a hint from Ukraine for a ceasefire and start negotiations to end the hostilities with conditions the liberated portion becomes part of Russia and Ukraine's cessation to be a member of NATO and maintain its neutrality.
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Fake news?
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North Korean military officers march during a welcoming ceremony for Russian President Vladimir Putin, on June 19, 2024, in Pyongyang, North Korea. (Contributor/Getty Images)
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North Korean troops fighting alongside Russian forces in Kursk Oblast killed eight members of a Russian unit in a "friendly fire" attack, Ukraine's military intelligence agency (HUR) claimed on Dec. 14.
Earlier in the day, President Volodymyr Zelensky reported that a "significant number" of North Korean troops had joined Russian assault operations in the Kursk region.
While engaged in combat in Kursk Oblast, a group of North Korean soldiers opened fire on members of the Chechen Akhmat unit fighting for Russia, HUR reported via its official Telegram channel. The attack allegedly killed eight Russian soldiers.
The Kyiv Independent was unable to verify the report.
HUR said the incident was the result of the language barrier between Russian and North Korean troops, which continues to be a "difficult obstacle" on the battlefield.
An estimated 200 servicemembers fighting with Russian and North Korean units have been killed as of Dec. 14, HUR claimed.
Zelensky previously announced that North Korean personnel had begun incurring "noticeable losses," but did not provide a figure.
Ukrainian and Western officials in fall 2024 warned that over 10,000 North Korean troops had amassed in Kursk Oblast, ready to aid Russia's attempt to oust Ukrainian forces in the region.
The Russian military has instituted special protocols in places where North Korean personnel are located, HUR said. Russian soldiers must undergo inspections before entering these areas, and their phones and electronic devices are confiscated.
The first direct clashes between North Korean and Ukrainian troops in Kursk Oblast were reported in early November. According to Zelensky, North Korean personnel have not been deployed to any other areas of the front, but that could change in the future.
North Korean troops joining Russian assaults in Kursk, Zelensky says
North Korean troops open fire on Russian unit, Ukraine's military intelligence claims
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North Korean troops fighting alongside Russian forces in Kursk Oblast killed eight members of a Russian unit in a "friendly fire" attack, Ukraine's military intelligence agency (HUR) claimed on Dec. 14.
Earlier in the day, President Volodymyr Zelensky reported that a "significant number" of North Korean troops had joined Russian assault operations in the Kursk region.
While engaged in combat in Kursk Oblast, a group of North Korean soldiers opened fire on members of the Chechen Akhmat unit fighting for Russia, HUR reported via its official Telegram channel. The attack allegedly killed eight Russian soldiers.
The Kyiv Independent was unable to verify the report.
HUR said the incident was the result of the language barrier between Russian and North Korean troops, which continues to be a "difficult obstacle" on the battlefield.
An estimated 200 servicemembers fighting with Russian and North Korean units have been killed as of Dec. 14, HUR claimed.
Zelensky previously announced that North Korean personnel had begun incurring "noticeable losses," but did not provide a figure.
Ukrainian and Western officials in fall 2024 warned that over 10,000 North Korean troops had amassed in Kursk Oblast, ready to aid Russia's attempt to oust Ukrainian forces in the region.
The Russian military has instituted special protocols in places where North Korean personnel are located, HUR said. Russian soldiers must undergo inspections before entering these areas, and their phones and electronic devices are confiscated.
The first direct clashes between North Korean and Ukrainian troops in Kursk Oblast were reported in early November. According to Zelensky, North Korean personnel have not been deployed to any other areas of the front, but that could change in the future.
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So far there have been no evidence of North Korean at the war front.
US using fake news to somehow get South Korea involved in its hegemony.somehow linked to the martial law in South Korea and how it failed to get North Korea to fall for it's dirty trick.
US using fake news to somehow get South Korea involved in its hegemony.somehow linked to the martial law in South Korea and how it failed to get North Korea to fall for it's dirty trick.
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part teacher part comfort woman.
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Than how come north kim chee never denounced this fake news?
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Excuse the North, they've never seen a blonde.
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He denounce Yoon.
I'd always take what @syed putra says in this forum with a ton of salt, not a pinch of salt.
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North Korean military sent to battle in Kursk region
North Korean military sent to battle in Kursk region
North Korean troops have engaged Ukrainian Defense Forces in the Kursk region.
Some military officials report that North Korean units have already engaged the Ukrainian Defense Forces units, using the tactic of a mass infantry assault in open terrain.
The offensive was carried out by infantry platoons of 20-30 people, which were fired upon by the artillery of the Defense Forces.
According to the DIU, the Russians are currently preparing Korean soldiers for direct participation in battles at the positions of the Ukrainian military in the Kursk region.
Military comments on the beginning of the use of the DPRK military in assaults in the Kursk region. Photo credits: Dugout cat/Paradise Mouse
North Korean units have been ordered to join forces with adjacent Russian units involved in clashes with the defense forces.
The deployment of military personnel to the front is carried out with the use of civilian vehicles, namely trucks that resemble water delivery vehicles.
In addition, on December 13, 2024, according to intelligence, a contingent of the North Korean military was put on high alert with orders to await further instructions.
“The aggressor state will soon involve DPRK soldiers in direct assault operations. They have recently received additional food supplies,“ the DIU officials noted.
North Korean soldiers during the parade. Photo credits: BBC
Earlier, Militarnyi reported on the involvement of the Korean military in combat operations in the Kharkiv region. However, this information was not confirmed by the intelligence of the Charter Brigade, which did not record North Korean military in its area in the Kharkiv region at the time.
Nevertheless, Bloomberg reported that the North Korean government might gradually involve a group of troops of up to 100,000 troops in the war against Ukraine if the partnership between Pyongyang and Moscow continues to deepen.
Bloomberg noted that such a move was not inevitable, and that military support of that magnitude, if it occurs, is likely to be provided on a rotational basis rather than in a single deployment.
In turn, Ukraine’s Ambassador to South Korea, Dmytro Ponomarenko, made his own assessment in early November. In an interview with the Voice of America, he said that Kyiv expected up to 15,000 North Korean troops to rotate every few months.
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North Korean military sent to battle in Kursk region
North Korean troops have engaged Ukrainian Defense Forces in the Kursk region.
Some military officials report that North Korean units have already engaged the Ukrainian Defense Forces units, using the tactic of a mass infantry assault in open terrain.
The offensive was carried out by infantry platoons of 20-30 people, which were fired upon by the artillery of the Defense Forces.
According to the DIU, the Russians are currently preparing Korean soldiers for direct participation in battles at the positions of the Ukrainian military in the Kursk region.
Military comments on the beginning of the use of the DPRK military in assaults in the Kursk region. Photo credits: Dugout cat/Paradise Mouse
North Korean units have been ordered to join forces with adjacent Russian units involved in clashes with the defense forces.
The deployment of military personnel to the front is carried out with the use of civilian vehicles, namely trucks that resemble water delivery vehicles.
In addition, on December 13, 2024, according to intelligence, a contingent of the North Korean military was put on high alert with orders to await further instructions.
“The aggressor state will soon involve DPRK soldiers in direct assault operations. They have recently received additional food supplies,“ the DIU officials noted.
North Korean soldiers during the parade. Photo credits: BBC
Earlier, Militarnyi reported on the involvement of the Korean military in combat operations in the Kharkiv region. However, this information was not confirmed by the intelligence of the Charter Brigade, which did not record North Korean military in its area in the Kharkiv region at the time.
Nevertheless, Bloomberg reported that the North Korean government might gradually involve a group of troops of up to 100,000 troops in the war against Ukraine if the partnership between Pyongyang and Moscow continues to deepen.
Bloomberg noted that such a move was not inevitable, and that military support of that magnitude, if it occurs, is likely to be provided on a rotational basis rather than in a single deployment.
In turn, Ukraine’s Ambassador to South Korea, Dmytro Ponomarenko, made his own assessment in early November. In an interview with the Voice of America, he said that Kyiv expected up to 15,000 North Korean troops to rotate every few months.
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North Korean soldiers accidentally kill Russian troops because of language barrier
Pyongyang’s ‘fearful’ forces killed eight of Moscow’s troops in Kursk after communication issues cause confusion, according to Ukraine
16 December 2024 5:49pm GMT
North Korean soldiers have accidentally killed eight Russian troops after a misunderstanding caused by the language barrier, according to Ukrainian intelligence .
According to HUR, Kyiv’s military intelligence, the deadly incident occurred when “fearful” North Koreans opened fire on vehicles from Russia’s “Akhmat” Chechen legion in Kursk, which Moscow is trying to recapture from Ukraine.
It said that Russia has faced problems commanding North Korean troops because of the communication issue.
HUR did not specify when the incident took place but announced separately on Monday that Ukrainian forces had killed or wounded some 30 North Korean soldiers over the weekend during fighting in the Kursk region.
The losses happened around the villages of Plekhovo, Vorobzha and Martynivka, HUR said, adding that three North Koreans were missing near Kurilovka.
It marks the first time that casualties from Pyongyang have been reported since the US confirmed in late October that around 10,000 North Korean soldiers had entered the war.
Yuriy Butusov, a Ukrainian military blogger, said that a large Russian-North Korean assault on the village of Plekhovo was repelled on Saturday.
Mr Butusov said that North Korean troops had reached Ukrainian positions “due to their good physical training, fast movement and ignorance of their own losses” before they were forced back by several successful counter-attacks.
“Despite the losses, the enemy assault groups continued to advance, never stopping even under precision fire and shelling,” he said.
Rybar, a prominent Russian Telegram channel, denied that a major clash between Russian and North Korean forces had taken place, saying none of the claims or footage had been verified.
Videos purporting to show North Korean troops in action in Kursk flooded social media over the weekend, many of them having been uploaded by Ukrainians.
In one clip, drone footage shows the bodies of alleged North Korean soldiers being lined up in the snow after being killed while attacking Ukrainian forces.
Kyiv’s 17th Heavy Mechanised Brigade released a tranche of blurry first-person drone videos showing what it claimed was combat against North Korean forces. Silhouetted figures are seen running away from the drones, which are commonly packed with lethal explosives.
On Monday, the Ukrainian brigade released screen grabs from close-up drone footage of enemy troops with an Asian appearance, saying they were North Koreans.
The soldiers in the images appeared to be wearing slightly different uniforms to those issued to Russian troops but it was not possible to verify if they were North Korean. Russia also has Asian minorities that serve in its armed forces.
Ukraine seized much of Russia’s Kursk region during a shock offensive in August, although Moscow has gradually recaptured the territory in recent months.
Russia continues to advance across the front line in eastern Ukraine, with Vladimir Putin, the country’s president, saying they had captured 189 Ukrainian settlements this year.
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They are Russians impersonating as North Koreans?
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Ukrainian Artillery Rained Cluster Shells On Exposed North Korean Troops
A single Dual-Purpose Improved Conventional Munition dispenses 88 submunitions.
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Cluster munitions explode over purported North Korean troops in Kursk.
Cluster munitions explode over purported North Korean troops in Kursk. 17TH HEAVY MECHANIZED BRIGADE CAPTURE
North Korea’s 11th Army Corps finally marched into battle last weekend, two months after the first of as many as 12,000 North Koreans deployed to Kursk Oblast in western Russia.
Attacking from several directions across open terrain, large groups of dismounted North Korean infantry assaulted the 250-square-mile salient that a strong Ukrainian force carved out of Kursk back in August.
One attack around the village of Plekhove, on the eastern edge of the salient, eventually succeeded—at great cost to the North Koreans—after initially running afoul of Ukrainian mines and drones. Another attack targeting positions held by the Ukrainian 17th Heavy Mechanized Brigade on the opposite side of the salient seems to have failed.
The Ukrainians may have one controversial weapon to thank for their weekend victory in that sector of the Kursk front.
Drone videos of the North Korean assault appear to depict U.S.-made cluster munitions—possibly Dual-Purpose Improved Conventional Munition artillery shells—popping open over the snowy battlefield and scattering their lethal payloads of grenade-sized submunitions.
The 11th Army Corps reportedly lost hundreds of soldiers in its weekend assaults. Those cluster shells are a main reason why.
For all their effectiveness, the shells arrived late to the war. The United States didn’t start providing surplus DPICM shells to Ukraine until the summer of 2023—more than a year into Russia’s wider invasion of Ukraine.
It was a controversial decision at the time. The 100-pound shells often leave behind unexploded submunitions that can pose a serious hazard to friendly troops and civilians. The high dud rate, sometimes exceeding 3%, has compelled the U.S. Army to begin replacing its older DPICM rounds with newer models.
Given Russia’s huge advantage in troops and equipment, Ukraine happily accepted the risks associated with intensive use of the older DPICMs.
According to U.S. Army data cited by the Royal United Services Institute in London, it might take 14 standard 155-millimeter shells to kill a single enemy soldier—and only two DPICM rounds, each scattering 88 submunitions. The deadlier DPICM rounds not only kill the enemy faster, they allow friendly artillery batteries to fire fewer rounds for the same effect.
The latter might outweigh the former. “The most significant driver” of Ukraine’s demand for DPICMs “is the operational impact on Ukrainian artillery ammunition stockpiles and barrel life,” RUSI analysts Jack Watling and Justin Bronk wrote.
“With each barrel having a life of around 1,800 rounds, giving Ukraine DPICMs will mean it has to fire fewer total rounds for a given battlefield effect, allowing it to sustain the fight for significantly longer,” Watling and Bronk added.
The long-term consequences of Ukraine belatedly obtaining DPICM rounds are evident in Kursk, a year and a half after the first cluster rounds arrived along the front line.
Ukraine’s outgunned artillery is still in action. And it’s firing shells that kill the enemy—Russian and North Korean alike—at a rate of one soldier every two rounds.
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A single Dual-Purpose Improved Conventional Munition dispenses 88 submunitions.
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Cluster munitions explode over purported North Korean troops in Kursk.
Cluster munitions explode over purported North Korean troops in Kursk. 17TH HEAVY MECHANIZED BRIGADE CAPTURE
North Korea’s 11th Army Corps finally marched into battle last weekend, two months after the first of as many as 12,000 North Koreans deployed to Kursk Oblast in western Russia.
Attacking from several directions across open terrain, large groups of dismounted North Korean infantry assaulted the 250-square-mile salient that a strong Ukrainian force carved out of Kursk back in August.
One attack around the village of Plekhove, on the eastern edge of the salient, eventually succeeded—at great cost to the North Koreans—after initially running afoul of Ukrainian mines and drones. Another attack targeting positions held by the Ukrainian 17th Heavy Mechanized Brigade on the opposite side of the salient seems to have failed.
The Ukrainians may have one controversial weapon to thank for their weekend victory in that sector of the Kursk front.
Drone videos of the North Korean assault appear to depict U.S.-made cluster munitions—possibly Dual-Purpose Improved Conventional Munition artillery shells—popping open over the snowy battlefield and scattering their lethal payloads of grenade-sized submunitions.
The 11th Army Corps reportedly lost hundreds of soldiers in its weekend assaults. Those cluster shells are a main reason why.
For all their effectiveness, the shells arrived late to the war. The United States didn’t start providing surplus DPICM shells to Ukraine until the summer of 2023—more than a year into Russia’s wider invasion of Ukraine.
It was a controversial decision at the time. The 100-pound shells often leave behind unexploded submunitions that can pose a serious hazard to friendly troops and civilians. The high dud rate, sometimes exceeding 3%, has compelled the U.S. Army to begin replacing its older DPICM rounds with newer models.
Given Russia’s huge advantage in troops and equipment, Ukraine happily accepted the risks associated with intensive use of the older DPICMs.
According to U.S. Army data cited by the Royal United Services Institute in London, it might take 14 standard 155-millimeter shells to kill a single enemy soldier—and only two DPICM rounds, each scattering 88 submunitions. The deadlier DPICM rounds not only kill the enemy faster, they allow friendly artillery batteries to fire fewer rounds for the same effect.
The latter might outweigh the former. “The most significant driver” of Ukraine’s demand for DPICMs “is the operational impact on Ukrainian artillery ammunition stockpiles and barrel life,” RUSI analysts Jack Watling and Justin Bronk wrote.
“With each barrel having a life of around 1,800 rounds, giving Ukraine DPICMs will mean it has to fire fewer total rounds for a given battlefield effect, allowing it to sustain the fight for significantly longer,” Watling and Bronk added.
The long-term consequences of Ukraine belatedly obtaining DPICM rounds are evident in Kursk, a year and a half after the first cluster rounds arrived along the front line.
Ukraine’s outgunned artillery is still in action. And it’s firing shells that kill the enemy—Russian and North Korean alike—at a rate of one soldier every two rounds.
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Falling Back Under North Korean Assault, A Ukrainian Brigade Turned A River Into A Natural Barrier
Russian and North Korean troops are struggling to cross the Psel River in Russia’s Kursk Oblast.
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Updated Dec 19, 2024, 08:55am EST
Russian troops retreating from the Psel River.
Russian troops retreating from the Psel River. 61ST MECHANIZED BRIGADE CAPTURE
When the North Korean 11th Army Corps finally marched into battle along the edges of a 250-square-mile salient Ukrainian troops hold in western Russia’s Kursk Oblast last weekend, the long lines of North Korean infantry—striding across open fields in broad daylight—ran headlong into a wall of Ukrainian firepower.
All but one of the assaults ended in bloody defeat, leaving as many as 200 North Koreans dead and wounded out of a total deployed force of around 12,000.
And the assault that did succeed was a Pyrrhic victory for the 11th Army Corps, according to one Ukrainian analysis group. In Plekhove, a village just south of the Psel River on the eastern edge of the salient, a 100-person Ukrainian garrison initially held out against two waves of around 150 North Koreans.
But the attackers kept coming. “The North Korean soldiers went to the assault en masse or, more precisely, in a crowd,” Ukrainian journalist Andriy Tsaplienko reported.
The Ukrainian garrison in Plekhove finally retreated when a third wave of North Koreans attacked from the east.
But the retreat was a calculated one, according to the Ukrainian Center for Defense Strategies. Ukrainian troops “did not cling to Plekhove at any cost, but withdrew north of the Psel River.”
This put an imposing natural barrier between the combined Russian-North Korean force and the main Ukrainian unit in the area, the 61st Mechanized Brigade. “This forces the enemy to cross open terrain to attack positions whose layout is unknown to them, all under strikes from UAVs and artillery,” according to CDS.
Dug in north and west and west of the winding Psel, the Ukrainians have been firing with abandon at the North Koreans and Russians who’ve been struggling to approach the river, cross it and establish a bridgehead in the days since Plekhove fell to the North Koreans.
“Dozens of assaults over the past few days have ended at the distant approaches to Ukrainian defenses,” CDS reported.
The failed attacks have added to Russia and North Korea’s growing tally of losses. In just its first weekend of fighting, the North Korean 11th Army Corps may have lost 4% of its manpower—a rate of loss that’s unsustainable over the long term.
The problem for the Ukrainians is that surrendering any ground in Kursk is risky. Their salient measures roughly 12 miles by 12 miles. The calculated retreat from Plekhove put a five-mile-deep dent in the salient.
The Ukrainians “skillfully uses terrain and maneuver tactics,” CDS crowed. But the Kursk salient offers little terrain—and sparse space to maneuver.
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Russian and North Korean troops are struggling to cross the Psel River in Russia’s Kursk Oblast.
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Updated Dec 19, 2024, 08:55am EST
Russian troops retreating from the Psel River.
Russian troops retreating from the Psel River. 61ST MECHANIZED BRIGADE CAPTURE
When the North Korean 11th Army Corps finally marched into battle along the edges of a 250-square-mile salient Ukrainian troops hold in western Russia’s Kursk Oblast last weekend, the long lines of North Korean infantry—striding across open fields in broad daylight—ran headlong into a wall of Ukrainian firepower.
All but one of the assaults ended in bloody defeat, leaving as many as 200 North Koreans dead and wounded out of a total deployed force of around 12,000.
And the assault that did succeed was a Pyrrhic victory for the 11th Army Corps, according to one Ukrainian analysis group. In Plekhove, a village just south of the Psel River on the eastern edge of the salient, a 100-person Ukrainian garrison initially held out against two waves of around 150 North Koreans.
But the attackers kept coming. “The North Korean soldiers went to the assault en masse or, more precisely, in a crowd,” Ukrainian journalist Andriy Tsaplienko reported.
The Ukrainian garrison in Plekhove finally retreated when a third wave of North Koreans attacked from the east.
But the retreat was a calculated one, according to the Ukrainian Center for Defense Strategies. Ukrainian troops “did not cling to Plekhove at any cost, but withdrew north of the Psel River.”
This put an imposing natural barrier between the combined Russian-North Korean force and the main Ukrainian unit in the area, the 61st Mechanized Brigade. “This forces the enemy to cross open terrain to attack positions whose layout is unknown to them, all under strikes from UAVs and artillery,” according to CDS.
Dug in north and west and west of the winding Psel, the Ukrainians have been firing with abandon at the North Koreans and Russians who’ve been struggling to approach the river, cross it and establish a bridgehead in the days since Plekhove fell to the North Koreans.
“Dozens of assaults over the past few days have ended at the distant approaches to Ukrainian defenses,” CDS reported.
The failed attacks have added to Russia and North Korea’s growing tally of losses. In just its first weekend of fighting, the North Korean 11th Army Corps may have lost 4% of its manpower—a rate of loss that’s unsustainable over the long term.
The problem for the Ukrainians is that surrendering any ground in Kursk is risky. Their salient measures roughly 12 miles by 12 miles. The calculated retreat from Plekhove put a five-mile-deep dent in the salient.
The Ukrainians “skillfully uses terrain and maneuver tactics,” CDS crowed. But the Kursk salient offers little terrain—and sparse space to maneuver.
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