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Univ inc fees to show citizen privilege?

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<!--PostMsgHTML--><SCRIPT language=JavaScript><!--if (adPosition == 1){ GA_googleFillSlot("DF_ROS_inline_BTF_1"); }//--></SCRIPT><!--/PostMsgHTML--><!--PreMsgHTML--><!--/PreMsgHTML--><TABLE class=msgtablealt cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="96%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=msg vAlign=top><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"> </TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt_89 <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>11:15 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (2 of 7) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>30304.2 in reply to 30304.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>You guys decide if we are gaining any spectacular privileges or not. Let's take NUS as an example. According to: https://share.nus.edu.sg/registrar/info/ug/UGTuitionCurrent.pdf,
All Singaporeans, PRs and Foreigners are given following tuition grants (ie, Govt subsidies) for both 2009 and 2010 intakes:
Medicine $88,200
Law $19,000
Business $19,000
Sc & Arts $19,000


<TABLE style="WIDTH: 402pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=538><COLGROUP><TBODY></TBODY><TABLE><COLGROUP><TBODY></TBODY><TABLE><COLGROUP><TBODY></TBODY><TABLE><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" width=64><COL style="WIDTH: 59pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 2889" span=6 width=79><TBODY></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TBODY></TBODY></COLGROUP></TABLE> 2009 intake 2010 intake (fees increased)
SG PR FT
SG PR FT

Student Pays
Medicine 18,960 20,860 28,440 19,720 23,670 31,560
Law 8,080 8,890 12,120 8,890 10,670 14,230
Business 7,000 7,700 10,500 7,490 8,990 11,990
Sc & Arts 6,620 7,290 9,930 6,890 8,270 11,030

Actual Total Fee including Govt Subsidy
Medicine 107,160 109,060 116,640 107,920 111,870 119,760
Law 27,080 27,890 31,120 27,890 29,670 33,230
Business 26,000 26,700 29,500 26,490 27,990 30,990
Sc & Arts 25,620 26,290 28,930 25,890 27,270 30,030

% of Total Fee the Student Pays
Medicine 18% 19% 24% 18% 21% 26%
Law 30% 32% 39% 32% 36% 43%
Business 27% 29% 36% 28% 32% 39%
Sc & Arts 26% 28% 34% 27% 30% 37%

% of Subsidy the Student receives
Medicine 82% 81% 76% 82% 79% 74%
Law 70% 68% 61% 68% 64% 57%
Business 73% 71% 64% 72% 68% 61%
Sc & Arts 74% 72% 66% 73% 70% 63%</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
<TABLE class=msgtable cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="96%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=msg vAlign=top><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"></TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt_89 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>11:37 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right>(3 of 7) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"></TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>30304.3 in reply to 30304.2 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>So, under the new fees, you guys decide if the subsidy we receive from Govt commensurate with citizen privileges or not:
2010 Intake
% of Subsidy the Student receives
SG PR FT
Medicine 82% 79% 74%
Law 68% 64% 57%
Business 72% 68% 61%
Sc & Arts 73% 70% 63%


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EXACTLY! PAP talk like big fark, but didn't tell the whole story here. In you include subsidy in for foreigners too, the difference is not that much. But for us, after 2 yr NS, still got reservist to 40 years old! Where's the logic?
Chao cheebye!
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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"></TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt_89 <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>8:24 pm </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>pJUDGE2009 <NOBR></NOBR>unread</TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (7 of 7) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>30304.7 in reply to 30304.6 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>Someone in parliament should ask the government for the total figure for subsidies enjoyed by S'poreans and foreigners. Then we can make a proper assessment.
EXACTLY! CB 151st ONLY TELL HALF THE STORY!
CCB!
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Any possibility of those 'subsidy' figures being fake?
 
wow that still tooo cheap for sg especially the 66.66% ...have another 50% increment at least....since sg dont want to wake up then learn it the hard way.....
 
Increase is OK if they make advance notice 3 year ahead. But is not fair to those already starting the course because they have set aside the budget with sudden increase how will they come out with money?
All student should sue the School/University for the sudden increase because when they sign up the cost is different with actual fee need to pay.
 
the increased do not affect the current batch that is arleady enrolled. it affect the future incoming batches.
 
Why increase fees in the first place? Wouldn't adjusting the subsidies by moving a large portion of foreign subsidy to local student be better? That way, foreigners pay more, local pay nothing and no impact to the schools.

Instead, every point brought up results in fee hike.

Seems to me like there is only solutions in that PAPeea brain is to always squeeze the people first rather than understanding the problem and looking for a real solution.

Well... guess we should not expect much after Lim the deaf frog told us the truth in parliament - that our Gov it deaf to every thing its people says
 
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true...WHY INCREASE IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN THE ECONOMY IS STILL DOING BADLY
 
blah blah blah blah blah....
end result always... increase in cost of living for singaporeans
why need to increase at all in the first place? PAP knnccb

fuck you pappies motherfuckers to the 18 levels of hell!

PAP see you in hell
 
Wait till the MIWs turn around and tell citizens off that they are kind enough to give 'market subsidy' of between $4K -$8K and that will cause them to 'lost millions of $ by such market subsidy' therefore need to raise GST, Tax, etc., and that we all need to thank them and vote them back in the coming election :eek:.
 
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