Very Interesting Interview of Egyptian Author Current Affairs

[gymkhana]

Race has got nothing to do with religion you say? So why does Malaysia define a Malay as a Muslim?

LOL you askin me about msian policies ...what a MORON!

 

[gymkhana]

Not interesting. The man clearly has no knowledge of theology or is deliberately excluding it. Very difficult to believe that he is a scholar.
Of course ...coming from an atheist...this would be fodder.

May I suggest you READ further before you take a stand. You speak and post from a position of little or no knowledge.

i cant put it more succintly myself..KANINA

 

[gymkhana]

i cant put it more succintly myself..KANINA

and now that you have my response which is exactly what Reflection has mentioned pls address these :
(thanks to fishbuff)
Deuteronomy 13
13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (13:6-10)
"If thy brother ... or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods ... Thou shalt not consent unto him ... neither shall thine eye pity him ... But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people."
If your brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend tries to get you to worship another god, "thou shalt surely kill him, thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death." If Bible-believers followed this one, they would have to kill many of their own family and friends.
How should nonbelievers be treated?
What the Bible says about non-Christians, stoning, and religious tolerance

(13:7) "From one end of the earth to the other"

When to Stone Your Whole Family
13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; (13:12-17) "If thou shalt hear ... men ... saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known ... Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword."
If you hear of a city where another god is worshiped, then destroy everyone in the city (even the cattle) and burn it down. (Watch out Salt Lake!)
Martin Luther used these verses to justify burning the synagogues and homes of the Jews.
On the Jews and Their Lies (Part 11)

Religious Intolerance
13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
13:16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.
13:17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers;
13:18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.

 

[Kinana]

sorry Gymkhana sir, you still have not dealt with thye views presented by the Egyptian author on the first post. don't run away to something totally unrelated.

 

[gymkhana]

sorry Gymkhana sir, you still have not dealt with thye views presented by the Egyptian author on the first post. don't run away to something totally unrelated.

i do not agree with the authors views so now that i have dealt with his own personal views which are not shared amongst all of the 1.5 billion Muslims throughout the world, perhaps you should now address my post on Deutronomy!!

 

[gymkhana]

my advice to anyone is to investigate and analyse Islam and other Faiths not from mainstream media but get yourself to the library and see what do the Muslims believe as compared to other religions..basics go back to basics what is the core of the belief!??
What did the bible teach ? the first commandment... thou shall not have any other GODs but ME.. not the three of us but just ME!

another white Aussie from darkness to light..come to light

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[Kinana]

i do not agree with the authors views so now that i have dealt with his own personal views which are not shared amongst all of the 1.5 billion Muslims throughout the world, perhaps you should now address my post on Deutronomy!!

But what exactly was his views that you can prove it was wrong? Please be specific. Don't run away anymore.

 

[gymkhana]

But what exactly was his views that you can prove it was wrong? Please be specific. Don't run away anymore.

You are the one who is running away. Even before this thread you were asked to answer and explain your very own bible verses in Deuteronomy 13 but have yet to receive a single word from you. Think it's time for you to answer that before we continue. As for your question it's been answered many times.

One unknown authors view is not going to affect us.
Don't run away now! Come out and answer Deuteronomy 13. After that we can go on to Leviticus and other porn n incest in the bible. Hahaha

 

[whoami]

But what exactly was his views that you can prove it was wrong? Please be specific. Don't run away anymore.

So u are here too FChannel aka JohnObama.

 

[Kinana]

You are the one who is running away. Even before this thread you were asked to answer and explain your very own bible verses in Deuteronomy 13 but have yet to receive a single word from you. Think it's time for you to answer that before we continue. As for your question it's been answered many times.

One unknown authors view is not going to affect us.
Don't run away now! Come out and answer Deuteronomy 13. After that we can go on to Leviticus and other porn n incest in the bible. Hahaha

See, you run away because you have no replies to the Egyptian author's insight on history and events in Egypt.

 

[gymkhana]

See, you run away because you have no replies to the Egyptian author's insight on history and events in Egypt.

Wtf I must be going round in circles with a twelve year old who's not sure if he's Kanina Kinabalu or FCChanel etc etc

 

[Kinana]

Wtf I must be going round in circles with a twelve year old who's not sure if he's Kanina Kinabalu or FCChanel etc etc

You never even dealt with a single point brought up by the Egyptian author al Qimni.
Please go back to the first post and watch what he said.

 

[Reflection]

@GYmkhana...Don't waste your time with Kinana. Its a broken record. He is stuck with comparing apples with oranges.
While he is insisting that we address what someone else says, he himself has no comment on what the Lord God says in the Bible.
By the way, Kinana, I have already explained why Qimni does not deserve to be addressed. He is explaining dismissing religion(Islam) based on political considerations. I am sure YOU have listened to the Video.
You must know by now, since you seem to be very into religion and history, how the Christian religion has been shaped by political considerations. Even Christmas is a random date picked based on a Pagan festival. it in NO WAY indicates the birth of Christ. That was a political consideration as the Pagans needed to be appeased and integrated.
And the present Christian nations....USA and Europe?? Are they actually Christian?
What Happened to LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR and TURN THE OTHER CHEEK.
They go around bombing everyone using sophisticated weapons. its still killing whether you shoot a missile or suicide bomb.
The Western Laws are based on Islamic laws. Only Islam has Punishment concept for crimes. Christianity has LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR and TURN THE OTHER CHEEK.
All the world is using Islamic law (Hence Syariah Law) but are hard put to admit it. Hypocrites!!!.

So...Get off your High Horse. If you are clearly not Read in Theology and the History of Islam and Christianity, you clearly have no business demanding someone else comment on some bullshit spouted by a non-believer.

 

[Kinana]

You dismissed Al Qimni w/o dismissing a single points he brought up.
Maybe you fellas shouldn't be wasting your time and stay away from debates based on actual history, reason and logic.

 

[whoami]

You dismissed Al Qimni w/o dismissing a single points he brought up.
Maybe you fellas shouldn't be wasting your time and stay away from debates based on actual history, reason and logic.

Hmmm....RonPaul aka JohnObama aka TRE aka FChannel.

Your style of writing never fail to amaze me.

Not much input at CNA forum ya.

 

[Kinana]

Three names but your style of denials n runing away are the there same. Why do you need to have there names to do a denial job on one thread?

 

[Kinana]

Up until now, we still have not seen anyone take on the pointers brought up by Al Qimni. If indeed what he said was false, could the host or anyone of you correct him. We can assume he was telling undisputable truth then.